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2025-02-07 00:30:50 +0100kilolympus(~kilolympu@2a04:ee41:4:32b3:7e9f:f324:8323:112e) kilolympus
2025-02-07 00:31:45 +0100 <kilolympus> Not exactly sure where I should ask this (so pardon me if this is the wrong place), but is there a list of available libraries on the Hackage build server?
2025-02-07 00:32:16 +0100 <kilolympus> I want to check if libopus is available to link to while building, or whether I should be prepared for a build failure and need to upload docs manually
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2025-02-07 00:43:03 +0100 <geekosaur> #haskell-infrastructure would probably be the right place, but I'm pretty sure if it's not in a minimal Ubuntu install it won't be there and won't be installed on request
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2025-02-07 01:26:55 +0100 <davean> kilolympus: https://github.com/haskell-infra/hackage-doc-builder-config
2025-02-07 01:27:13 +0100 <davean> kilolympus: you can ask for a modification of cours
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2025-02-07 08:58:34 +0100 <kqr> I understand on an intellectual level why `const Just :: a -> b -> Maybe b` whereas `const . Just :: a -> b -> Maybe a` but I'd like to have some intuition for why inserting a composition operator sort of swaps the arguments. It feels like there's something happening there that is more fundamental.
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2025-02-07 09:01:07 +0100 <mauke> if f :: a -> b, then const f :: x -> a -> b
2025-02-07 09:01:18 +0100 <mauke> and const . f :: a -> x -> b
2025-02-07 09:01:37 +0100 <mauke> I don't see it as swapping, really
2025-02-07 09:01:44 +0100chele(~chele@user/chele) chele
2025-02-07 09:01:49 +0100 <mauke> it's just where the dummy argument gets inserted
2025-02-07 09:08:07 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-02-07 09:10:29 +0100 <kqr> Aah, I might be starting to get it!
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2025-02-07 09:12:36 +0100 <kqr> Since const f is really something like const f _ = f it will swallow a dummy argument before starting to apply f, whereas const . f first applies f and then swallows a dummy argument. Yeah, thinking of it that way helps.
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2025-02-07 09:13:02 +0100 <kqr> This also helps explain why (const . const . const) f and (const . const . const . f) behaves the way they do!
2025-02-07 09:13:14 +0100 <kqr> Thanks
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2025-02-07 09:54:26 +0100 <dminuoso> tomsmeding: By the way, the error was because I was missing a Generic instance.
2025-02-07 09:54:56 +0100 <dminuoso> I'm half-way convinced that this could be a GHC diagnostics bug.
2025-02-07 09:55:04 +0100merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-02-07 09:56:00 +0100 <dminuoso> Ill try and condense this into an isolated reproducer without servant next week.
2025-02-07 09:58:34 +0100 <dminuoso> At this point I've finally settled on an opinion: Servant while being a neat experiment is not worth the type trickery: TH is more suitable for the job.
2025-02-07 09:59:09 +0100 <dminuoso> It's *much* faster and can yield much better errors.
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2025-02-07 10:17:22 +0100 <tomsmeding> dminuoso: you know, given the appearance of that GServant or what was it, I already had an inkling that it might be that
2025-02-07 10:18:13 +0100AlexZenon(~alzenon@178.34.151.30)
2025-02-07 10:19:25 +0100 <tomsmeding> a lot of understanding how to read (and fix) type errors from GHC comes down to honing your mental model of in what situations these diagnostics arise, and that mental model is distressingly associative (as opposed to logical)
2025-02-07 10:19:30 +0100lxsameer(~lxsameer@Serene/lxsameer) lxsameer
2025-02-07 10:21:00 +0100 <tomsmeding> okay let me be more precise: I didn't intuit that _you_ were missing a Generic instance. Just that it was something with GServant not reducing due to (I didn't think this far)
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2025-02-07 10:21:15 +0100 <hololeap> I'm looking for any comments on ways this code can be improved: https://bpa.st/FTCA
2025-02-07 10:21:31 +0100 <tomsmeding> probably because essentially any time I've seen G* stuff in type errors, it was because the generics stuff was wrong, not because something else was :p
2025-02-07 10:22:22 +0100tzh(~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) (Quit: zzz)
2025-02-07 10:22:29 +0100 <dminuoso> tomsmeding: If this was some missing instance of some obscure deeply hidden GServerantSomething class that would have been obvious.
2025-02-07 10:22:42 +0100akegalj(~akegalj@141-136-207-93.dsl.iskon.hr)
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2025-02-07 10:23:16 +0100 <dminuoso> Im thinking the reason this all happened was because these are associated types of typeclass instances, and if the lack of a specific instance meant another instance was matched, I guess that could lead to associated types resolving to some nonsense.