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| 2024-05-30 13:25:09 +0200 | <dminuoso> | The first part was rather a bit of an interpretation |
| 2024-05-30 13:24:51 +0200 | <dminuoso> | No, its really just confirmation bias. |
| 2024-05-30 13:24:34 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | that sounds more like dunning-kruger than confirmation bias |
| 2024-05-30 13:24:33 +0200 | <dminuoso> | Yeah, indeed. |
| 2024-05-30 13:24:14 +0200 | <dminuoso> | We developers like to think we're better than our tools, and we already have an established theory before having any diagnostics input. |
| 2024-05-30 13:24:12 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | that it's usually what you expected, so you look less? |
| 2024-05-30 13:23:52 +0200 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: I think the problem with not looking too closely at what the computer tells you is usually confirmation bias. |
| 2024-05-30 13:20:31 +0200 | destituion | (~destituio@85.221.111.174) |
| 2024-05-30 13:20:01 +0200 | destituion | (~destituio@2a02:2121:2c1:d808:e5d8:f8e7:d625:4745) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2024-05-30 13:14:36 +0200 | nain | (~nain@37.19.205.146) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2024-05-30 13:14:12 +0200 | danse-nr3 | (~danse-nr3@151.47.143.144) |
| 2024-05-30 13:13:47 +0200 | danse-nr3 | (~danse-nr3@151.47.143.144) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-05-30 13:12:12 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | i think haskell's design is successful in providing a safe, expressive core one can work on for years. But of course we want to be machos and start our first app with monad transformers |
| 2024-05-30 13:11:56 +0200 | <lortabac> | deciding where to focus on is a skill |
| 2024-05-30 13:11:11 +0200 | <lortabac> | TBH we also have too many things to learn. It would be unrealistic to read everything in detail |
| 2024-05-30 13:10:11 +0200 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2024-05-30 13:09:43 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:94b5:b4e0:87f7:aaa5) |
| 2024-05-30 13:09:07 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | too long, did not read. Wait this is too long! TLDR |
| 2024-05-30 13:08:43 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | "make it a tweet" |
| 2024-05-30 13:07:52 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | nah, there is just no place in a given concept of the industry to sit down one hour on a post and read it. We should not feel compelled to bow to that attitude |
| 2024-05-30 13:07:48 +0200 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a05:5800:2da:8d00:e6b9:7aff:fe80:3d03) |
| 2024-05-30 13:07:00 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | (which says nothing about their haskell skill -- those skills are separate things) |
| 2024-05-30 13:06:50 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | sometimes that's just people not being great writers, though |
| 2024-05-30 13:06:22 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | actually i still have to consume an impedence coming from other technologies which makes long haskell posts (even just on haskell wiki!) unintelligible |
| 2024-05-30 13:05:25 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | it's easy to conclude that these things are not useful, with what lots of software (also companies) are trying to tell you |
| 2024-05-30 13:05:00 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | indeed |
| 2024-05-30 13:04:36 +0200 | nain_ | nain |
| 2024-05-30 13:04:36 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | and also, reading is still useful sometimes, who would think? |
| 2024-05-30 13:04:27 +0200 | Maxdamantus | (~Maxdamant@user/maxdamantus) |
| 2024-05-30 13:03:51 +0200 | Maxdamantus | (~Maxdamant@user/maxdamantus) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2024-05-30 13:02:25 +0200 | nain | nain_ |
| 2024-05-30 13:02:10 +0200 | nain | (~nain@37.19.205.146) |
| 2024-05-30 13:01:49 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | turns out that what the computer is telling you is sometimes actually useful info :) |
| 2024-05-30 12:59:36 +0200 | qhong | (~qhong@rescomp-21-400677.stanford.edu) |
| 2024-05-30 12:58:27 +0200 | qhong | (~qhong@DN160vrd000d6kpg009l6c0000fj.stanford.edu) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) |
| 2024-05-30 12:58:04 +0200 | <danse-nr3> | after some years, haskell is teaching me to actually read the stuff that gets dumped at the prompt, amazing. ^^; |
| 2024-05-30 12:55:39 +0200 | raehik | (~raehik@rdng-25-b2-v4wan-169990-cust1344.vm39.cable.virginm.net) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
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