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| 2024-04-28 22:29:05 +0200 | <monochrom> | Perhaps you broke the window. :) |
| 2024-04-28 22:28:16 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | I wanted to say "touched", but I don't know what my hands did when I was a baby |
| 2024-04-28 22:27:41 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | yeah no I definitely knew the Dutch word for a transparent-glass window before I had done anything with a computer |
| 2024-04-28 22:26:56 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | :D |
| 2024-04-28 22:26:46 +0200 | <EvanR> | tomsmeding, I'm a native english speaker. But I think I learned about windows before actual windows. And before Windows(R), since macintosh came first |
| 2024-04-28 22:24:14 +0200 | cashew | (~cashewsta@65.17.175.150) |
| 2024-04-28 22:21:52 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | istos cimices |
| 2024-04-28 22:21:02 +0200 | michalz | (~michalz@185.246.207.205) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2024-04-28 22:20:06 +0200 | <mauke> | ex ter mi nate |
| 2024-04-28 22:18:22 +0200 | noumenon | (~noumenon@113.51-175-156.customer.lyse.net) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2024-04-28 22:16:26 +0200 | <[exa]> | well, bugs, as usual |
| 2024-04-28 22:16:23 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | if it's bugs, then that's very positive |
| 2024-04-28 22:16:10 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | depends on what you eradicate, I guess |
| 2024-04-28 22:15:56 +0200 | <[exa]> | tomsmeding: literally last week I had to explain that "eradicate" in a commit message is a positive happy action |
| 2024-04-28 22:15:45 +0200 | <int-e> | mauke: yeah |
| 2024-04-28 22:15:41 +0200 | <mauke> | was that the &foo thing? |
| 2024-04-28 22:15:36 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | I suspect I learned the word "window" as referring to something on a computer screen before knowing that it referred to a silicon-esquen thing you can look through |
| 2024-04-28 22:15:23 +0200 | <yin> | it's also the only duplicated type |
| 2024-04-28 22:15:15 +0200 | <int-e> | IRC has some obscure corners (so obscure that they may not even be implemented in modern servers... server-local channels are an example) |
| 2024-04-28 22:14:52 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | I sometimes try to imagine how the tech world must sound for a native english speaker |
| 2024-04-28 22:14:28 +0200 | <yin> | that why i sometimes like chatgpt |
| 2024-04-28 22:14:27 +0200 | _ht | (~Thunderbi@28-52-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-04-28 22:13:49 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | yin: so that sounds surprisingly accurate, down to the ambiguity |
| 2024-04-28 22:13:28 +0200 | <[exa]> | ah c'mon we've had rooms in 28000 BC |
| 2024-04-28 22:13:26 +0200 | <yin> | i asked chatgpt to list all message types in the IRC protocol and it listed NOTICE twice: under User Communication as "send a message that does not trigger automatic responses" and under Miscellaneous as "used for various notifications and alerts" |
| 2024-04-28 22:13:24 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | fair point |
| 2024-04-28 22:13:08 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | s/those/that/ |
| 2024-04-28 22:13:07 +0200 | <yushyin> | matrix has 'rooms' afaik? |
| 2024-04-28 22:13:04 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | "still using those old radio terminology?" |
| 2024-04-28 22:12:43 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | tell that to a zoomer discord user |
| 2024-04-28 22:12:34 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | funny |
| 2024-04-28 22:12:17 +0200 | <mauke> | I think it's from IRC |
| 2024-04-28 22:12:08 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | is the use of the word "channel" on matrix, discord, slack, etc. from irc, directly from radio, or unrelated? |
| 2024-04-28 22:11:53 +0200 | <mauke> | and they used to be numeric |
| 2024-04-28 22:11:37 +0200 | <mauke> | it's why we speak on "channels" |
| 2024-04-28 22:11:33 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | perhaps the names were chosen when servers had like 20 people on them |
| 2024-04-28 22:11:29 +0200 | <mauke> | I mean, IRC started out by emulating CB radio |
| 2024-04-28 22:11:06 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | that would be something |
| 2024-04-28 22:11:03 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | lol |
| 2024-04-28 22:10:58 +0200 | <mauke> | instead of the whole server |
| 2024-04-28 22:10:43 +0200 | <mauke> | it is only sent to the specified target :-) |
| 2024-04-28 22:10:08 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | nothing PRIV about a PRIVMSG |
| 2024-04-28 22:09:26 +0200 | <mauke> | NOTICE ME, SENPAI |
| 2024-04-28 22:09:22 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | both names are bad actually, NOTICE and PRIVMSG |
| 2024-04-28 22:09:08 +0200 | <[exa]> | yin: why do people read documentation. :D |
| 2024-04-28 22:09:07 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | precisely |
| 2024-04-28 22:09:02 +0200 | <monochrom> | Because "meaningful" names. People look at the name "NOTICE" and start having their own ideas. |
| 2024-04-28 22:08:35 +0200 | <yin> | makes no sense |
| 2024-04-28 22:08:32 +0200 | <yin> | why do some clients broadcast them then? |
| 2024-04-28 22:08:08 +0200 | <mauke> | according to the RFC, NOTICEs are just regular chat messages that are ignored by bots |