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| 2026-02-24 00:18:08 +0100 | <Leary> | geekosaur: I got two of them revised eariler, but now the refined invocation looks like this: <https://gist.github.com/LSLeary/52377ecaa9e9090c7e26b91945f6d587>. I'm not sure I have it in me. <.< |
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| 2026-02-24 00:30:35 +0100 | <geekosaur> | mm, maybe the right thing to do in that case is put the correct base bound in the cabal file and maintainer-revision it down on Hackage until the coast is clear |
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| 2026-02-24 04:21:46 +0100 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
| 2026-02-24 04:25:06 +0100 | <Leary> | Upper bounds aside, `cabal check` doesn't seem to care about lower bounds. Does that mean I can give up on the archaeology necessary to find them? |
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| 2026-02-24 04:34:26 +0100 | <monochrom> | I usually do. I set my lower bounds to be what I happen to have when I start the project. Then I don't change them until someone wants it changed. |
| 2026-02-24 04:39:28 +0100 | <Leary> | Well, in that case you're setting them conservatively. I was more wondering about the opposite strategy of omitting them entirely. |
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| 2026-02-24 04:45:11 +0100 | <monochrom> | Then one day you will run into something like this recent example: https://discourse.haskell.org/t/breaking-changes-in-time-1-15-ghc-9-14/13711 |
| 2026-02-24 04:45:53 +0100 | <monochrom> | (time-1.15 adds new pattern synonyms that name-clashes with someone's existing code that assumes <=1.14) |
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| 2026-02-24 04:47:26 +0100 | <monochrom> | So if you set a lower bound like <=1.14 or 1.13, the worst that can happen is cabal downloads and builds an appropriate version of time. If you don't set a lower bound, now you have to set a lower bound. |
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| 2026-02-24 05:08:53 +0100 | <Leary> | In that particular case, I think the actual issue is importing without concern for namespace pollution. Also, that's an upper bound? |
| 2026-02-24 05:09:15 +0100 | <Leary> | Reflecting things a bit, your point seems to be that an older version of a dependency (than is implicitly assumed) may be used to build the package, causing it to fail. |
| 2026-02-24 05:09:40 +0100 | <Leary> | But the alternative of refusing to build what would have succeeded doesn't really seem better; either way the bound is wrong and you're relying on intrepid explorers to eventually correct it. |
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| 2026-02-24 05:18:18 +0100 | <monochrom> | Oh oops yeah that's an upper bound. |
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