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| 2025-11-19 20:23:16 +0100 | <[exa]> | yap |
| 2025-11-19 20:21:50 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | not due to those locks in any case |
| 2025-11-19 20:21:29 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: if you take the locks in a globally consistent order there are no deadlocks |
| 2025-11-19 20:21:24 +0100 | aditya_an1l | (~aditya_an@user/aditya-an1l:63825) aditya_an1l |
| 2025-11-19 20:20:51 +0100 | <[exa]> | (it's got a name in DBMSes but I don't remember that name) |
| 2025-11-19 20:20:26 +0100 | <[exa]> | "properly bracketed" = acquire all locks in predictable order ideally before any work starts, release them in reverse order. If you manage to have a global predictable order, there's no deadlocks. If there's still a deadlock, at least you get an exception which doesn't interrupt any actual work and retrying is cheap&safe |
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| 2025-11-19 20:18:46 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | because relying on that sounds like asking for trouble |
| 2025-11-19 20:17:43 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: what do you mean with properly bracketed? Do you mean that the runtime would throw a "blocked indefinitely on MVar" exception and kill one of the threads? |
| 2025-11-19 20:13:40 +0100 | <[exa]> | tomsmeding: at least the deadlocks are usually solvable&preemptable if the locks are properly bracketed |
| 2025-11-19 20:10:26 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | EvanR: and then you have two exclusive resources and you don't take the locks in the right order and you deadlock |
| 2025-11-19 20:06:52 +0100 | <[exa]> | int-e tomsmeding: to solve the backtick situation I propose -XFronTicks that gives a proper ` id ยด |
| 2025-11-19 20:05:29 +0100 | <[exa]> | merijn: can you re-use the postgresql one? |
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