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2024-12-27 17:48:00 +0100 <haskellbridge> ... long message truncated: https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/kf8nh.com/qbFUoFrAFuCPVSQFnYhWTBqZ/WEGsG3OErzA (3 lines)
2024-12-27 17:48:00 +0100 <haskellbridge> <hellwolf> sequence . mapM state monads is wrong.
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2024-12-27 17:40:23 +0100 <kuribas> haskellbridge: what was the mistake?
2024-12-27 17:40:04 +0100 <kuribas> (-> r a)
2024-12-27 17:39:50 +0100 <kuribas> For example, the newtype-less reader Monad should not exist IMO.
2024-12-27 17:39:33 +0100 <geekosaur> Agda or Idris2 would get you closer, but still not there
2024-12-27 17:39:18 +0100 <kuribas> I find "unintended behaviour" is often a result of too much Polymorphism.
2024-12-27 17:38:36 +0100 <haskellbridge> <hellwolf> I agree. It only makes me think how it is possible to make such a mistake unrepresentable, without bringing all the bazookas in.
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2024-12-27 17:36:42 +0100 <kuribas> I don't have this experience with Python, even if I write the code and use types etc...
2024-12-27 17:36:00 +0100 <kuribas> Still, haskell is my favourite for expressing intent.
2024-12-27 17:35:19 +0100 <geekosaur> despite the meme, Haskell has never really been "if it compiles, it works", and I think that state of affairs is impossible. No programming language can ensure that a program acts according to an unstated intent
2024-12-27 17:35:16 +0100 <kuribas> Why silly?
2024-12-27 17:34:28 +0100 <haskellbridge> <hellwolf> the gist is currently you can do silly things with State monad with mapM, sequence, etc.
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2024-12-27 17:27:33 +0100 <haskellbridge> <hellwolf> not very haskellisk experience
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2024-12-27 17:26:51 +0100 <haskellbridge> <hellwolf> no errors. compiled, but with unintended behaviour
2024-12-27 17:25:39 +0100 <kuribas> hellwolf: what's the error?
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