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| 2026-05-25 13:26:11 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | tomsmeding: well, is your evaluator sequential or parallel? |
| 2026-05-25 13:26:23 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | if it is parallel, somehow work is coordinated, right? |
| 2026-05-25 13:26:45 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | so something says "eval1 is here, eval2 is there, etc..." across your 1024 cores or whatever |
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| 2026-05-25 13:27:52 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | the idea of laziness is that you do only work which is necessary |
| 2026-05-25 13:32:17 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | i don't think you can guarantee that only necessary work is being done on all 1024 cores |
| 2026-05-25 13:32:28 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | so maybe you are 90% necessary 10% unnecessary or something |
| 2026-05-25 13:32:35 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | in which case that looks a lot like amdahl's law |
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| 2026-05-25 13:56:51 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | segfaultfizzbuzz: amdahl's law says something about the scaling behaviour over multiple cores after you have chosen a specific evaluation strategy, and that strategy conforms to the assumptions of amdahl |
| 2026-05-25 13:57:20 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | re guaranteeing only necessary work: isn't that just a choice? |
| 2026-05-25 13:57:40 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | sure, you may be able to speculatively spawn more parallel work if you're willing to overestimate the set of actually necessary work |
| 2026-05-25 13:57:53 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | but that sounds more difficult than not speculating at all and only doing the work that has been shown to be necessary |
| 2026-05-25 13:58:16 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | and the "somehow work is coordinated" is true, kind of, but also not precise enough to be useful in this context I think |
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| 2026-05-25 13:58:53 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | how is work being coordinated precisely? Is the parallelisation explicit in the program being evaluated (e.g. mapConcurrently style), or is it implicit in the evaluation strategy when it discovers two independent thunks? |
| 2026-05-25 14:00:03 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | if you want to point at a connection here, you'll have to be more concrete/precise I think |
| 2026-05-25 14:01:37 +0000 | AlexZenon | (~alzenon@94.233.241.168) |
| 2026-05-25 14:02:42 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | (i.e. I'm happy to consider an analogue to Amdahl that's not precisely the original statement, but then you have to say what analogue you mean :p) |
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| 2026-05-25 14:42:48 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | if the evaluation wasn't needed, then that percentage of the parallelism is a waste |
| 2026-05-25 14:45:30 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | if you do single core eval then maybe you can be perfect at avoiding wasted work |
| 2026-05-25 14:45:49 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | i would guess that the percent of waste grows as you add cores |
| 2026-05-25 14:45:55 +0000 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | in many cases |
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| 2026-05-25 15:31:40 +0000 | <[exa]> | segfaultfizzbuzz: if the evaluation wasn't needed, then the parallelization strategy sucked in the first place and is not a subject to (extreme-case) situation described by Amdahl |
| 2026-05-25 15:33:29 +0000 | <[exa]> | you might be referring to the situation with unnecessary synchronization and re-computation over shared sub-computations, which is indeed triggered by the laziness, but it is more of a scheduling problem |
| 2026-05-25 15:34:50 +0000 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2aedc.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft |
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| 2026-05-25 15:43:04 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | segfaultfizzbuzz: right, with "wasted work", are you referring to synchronisation overheads which are not actually work specified in the program but solely for getting that work to be performed? |
| 2026-05-25 15:43:18 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | e.g. the RTS scheduler, mutex overhead, etc. |
| 2026-05-25 15:44:07 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | because the prime assumption for Amdahl's law implies that there is no such work |
| 2026-05-25 15:44:22 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | the assumption is in fact even stronger than that, but in particular it also means that there is no such overhead |
| 2026-05-25 15:45:03 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | The assumption is in fact never valid in practice! But as a result the formula is simple. All models are wrong, some are useful. |
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| 2026-05-25 15:45:09 +0000 | <int-e> | with GHC's runtime, several threads entering the same closure at the same time can all start evaluating it because a full lock is too expensive and purity means it's just a waste of effort rather than a correctness issue |
| 2026-05-25 15:45:27 +0000 | <int-e> | I would assume that "wasted work" refers to that |
| 2026-05-25 15:45:45 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | oh, right, that's also a thing |
| 2026-05-25 15:48:06 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | int-e: does a thread, when entering a closure, mark that closure as a black hole without locking it? (And if so, is a CAS also too expensive there?) |
| 2026-05-25 15:49:03 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | (I guess it might be) |
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