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2025-05-10 00:06:23 +0000 <EvanR> or a type class
2025-05-10 00:07:24 +0000 <EvanR> or yet another GADT to express the element of relation
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2025-05-10 00:09:45 +0000 <zfnmxt> Right right. okay, will do. Thanks again!
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2025-05-10 07:03:18 +0000 <ski> "if an instance of Alternative is also an instance of Monad, then empty >>= k = ..." -- i don't really like laws which don't belong to any particular type class. if there should be a (non-derivable) law relating operations of two type classes, neither of which being a super class of the other, then make a new subclass of both, even if only to host the extra law(s), having zero additional methods. (yes, and
2025-05-10 07:03:24 +0000 <ski> imho, that about `Bounded' and `Enum' is a mistake .. as would be law relating `Read' and `Show' -- without having common subclasses for these)
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2025-05-10 07:09:20 +0000 <ski> mauke : "in OO, is there a term for mutator methods that don't actually mutate the object but return a modified copy?" -- i would probably say "clone method" (the term "functional update" has also been used). cf. "Functional objects" <https://ocaml.org/manual/5.3/objectexamples.html#s:functional-objects>, and the next "Cloning objects" section, in the OCaml manual
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2025-05-10 07:21:15 +0000 <Maxdamantus> Lombok (Java) originally called them "wither"s I think, corresponding with a `@Wither` annotation.
2025-05-10 07:21:36 +0000 <Maxdamantus> though they apparently changed it to `@With` before it was stabilised.
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2025-05-10 10:58:33 +0000 <hellwolf> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/elGjL2Go what do people do without GADT to express such a data type?
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2025-05-10 11:00:38 +0000 <int-e> erase the type argument, hope for the best
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2025-05-10 11:04:09 +0000 <hellwolf> right. runtime asserts or tests.
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2025-05-10 18:09:29 +0000 <hellwolf> the unused type variable of a type synonym is completely ignored, right?
2025-05-10 18:10:16 +0000hellwolfis not complete crazy; just touched some grass and came back.
2025-05-10 18:10:53 +0000 <geekosaur> I believe so, since it's the expansion that matters to the typechecker
2025-05-10 18:11:40 +0000j1n37-(~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37
2025-05-10 18:11:49 +0000 <hellwolf> probably it should be a warning in -Wall
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2025-05-10 18:12:28 +0000 <hellwolf> what would be a sane reason for it even be used?
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2025-05-10 18:13:34 +0000 <geekosaur> backward compatibility when something changes such that it's not needed any more?
2025-05-10 18:14:34 +0000 <hellwolf> or fitting some type shape of others API
2025-05-10 18:14:40 +0000euleritian(~euleritia@dynamic-176-006-133-107.176.6.pool.telefonica.de)
2025-05-10 18:15:56 +0000 <hellwolf> I guess newtype wrapper is inevitable. I wasn't 100% sure of it until I tried in playground.
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2025-05-10 18:19:17 +0000 <EvanR> yes unused things are good
2025-05-10 18:19:42 +0000 <EvanR> then you can have an array of things of the same form fit the same shape
2025-05-10 18:21:13 +0000drewr(~drew@user/drewr) drewr
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2025-05-10 18:21:37 +0000 <EvanR> like a zero ohm resistor is pointless because it has no resistance right, but can be handled by the resistor placing robot
2025-05-10 18:24:38 +0000merijn(~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn
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2025-05-10 18:38:29 +0000 <[exa]> EvanR: "this resistor is 0 ohms, we can omit it!!!"
2025-05-10 18:40:14 +0000 <EvanR> now the board is broken
2025-05-10 18:40:18 +0000 <geekosaur> they're called "jumpers" 😛
2025-05-10 18:42:33 +0000 <geekosaur> (and they actually make 0-ohm resistors for that purpose, since they can be handled by wave soldering which standard jumpers fail with)
2025-05-10 18:43:22 +0000 <EvanR> I tried to find a "computer chip" emoji but instead found 𓀨
2025-05-10 18:43:56 +0000 <geekosaur> I think you need one of the add-on packs on discord for that 😛
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2025-05-10 18:44:24 +0000 <EvanR> https://i.imgur.com/qGnzYt8.png
2025-05-10 18:45:30 +0000 <[exa]> EvanR: that looks like integrated circuits way before miniaturization
2025-05-10 18:45:38 +0000 <[exa]> a true hieroglyph
2025-05-10 18:45:39 +0000 <geekosaur> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fear_Factory_Digimortal.jpg
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2025-05-10 18:53:18 +0000 <EvanR> egyptians were ahead of their time, computer chips and emoji
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2025-05-10 19:30:32 +0000 <monochrom> "I tried to find a computer chip. Instead I found a truckload of computer chips." >:)
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2025-05-10 19:38:45 +0000 <int-e> Where is this going... the transistor of Gisa?
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2025-05-10 23:45:58 +0000 <EvanR> getting hungry https://paste.tomsmeding.com/GES6mVzP
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2025-05-10 23:52:04 +0000 <monochrom> Literally "The Haskell Cookbook"? :)
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