| 2026-01-23 00:02:18 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 00:03:18 +0100 | __monty__ | (~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2026-01-23 00:04:51 +0100 | zanetti | (~zanetti@2804:7f0:9b80:2edc:c121:46e7:c35f:46cf) zanetti |
| 2026-01-23 00:13:09 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-23 00:14:16 +0100 | <jackdk> | Perhaps most approachable free intro. Optics By Example is worth the price. |
| 2026-01-23 00:18:12 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-93-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-23 00:18:26 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-93-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2026-01-23 00:20:24 +0100 | <chromoblob> | how the fuck are you supposed to write Haskell without recursion |
| 2026-01-23 00:20:25 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 00:20:52 +0100 | <chromoblob> | and how is Haskell without recursion supposed to be useful |
| 2026-01-23 00:23:28 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I think tht usually means without _explicit_ recursion, e.g. using folds/traverses |
| 2026-01-23 00:28:53 +0100 | zanetti | (~zanetti@2804:7f0:9b80:2edc:c121:46e7:c35f:46cf) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2026-01-23 00:33:34 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-93-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 00:34:08 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-93-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2026-01-23 00:34:18 +0100 | <jreicher> | chromoblob: who's saying you should write Haskell without recursion? |
| 2026-01-23 00:34:30 +0100 | Hafydd | (~Hafydd@user/hafydd) (Quit: WeeChat 4.8.1) |
| 2026-01-23 00:40:35 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
| 2026-01-23 00:42:00 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2026-01-23 00:47:48 +0100 | RMSBach | (~RMSBach@24.210.9.182) RMSBach |
| 2026-01-23 00:50:23 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-23 00:50:25 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 00:51:03 +0100 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) vanishingideal |
| 2026-01-23 00:55:03 +0100 | Hafydd | (~Hafydd@user/hafydd) Hafydd |
| 2026-01-23 00:56:36 +0100 | Square3 | (~Square4@user/square) Square |
| 2026-01-23 01:00:06 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 01:10:11 +0100 | <EvanR> | the answer the question, certain patterns of recursion can be encapulsated in combinators that magically have the same effect |
| 2026-01-23 01:10:13 +0100 | <EvanR> | to |
| 2026-01-23 01:10:31 +0100 | <EvanR> | e.g. map and fold |
| 2026-01-23 01:10:42 +0100 | <EvanR> | they can't do everything, but the more such tools you have the more you can do |
| 2026-01-23 01:10:58 +0100 | <EvanR> | but sometimes explicit recursion makes more sense |
| 2026-01-23 01:11:28 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-23 01:16:39 +0100 | <probie> | how are imperative languages without goto supposed to be useful? |
| 2026-01-23 01:16:39 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 01:25:31 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ab:ed8b:c474:c7ff:febb:8ed3) |
| 2026-01-23 01:27:14 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-23 01:28:13 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@72.178.108.235) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 01:32:00 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 01:33:28 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-93-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2026-01-23 01:33:42 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-93-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2026-01-23 01:43:02 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-01-23 01:51:32 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@syn-192-154-181-091.biz.spectrum.com) |
| 2026-01-23 01:55:54 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ab:ed8b:c474:c7ff:febb:8ed3) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 01:56:13 +0100 | Square3 | (~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 01:58:49 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2026-01-23 02:01:45 +0100 | Zemy_ | (~Zemy@2600:100c:b0ab:ed8b:9876:2aff:fe33:1a1d) |
| 2026-01-23 02:03:37 +0100 | Zemy | (~Zemy@syn-192-154-181-091.biz.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
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| 2026-01-23 02:05:55 +0100 | <systemfault> | for loops/while/etc... |
| 2026-01-23 02:07:45 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
| 2026-01-23 02:08:40 +0100 | <jackdk> | I think probie is asking rhetorically, to provide an analogous question/answer pair to chromoblob/EvanR. |
| 2026-01-23 02:08:58 +0100 | <EvanR> | lol |
| 2026-01-23 02:09:57 +0100 | <EvanR> | clearly systemfault is answering in such a way intentionally to highlight the irony |
| 2026-01-23 02:10:53 +0100 | <EvanR> | this is what it's like in the tiplerian omega point simulation where everyone already knows everything anyone could talk about |
| 2026-01-23 02:11:35 +0100 | <systemfault> | Yeah... that said, I don't know what a tiplerian omega point simulation is... |
| 2026-01-23 02:13:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | sounds to me like someone's been tippling on physics 🙂 |
| 2026-01-23 02:14:37 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-01-23 02:42:24 +0100 | Inline | (~User@2001-4dd7-bc56-0-fdb7-c703-fc72-e0a.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2026-01-23 02:43:44 +0100 | omidmash3 | (~omidmash@user/omidmash) omidmash |
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| 2026-01-23 02:45:34 +0100 | omidmash3 | omidmash |
| 2026-01-23 02:46:04 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-01-23 02:54:36 +0100 | Inline | (~User@2001-4dd7-bc56-0-bf4e-84aa-8c9c-590c.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de) Inline |
| 2026-01-23 03:01:29 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-cl.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2026-01-23 03:10:07 +0100 | <Leary> | chromoblob: Write all your co/inductive co/data types in greatest/least-fixed-point form, and all your logic in folds. It's not even as bad as it sounds! |
| 2026-01-23 03:11:43 +0100 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Quit: Leaving...) |