| 2026-02-26 00:03:02 +0100 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d172-219-48-230.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
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| 2026-02-26 00:27:15 +0100 | wickedja` | (~user@208.98.208.115) |
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| 2026-02-26 00:28:33 +0100 | marinelli | (~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/marinelli) marinelli |
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| 2026-02-26 00:32:07 +0100 | Googulator12 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-0119-3163-e164-ab4d-fc66.pool6.digikabel.hu) |
| 2026-02-26 00:33:45 +0100 | tusko | (~uwu@user/tusko) tusko |
| 2026-02-26 00:33:56 +0100 | <tusko> | i liek haskell |
| 2026-02-26 00:36:29 +0100 | Googulator88 | (~Googulato@2a01-036d-0106-499d-5cc3-861f-fb3b-e380.pool6.digikabel.hu) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 00:40:58 +0100 | __monty__ | (~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2026-02-26 00:41:06 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) housemate |
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| 2026-02-26 00:59:24 +0100 | tjbc | (~tjbc@user/fliife) fliife |
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| 2026-02-26 01:07:39 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@71.84.33.135) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 01:07:50 +0100 | <Digit> | i like https://www.youtube.com/@arturorochoa9359/streams 's recent noob haskell learning vids |
| 2026-02-26 01:08:32 +0100 | <tusko> | thanking you _/\_ |
| 2026-02-26 01:23:52 +0100 | ilbelkyr | nicole |
| 2026-02-26 01:29:01 +0100 | <Comstar> | tusko, have you seen helsinki's open course? it's a pretty nice and gentle guided way to learn haskell |
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| 2026-02-26 03:26:21 +0100 | <ethan1> | hi, i'm just starting to learn haskell, i've been looking at https://haskell.mooc.fi and they use stack for most stuff |
| 2026-02-26 03:26:43 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) housemate |
| 2026-02-26 03:27:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that's not a problem, but modern cabal is much saner than very early versions 20ish years ago and you should probably learn it as well |
| 2026-02-26 03:27:49 +0100 | <ethan1> | i was looking at https://learnyouahaskell.github.io/introduction.html#about-this-tutorial and they recommend ghcup |
| 2026-02-26 03:28:08 +0100 | <ethan1> | well i'm running v 9.6.6 so i think i've got modern cabal? |
| 2026-02-26 03:28:10 +0100 | <ethan1> | i could be wrong |
| 2026-02-26 03:28:10 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> good |
| 2026-02-26 03:28:35 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> cabal should be enough |
| 2026-02-26 03:31:55 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ghcup installs both cabal and stack |
| 2026-02-26 03:32:05 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's an installer, not a builder |
| 2026-02-26 03:34:41 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex |
| 2026-02-26 03:34:59 +0100 | <ethan1> | what i did was install debian's version of stack, and used that to install ghci |
| 2026-02-26 03:35:04 +0100 | <ethan1> | things seem to work fine |
| 2026-02-26 03:35:19 +0100 | <ethan1> | i want to get through the course and/or book |
| 2026-02-26 03:35:38 +0100 | <ethan1> | i was thinking i'd stick to that setup for most of it, and then i'd tweak it later if needed |
| 2026-02-26 03:36:11 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it'll work, it'll just get you older versions of things |
| 2026-02-26 03:36:22 +0100 | <ethan1> | and it turns out i don't have cabal, so i installed cabal 3.10.3 |
| 2026-02-26 03:36:36 +0100 | <ethan1> | geekosaur: that's fine then, i'll update if i need to |
| 2026-02-26 03:36:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ghcup gets you recommended versions of things |
| 2026-02-26 03:37:02 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (in particular cabal 3.10.3 is fairly old at this point and has known bugs) |
| 2026-02-26 03:37:53 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and if your ghc is older than 9.4 it will also have potentially severe known bugs |
| 2026-02-26 03:38:07 +0100 | <ethan1> | i have v9.6 |
| 2026-02-26 03:38:15 +0100 | <ethan1> | how bad are the bugs? |
| 2026-02-26 03:39:06 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2026-02-26 03:40:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | 9.6.7 is fine, older minor versions can be problematic |
| 2026-02-26 03:41:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | in general you want the latest minor version of any ghc (with haskell version numbers, the major number is the first two components) |
| 2026-02-26 03:42:25 +0100 | <geekosaur> | there is certainly no reason to run very recent versions unless you want to experiment; ghc moves quickly because it's' both a research compiler and a production compiler |
| 2026-02-26 03:42:56 +0100 | <ethan1> | specifically, i've got 9.6.6 |
| 2026-02-26 03:42:59 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) ChaiTRex |
| 2026-02-26 03:46:24 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> why do you have 9.6.6 |
| 2026-02-26 03:47:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's probably okay but there are some bugs on some platforms: https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/9.6.7/docs/users_guide/9.6.7-notes.html#compiler and succeeding sections |
| 2026-02-26 03:47:45 +0100 | <geekosaur> | maerwald: debian |
| 2026-02-26 03:47:52 +0100 | housemate | (~housemate@202.7.248.67) (Quit: https://ineedsomeacidtocalmmedown.space/) |
| 2026-02-26 03:48:11 +0100 | <ethan1> | yeah debian lol |
| 2026-02-26 03:48:44 +0100 | <ethan1> | i'll just run the ghcup install script when i can, then |
| 2026-02-26 03:49:08 +0100 | <ethan1> | if it becomes a huge problem |
| 2026-02-26 03:53:24 +0100 | <Clint> | it's 9.6.6 with some patches, ftr |
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