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2024-11-18 01:39:24 +0100 <Leary> SrPx: Note that if you use 'mtl' monad-polymorphically then performance will become unreliable for cross-module inlining reasons. Consider using a modern effect system like 'effectful' or 'bluefin' instead.
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2024-11-18 01:01:25 +0100 <Axman6> yeah the RIO approach (or similar ReaderT Env IO ideas) get you a very long way. it's pretty easy to do things like `inDB :: DB a -> ReaderT Env IO a` which runs a transaction inside your reader
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2024-11-18 01:00:26 +0100xal(~xal@mx1.xal.systems) xal
2024-11-18 00:59:09 +0100 <glguy> at most they can be an implementation detail of your more-specific monads that you are defining
2024-11-18 00:57:52 +0100 <glguy> monad transformers are not an inevitability of large projects
2024-11-18 00:57:48 +0100 <SrPx> oh, just learned about it. cool
2024-11-18 00:57:17 +0100 <Axman6> that's basically what MTL is
2024-11-18 00:55:56 +0100 <SrPx> so now that im using haskell for a larger project, monad transformers are unavoidable. but it is somewhat annoying to have chains of lifts. wouldn't it make more sense to have a list of the involved monads, and then a 'pick' that selects the one you want? like, `x <- pick M_IO $ something` instead of `x <- lift $ lift $ something`
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