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2025-05-04 15:02:29 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> data AThing a = DoSomethingWith a Person | ScamWith a Person |
2025-05-04 14:59:44 +0200 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
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2025-05-04 14:57:27 +0200 | <[exa]> | well screw it, I guess I'll do an A* and blame the heuristics. :D |
2025-05-04 14:56:11 +0200 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db) CiaoSen |
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2025-05-04 14:45:26 +0200 | <[exa]> | turns out I already classified it as such like 2 years ago :D |
2025-05-04 14:44:57 +0200 | <[exa]> | hellwolf: oh hvm is the thing with the "MAGIC" wannabe meme in the main readme |
2025-05-04 14:43:55 +0200 | lxsameer | (~lxsameer@Serene/lxsameer) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
2025-05-04 14:42:42 +0200 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) tremon |
2025-05-04 14:41:12 +0200 | haskellbridge | hellwolf go doing something relax too. enjoy your sunday folks |
2025-05-04 14:40:46 +0200 | <[exa]> | tomsmeding: np enjoy the sunday :D |
2025-05-04 14:40:28 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> I know what you mean. But I will not be so quick to judge. |
2025-05-04 14:40:10 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | *sorry |
2025-05-04 14:40:05 +0200 | tomsmeding | is afk for a while, sory |
2025-05-04 14:39:53 +0200 | <[exa]> | hellwolf: I'd classify as scam tbh |
2025-05-04 14:39:45 +0200 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
2025-05-04 14:39:28 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> - bias of selling before confirmed result. |
2025-05-04 14:39:17 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | I see |
2025-05-04 14:39:01 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | and that sounds limited, but if you want something more than can be expressed to an engine like that, things become very hard, very undecidable, very quickly |
2025-05-04 14:38:52 +0200 | <[exa]> | tomsmeding: the issue is that my "instructions" won't very "simple" (usually multiple effects tied together), so just going the syntax way ("forth is instructions!") is going to be brutally bad |
2025-05-04 14:38:41 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> https://x.com/VictorTaelin he is the frontman doing it. There is this VC vibe thing: so, there is sometimes selling before confirmation bias, but there are some interesting bits from time to time. I don't fully follow, tbh |
2025-05-04 14:38:18 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | and I mean, coding up a simple engine that tries to deduce a sequent from given ones with BFS isn't too hrad |
2025-05-04 14:37:20 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: oh that definitely sounds like program synthesis :p |
2025-05-04 14:36:52 +0200 | <[exa]> | hellwolf: what's hvm and neogen? (googling leads to either twiddler or spam, which is sus) |
2025-05-04 14:35:31 +0200 | <[exa]> | and yeah well it's actually prolog. I want to write constraints on what holds "before" and should hold "after" the program, and the thing would ideally fill in some "middle" so that the "after" is satisfied. |
2025-05-04 14:35:19 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> I think the hvm person is doing this entire neogen thing, banking on LLM model. |
2025-05-04 14:32:31 +0200 | <[exa]> | tomsmeding: I've just started reading up on the whole topic. Looks like I wanted more of a program synthesis. :D |
2025-05-04 14:31:23 +0200 | <[exa]> | hellwolf: if the heuristic is "there was more chat about it on the internet", it's going great. |
2025-05-04 14:26:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <hellwolf> I wonder how well LLM nowadays to cope with these sort of things when it comes to heuristics |
2025-05-04 14:22:24 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | and do you want there to be proof search or just checking of manual proofs |
2025-05-04 14:21:47 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | what kind of things do you want to prove? |
2025-05-04 14:21:16 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | I mean you can actually model a proof checker, but at that point you're writing what you're asking already exists, I guess :p |