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| 2024-10-22 18:09:15 +0200 | TheCoffeMaker | (~TheCoffeM@user/thecoffemaker) TheCoffeMaker |
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| 2024-10-22 18:07:34 +0200 | <c_wraith> | there are hundreds of them, and they're all basically forgotten. (Lots try to keep the old plugin architecture around too, and fail to keep up with security patches because backporting them is hard) |
| 2024-10-22 18:04:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm, seems so. which one's the un-trackered Firefox? |
| 2024-10-22 18:04:33 +0200 | madjestic | (~madjestic@77-63-24-24.mobile.kpn.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2024-10-22 18:03:34 +0200 | <yushyin> | brave is chromium-based, afaik |
| 2024-10-22 18:00:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | maybe Firefox stopped doing it (and relatives: Brave is Firefox with the branding and tracking removed, no?). Chrome still seems to do it |
| 2024-10-22 18:00:29 +0200 | <c_wraith> | anyway, text/plain is a complete lie of a mime type. There's no such thing as plain text when encodings exist! the ;charset hack makes it usable, but the mime type itself is still a lie |
| 2024-10-22 17:59:18 +0200 | <c_wraith> | which was awful for reproducability |
| 2024-10-22 17:59:08 +0200 | <c_wraith> | I think browsers stopped doing that because some documents are ambiguous, and they'd change encoding as you browsed around a site |
| 2024-10-22 17:59:04 +0200 | lxsameer | (~lxsameer@Serene/lxsameer) lxsameer |
| 2024-10-22 17:58:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and it's not difficult to attempt decode as UTF-8 and fallback to ISO8859-1 |
| 2024-10-22 17:57:47 +0200 | alexherbo2 | (~alexherbo@2a02-8440-3211-c257-851e-a349-082a-4406.rev.sfr.net) alexherbo2 |
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| 2024-10-22 17:57:27 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2024-10-22 17:56:53 +0200 | <c_wraith> | backwards compatibility is a curse |
| 2024-10-22 17:56:42 +0200 | AlexZenon | (~alzenon@178.34.162.25) |
| 2024-10-22 17:56:37 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but it's 2024, not 1998 |
| 2024-10-22 17:56:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, it's an old standard |
| 2024-10-22 17:53:23 +0200 | <mauke> | I mean, the web predates utf-8, so it makes sense to make it opt-in and fall back to an 8-bit encoding |
| 2024-10-22 17:51:27 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> Brave mobile also defaults to not-UTF-8, maybe it is standard? |
| 2024-10-22 17:50:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm, the above said, I think those are served directly by my nginx instance so I'll probably need to mess with its config. should still be documented though |
| 2024-10-22 17:49:44 +0200 | AlexZenon | (~alzenon@178.34.162.25) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-10-22 17:48:41 +0200 | madjestic | (~madjestic@77-63-24-24.mobile.kpn.net) |
| 2024-10-22 17:48:05 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d50-99-47-73.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2024-10-22 17:47:39 +0200 | <mauke> | extensions can mess with response headers, so there probably is an add-on for that |
| 2024-10-22 17:47:03 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2024-10-22 17:46:49 +0200 | lxsameer | (~lxsameer@Serene/lxsameer) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-10-22 17:46:34 +0200 | kaskal | (~kaskal@213-225-13-57.nat.highway.a1.net) kaskal |
| 2024-10-22 17:46:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | interesting. not even an extension? (I think Chrome has an extension for fancy encoding defaults including per-site defaults) |
| 2024-10-22 17:45:34 +0200 | <mauke> | geekosaur: apparently firefox defaults to latin-1 in the absence of any encoding information and there is no way to change that default |
| 2024-10-22 17:44:44 +0200 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah |
| 2024-10-22 17:43:11 +0200 | <dolio> | Yeah, that version uses a data type, which makes it easier. |
| 2024-10-22 17:42:55 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 2024-10-22 17:42:40 +0200 | euleritian | (~euleritia@dynamic-176-006-135-055.176.6.pool.telefonica.de) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |