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| 2026-06-19 08:28:22 +0000 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a02:3100:6164:f000:4e50:ddff:fe9b:8922) CiaoSen |
| 2026-06-19 08:33:34 +0000 | fp1 | (~Thunderbi@62.44.249.114) fp |
| 2026-06-19 08:34:59 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:ed09:73b3:83dd:1e97) |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:45 +0000 | <fp1> | So I just got this error message, but I'm having a hard time interpreting it. The message seems to simply describe what I wrote and I'm not sure what's wrong |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:47 +0000 | <fp1> | > pure "carrot" :: [_] |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:47 +0000 | <fp1> | <interactive>:13:19: error: |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:47 +0000 | <fp1> | • Found type wildcard ‘_’ standing for ‘String’ |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:47 +0000 | <fp1> | To use the inferred type, enable PartialTypeSignatures |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:47 +0000 | <fp1> | • In the type ‘[_]’ |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:47 +0000 | <fp1> | In an expression type signature: [_] |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:48 +0000 | <fp1> | In the expression: pure "carrot" :: [_] |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:48 +0000 | <fp1> | • Relevant bindings include |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:48 +0000 | <lambdabot> | ["carrot"] |
| 2026-06-19 08:36:49 +0000 | <fp1> | it :: [String] (bound at <interactive>:13:1) |
| 2026-06-19 08:37:35 +0000 | <fp1> | Ah "To use the inferred type, enable ...", I'm silly |
| 2026-06-19 08:37:44 +0000 | <merijn> | fp1: [_] isn't valid Haskell, it's an extension "PartialTypesignatures" :) |
| 2026-06-19 08:38:20 +0000 | <fp1> | To what extent should one be using extensions? |
| 2026-06-19 08:38:30 +0000 | <merijn> | "It Depends (TM)" |
| 2026-06-19 08:38:55 +0000 | <[exa]> | fp1: pls pastebin, many people's clients gobble this up |
| 2026-06-19 08:39:02 +0000 | GdeVolpiano | (~GdeVolpia@user/GdeVolpiano) GdeVolpiano |
| 2026-06-19 08:39:04 +0000 | <fp1> | Ah sorry |
| 2026-06-19 08:39:12 +0000 | <[exa]> | np but might help later :) |
| 2026-06-19 08:39:22 +0000 | <merijn> | fp1: Practically GHC is the only implementation in use, so assuming extensions exists in a GHC version it probably works |
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| 2026-06-19 08:39:30 +0000 | arcadewise | (52968ed80d@2a03:6000:1812:100::3df) l3gacyb3ta |
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| 2026-06-19 08:39:33 +0000 | caz_ | (866183745f@2a03:6000:1812:100::15d4) caz |
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| 2026-06-19 08:40:15 +0000 | <[exa]> | fp1: btw the semantics of _ is literally "please give me some informative error", so what you see is correct. Some people wanted to exploit `_` for not having to specify whole (possibly very lengthy) types, thus the extension |
| 2026-06-19 08:40:16 +0000 | <merijn> | fp1: Some extensions are extremely small/benign, some are either very complicated, or risky. So there's no real blanket answer "besides know what you're enabling" |
| 2026-06-19 08:40:17 +0000 | caz_ | caz |
| 2026-06-19 08:40:56 +0000 | <fp1> | Does enabling an extension for a library impact the library user at all? Like will they be forced to turn on the extension as well? |
| 2026-06-19 08:41:21 +0000 | <jaror> | In this case you can also use the more common (it's in GHC2021 and up) TypeApplications: `pure @[] "carrot"` |
| 2026-06-19 08:41:55 +0000 | <jaror> | generally you shouldn't need to enable extensions just for importing a module that uses extensions |
| 2026-06-19 08:42:38 +0000 | <int-e> | but if it's a type system extension then often you'll run into having to enable that when you try to use such a library (using its data types and calling its function) |
| 2026-06-19 08:42:44 +0000 | <[exa]> | fp1: I guess the main issue is portability to other compilers/standards |
| 2026-06-19 08:43:03 +0000 | <fp1> | I see |
| 2026-06-19 08:45:12 +0000 | <fp1> | How does one look up @[]? I tried with hoogle and :info, but I didn't get anything |
| 2026-06-19 08:45:25 +0000 | <[exa]> | anyway yeah some libraries just ask "hey simply enable OverloadedString to make the code look digestible" |
| 2026-06-19 08:45:31 +0000 | <int-e> | % :i [] |
| 2026-06-19 08:45:32 +0000 | <yahb2> | type List :: * -> * ; data List a = [] | a : [a] ; -- Defined in ‘GHC.Internal.Types’ ; instance Monoid [a] -- Defined in ‘GHC.Internal.Base’ ; instance Foldable [] -- Defined in ‘GHC.Internal.D... |
| 2026-06-19 08:45:36 +0000 | <[exa]> | fp1: the `@` is a type application, and [] is a normal type |
| 2026-06-19 08:45:36 +0000 | <fp1> | I also tried just @ |
| 2026-06-19 08:45:44 +0000 | <fp1> | I see |
| 2026-06-19 08:45:56 +0000 | <[exa]> | as in, the @ is a special syntax from the extension and you probably won't hoogle it |
| 2026-06-19 08:45:57 +0000 | <int-e> | Oh, and the '@' is syntax... you have to know that it's a type application |
| 2026-06-19 08:46:16 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:ed09:73b3:83dd:1e97) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2026-06-19 08:46:26 +0000 | <fp1> | what's the difference from :: ? |
| 2026-06-19 08:46:30 +0000 | <int-e> | (I don't see search engines finding this from just Haskell and `@`) |
| 2026-06-19 08:47:24 +0000 | <int-e> | % :t id @Int |
| 2026-06-19 08:47:24 +0000 | <yahb2> | id @Int :: Int -> Int |
| 2026-06-19 08:47:30 +0000 | <int-e> | % :t id :: Int -> Int |
| 2026-06-19 08:47:30 +0000 | <yahb2> | id :: Int -> Int :: Int -> Int |
| 2026-06-19 08:48:31 +0000 | <int-e> | fp1: The full type of id is id :: forall a. a -> a; the @ supplies a type to use as `a`. |
| 2026-06-19 08:48:50 +0000 | <int-e> | (you can read the `forall` as a type lambda) |
| 2026-06-19 08:49:31 +0000 | <int-e> | % :set -fprint-explicit-foralls |
| 2026-06-19 08:49:31 +0000 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2026-06-19 08:49:33 +0000 | <int-e> | % :t id |
| 2026-06-19 08:49:33 +0000 | <yahb2> | id :: forall a. a -> a |
| 2026-06-19 08:53:06 +0000 | emilym | (~Thunderbi@user/emilym) emilym |
| 2026-06-19 09:02:42 +0000 | <mauke> | % show @Double 42 |
| 2026-06-19 09:02:42 +0000 | <yahb2> | "42.0" |
| 2026-06-19 09:02:46 +0000 | <mauke> | % show @Int 42 |
| 2026-06-19 09:02:47 +0000 | <yahb2> | "42" |
| 2026-06-19 09:04:08 +0000 | <mauke> | % (@Int == 1) 2 |
| 2026-06-19 09:04:08 +0000 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:51:2: error: [GHC-58481] parse error on input ‘@’ |
| 2026-06-19 09:04:22 +0000 | <jaror> | % (==) @Int 1 2 |
| 2026-06-19 09:04:22 +0000 | <yahb2> | False |
| 2026-06-19 09:06:06 +0000 | <merijn> | fp1: To answer your extension question: Libraries are compiled independently, so enabling extension X in a package will **only** enable it in that package |
| 2026-06-19 09:06:28 +0000 | <merijn> | fp1: That said, the compiler used to build everything has to support all extensions of your transitive dependencies |
| 2026-06-19 09:07:08 +0000 | <fp1> | I see |
| 2026-06-19 09:10:10 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:ed09:73b3:83dd:1e97) |
| 2026-06-19 09:13:25 +0000 | acidjnk_new | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e700e516c0b200d7530e938a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2026-06-19 09:13:40 +0000 | acidjnk | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e700e516c0b200d7530e938a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) acidjnk |
| 2026-06-19 09:17:58 +0000 | <int-e> | mauke: lol, (@Int `id` 2) would not be confusing at all ;) |
| 2026-06-19 09:22:07 +0000 | <fp1> | How does one say <*> ? Sequential apply? apply? |
| 2026-06-19 09:27:51 +0000 | <Rembane> | fp1: I say "fancy star", but there must be a better name out there somewhere |
| 2026-06-19 09:28:24 +0000 | <fp1> | Applicate? |
| 2026-06-19 09:29:07 +0000 | <int-e> | It's `ap` for Applicative, and `ap` is pronouncible. |
| 2026-06-19 09:29:29 +0000 | <int-e> | or pronounceable |
| 2026-06-19 09:29:33 +0000 | <int-e> | I love English. :) |
| 2026-06-19 09:32:39 +0000 | <Rembane> | It's like the aliens in Mars Attacks! |
| 2026-06-19 09:34:10 +0000 | <probie> | +1 for calling <*> "ap" |
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| 2026-06-19 10:52:15 +0000 | <__monty__> | It's not called cyclops? |
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| 2026-06-19 11:15:51 +0000 | <[exa]> | applops |
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| 2026-06-19 11:20:14 +0000 | emilym | (~Thunderbi@user/emilym) emilym |
| 2026-06-19 11:23:15 +0000 | <[exa]> | anyone using vulkan from hs? (I'm looking at the wrapper library situation and it makes one quite confused) |
| 2026-06-19 11:25:20 +0000 | <jaror> | Not me, but perhaps look at https://github.com/alt-romes/ghengin |
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| 2026-06-19 11:27:02 +0000 | Axman6 | (~Axman6@user/axman6) Axman6 |
| 2026-06-19 11:27:17 +0000 | rekahsoft | (~rekahsoft@70.51.99.119) rekahsoft |
| 2026-06-19 11:27:42 +0000 | <merijn> | [exa]: Worst case scenario you can just wrap the vulkan API yourself on an "as I need it" basis? |
| 2026-06-19 11:28:25 +0000 | <merijn> | Depending on the haskell-to-vulkan ratio you need |
| 2026-06-19 11:28:48 +0000 | <[exa]> | jaror: yeah that points to the obvious but huge one |
| 2026-06-19 11:29:09 +0000 | <[exa]> | well I guess I have to start somewhere |
| 2026-06-19 11:29:15 +0000 | Axma80016 | (~Axman6@user/axman6) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-06-19 11:29:37 +0000 | Lord_of_Life_ | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life |
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| 2026-06-19 11:32:29 +0000 | Lord_of_Life_ | Lord_of_Life |
| 2026-06-19 11:32:47 +0000 | <merijn> | [exa]: What are you trying to do and what about the library situation is confusing? Or is it just that the libraries are just "here's all of vulkan, but wrapped"? |
| 2026-06-19 11:33:32 +0000 | <[exa]> | if you look at: vulkan vs vulkan-api vs vulkan-raw |
| 2026-06-19 11:33:55 +0000 | <[exa]> | <<<- usability maintainability ->>> |
| 2026-06-19 11:34:34 +0000 | <[exa]> | I'll go with the pop one and switch in case it starts failing |
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| 2026-06-19 13:58:17 +0000 | ft | (~ft@p508db6b1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft |
| 2026-06-19 13:58:37 +0000 | <mauke> | not haskell specific, but I'm going to ask here anyway |
| 2026-06-19 13:59:12 +0000 | <mauke> | I've rediscovered something that maybe should have been obvious: optimization passes can expose more work for other optimization passes, so there is no obvious simple way to order them in general |
| 2026-06-19 13:59:22 +0000 | prdak1 | prdak |
| 2026-06-19 14:00:24 +0000 | <mauke> | for example, constant folding can reveal the static target of a nominally dynamic jump, which can lead to more inlining, which can enable more constant folding |
| 2026-06-19 14:01:12 +0000 | <mauke> | is there some clever approach to handle this sort of situation, apart from just running everything repeatedly until things calm down, hopefully? |
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| 2026-06-19 14:09:22 +0000 | <comerijn> | Not really |
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| 2026-06-19 14:09:55 +0000 | <comerijn> | it's generally some fixed iterations that are allowed and at some point give up |
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| 2026-06-19 14:10:30 +0000 | lisbeths | (uid135845@id-135845.lymington.irccloud.com) lisbeths |
| 2026-06-19 14:10:42 +0000 | <comerijn> | mauke: It's actually even worse, it's easily conceivable that some sequence of optimisation passes maybe MUCH better than others, and the fixed ordering may prevent you from ever reaching those |
| 2026-06-19 14:11:02 +0000 | <comerijn> | So before you know it you're trying arbitary permutations and your compiles take as long as an FPGA ;) |
| 2026-06-19 14:26:21 +0000 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d108-173-95-19.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
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| 2026-06-19 14:56:02 +0000 | <mauke> | ah, fun |
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| 2026-06-19 15:56:19 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | mauke: traditional compilers have a meticulously hand-tuned optimisation schedule that runs a bunch of passes in a particular order |
| 2026-06-19 15:56:45 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | which may include the same pass multiple times, e.g. constant folding in various places in the pipeline |
| 2026-06-19 15:57:20 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | looping until fixpoint is in those circles considered Not Done as it makes compile time unbounded |
| 2026-06-19 15:57:25 +0000 | roconnor | (~quassel@rocq/roconnor) roconnor |
| 2026-06-19 15:58:27 +0000 | roconnor | (~quassel@rocq/roconnor) () |
| 2026-06-19 15:59:05 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | https://gist.github.com/minjang/89ee4cd6a040dfda0d7dc23603b3c8c3 (don't know if this is accurate, just found via search, but this kind of stuff) |
| 2026-06-19 15:59:48 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | "Unnamed pass: implement Pass::getPassName()" heh |
| 2026-06-19 16:00:52 +0000 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) tzh |
| 2026-06-19 16:01:37 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | comerijn/merijn: clearly the solution is randomising the pass order, then every compile you have a small chance of winning the jackpot ("we compiled out program 1000 times and benchmarked using the best result") |
| 2026-06-19 16:01:48 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | *our |
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