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2025-08-27 01:54:53 +0000 <Axman6> I asked yesterday about whether there was a cbrt function, which exists in C++ at least, and apparently x**(1/3) is the best we can do. I thought I would take a look at what LLVM does, thinking "how hard could it be". Never mind: https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/main/libc/src/__support/math/cbrt.h
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2025-08-27 02:04:23 +0000 <haskellman> Hello, how to do formal proofs of Haskell programs ?
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2025-08-27 02:06:50 +0000 <geekosaur> Axman6: have you considered using FFI to an existing one?
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2025-08-27 02:07:57 +0000 <haskellbridge> <Axman6> That feels overkill for this particular problem, I’m just trying to add a new colour space to the Color package.
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2025-08-27 02:11:58 +0000 <Leary> Axman6: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/numeric-extras-0.1/docs/Numeric-Extras.html#v:cbrt
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2025-08-27 02:32:29 +0000 <haskellman> Hello everyone, Which prover should I choose to prove my Haskell program. Why can't Ijust import Haskell into the prover and have that as part of the compilation step ? How efficient is the code produced ? Thank you.
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2025-08-27 02:56:39 +0000 <geekosaur> there are no provers designed to take unmodified Haskell code. the closest you get is to modify Haskell code for Agda or Idris.
2025-08-27 02:57:56 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 02:59:34 +0000 <geekosaur> (dons modified XMonad.StackSet for Agda and proved it there, although I'm not sure if that's still online anywhere (I'm not finding it on a quick check)
2025-08-27 03:00:16 +0000 <geekosaur> (Wouter Swierstra also reimplemented it in Rocq to formally verify it, but that's a much larger transformation than Idris would be)
2025-08-27 03:00:45 +0000 <geekosaur> https://webspace.science.uu.nl/~swier004/publications/2012-haskell.pdf
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2025-08-27 06:40:35 +0000pmk(6afe4476a1@2a03:6000:1812:100::26d) (Server closed connection)
2025-08-27 06:40:43 +0000pmk(6afe4476a1@2a03:6000:1812:100::26d) pmk
2025-08-27 06:41:53 +0000sord937(~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) sord937
2025-08-27 06:44:27 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-08-27 06:45:01 +0000trickard_(~trickard@cpe-63-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-08-27 06:45:14 +0000trickard_(~trickard@cpe-63-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
2025-08-27 06:45:35 +0000paul(~paul@p200300d0c724c99a612f58614c2690c9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2025-08-27 06:45:39 +0000paulGuest1336
2025-08-27 06:50:18 +0000lortabac(~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) lortabac
2025-08-27 06:52:49 +0000jmcantrell_(~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 06:54:58 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 06:55:35 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
2025-08-27 07:00:02 +0000caconym747(~caconym@user/caconym) (Quit: bye)
2025-08-27 07:00:42 +0000caconym747(~caconym@user/caconym) caconym
2025-08-27 07:01:36 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 07:04:58 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine)
2025-08-27 07:07:03 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
2025-08-27 07:13:00 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 07:17:59 +0000Square3(~Square4@user/square) Square
2025-08-27 07:18:08 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 07:21:40 +0000gmg(~user@user/gehmehgeh) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2025-08-27 07:25:47 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 07:27:20 +0000segfaultfizzbuzz(~segfaultf@23-93-74-222.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 07:30:47 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 07:33:30 +0000gmg(~user@user/gehmehgeh) gehmehgeh
2025-08-27 07:36:47 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine)
2025-08-27 07:38:09 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
2025-08-27 07:41:34 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 07:48:18 +0000acidjnk(~acidjnk@p200300d6e7171900a9f37d216dcd4f2e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) acidjnk
2025-08-27 07:48:37 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-08-27 07:49:42 +0000gmg(~user@user/gehmehgeh) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-08-27 07:50:42 +0000ft(~ft@p4fc2a25a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: leaving)
2025-08-27 07:54:34 +0000bgtdsword(b968c1779f@user/titibandit) (Server closed connection)
2025-08-27 07:54:44 +0000bgtdsword(b968c1779f@user/titibandit) titibandit
2025-08-27 07:55:54 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
2025-08-27 07:57:09 +0000segfaultfizzbuzz(~segfaultf@23-93-74-222.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net)
2025-08-27 07:57:16 +0000gmg(~user@user/gehmehgeh) gehmehgeh
2025-08-27 07:58:34 +0000tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e4be:35da:9f42:3b49)
2025-08-27 07:59:36 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 08:01:27 +0000segfaultfizzbuzz(~segfaultf@23-93-74-222.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 08:04:31 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 08:05:44 +0000aforemny(~aforemny@2001:9e8:6cc0:e200:af3c:2230:d3c7:66cc) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2025-08-27 08:06:20 +0000aforemny(~aforemny@2001:9e8:6cc5:2e00:296d:a9d3:b7bc:dd10) aforemny
2025-08-27 08:09:59 +0000ridcully(~ridcully@p508ac666.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Server closed connection)
2025-08-27 08:10:22 +0000ridcully(~ridcully@p508ac666.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ridcully
2025-08-27 08:13:18 +0000segfaultfizzbuzz(~segfaultf@23-93-74-222.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net)
2025-08-27 08:13:52 +0000xnyhps(~xnyhps@2a02:2770:3:0:216:3eff:fe67:3288) (Server closed connection)
2025-08-27 08:14:04 +0000xnyhps(~xnyhps@s.xnyhps.nl)
2025-08-27 08:15:16 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 08:19:51 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 08:22:42 +0000hsw(~hsw@112-104-9-97.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-08-27 08:23:04 +0000hsw(~hsw@112-104-9-97.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw) hsw
2025-08-27 08:23:12 +0000segfaultfizzbuzz(~segfaultf@23-93-74-222.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 08:24:11 +0000ymherklotz(cb2c9cfbdd@2a03:6000:1812:100::29a) (Server closed connection)
2025-08-27 08:24:19 +0000ymherklotz(cb2c9cfbdd@2a03:6000:1812:100::29a) ymherklotz
2025-08-27 08:25:22 +0000kuribas(~user@2a02-1810-2825-6000-1263-84d5-2db5-c188.ip6.access.telenet.be) kuribas
2025-08-27 08:27:55 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 08:32:57 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-08-27 08:35:50 +0000chele(~chele@user/chele) chele
2025-08-27 08:37:31 +0000segfaultfizzbuzz(~segfaultf@23-93-74-222.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net)
2025-08-27 08:43:48 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 08:50:31 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 09:00:46 +0000wootehfoot(~wootehfoo@user/wootehfoot) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-08-27 09:01:48 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 09:02:35 +0000ljdarj(~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj
2025-08-27 09:06:47 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-08-27 09:10:29 +0000Rain_(\@user/Rain-:22721) Rain_
2025-08-27 09:13:35 +0000Leary(~Leary@user/Leary/x-0910699) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-08-27 09:15:18 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 09:16:54 +0000Leary(~Leary@user/Leary/x-0910699) Leary
2025-08-27 09:20:26 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 09:22:36 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 09:27:30 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 09:30:47 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 09:33:03 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-08-27 09:33:53 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
2025-08-27 09:35:45 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 09:38:25 +0000tzh(~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) (Quit: zzz)
2025-08-27 09:41:07 +0000segfaultfizzbuzz(~segfaultf@23-93-74-222.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 09:41:08 +0000tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e4be:35da:9f42:3b49) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2025-08-27 09:41:22 +0000__monty__(~toonn@user/toonn) toonn
2025-08-27 09:44:36 +0000xal(~xal@mx1.xal.systems) (Server closed connection)
2025-08-27 09:44:51 +0000xal(~xal@mx1.xal.systems) xal
2025-08-27 09:46:09 +0000trickard_trickard
2025-08-27 09:46:28 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 09:53:34 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 09:54:16 +0000tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e4be:35da:9f42:3b49)
2025-08-27 10:00:01 +0000bionade24(~quassel@server2.oscloud.info) (Server closed connection)
2025-08-27 10:00:13 +0000bionade24(~quassel@server2.oscloud.info) bionade24
2025-08-27 10:00:45 +0000xff0x(~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2025-08-27 10:04:30 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 10:06:11 +0000tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e4be:35da:9f42:3b49) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2025-08-27 10:09:08 +0000segfaultfizzbuzz(~segfaultf@23-93-74-222.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net)
2025-08-27 10:09:29 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 10:16:56 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2025-08-27 10:17:25 +0000tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e4be:35da:9f42:3b49)
2025-08-27 10:18:08 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
2025-08-27 10:20:18 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 10:25:05 +0000septimi(9f60f4cb70@user/septimi) (Server closed connection)
2025-08-27 10:25:13 +0000septimi(9f60f4cb70@user/septimi) septimi
2025-08-27 10:25:32 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-08-27 10:28:27 +0000Square3(~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-08-27 10:31:36 +0000hakutaku(~textual@chen.yukari.eu.org) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2025-08-27 10:34:42 +0000poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-08-27 10:35:02 +0000poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) poscat
2025-08-27 10:36:08 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 10:36:12 +0000amadaluzia(~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia) amadaluzia
2025-08-27 10:37:33 +0000hakutaku(~textual@chen.yukari.eu.org)
2025-08-27 10:40:56 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2025-08-27 10:44:54 +0000poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-08-27 10:46:35 +0000lortabac(~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2025-08-27 10:48:02 +0000poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) poscat
2025-08-27 10:49:16 +0000poscat0x04(~poscat@user/poscat) poscat
2025-08-27 10:51:51 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 10:53:06 +0000poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2025-08-27 10:54:30 +0000trickard(~trickard@cpe-63-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-08-27 10:54:43 +0000trickard(~trickard@cpe-63-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
2025-08-27 10:56:47 +0000lortabac(~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:55ab:e185:7f81:54a4) lortabac
2025-08-27 10:57:01 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 10:57:53 +0000trickard(~trickard@cpe-63-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-08-27 11:01:44 +0000xff0x(~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:13b:339d:e634:5db3)
2025-08-27 11:05:40 +0000trickard_(~trickard@cpe-63-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
2025-08-27 11:05:47 +0000ljdarj(~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2025-08-27 11:07:16 +0000crazazy(crazazy@tilde.town) crazazy
2025-08-27 11:07:42 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 11:10:26 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 11:14:20 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 11:15:08 +0000sprotte24(~sprotte24@p200300d16f05d70019dbd74b079549bc.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2025-08-27 11:16:36 +0000segfaultfizzbuzz(~segfaultf@23-93-74-222.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 11:19:46 +0000sm2n(ae95cb1267@user/sm2n) (Server closed connection)
2025-08-27 11:19:56 +0000sm2n(ae95cb1267@user/sm2n) sm2n
2025-08-27 11:22:43 +0000tremon(~tremon@83.80.159.219) tremon
2025-08-27 11:22:56 +0000ljdarj(~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj
2025-08-27 11:23:38 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
2025-08-27 11:23:39 +0000divlamirzhelezov
2025-08-27 11:23:50 +0000zhelezovdivlamir
2025-08-27 11:25:42 +0000trickard_(~trickard@cpe-63-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-08-27 11:25:47 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 11:25:56 +0000trickard_(~trickard@cpe-63-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
2025-08-27 11:26:16 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2025-08-27 11:30:32 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2025-08-27 11:33:39 +0000tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e4be:35da:9f42:3b49) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2025-08-27 11:35:45 +0000ubert1(~Thunderbi@178.115.39.91.wireless.dyn.drei.com) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2025-08-27 11:38:53 +0000itaipu(~itaipu@168.121.97.28) itaipu
2025-08-27 11:39:22 +0000tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e4be:35da:9f42:3b49)
2025-08-27 11:41:33 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 11:45:42 +0000segfaultfizzbuzz(~segfaultf@23-93-74-222.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net)
2025-08-27 11:46:10 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2025-08-27 11:49:35 +0000Lycurgus(~juan@user/Lycurgus) Lycurgus
2025-08-27 11:50:18 +0000ljdarj(~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 11:56:54 +0000img(~img@user/img) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in)
2025-08-27 11:57:21 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 11:59:40 +0000img(~img@user/img) img
2025-08-27 12:02:03 +0000hakutaku(~textual@chen.yukari.eu.org) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2025-08-27 12:02:30 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 12:02:35 +0000hakutaku(~textual@chen.yukari.eu.org)
2025-08-27 12:04:03 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
2025-08-27 12:06:01 +0000ljdarj(~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) ljdarj
2025-08-27 12:06:35 +0000haritz(~hrtz@209.35.65.79)
2025-08-27 12:06:35 +0000haritz(~hrtz@209.35.65.79) (Changing host)
2025-08-27 12:06:35 +0000haritz(~hrtz@user/haritz) haritz
2025-08-27 12:10:21 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine)
2025-08-27 12:10:53 +0000gmg(~user@user/gehmehgeh) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-08-27 12:12:56 +0000trickard_trickard
2025-08-27 12:13:11 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 12:14:25 +0000poscat0x04(~poscat@user/poscat) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-08-27 12:14:45 +0000poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) poscat
2025-08-27 12:15:57 +0000trickard(~trickard@cpe-63-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-08-27 12:16:10 +0000trickard(~trickard@cpe-63-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
2025-08-27 12:16:37 +0000tromp(~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e4be:35da:9f42:3b49) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2025-08-27 12:17:50 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2025-08-27 12:19:04 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2025-08-27 12:20:27 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
2025-08-27 12:28:56 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 12:32:09 +0000poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-08-27 12:32:36 +0000poscat(~poscat@user/poscat) poscat
2025-08-27 12:33:19 +0000Lord_of_Life(~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) Lord_of_Life
2025-08-27 12:33:52 +0000califax(~califax@user/califx) (Remote host closed the connection)
2025-08-27 12:34:00 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2025-08-27 12:34:23 +0000AlexNoo(~AlexNoo@5.139.233.33) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-08-27 12:34:47 +0000AlexNoo(~AlexNoo@5.139.233.33)
2025-08-27 12:37:06 +0000machinedgod(~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod
2025-08-27 12:38:21 +0000bitdex(~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) (Quit: = "")
2025-08-27 12:39:51 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-08-27 14:32:57 +0000 <bwe> What's the proper way to run `cabal repl` with `n` threads? `cabal repl --ghc-options='+RTS -N5'` does not show that it's run in threaded mode, should it?
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2025-08-27 14:49:46 +0000 <EvanR> maybe this https://jezenthomas.com/2025/03/10x-speedup-in-ghci/
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2025-08-27 14:52:44 +0000biberu\(~biberu@user/biberu) biberu
2025-08-27 14:53:06 +0000 <bwe> Should ghc should show me whether it starts in threaded mode or not?
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2025-08-27 14:56:05 +0000 <EvanR> threaded or not is a compile time thing
2025-08-27 14:56:26 +0000L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) ()
2025-08-27 14:56:29 +0000 <bwe> so, how can I check whether my options worked?
2025-08-27 14:57:25 +0000ent-_(~entgod@kapsi.fi) ent
2025-08-27 14:57:28 +0000 <EvanR> according to this stackoverflow there is rtsSupportsBoundThreads in Control.Concurrent
2025-08-27 14:57:44 +0000ezzieygu1wuf(~Unknown@user/ezzieyguywuf) ezzieyguywuf
2025-08-27 14:58:06 +0000 <EvanR> which isn't literally the same question but might work
2025-08-27 14:58:32 +0000 <bwe> it returns True for me
2025-08-27 14:59:16 +0000 <EvanR> in ghci?
2025-08-27 14:59:22 +0000 <bwe> yes
2025-08-27 14:59:31 +0000 <EvanR> I wonder if that's talking about the ghci program
2025-08-27 14:59:43 +0000 <EvanR> not your program
2025-08-27 14:59:55 +0000L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah
2025-08-27 15:00:00 +0000 <EvanR> either way, you ought to have your threads
2025-08-27 15:00:12 +0000 <EvanR> capabilities > 1
2025-08-27 15:00:48 +0000 <bwe> where do I find that?
2025-08-27 15:01:16 +0000 <bwe> it's really a pity, having a pure language yet the interface to use threads is so so user-unfriendly. I just want to turn it on in ghci and know whether it's actually turned on, so I can just focus on my code.
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2025-08-27 15:08:48 +0000 <EvanR> bwe, you just determined the threaded runtime "is on"
2025-08-27 15:09:00 +0000pabs3(~pabs3@user/pabs3) pabs3
2025-08-27 15:09:30 +0000 <EvanR> there is another thing in Control.Concurrent to set number of capabilities at runtime, which only works if you're using the threaded runtime
2025-08-27 15:09:33 +0000 <EvanR> setNumCapabilities
2025-08-27 15:09:33 +0000Everything(~Everythin@31.144.53.103) Everything
2025-08-27 15:09:50 +0000 <EvanR> see documentation
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2025-08-27 15:18:15 +0000 <bwe> oh, it works -- thanks, EvanR!
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2025-08-27 20:58:24 +0000 <tomsmeding> why does exposed-modules: in a cabal file accept a comma-less list of module names, but not reexported-modules:
2025-08-27 21:02:19 +0000 <hellwolf> | Some fields take lists of values, which are optionally separated by commas, except for the build-depends field, where the commas are mandatory.
2025-08-27 21:02:37 +0000 <hellwolf> nothing said about "reexported-modules", though.
2025-08-27 21:02:50 +0000 <hellwolf> very arbitrary...
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2025-08-27 21:20:04 +0000 <int-e> tomsmeding: it's because you can have stuff like `reexported-modules: containers:Data.Map as DataMap` so spaces aren't good separators
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2025-08-27 21:21:58 +0000 <int-e> (or at least you could when https://github.com/haskell/cabal/commit/62450f9a81bb7efccf1325a6addb15f693dcf755 landed; I have not actually checked whether that has changed)
2025-08-27 21:22:11 +0000arandombit(~arandombi@user/arandombit) arandombit
2025-08-27 21:23:00 +0000 <tomsmeding> int-e: :o that saves me a mixins clause
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2025-08-27 21:27:44 +0000 <tomsmeding> okay it doesn't actually work for me
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2025-08-27 21:28:13 +0000 <tomsmeding> the modules to rename come from a sublibrary, and I want the renamed modules to be available inside the library itself too; somehow this is making ghc very confused
2025-08-27 21:28:36 +0000 <tomsmeding> it tells me "could not load module 'renamed name'; it is a member of the hidden package 'sublibrary name'"
2025-08-27 21:28:58 +0000 <tomsmeding> 1. no it's not, the original name is; 2. you should not be looking for it in the sublibrary, it's a reexport of yourself, dammit
2025-08-27 21:29:07 +0000 <tomsmeding> but with mixins it did work so I'll use that instead :p
2025-08-27 21:29:32 +0000 <int-e> it doesn't sound like a *re*export
2025-08-27 21:30:09 +0000 <int-e> (I have no experience whatsoever with that feature, I just traced some repository history)
2025-08-27 21:31:32 +0000 <tomsmeding> but thank you in any case, that does explain the required commas :)
2025-08-27 21:31:43 +0000 <tomsmeding> although it would technically be unambiguous since "as" starts with a lowercase letter, and modules don't
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2025-08-27 21:33:50 +0000 <geekosaur> tomsmeding, could you open a ticket about that?
2025-08-27 21:34:52 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 21:35:00 +0000 <tomsmeding> geekosaur: I don't even know if what I'm doing is supposed to work, and in any case, if possible I'd like to stay within the subset of features that stack also supports
2025-08-27 21:35:27 +0000 <geekosaur> you blew that with mixins 🙂
2025-08-27 21:35:35 +0000 <tomsmeding> I think stack supports mixins
2025-08-27 21:35:59 +0000 <tomsmeding> otherwise why would people complain that `stack repl` fails at a particular use of them, but not in general? https://github.com/commercialhaskell/stack/issues/5077
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2025-08-27 23:08:02 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 23:10:24 +0000sprotte24(~sprotte24@p200300d16f05d70019dbd74b079549bc.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Leaving)
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2025-08-27 23:19:37 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
2025-08-27 23:20:02 +0000fgarcia(~lei@user/fgarcia) (Quit: Remote host closed the connection)
2025-08-27 23:21:43 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 23:21:48 +0000Axman9593(~Axman6@user/axman6) Axman6
2025-08-27 23:23:57 +0000fgarcia(~lei@user/fgarcia) fgarcia
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2025-08-27 23:26:49 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2025-08-27 23:30:22 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
2025-08-27 23:30:45 +0000Axman6(~Axman6@user/axman6) (*.net *.split)
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2025-08-27 23:34:57 +0000fgarcia(~lei@user/fgarcia) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2025-08-27 23:36:06 +0000jcarpenter2(~lol@2603:3016:1e01:b960:a521:2571:4042:b249) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2025-08-27 23:37:31 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 23:41:17 +0000fgarcia(~lei@user/fgarcia) fgarcia
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2025-08-27 23:44:53 +0000Frostillicus(~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
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2025-08-27 23:51:05 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
2025-08-27 23:56:08 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)