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| 2025-11-26 22:01:50 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
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| 2025-11-26 21:27:03 +0100 | Googulator89 | Googulator |
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| 2025-11-26 21:20:40 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@77.242.116.146) merijn |
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| 2025-11-26 20:53:10 +0100 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) siracusa |
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| 2025-11-26 20:51:19 +0100 | <EvanR> | based |
| 2025-11-26 20:48:55 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@172.222.148.214) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-11-26 20:40:53 +0100 | <monochrom> | Hey speaking of "synergy" business tactics. I saw this beautiful scene at a mall: A gym and a dessert pastry bakery next to each other. |
| 2025-11-26 20:39:58 +0100 | sindu | (~sindu@2.148.32.207.tmi.telenormobil.no) |
| 2025-11-26 20:39:01 +0100 | <int-e> | (and inbetween people break a few legs) |
| 2025-11-26 20:38:27 +0100 | <int-e> | hey picture moment: first you sell them agile coding, then you sell the crutches (LLMs) |
| 2025-11-26 20:37:54 +0100 | <monochrom> | (Don't worry, I denounce back those hipster agile fads.) |
| 2025-11-26 20:37:17 +0100 | <monochrom> | Leary: That sounds dangerously close to the water fall model that every hipster agile coder has denounced. |
| 2025-11-26 20:36:24 +0100 | EvanR | (~EvanR@user/evanr) EvanR |
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| 2025-11-26 20:35:54 +0100 | <monochrom> | About current AI ("AI") and the training data: Those LLMs that have learned from history are doomed to repeat it. >:) |
| 2025-11-26 20:33:16 +0100 | Googulator89 | (~Googulato@84-236-53-137.pool.digikabel.hu) |
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| 2025-11-26 20:15:46 +0100 | Googulator89 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-4ad8-f42e-6d50-f4ab-2863.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2025-11-26 20:14:21 +0100 | <EvanR> | it sounds like that has a chance of running locally |
| 2025-11-26 20:13:23 +0100 | <Leary> | ing random errors and holes in existing programs, and more collected every time a programmer accepts/rejects an output... |
| 2025-11-26 20:13:22 +0100 | <Leary> | Imo, to make good use of AI in programming we just need an iterative approach with both the human and the compiler in the loop. Instead of trying to "engineer" prompts for LLMs trained to replicate all text in existence, we use smaller, specialised machines trained on the much richer semantic data produced by the compiler. One for type errors, one filling holes from context, one fixing bugs given a test failure, etc. Initial data can be gathered by putt |
| 2025-11-26 20:05:57 +0100 | <EvanR> | the soliton radar is made from currently existing technology |
| 2025-11-26 20:04:58 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> 👍️ yes I mean the technology when its available |
| 2025-11-26 20:00:09 +0100 | <EvanR> | that can't go on |
| 2025-11-26 20:00:02 +0100 | <EvanR> | which has high negative profits |
| 2025-11-26 19:59:46 +0100 | <EvanR> | as long as it still exists in the current form |
| 2025-11-26 19:59:24 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I think it's pretty much settled by now that AI can, is, and will be increasingly helpful in programming generally speaking |
| 2025-11-26 19:59:07 +0100 | <EvanR> | you could imagine someone like this shilling AI code that is just awful |
| 2025-11-26 19:58:44 +0100 | <EvanR> | so pick your authorities carefully |