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| 2025-12-03 05:57:07 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> "you aserted something wrong!" |
| 2025-12-03 05:56:57 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> we wouldnt know how to give reasonable errors |
| 2025-12-03 05:56:51 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> EvanR: sure, i dont want some unknown way to break the compiler |
| 2025-12-03 05:56:15 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> if its an exhaustiveness issue, thats at least an expression of the problem in a way, that, at least personally, i have never heard it phrased |
| 2025-12-03 05:56:06 +0100 | <EvanR> | how good humans are at messing up logic |
| 2025-12-03 05:56:06 +0100 | <EvanR> | it's crazy |
| 2025-12-03 05:56:06 +0100 | <EvanR> | every time I disable the type system in e.g. C it usually results in a segfault xD |
| 2025-12-03 05:55:43 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> these damn eta constraints or whatever they are |
| 2025-12-03 05:55:25 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> isnt this the whole point!? |
| 2025-12-03 05:55:20 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> we have had this whole dependant types singletons debate for years |
| 2025-12-03 05:55:03 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> maybe not that the user can specify it |
| 2025-12-03 05:54:57 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> but we have exhaustiveness elsewhere |
| 2025-12-03 05:54:43 +0100 | <EvanR> | sounds dangerous |
| 2025-12-03 05:54:39 +0100 | <EvanR> | a type level trust me |
| 2025-12-03 05:54:35 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> but if its, that the head and tail of a hetroginous container both have a recursive instance |
| 2025-12-03 05:54:16 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> if i have to tell it that Bool has an Eq instance, then its fine |
| 2025-12-03 05:54:00 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> why cant I _assert to the compiler_ that the exhaustiveness is something i have ensured I have taken care of |
| 2025-12-03 05:53:36 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> it was, whats up with having to carry around these constraints |
| 2025-12-03 05:53:26 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> it wasnt a question about "how do i refactor these dumb constraints so i can carry around a more effecient expression" |
| 2025-12-03 05:52:56 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> _thats the whole point_ |
| 2025-12-03 05:52:45 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> ... |
| 2025-12-03 05:52:42 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> i didnt read the bit where it was "and then you get these new constraints instead" |
| 2025-12-03 05:52:13 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | ... long message truncated: https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/kf8nh.com/meQNVtzNxaPzTuQoVMpGePld/Wmc2FsApiyo (7 lines) |
| 2025-12-03 05:52:12 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> Leary |
| 2025-12-03 05:50:01 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <zoil> i cant beleive i went to all the trouble of putting together an example just to discover the advice was corrupt |
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