| 2025-07-28 00:01:09 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 00:03:39 +0200 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 00:04:09 +0200 | VictorHugenay | (~VictorHug@user/VictorHugenay) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2025-07-28 00:11:58 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 00:12:49 +0200 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-28 00:13:03 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-07-28 00:15:39 +0200 | ZLima12 | (~zlima12@user/meow/ZLima12) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-07-28 00:16:28 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 00:16:48 +0200 | ZLima12 | (~zlima12@user/meow/ZLima12) ZLima12 |
| 2025-07-28 00:25:24 +0200 | amadaluzia | (~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia) (Quit: ZNC 1.10.1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-28 00:25:25 +0200 | poscat0x04 | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-07-28 00:25:34 +0200 | sprotte24 | (~sprotte24@p200300d16f1c2800a4c46ead6c309f0b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-28 00:27:03 +0200 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 00:27:15 +0200 | xff0x_ | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:ff32:5dd2:60a2:c4df) |
| 2025-07-28 00:27:46 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 00:28:39 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:70b3:c113:bfb8:1e1b) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 00:28:44 +0200 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2025-07-28 00:30:14 +0200 | jreicher | (~user@user/jreicher) jreicher |
| 2025-07-28 00:30:16 +0200 | Unicorn_Princess | (~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-07-28 00:32:03 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 00:33:21 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 00:33:50 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-07-28 00:34:39 +0200 | Unicorn_Princess | (~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542) Unicorn_Princess |
| 2025-07-28 00:43:10 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 00:44:17 +0200 | xff0x_ | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:ff32:5dd2:60a2:c4df) (Quit: xff0x_) |
| 2025-07-28 00:45:17 +0200 | Axman6 | (~Axman6@user/axman6) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-07-28 00:45:48 +0200 | Axman6 | (~Axman6@user/axman6) Axman6 |
| 2025-07-28 00:48:04 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 00:52:50 +0200 | <byorgey> | Axman6: Cool, glad you enjoyed my ZuriHac talk. Yes, it is odd to see the face of someone you've known online for a while. =) |
| 2025-07-28 00:53:30 +0200 | <byorgey> | Axman6: I did post a solution to the last problem in a blog post: https://byorgey.github.io/blog/posts/2025/06/10/comprog-hs-intro.html |
| 2025-07-28 00:55:39 +0200 | alhazrod | (uid662262@user/alhazrod) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) |
| 2025-07-28 00:58:42 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 01:03:08 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 01:13:30 +0200 | jmorris | (uid604645@id-604645.hampstead.irccloud.com) jmorris |
| 2025-07-28 01:14:04 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 01:16:01 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:3967:7ad2:29cb:37c1) |
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| 2025-07-28 01:18:45 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 01:19:56 +0200 | jespada | (~jespada@2800:a4:22c0:5b00:c0b3:a2ed:9f22:74f1) jespada |
| 2025-07-28 01:29:02 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 01:31:57 +0200 | jackdk | (uid373013@cssa/life/jackdk) jackdk |
| 2025-07-28 01:33:28 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
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| 2025-07-28 01:44:25 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 02:00:28 +0200 | YoungFrog | (~youngfrog@39.129-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
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| 2025-07-28 02:01:51 +0200 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@static-68-235-46-37.cust.tzulo.com) |
| 2025-07-28 02:02:29 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 02:12:45 +0200 | ttybitnik | (~ttybitnik@user/wolper) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-07-28 02:13:47 +0200 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@91-159-69-59.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 2025-07-28 02:14:44 +0200 | acidjnk | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e70b6692a4921e45644e17d7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 02:17:50 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 02:22:20 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 02:31:12 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-28 02:31:26 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-07-28 02:33:14 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 02:37:44 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 02:51:16 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 02:52:11 +0200 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-07-28 02:53:42 +0200 | ljdarj1 | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj |
| 2025-07-28 02:55:49 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 02:55:54 +0200 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 02:55:55 +0200 | ljdarj1 | ljdarj |
| 2025-07-28 03:06:38 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 03:09:11 +0200 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-28 03:09:25 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-07-28 03:10:12 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:3967:7ad2:29cb:37c1) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 03:11:09 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
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| 2025-07-28 03:22:03 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 03:24:58 +0200 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@static-68-235-46-37.cust.tzulo.com) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 03:25:21 +0200 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) Lycurgus |
| 2025-07-28 03:25:34 +0200 | ljdarj | (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 03:28:28 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 03:34:20 +0200 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-07-28 03:44:59 +0200 | nshepperd | (nshepperd@2600:3c03::f03c:92ff:fe28:92c9) nshepperd |
| 2025-07-28 03:45:11 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 03:49:41 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 04:00:40 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 04:16:04 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 04:16:56 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) |
| 2025-07-28 04:20:33 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 04:20:57 +0200 | tessier | (~tessier@ec2-184-72-149-67.compute-1.amazonaws.com) tessier |
| 2025-07-28 04:31:30 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 04:36:34 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 04:38:27 +0200 | vulpine | (~xfnw@user/meow/xfnw) (K-Lined) |
| 2025-07-28 04:47:00 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 04:49:25 +0200 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) humasect |
| 2025-07-28 04:51:54 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 05:02:20 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 05:10:43 +0200 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-28 05:10:57 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-07-28 05:13:16 +0200 | jmorris | (uid604645@id-604645.hampstead.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) |
| 2025-07-28 05:13:27 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2025-07-28 05:13:50 +0200 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) (Quit: irc.renjuan.org (juan@acm.org)) |
| 2025-07-28 05:20:07 +0200 | Unicorn_Princess | (~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-07-28 05:20:23 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 05:36:03 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 05:44:58 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2025-07-28 05:51:40 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 05:56:36 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 06:00:16 +0200 | takuan | (~takuan@d8D86B9E9.access.telenet.be) |
| 2025-07-28 06:07:02 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 06:11:34 +0200 | michalz | (~michalz@185.246.207.200) |
| 2025-07-28 06:11:38 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 06:12:02 +0200 | gorignak | (~gorignak@user/gorignak) gorignak |
| 2025-07-28 06:14:29 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-28 06:14:43 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-07-28 06:16:31 +0200 | gorignak | (~gorignak@user/gorignak) (Client Quit) |
| 2025-07-28 06:20:21 +0200 | gorignak | (~gorignak@user/gorignak) gorignak |
| 2025-07-28 06:22:48 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 06:23:18 +0200 | jmorris | (uid604645@id-604645.hampstead.irccloud.com) jmorris |
| 2025-07-28 06:27:30 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 06:38:11 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 06:40:42 +0200 | f-a | (ff2a@joined.irc.for-some.fun) () |
| 2025-07-28 06:42:25 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
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| 2025-07-28 06:49:27 +0200 | vanishingideal | (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) vanishingideal |
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| 2025-07-28 06:56:13 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 07:11:35 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 07:24:16 +0200 | fp | (~Thunderbi@89-27-10-140.bb.dnainternet.fi) fp |
| 2025-07-28 07:31:24 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 07:34:44 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-28 07:43:24 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 07:58:46 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 08:09:20 +0200 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db) CiaoSen |
| 2025-07-28 08:09:53 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-28 08:14:23 +0200 | arandombit | (~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit |
| 2025-07-28 08:31:34 +0200 | biberu | (~biberu@user/biberu) biberu |
| 2025-07-28 08:33:01 +0200 | jmorris | (uid604645@id-604645.hampstead.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) |
| 2025-07-28 08:33:37 +0200 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2025-07-28 08:38:34 +0200 | ndudaev | (~ndudaev@213.17.133.9) |
| 2025-07-28 08:39:45 +0200 | ndudaev | (~ndudaev@213.17.133.9) (Changing host) |
| 2025-07-28 08:39:45 +0200 | ndudaev | (~ndudaev@user/ndudaev) ndudaev |
| 2025-07-28 08:42:47 +0200 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-61-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-28 08:43:02 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-61-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-07-28 08:55:43 +0200 | Square | (~Square4@user/square) Square |
| 2025-07-28 09:00:03 +0200 | caconym74 | (~caconym@user/caconym) (Quit: bye) |
| 2025-07-28 09:00:44 +0200 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-07-28 09:00:46 +0200 | caconym74 | (~caconym@user/caconym) caconym |
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| 2025-07-28 09:12:41 +0200 | jreicher | (~user@user/jreicher) (Quit: In transit) |
| 2025-07-28 09:17:58 +0200 | fp | (~Thunderbi@89-27-10-140.bb.dnainternet.fi) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 09:23:45 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-28 09:28:29 +0200 | haritz | (~hrtz@user/haritz) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-07-28 09:33:03 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
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| 2025-07-28 15:09:10 +0200 | <fp> | Looking at the conversation from yesterday, what is a CSE in the package/environment management context? I can't seem to get anything out of an internet search |
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| 2025-07-28 15:38:14 +0200 | Henson | (~kvirc@192-0-202-2.cpe.teksavvy.com) Henson |
| 2025-07-28 15:41:29 +0200 | <Henson> | hi everyone, I'm encountering a problem with foreign memory allocation and haskell-based threading using "async". If I allocate memory on one thread using callocBytes and pass that to another thread that deallocates it, I encounter a memory leak. When the Ptr is bundled into an ForeignPtr and the allocator/deallocator threads are spawned with "async" then the memory leak happens. But if... |
| 2025-07-28 15:42:27 +0200 | <Henson> | they're spawned with "asyncBound" then it doesn't happen. If instead of wrapping the Ptrs into ForeignPtrs I just pass the Ptrs from the allocator to deallocator thread, then the memory leak doesn't happen either. I'm trying to understand why the leak happens with the ForeignPtr + async combination. |
| 2025-07-28 15:43:13 +0200 | <Lycurgus> | looks like CSE was just a typo, not a design pattern at al, but someone had computer science education on mind |
| 2025-07-28 15:43:41 +0200 | <Lycurgus> | *at all |
| 2025-07-28 15:43:47 +0200 | <Henson> | I've tried many different RTS tuning parameters releated to garbage collection but nothing seems to help. The memory seems to be un-deallocatable. Even I called "performGC" often it doesn't make any difference. Pausing the threads doesn't make a difference. The memory seems like it can't be released properly and never gets cleaned up. |
| 2025-07-28 15:48:01 +0200 | ndudaev | (~ndudaev@83.29.118.149.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl) |
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| 2025-07-28 16:00:05 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> Maybe the ptrs are being held alive by something? |
| 2025-07-28 16:00:20 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> A minimal reproducer would be great |
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| 2025-07-28 16:35:40 +0200 | <merijn> | Wild guess is that the async is never cleaned up, keeping the pointer alive indefinitely |
| 2025-07-28 16:35:58 +0200 | <merijn> | Since async's doc even have a warning about using withAsync, since async might leak |
| 2025-07-28 16:37:41 +0200 | <merijn> | Async contains a ThreadId and threads are not GCed while you hold on to their threadid |
| 2025-07-28 16:38:08 +0200 | <merijn> | So if you're holding on to async's the threads don't get GCed and (in turn) nothing in that thread's GC root will be |
| 2025-07-28 16:40:31 +0200 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) (Quit: irc.renjuan.org (juan@acm.org)) |
| 2025-07-28 16:48:25 +0200 | AVA | (~AVA@84.54.80.216) |
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| 2025-07-28 16:55:58 +0200 | vulpine | (xfnw@user/meow/xfnw) xfnw |
| 2025-07-28 17:00:46 +0200 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-07-28 17:03:29 +0200 | remmie | (ianremsen@tilde.team) remsense |
| 2025-07-28 17:07:42 +0200 | <dolio> | CSE is 'common subexpression elimination.' It's a transformation where you look for subexpressions that occur multiple times, then turn them into named bindings so that they are evaluated at most once. |
| 2025-07-28 17:08:10 +0200 | <Henson> | merijn: the creator/destructor threads are created in pairs and use an MVar to pass the memory pointers back-and-forth. Only 10 creator/destructor pairs are ever created, but many many memory allocations/deallocations are performed. When the memory block allocated is a multiple of 1024*1024 (1 MB) then the leak also doesn't happen. Based on the block size the leak can be faster or slow |
| 2025-07-28 17:08:28 +0200 | <Henson> | merijn: I also tried using forkIO and forkOS instead of async, and the problem still happens. |
| 2025-07-28 17:09:05 +0200 | <Henson> | the leak seems to happen equally with GHC 8.10.7 and 9.12.2 |
| 2025-07-28 17:09:30 +0200 | kuribas | (~user@ptr-17d51epjby9myrcgbo7.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 17:09:35 +0200 | <dolio> | And the analogy with cabal is that common dependencies of multiple projects are built at most once and shared, rather than being built once for each project. |
| 2025-07-28 17:10:45 +0200 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) (Quit: WeeChat 4.5.2) |
| 2025-07-28 17:13:23 +0200 | <merijn> | Henson: The question is: Are you keeping Async values around somewhere? |
| 2025-07-28 17:14:29 +0200 | <dolio> | In the old sandbox setup, each (transitive) dependency would only ever be built once per sandbox . But there was no sharing of common dependencies between sandboxes, even if they wanted identical build specifications. |
| 2025-07-28 17:15:39 +0200 | fp | (~Thunderbi@2001:708:20:1406::10c5) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 17:16:08 +0200 | <merijn> | Not to mention sandboxes involved tedious manual management |
| 2025-07-28 17:17:30 +0200 | <Henson> | merijn: yes, just to "cancel" them at the end. If I don't keep the async values then the problem still occurs. The memory usage also seems to follow a pattern of flat usage for several seconds, then an increase in about 2 seconds to a higher value, then it flattens for maybe 7 seconds, then another gradual increase, etc. |
| 2025-07-28 17:18:00 +0200 | <merijn> | Henson: Have you profiled yet? |
| 2025-07-28 17:18:31 +0200 | <merijn> | Or checked the GC report? |
| 2025-07-28 17:19:21 +0200 | <merijn> | That said, this is hard to troubleshoot without a minimal reproducer like magic_rb said |
| 2025-07-28 17:20:15 +0200 | <Henson> | merijn: I have tried profiling, but the problem is that the calloc returns a pointer, which is tiny, but points to a large amount of memory. Because the memory is allocated in the C level, the RTS isn't able to keep track of it, so no significant memory usage shows up. |
| 2025-07-28 17:21:03 +0200 | <Henson> | merijn, magic_rb: I'm working on putting together a minimal reproducer. |
| 2025-07-28 17:21:03 +0200 | <merijn> | I would expect that to still show up as a PINNED allocation |
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| 2025-07-28 17:22:40 +0200 | sam113102 | sam113101 |
| 2025-07-28 17:22:40 +0200 | <Henson> | merijn: I don't think it does. I've done every kind of memory profiling the GHC's profiling offers, and the C-based memory allocation doesn't show up. |
| 2025-07-28 17:23:17 +0200 | <merijn> | Henson: Ah, wait |
| 2025-07-28 17:23:23 +0200 | <merijn> | The problem is calloc :) |
| 2025-07-28 17:23:34 +0200 | <merijn> | (not your leak problem, the profiling one) |
| 2025-07-28 17:23:43 +0200 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-51-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-07-28 17:23:58 +0200 | <Henson> | merijn: oh, also, the leak when using "async" will not happen with "+RTS -N1" |
| 2025-07-28 17:24:11 +0200 | <merijn> | Henson: Do you specifically need C malloc or just any allocation? |
| 2025-07-28 17:24:13 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-51-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-07-28 17:24:41 +0200 | <Henson> | merijn: the problem also happens with C++ "new" and "delete" |
| 2025-07-28 17:25:16 +0200 | <merijn> | Henson: I meant more like, using mallocForeignPtrBytes, which allocates using GHC's allocator and SHOULD appear in memory profiles |
| 2025-07-28 17:25:51 +0200 | <merijn> | Since it uses GHC's newAlignedPinnedByteArray, rather than malloc |
| 2025-07-28 17:26:40 +0200 | <merijn> | I've always used Foreign.ForeignPtr, so I was guessing that's why I'm used to seeing it in profiles while you might not |
| 2025-07-28 17:26:43 +0200 | <merijn> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.21.0.0/docs/Foreign-ForeignPtr.html#v:mallocForeignPtrB… |
| 2025-07-28 17:27:48 +0200 | <Henson> | merijn: the problem with that is that in my production code I don't know a-priori the amount of memory that should be allocated, because it's being allocated in the C/C++ layer and passed back to Haskell. |
| 2025-07-28 17:28:05 +0200 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) gehmehgeh |
| 2025-07-28 17:28:13 +0200 | <merijn> | ok, so you do specifically need malloc :) |
| 2025-07-28 17:28:31 +0200 | <Henson> | merijn: yes |
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