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2024-12-28 02:28:33 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-12-28 02:28:19 +0100 <homo> have you never noticed projects using bundled libraries?
2024-12-28 02:27:20 +0100 <geekosaur> the odd thing there is a lot of the changes are driven by … businesses
2024-12-28 02:22:57 +0100 <homo> thanks
2024-12-28 02:22:52 +0100 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2024-12-28 02:22:52 +0100 <homo> @tell OftenFaded I think negative part about haskell being academic is that its development cycle is not business-friendly, companies want lts releases of compilers, libraries and everything else, they want stable API and ABI that doesn't break on updates, which is not the case with haskell ecosystem as it's in process of constant research and refactoring
2024-12-28 02:20:17 +0100 <geekosaur> also I think libera still operates a memoserv, but sender and recipient must both be registered with nickserv
2024-12-28 02:18:20 +0100 <geekosaur> lambdabot has @tell / @ask
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2024-12-28 02:15:46 +0100 <homo> btw, #guix channel has bot "sneek" and you can ask it "sneek later tell username your message" and it will do that the moment that user sends message, is there similar bot in this channel?
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2024-12-28 02:06:22 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
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2024-12-28 02:03:11 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> "tr'd xs = go xs "" where go [] = id; go ('!':xs) = go xs; go (x:xs) = (x:) . go xs"
2024-12-28 01:59:50 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> geekosaur it might be faster to use a Cayley-ish abstraction
2024-12-28 01:57:58 +0100 <homo> sed s/!//g
2024-12-28 01:57:21 +0100 <geekosaur> faster wouuld be to prepend to ys and reverse it at the end
2024-12-28 01:57:06 +0100 <geekosaur> tr'd xs = go xs "" where go [] ys = ys; go ('!':xs) ys = go xs ys; go (x:xs) = go xs (ys ++ [x])
2024-12-28 01:56:26 +0100Sisyphean(~Sisyphean@user/Sisyphean) Sisyphean
2024-12-28 01:56:23 +0100 <homo> this is why I'm trying to figure out how to add bangpatterns to hugs instead of removing every ! from microhs's code
2024-12-28 01:56:01 +0100 <c_wraith> you could always use seq directly.
2024-12-28 01:55:38 +0100 <geekosaur> uh, no
2024-12-28 01:55:33 +0100 <homo> Bowuigi I don't want to do that because bangpatterns are very important for optimization, they might even prevent hugs from segfaulting
2024-12-28 01:55:07 +0100Sisyphean(~Sisyphean@user/Sisyphean) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2024-12-28 01:54:57 +0100 <geekosaur> tr'd [] = []; tr'd ('!':xs) = tr'd xs
2024-12-28 01:54:35 +0100 <homo> speaking of smaller, https://github.com/blynn/compiler is an interesting quest where minimal compiler written in C compiles tiny subset of haskell, so next compiler is written in that tiny subset to implement bigger subset, then another compiler is written in bigger subset...
2024-12-28 01:53:04 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2024-12-28 01:52:59 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> "tr -d '!'" on Linux/POSIX
2024-12-28 01:52:35 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> Hmmm would a simple text replacement command deleting every ! work?
2024-12-28 01:51:42 +0100simplystuart(~simplystu@c-75-75-152-164.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2024-12-28 01:49:14 +0100 <homo> microhs is the only hope to bootstrap ghc, as unfortunately ghc maintainers have no interest to make ghc buildable with smaller haskell implementations :(
2024-12-28 01:48:46 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> A similar thing can be done at the type level, tho it doesn't look like that
2024-12-28 01:48:40 +0100merijn(~merijn@128-137-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) merijn
2024-12-28 01:48:09 +0100 <haskellbridge> <Bowuigi> Because that's a term level function, not a type level one
2024-12-28 01:46:16 +0100simplystuart(~simplystu@c-75-75-152-164.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
2024-12-28 01:45:40 +0100Sisyphean(~Sisyphean@user/Sisyphean) Sisyphean
2024-12-28 01:45:30 +0100 <homo> last (xs ++ [x]) = x
2024-12-28 01:44:56 +0100 <homo> it's interesting how only haskell's type-system is logic programming, but functional patterns like in curry language are impossible
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2024-12-28 01:43:54 +0100 <geekosaur> ignoring FFI and hierarchical modules, which were widely supported and (semi-)official extensions
2024-12-28 01:43:29 +0100 <homo> npk patterns, a simulation of logical programming
2024-12-28 01:43:07 +0100 <geekosaur> not very; 2010 only added like two things to H98 (and removed one)