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| 2025-12-05 09:33:26 +0100 | <lucabtz> | i need a function Grid (a -> b) -> Grid a -> Grid b which is <*>, but this needs to work only if broadcasting is possible (so for some conditions over the grids width and height) |
| 2025-12-05 09:32:19 +0100 | <lucabtz> | i have a type Grid a which is a grid of data and i want something similar to numpy's broadcasting |
| 2025-12-05 09:30:55 +0100 | <lucabtz> | dminuoso no both pure and <*>, but <*> will be a partial function |
| 2025-12-05 09:30:11 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:4ec:c6c9:2447:6676) |
| 2025-12-05 09:25:12 +0100 | <[exa]> | "it works" |
| 2025-12-05 09:24:53 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Of course. |
| 2025-12-05 09:24:43 +0100 | <[exa]> | dminuoso: well that gives kinda circular definition of approved :D |
| 2025-12-05 09:22:49 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-12-05 09:22:10 +0100 | <[exa]> | naturally... |
| 2025-12-05 09:21:57 +0100 | <lambdabot> | *Exception: arithmetic underflow |
| 2025-12-05 09:21:53 +0100 | <ski> | > (0 :: Natural) - 1 |
| 2025-12-05 09:19:24 +0100 | <jackdk> | I personally also shy away from using `class Pointed`, for reasons Ed writes about at https://wiki.haskell.org/Why_not_Pointed%3F |
| 2025-12-05 09:18:57 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Plus, you may later refactor and reuse some other library that imposes a `Applicative` constraint - it may not even be obvious that you're tapping into a bottom. It's a mine waiting to be stepped on. |
| 2025-12-05 09:18:03 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-05 09:17:54 +0100 | <jackdk> | lucabtz: I would write code against a different typeclass (class Apply from semigroupoids, for example) or provide a different named function. The benefit of a programming culture where people only write complete and lawful instances, is that anyone writing polymorphic code can expect their code to work for any instance, instead of for "any instance except a growing list of exceptions" |
| 2025-12-05 09:17:44 +0100 | <dminuoso> | [exa]: Of course "approved" is quite a nebulous term. If "approved" means "perfectly safe", that statement is absolutely correct. |
| 2025-12-05 09:16:54 +0100 | <[exa]> | lucabtz: probably depends on how much partial |
| 2025-12-05 09:16:08 +0100 | <[exa]> | ...is that a joke? (can't tell) |
| 2025-12-05 09:16:01 +0100 | <[exa]> | reading the wiki here https://wiki.haskell.org/index.php?title=Top_level_mutable_state it says "In contrast, other 'approved' uses of unsafePerformIO are perfectly safe." |
| 2025-12-05 09:14:53 +0100 | <dminuoso> | And in case you just care about pure, https://hackage.haskell.org/package/pointed-5.0.5/docs/Data-Pointed.html#t:Pointed |
| 2025-12-05 09:14:21 +0100 | <dminuoso> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/semigroupoids-6.0.1/docs/Data-Functor-Apply.html#t:Apply |
| 2025-12-05 09:13:34 +0100 | <dminuoso> | lucabtz: Do you just intend to define <*> but not pure? |
| 2025-12-05 09:12:28 +0100 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-12-05 09:12:13 +0100 | annamalai | (~annamalai@157.32.204.27) annamalai |
| 2025-12-05 09:11:23 +0100 | divlamir | (~divlamir@user/divlamir) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-12-05 09:10:37 +0100 | Googulator | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-479c-d9ec-010d-f188-ffcb.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2025-12-05 09:10:20 +0100 | <lucabtz> | is it fine to have an Applicative instance be partial? or it is better i just make separate functions with same signatures as Applicative |
| 2025-12-05 09:10:11 +0100 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) |
| 2025-12-05 09:10:11 +0100 | chencheng | (~chencheng@38.207.158.7) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
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| 2025-12-05 09:06:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-12-05 09:06:20 +0100 | Googulator27 | Googulator |
| 2025-12-05 09:02:26 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-05 08:58:40 +0100 | lambda_gibbon | (~lambda_gi@2603:7080:ee00:37d8:35d4:1aac:9a2f:cd11) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2025-12-05 08:57:58 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
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| 2025-12-05 08:51:24 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-05 08:47:53 +0100 | lucabtz | (~lucabtz@user/lucabtz) lucabtz |
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| 2025-12-05 08:40:07 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-12-05 08:35:33 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-12-05 08:24:59 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-12-05 08:19:46 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-05 08:09:01 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-12-05 08:08:04 +0100 | lambda_gibbon | (~lambda_gi@2603:7080:ee00:37d8:35d4:1aac:9a2f:cd11) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-12-05 08:03:58 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-05 08:03:08 +0100 | lambda_gibbon | (~lambda_gi@2603:7080:ee00:37d8:35d4:1aac:9a2f:cd11) |