| 2025-07-10 00:00:59 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 00:03:49 +0200 | athan | (~athan@syn-047-132-161-157.res.spectrum.com) athan |
| 2025-07-10 00:06:19 +0200 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-07-10 00:06:58 +0200 | d34db33f | (~d34db33f@user/d34db33f) d34db33f |
| 2025-07-10 00:09:29 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-10 00:14:15 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 00:16:11 +0200 | sprotte24 | (~sprotte24@p200300d16f1294001cef72f177208735.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2025-07-10 00:21:47 +0200 | Rain_ | (Rain@user/Rain-:22721) Rain_ |
| 2025-07-10 00:23:29 +0200 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) (Quit: zzz) |
| 2025-07-10 00:24:53 +0200 | tmciver | (~tim@syn-198-255-177-240.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 00:25:16 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 00:25:42 +0200 | tmciver | (~tim@syn-198-255-177-240.res.spectrum.com) tmciver |
| 2025-07-10 00:30:25 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d182:6512:c2f9:c3a:b83d:6490) dtman34 |
| 2025-07-10 00:31:30 +0200 | jreicher | (~user@user/jreicher) jreicher |
| 2025-07-10 00:31:46 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 00:31:59 +0200 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) Sgeo |
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| 2025-07-10 00:35:23 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d182:6512:c2f9:c3a:b83d:6490) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-10 00:35:29 +0200 | tmciver | (~tim@syn-198-255-177-240.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 00:36:21 +0200 | tmciver | (~tim@syn-198-255-177-240.res.spectrum.com) tmciver |
| 2025-07-10 00:36:30 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) dtman34 |
| 2025-07-10 00:41:29 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-10 00:42:23 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d182:6512:c2f9:c3a:b83d:6490) dtman34 |
| 2025-07-10 00:43:19 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 00:44:04 +0200 | <jreicher> | merijn: I had a look at typeclassopedia. I think I understand why you said that and I agree. |
| 2025-07-10 00:44:22 +0200 | tmciver | (~tim@syn-198-255-177-240.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 00:45:20 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2025-07-10 00:46:00 +0200 | tmciver | (~tim@syn-198-255-177-240.res.spectrum.com) tmciver |
| 2025-07-10 00:48:14 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 00:50:28 +0200 | Catty | catties |
| 2025-07-10 00:52:46 +0200 | __monty__ | (~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2025-07-10 00:53:32 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d182:6512:c2f9:c3a:b83d:6490) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-10 00:54:12 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) dtman34 |
| 2025-07-10 00:54:33 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 00:55:36 +0200 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@91-159-69-59.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
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| 2025-07-10 00:58:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | monochrom: “If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.” |
| 2025-07-10 00:59:05 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 00:59:13 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-10 00:59:33 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) dtman34 |
| 2025-07-10 01:00:16 +0200 | catties | catttttttties |
| 2025-07-10 01:04:37 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 01:05:18 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-10 01:08:23 +0200 | catttttttties | catties |
| 2025-07-10 01:09:17 +0200 | mikess | (~sam@user/mikess) mikess |
| 2025-07-10 01:10:24 +0200 | tmciver | (~tim@syn-198-255-177-240.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 01:14:12 +0200 | athan | (~athan@syn-047-132-161-157.res.spectrum.com) athan |
| 2025-07-10 01:14:15 +0200 | <jreicher> | Only if you don't have naive set comprehension |
| 2025-07-10 01:14:53 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 01:19:45 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
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| 2025-07-10 01:27:34 +0200 | Leary | (~Leary@user/Leary/x-0910699) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2025-07-10 01:27:58 +0200 | trickard__ | trickard |
| 2025-07-10 01:30:37 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 01:31:38 +0200 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) () |
| 2025-07-10 01:32:44 +0200 | Leary | (~Leary@user/Leary/x-0910699) Leary |
| 2025-07-10 01:32:51 +0200 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah |
| 2025-07-10 01:35:39 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 01:38:05 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) peterbecich |
| 2025-07-10 01:41:06 +0200 | Rain_ | (Rain@user/Rain-:22721) (Quit: ZNC 1.10.0-rc1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-10 01:44:29 +0200 | mange | (~mange@user/mange) mange |
| 2025-07-10 01:44:36 +0200 | athan | (~athan@syn-047-132-161-157.res.spectrum.com) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2025-07-10 01:45:29 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
| 2025-07-10 01:45:39 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 01:46:24 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 01:47:30 +0200 | <Axman6> | geekosaur: probie: sorry for running away yesterday on all the C-FFI talk, it was very helpful. I have a feeling wrapping this library will be pretty difficult, because it does appear to call into C++ (and does need access to all these structs from various parts of the OS - this is the macOS endpoint security framework, so it does things like provide the stat struct of opened files, or structs that represent filesystem mounts) |
| 2025-07-10 01:48:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if it has C wrappers then those should deal with that for you. if it doesn't, well, C++ calling conventions are like the struct calling conventions I mentioned yesterday, only more so. |
| 2025-07-10 01:48:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the Raku folks died on that hill too 🙂 |
| 2025-07-10 01:49:38 +0200 | <Axman6> | yeah - well the current thing that's stopping c2hs is the enum : uint32_t stuff (I had a quick look to see if that's something that was added to a C standard but then went home) |
| 2025-07-10 01:49:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | cppreference says it's not in a C standard |
| 2025-07-10 01:50:13 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (they do generally note when C has something, sometimes in a different form) |
| 2025-07-10 01:51:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think SWIG has some ability to deal with both of those things, but that would add a layer of indirection because I don't think it supports generating Haskell bindings so you would need to generate something that Haskell can bind to |
| 2025-07-10 01:51:30 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 01:51:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (not necessarily C: IIRC SSWIG can generate Python bindings, then there's https://flora.pm/packages/@hackage/inline-python) |
| 2025-07-10 01:53:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | *SWIG |
| 2025-07-10 01:53:38 +0200 | <humasect> | why does haskell need building on mac(homebrew)? are there no binaries |
| 2025-07-10 01:53:46 +0200 | <humasect> | taking some hours |
| 2025-07-10 01:53:54 +0200 | <Axman6> | my interest in this was spurred by this announcement https://alt-romes.github.io/posts/2025-07-05-packaging-a-haskell-library-as-a-swift-binary-xcframe… which made the possibility of doing things by making a C wrapper that calls Haskell a possibility, but at some point I will probably still need to interact with the C structs |
| 2025-07-10 01:54:03 +0200 | <Axman6> | humasect: use ghcup, not homebrew |
| 2025-07-10 01:54:59 +0200 | <Axman6> | I would have thought homebrew also had the pre-compiled binaries the GHC team make, but nonetheless, homebrew is the wrong tool for the job, ghcup lets you manage multiple compilers, and all the tools like cabal, HLS |
| 2025-07-10 01:55:20 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 01:55:29 +0200 | falafel | (~falafel@2a0c:5a87:3104:8f01::f709) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 01:57:21 +0200 | <geekosaur> | homebrew is weird, I don't know why their binaries stuff doesn't have ghc on it and in any case you'd be stuck with whatever version they bottle I think. |
| 2025-07-10 01:58:29 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2025-07-10 01:59:44 +0200 | <Axman6> | geekosaur: have you done anything with inline-c? Wondering if that could avoid some of these issues by offloading more to the C compiler |
| 2025-07-10 01:59:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I know it exists but haven't used it |
| 2025-07-10 02:00:18 +0200 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-85-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-10 02:00:21 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 02:00:31 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-85-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-07-10 02:01:08 +0200 | <jackdk> | Axman6: I remember Frase doing a bunch of stuff with (?hs)c2hs when he was wrangling notmuch |
| 2025-07-10 02:01:20 +0200 | <jackdk> | Dunno if he played with inline-c any |
| 2025-07-10 02:02:24 +0200 | tmciver | (~tim@syn-198-255-177-240.res.spectrum.com) tmciver |
| 2025-07-10 02:02:38 +0200 | <Axman6> | yeah, I remember looking into that but seem to remember it not matching the sort of stuff I needed to do. Most ofwhat's causing me troubles is being able to interact with structs in Haskell defined in Apple's annoyingly nonstandard headers (I know jack, I can hear you already) |
| 2025-07-10 02:04:05 +0200 | <humasect> | Axman6: ohh. okay thanks |
| 2025-07-10 02:04:15 +0200 | jespada | (~jespada@r190-133-11-154.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 02:04:18 +0200 | phma | (~phma@host-67-44-208-10.hnremote.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-10 02:04:41 +0200 | <jackdk> | Axman6: (Not saying a word.) Does any of M. Chakravaty's stuff help you here? I remember him doing a lot of work on native macOS things. |
| 2025-07-10 02:05:12 +0200 | <Axman6> | Not sure, I'd have to have another look. A lot of that was before Apple added things like block (lambda) syntax IIRC |
| 2025-07-10 02:05:20 +0200 | phma | (phma@2001:5b0:211b:84d8:ea0c:3bd3:b60:4179) |
| 2025-07-10 02:05:25 +0200 | <Axman6> | having random ^'s in code makes tools sad |
| 2025-07-10 02:08:50 +0200 | <jackdk> | My gut instinct (which is probably way out of date) is that I'd want to talk over the C ABI, and so doing something like what the zeromq people did: provide a C wrapper that passes objects around as opaque pointers, that you can then FFI into much more easily. But I don't know your actual problem. |
| 2025-07-10 02:10:33 +0200 | <Axman6> | the problem with that is the sheer number of types I'd need to interact with - see Apple's _awful_ documentation here: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/endpointsecurity?language=objc |
| 2025-07-10 02:11:04 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 02:11:09 +0200 | <Axman6> | I need Chak or someone to write inline-swift. Feels like there'd likely be less of an impedance mismatch there |
| 2025-07-10 02:11:32 +0200 | <humasect> | COM objects.. |
| 2025-07-10 02:11:48 +0200 | <humasect> | (thats how it happens.) |
| 2025-07-10 02:12:11 +0200 | <jackdk> | I was going to suggest automatic generation of gobject wrappers just to troll Axman6 |
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| 2025-07-10 02:46:03 +0200 | <humasect> | eh 9gb free, not enough space for ghcup 9.12.x ? trying again. nothing else to remove. dont think this is much different than homebrew situation for how long it takes also. i remember there used to be a .pkg installer |
| 2025-07-10 02:46:15 +0200 | lisbeths | (uid135845@id-135845.lymington.irccloud.com) lisbeths |
| 2025-07-10 02:50:34 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
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| 2025-07-10 02:57:18 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Quit: Frostillicus) |
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| 2025-07-10 02:59:22 +0200 | <Axman6> | GHC is pretty big. But also, 9gb free on a mac is not enough regardless of GHC D: |
| 2025-07-10 02:59:28 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d182:6512:c2f9:c3a:b83d:6490) dtman34 |
| 2025-07-10 03:00:40 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 03:00:55 +0200 | <humasect> | hmmm yeah |
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| 2025-07-10 03:38:24 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-10 03:39:30 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) dtman34 |
| 2025-07-10 03:41:37 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 03:43:18 +0200 | infinity0 | (~infinity0@pwned.gg) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 03:45:38 +0200 | humasect_ | humasect |
| 2025-07-10 03:46:36 +0200 | CalimeroTeknik | (~calimero@ctkarch.org) |
| 2025-07-10 03:50:26 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-10 03:50:34 +0200 | echoreply | (~echoreply@45.32.163.16) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 03:52:33 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 03:58:10 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 04:04:41 +0200 | infinity0 | (~infinity0@pwned.gg) infinity0 |
| 2025-07-10 04:08:20 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 04:09:11 +0200 | wbrawner | (~wbrawner@static.205.41.78.5.clients.your-server.de) wbrawner |
| 2025-07-10 04:09:33 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d182:6512:c2f9:c3a:b83d:6490) dtman34 |
| 2025-07-10 04:12:57 +0200 | <monochrom> | GHC is only half that big. But ghcup needs twice of what GHC takes, temporarily. |
| 2025-07-10 04:13:34 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 04:13:40 +0200 | <monochrom> | Basically ghcup unpacks GHC into one directory, then copy to the final directory, then delete the unpacking. |
| 2025-07-10 04:13:52 +0200 | humasect | (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Quit: Leaving...) |
| 2025-07-10 04:14:40 +0200 | <monochrom> | Actually I think it is not up to ghcup, it is GHC bindist install script. |
| 2025-07-10 04:15:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yeh, and it's editing a bunch of paths as it does so |
| 2025-07-10 04:18:45 +0200 | phma | (phma@2001:5b0:210d:d2d8:28e4:6c9c:55f8:f877) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-10 04:20:13 +0200 | Lord_of_Life_ | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life |
| 2025-07-10 04:20:26 +0200 | carlo_h_ | (~carlo@user/carlo-h-:36448) carlo_h_ |
| 2025-07-10 04:21:05 +0200 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 04:21:36 +0200 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-07-10 04:24:03 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 04:25:14 +0200 | td_ | (~td@i5387091B.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 04:26:12 +0200 | Lord_of_Life_ | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 04:26:42 +0200 | td_ | (~td@i53870910.versanet.de) td_ |
| 2025-07-10 04:27:55 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-07-10 04:28:48 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 04:34:29 +0200 | echoreply | (~echoreply@2001:19f0:9002:1f3b:5400:ff:fe6f:8b8d) echoreply |
| 2025-07-10 04:39:28 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 04:39:32 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> Editing paths? |
| 2025-07-10 04:40:52 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d182:6512:c2f9:c3a:b83d:6490) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-10 04:42:25 +0200 | phma | (phma@2001:5b0:210b:f1e8:734f:632c:cae3:f702) |
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| 2025-07-10 04:50:11 +0200 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
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| 2025-07-10 04:50:27 +0200 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
| 2025-07-10 04:50:36 +0200 | olivial | (~benjaminl@user/benjaminl) benjaminl |
| 2025-07-10 04:51:24 +0200 | Katarushisu3 | (~Katarushi@finc-20-b2-v4wan-169598-cust1799.vm7.cable.virginm.net) Katarushisu |
| 2025-07-10 04:53:06 +0200 | Katarushisu | (~Katarushi@finc-20-b2-v4wan-169598-cust1799.vm7.cable.virginm.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 04:53:07 +0200 | Katarushisu3 | Katarushisu |
| 2025-07-10 04:54:13 +0200 | phma | (phma@2001:5b0:210b:f1e8:734f:632c:cae3:f702) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 04:55:13 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-07-10 04:55:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | Aren't there a bunch of paths in pkg.conf files that need to be rewritten for the install location still? (I know they've been working on being relocatable but I thought that wasn't quite done yet) |
| 2025-07-10 04:58:52 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d182:6512:c2f9:c3a:b83d:6490) dtman34 |
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| 2025-07-10 05:03:31 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d182:6512:c2f9:c3a:b83d:6490) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
| 2025-07-10 05:05:15 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) dtman34 |
| 2025-07-10 05:09:26 +0200 | phma | (phma@2001:5b0:210b:f1e8:734f:632c:cae3:f702) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2025-07-10 05:13:06 +0200 | phma | (~phma@2001:5b0:210d:c948:1cf:a497:23a0:1033) |
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| 2025-07-10 05:27:09 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
| 2025-07-10 05:29:23 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-10 05:34:09 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 05:36:24 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) dtman34 |
| 2025-07-10 05:42:20 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@c-73-242-68-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
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| 2025-07-10 05:49:08 +0200 | phma | (~phma@host-67-44-208-55.hnremote.net) |
| 2025-07-10 05:49:10 +0200 | JayKobe6k | (~jbarber@user/JayKobe6k) (Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3) |
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| 2025-07-10 06:00:38 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-10 06:04:09 +0200 | aaronv_ | (~aaronv@user/aaronv) aaronv |
| 2025-07-10 06:05:34 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 06:09:20 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
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| 2025-07-10 06:13:25 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> that's probably done by GHC Makefile, ghcup doesn't do anything with that |
| 2025-07-10 06:13:41 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-07-10 06:14:58 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/blob/master/hadrian/bindist/Makefile?ref_type=heads#L252 |
| 2025-07-10 06:15:30 +0200 | Square | (~Square@user/square) Square |
| 2025-07-10 06:16:05 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> ghcup just makes use of DESTDIR so not install straight to the target location |
| 2025-07-10 06:21:02 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> most package managers do that... some also have sandboxes (in case Makefile is buggy), unfortunately that's a bit harder (see https://github.com/teh/hsseccomp/issues/8) |
| 2025-07-10 06:22:16 +0200 | dtman34 | (~dtman34@2601:447:d182:6512:c2f9:c3a:b83d:6490) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in) |
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