| 2025-03-01 00:00:18 +0000 | ell | (~ellie@user/ellie) ellie |
| 2025-03-01 00:01:07 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> you could hack it with CPP, i suppose |
| 2025-03-01 00:01:14 +0000 | <c_wraith> | You can do better than that |
| 2025-03-01 00:01:42 +0000 | <c_wraith> | You can put platform-specific stuff in separate trees and conditionally include those trees depending on platform in cabal |
| 2025-03-01 00:02:05 +0000 | <c_wraith> | But it involves a lot of manual work, and a good platform would have a better abstraction for that. |
| 2025-03-01 00:02:15 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> but the entire point is so that you're building full stack in one module, one module at a time |
| 2025-03-01 00:02:43 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> tbh with CPP, you don't actually need Haskell |
| 2025-03-01 00:06:10 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphic_JavaScript |
| 2025-03-01 00:06:16 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> also this is basically what i was looking for, oh well |
| 2025-03-01 00:12:33 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> that also brings miso into play, which advertises itself as isomorphic |
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| 2025-03-01 01:07:47 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> but c_wraith, I'm still wondering, if you have a simple datatype of backend, frontend, client |
| 2025-03-01 01:08:00 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> i mean, you can still opt to go the compiler plugin route |
| 2025-03-01 01:08:01 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Liamzee> ugh |
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| 2025-03-01 09:03:09 +0000 | <[exa]> | morning all! saturday package scan: is there anything like Aeson that would somewhat transparently work with JSON-LD "annotations"? I assume it could be done quite reasonably with custom aeson instances, but ideally I'd like autogenerated instances that have the proper annotations already. |
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| 2025-03-01 09:49:54 +0000 | euouae | (~euouae@user/euouae) euouae |
| 2025-03-01 09:50:06 +0000 | <euouae> | Hello if I want to include numbers in my source files is it possible without breaking the emacs IDE or lsp etc? |
| 2025-03-01 09:51:05 +0000 | lxsameer | (~lxsameer@Serene/lxsameer) lxsameer |
| 2025-03-01 09:51:45 +0000 | misterfish | (~misterfis@84.53.85.146) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
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| 2025-03-01 09:54:02 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | ... what |
| 2025-03-01 09:54:19 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | > 2 |
| 2025-03-01 09:54:20 +0000 | <lambdabot> | 2 |
| 2025-03-01 09:54:23 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | those kinds of numbers? |
| 2025-03-01 09:54:57 +0000 | manwithluck | (~manwithlu@185-183-33-218.hosted-by-worldstream.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
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| 2025-03-01 10:01:38 +0000 | manwithluck | (~manwithlu@2a00:7c80:0:3a6::12) manwithluck |
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| 2025-03-01 10:13:24 +0000 | acidjnk_new | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e7283f23d472fd3bae079d4a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) acidjnk |
| 2025-03-01 10:15:05 +0000 | Sgeo__ | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-03-01 10:18:03 +0000 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@91-159-69-59.elisa-laajakaista.fi) Tuplanolla |
| 2025-03-01 10:19:11 +0000 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2025-03-01 10:22:13 +0000 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) gehmehgeh |
| 2025-03-01 10:24:04 +0000 | <[exa]> | tomsmeding: might be that LSP nowadays breaks even on this |
| 2025-03-01 10:28:37 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: I can tell you that I am successfully using numbers in my haskell code |
| 2025-03-01 10:28:56 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | the neither my editor, nor the LSP, nor HLS breaks on numbers |
| 2025-03-01 10:33:08 +0000 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee |
| 2025-03-01 10:35:08 +0000 | <Leary> | I fear they're trying to write HASIC. |
| 2025-03-01 10:35:40 +0000 | CryptLab | (NSA@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/commanderbond007) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 10:35:42 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | it would be hilarious if someone actually made an implementation of HASIC |
| 2025-03-01 10:35:44 +0000 | <sprout> | line numbers I assume |
| 2025-03-01 10:36:13 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | euouae: the tension is killing, enlighten us |
| 2025-03-01 10:37:37 +0000 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 10:38:05 +0000 | <mauke> | 10 main :: IO () |
| 2025-03-01 10:38:09 +0000 | <mauke> | 20 main = do |
| 2025-03-01 10:38:17 +0000 | <mauke> | 30 putStrLn "hello" |
| 2025-03-01 10:38:22 +0000 | <mauke> | 40 goto 20 |
| 2025-03-01 10:38:38 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | what would that even _mean_ |
| 2025-03-01 10:39:03 +0000 | <mauke> | just be glad that I didn't jump into the type signature! |
| 2025-03-01 10:39:35 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | somewhat, but I'm still uncomfortable |
| 2025-03-01 10:40:31 +0000 | <mauke> | oh, I just thought of another way to "include numbers in my source files" |
| 2025-03-01 10:40:37 +0000 | <mauke> | #include "/dev/fd/0" |
| 2025-03-01 10:41:23 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | that's about as reasonable an interpretation as claiming that they're used to macOS and actually meant a spreadsheet |
| 2025-03-01 10:43:22 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | mauke: on second thoughts I'm starting to like your last suggestion |
| 2025-03-01 10:43:42 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | it's as close as you're going to get to "including" a "number", really |
| 2025-03-01 10:46:37 +0000 | <euouae> | tomsmeding: oh sorry, I mean file *names* |
| 2025-03-01 10:46:57 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | we were getting so close! |
| 2025-03-01 10:47:03 +0000 | <euouae> | I'm doing some leetcode challenges but 123.hs is bad I think |
| 2025-03-01 10:47:21 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | works perfectly fine for me |
| 2025-03-01 10:47:26 +0000 | <euouae> | anyway right now I just have all the solutions in one file separated by -- * |
| 2025-03-01 10:47:27 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | it's not a valid file name in a cabal project |
| 2025-03-01 10:47:36 +0000 | <euouae> | oh yeah, I use cabal |
| 2025-03-01 10:47:39 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | but as a single file, HLS is okay with it for me |
| 2025-03-01 10:47:53 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | in a cabal project, a module file must always have the module name as its file name |
| 2025-03-01 10:47:58 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | and module names must start with a capital letter |
| 2025-03-01 10:48:19 +0000 | <euouae> | Perhaps I can do something like E123.hs for exercise 123? |
| 2025-03-01 10:48:22 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | yes |
| 2025-03-01 10:48:35 +0000 | <euouae> | Okay, thank you. I'm actually thinking I'll just keep it all in one flat file |
| 2025-03-01 10:49:14 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | euouae: imagine what would happen if you would try to use such a module qualified |
| 2025-03-01 10:49:20 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | > Data.Maybe.isJust (Just 42) |
| 2025-03-01 10:49:22 +0000 | <lambdabot> | True |
| 2025-03-01 10:49:37 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | would that be `Exercises.12 input`? how would the parser even know what you mean tthere |
| 2025-03-01 10:50:28 +0000 | <euouae> | I get ti |
| 2025-03-01 10:50:40 +0000 | <euouae> | Another stupid question, in my test/ I have Main.hs and Tests.hs |
| 2025-03-01 10:50:55 +0000 | <euouae> | Tests.hs has the hedgehog generated/discovered tests, how can I import that in Main.hs? |
| 2025-03-01 10:51:05 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | `import Tests`? |
| 2025-03-01 10:51:10 +0000 | <euouae> | I get `These modules are needed for compilation but not listed in your .cabal file's other-modules for ‘leetcode-0.1.0.0-inplace-leetcode-test’ :` |
| 2025-03-01 10:51:17 +0000 | <euouae> | naming Tests as the module |
| 2025-03-01 10:51:27 +0000 | <euouae> | It's a warning-Wmissing-home-modules |
| 2025-03-01 10:51:27 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | right, you need `other-modules: Tests` in the test-suite block in your cabal file |
| 2025-03-01 10:51:55 +0000 | __monty__ | (~toonn@user/toonn) toonn |
| 2025-03-01 10:51:55 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | you always need to list all modules that you're defining in the cabal file, either in other-modules or in exposed-modules (the latter relevant only for libraries) |
| 2025-03-01 10:52:26 +0000 | <euouae> | nice, thakn you |
| 2025-03-01 10:54:14 +0000 | <Leary> | tomsmeding: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/BASIC-0.1.5.0/docs/Language-BASIC.html |
| 2025-03-01 10:59:29 +0000 | killy | (~killy@terminal-3-187.retsat1.com.pl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
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| 2025-03-01 11:12:22 +0000 | talisman` | (~user@2601:644:937c:ed10::ae5) |
| 2025-03-01 11:13:03 +0000 | <euouae> | Does anyone know how I can turn off all the hlint recommendations |
| 2025-03-01 11:13:08 +0000 | <euouae> | holy cow they're annoying on emacs |
| 2025-03-01 11:13:56 +0000 | <euouae> | You're moving the cursor point on a symbol to see its type and boom Clippy pops up "It looks like you're not optimizing your endofunctors here" |
| 2025-03-01 11:14:21 +0000 | <euouae> | I've tried to turn them off selectively I'm thinking that I just don't want them at all |
| 2025-03-01 11:14:33 +0000 | talismanick | (~user@2601:644:937c:ed10::ae5) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 11:17:37 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | euouae: figure out where you put language server configuration in your emacs LSP client |
| 2025-03-01 11:17:56 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | the setting you need to set is haskell.plugin.hlint.globalOn = false |
| 2025-03-01 11:18:32 +0000 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee |
| 2025-03-01 11:23:05 +0000 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 11:24:45 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | Leary: I've actually seen that before, it's genius |
| 2025-03-01 11:27:37 +0000 | <euouae> | thank you!! |
| 2025-03-01 11:27:38 +0000 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) (Quit: zzz) |
| 2025-03-01 11:28:02 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | (I have that set, as well as haskell.plugin.stan.globalOn = false) |
| 2025-03-01 11:28:09 +0000 | <euouae> | what's that? |
| 2025-03-01 11:28:15 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | more annoying messages :3 |
| 2025-03-01 11:28:17 +0000 | <euouae> | I think stan is the otehr one. I've noticed I get lint-like things from 2 difefrent sources |
| 2025-03-01 11:29:02 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | I'm not saying stan or hlint are bad, I personally just don't need or want them in my editor (and I think HLS is a bit over-eager in making them opt-out instead of opt-in) |
| 2025-03-01 11:29:10 +0000 | <euouae> | They should be opt-in |
| 2025-03-01 11:29:27 +0000 | <euouae> | but anyway, the slice of haskell + emacs programmers is so small that maybe it doesn't matter |
| 2025-03-01 11:29:39 +0000 | <euouae> | they're just not interacting well with emacs, that's all |
| 2025-03-01 11:29:49 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | euouae: how does it look in emacs? |
| 2025-03-01 11:30:01 +0000 | <euouae> | It's attention-grabbing and erratic |
| 2025-03-01 11:30:20 +0000 | <euouae> | pop up messages that hide other stuff, etc |
| 2025-03-01 11:30:26 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | I find them annoying in vim too but from what you're saying it's not quite as bad :) |
| 2025-03-01 11:30:31 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | do warnings also pop up? |
| 2025-03-01 11:30:36 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | I'd find that annoying too :p |
| 2025-03-01 11:30:40 +0000 | <euouae> | no, those are in a separate window |
| 2025-03-01 11:30:52 +0000 | <euouae> | I can check whatever I need when I check that window |
| 2025-03-01 11:31:02 +0000 | <euouae> | but I don't want squiggly lines, annoying pop ups, etc |
| 2025-03-01 11:31:06 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | oh wait 'info'-level messages are more in-your-face than warnings? |
| 2025-03-01 11:31:15 +0000 | <euouae> | yeah lol |
| 2025-03-01 11:31:19 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | that sounds like a mistake in the emacs lsp client :p |
| 2025-03-01 11:31:32 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | because this is not just HLS, those levels are in the LSP protocol in general |
| 2025-03-01 11:31:54 +0000 | <euouae> | Emasc UI is not designed for *all* intents and purposes. Certain things are anti patterns in emacs |
| 2025-03-01 11:31:58 +0000 | <euouae> | in particular popup messages |
| 2025-03-01 11:32:20 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | sounds like this is your chance to improve emacs :) |
| 2025-03-01 11:32:22 +0000 | <euouae> | well I can't fix everything, so I'll just ignore this |
| 2025-03-01 11:32:26 +0000 | <euouae> | yeah I knew you were going to say this |
| 2025-03-01 11:32:28 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | :p |
| 2025-03-01 11:32:34 +0000 | <euouae> | I've sent hundreds of useless stupid patches over time |
| 2025-03-01 11:32:45 +0000 | <euouae> | and sometimes, I've even gotten into fights for those stupid patches... I'm kind of checked out |
| 2025-03-01 11:32:58 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | I totally understand :p |
| 2025-03-01 11:36:45 +0000 | <euouae> | sweet! I got it to work. thank you |
| 2025-03-01 11:36:59 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | yay |
| 2025-03-01 11:38:42 +0000 | <euouae> | tomsmeding: it doesn't help I have a generally different temperament from the average programmer. kind of a short fuse, and it's been getting shorter... It's only so many times I can keep it together when I send a doc patch that turns into a feature rewrite into getting lectured on x86 assembly cycle cost |
| 2025-03-01 11:38:56 +0000 | rvalue | (~rvalue@user/rvalue) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-03-01 11:38:57 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | heh |
| 2025-03-01 11:39:28 +0000 | rvalue | (~rvalue@user/rvalue) rvalue |
| 2025-03-01 11:39:55 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | the nice thing about open source is that you can contribute, but also that you can fork, and furthermore that nobody requires you to contribute :p |
| 2025-03-01 11:41:03 +0000 | <euouae> | When I was a wee bit naive I thought it was a good idea to spend a few months studying the source of a somewhat complicated program (cryptography, etc) before sending a message to the dev, asking to join the project |
| 2025-03-01 11:41:50 +0000 | <euouae> | I got a really deflationary message in response. I thought, I know, I'll rewrite it in Rust. A few more weeks, (or months was it?) I realized I made the wrong design choice by going with green threads because the rust USB library does not support them |
| 2025-03-01 11:42:30 +0000 | <euouae> | and then libusb + async was this huge rabbit hole wish list item that I never went down to. gave up ;p |
| 2025-03-01 11:42:38 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | yeah in the haskell playground readme I have a note saying to get in contact before you write lots of code, precisely for this reason |
| 2025-03-01 11:42:58 +0000 | <euouae> | No, you're so right. But sometimes you make mistakes before you learn |
| 2025-03-01 11:43:35 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | re forking: I build my own HLS because I have a particular patch that I want in there but I'm too lazy to properly contribute a configuration setting for it |
| 2025-03-01 11:43:52 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | I asked for that setting (can't find the issue now) but it never materialised, so periodic room heating is what it is |
| 2025-03-01 11:43:52 +0000 | wootehfoot | (~wootehfoo@user/wootehfoot) wootehfoot |
| 2025-03-01 11:44:46 +0000 | <euouae> | lol |
| 2025-03-01 11:45:46 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | here we go https://github.com/haskell/haskell-language-server/pull/2332#issuecomment-965094062 |
| 2025-03-01 11:46:49 +0000 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) L29Ah |
| 2025-03-01 11:47:25 +0000 | <euouae> | looks like your questoin went unanswered heh |
| 2025-03-01 11:47:40 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | I even specifically gave them licence to not answer |
| 2025-03-01 11:47:56 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | I'm not blaming them :p |
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| 2025-03-01 13:57:23 +0000 | <Axman6> | Anyone know why when I have an executable in my cabal file, when I use "ghc-options: -O2 -threaded -rtsopts -with-rtsopts=-N" I get "unexpected RTS argument: "-N"" and the rts help printed out, including the help telling me I can use -N? |
| 2025-03-01 13:58:04 +0000 | <Axman6> | It's particularly frustrating because I can see there's thousands of cabal files on github using exactly this pattern |
| 2025-03-01 14:00:34 +0000 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-03-01 14:00:58 +0000 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex |
| 2025-03-01 14:01:26 +0000 | eL_Bart0 | (eL_Bart0@dietunichtguten.org) |
| 2025-03-01 14:03:58 +0000 | <Axman6> | URGH, cabal build wasn't rebuilding my binary when the flags changed! FFS |
| 2025-03-01 14:05:31 +0000 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) (Quit: praxis.meansofproduction.biz (juan@acm.org)) |
| 2025-03-01 14:07:41 +0000 | <mauke> | ca-ching |
| 2025-03-01 14:11:15 +0000 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) (Quit: Bye!) |
| 2025-03-01 14:19:03 +0000 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
| 2025-03-01 14:19:26 +0000 | GdeVolpiano | Guest2641 |
| 2025-03-01 14:19:26 +0000 | GdeVolpi1 | GdeVolpiano |
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| 2025-03-01 14:29:18 +0000 | <int-e> | Axman6: Let me go out on a limb and ask... what non-ELF platform is this? |
| 2025-03-01 14:34:34 +0000 | <int-e> | (cabal-install relies on GHC for recompilation checks. I learned recently that GHC stores compile flags in a special section in ELF executables to make that work, but not on other platforms) |
| 2025-03-01 14:36:31 +0000 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a03:7846:b6eb:101:93ac:a90a:da67:f207) ash3en |
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| 2025-03-01 14:46:05 +0000 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a03:7846:b6eb:101:93ac:a90a:da67:f207) ash3en |
| 2025-03-01 14:47:20 +0000 | hattckory | (~hattckory@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-48-184-145-138-167.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 2025-03-01 14:48:25 +0000 | tanky | (~tanky@user/tanky) (WeeChat 3.8) |
| 2025-03-01 14:50:50 +0000 | euouae | (~euouae@user/euouae) () |
| 2025-03-01 14:57:21 +0000 | hattckory | (~hattckory@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-48-184-145-138-167.dsl.bell.ca) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
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| 2025-03-01 15:07:55 +0000 | <Axman6> | it is indeed macOS |
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| 2025-03-01 19:16:23 +0000 | <Guest1> | Good evening everyone (GMT+1) here |
| 2025-03-01 19:16:41 +0000 | <Guest1> | I have a strange issue with cabal/ghc |
| 2025-03-01 19:17:04 +0000 | <Guest1> | Currently working under macOS, no idea if it’s related |
| 2025-03-01 19:17:14 +0000 | gawen | (~gawen@user/gawen) gawen |
| 2025-03-01 19:21:01 +0000 | <Guest1> | I created an empty project (cabal init), filled two dependencies (duckdb-haskell, yaml), and « cabal build »… then cabal seems stuck with the message « Building duckdb-haskell-0.1.0.0 (lib) ». No network usage, no CPU… nothing. |
| 2025-03-01 19:22:44 +0000 | <[exa]> | Guest1: wow, can you try something like `dtrace` if available to check where it is stuck? |
| 2025-03-01 19:22:58 +0000 | <[exa]> | maybe it's `truss`, on linux it's normally `strace` |
| 2025-03-01 19:23:26 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> Guest1, check if it's using up your memory, with top |
| 2025-03-01 19:23:58 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> * memory and swapping, |
| 2025-03-01 19:24:23 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> you could also make it more verbose with -v |
| 2025-03-01 19:25:18 +0000 | <Guest1> | using top and the monitor (graphical top for macosx) only shows the cabal process, but no cpu, no memory hogs |
| 2025-03-01 19:25:35 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> (as a mac user, I can say that trace/truss won't be easy) |
| 2025-03-01 19:25:52 +0000 | <Guest1> | With -v, it stops on the message. Running: /Users/slac/.ghcup/bin/cabal-3.12.1.0 act-as-setup '--build-type=Simple' -- build '--verbose=2' '--builddir=dist' |
| 2025-03-01 19:26:01 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> maybe it's hung on networking then ? |
| 2025-03-01 19:26:26 +0000 | acidjnk_new | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e7283f23fd140dc145444417.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2025-03-01 19:27:34 +0000 | <Guest1> | good idea : I do have a firewall which could block scripts and terminal commands. I usually do get alert messages when some program tries to access the Internet, but maybe it’s silently failing here. |
| 2025-03-01 19:29:49 +0000 | <Guest1> | Hmm… not sure, not seeing anything on the FW. I do not know dtrace, how could it help me on this ? |
| 2025-03-01 19:32:16 +0000 | lxsameer | (~lxsameer@Serene/lxsameer) lxsameer |
| 2025-03-01 19:33:40 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> do you have little snitch running ? Nothing recently denied ? |
| 2025-03-01 19:34:22 +0000 | <Guest1> | No. The issue seems to come from the duckdb package. cabal works fine if I remove that dependency. |
| 2025-03-01 19:34:36 +0000 | <[exa]> | Guest1: ah it's `dtruss` on mac, sorry for confusion. Basically you can connect it to a process and see what systemcall it's hung on. See e.g. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31045575/how-to-trace-system-calls-of-a-program-in-mac-os-x |
| 2025-03-01 19:35:16 +0000 | <[exa]> | (wow the thread even shows `ktrace` as alternative, never seen that, cool.) |
| 2025-03-01 19:35:26 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> That's a 10 year old answer unfortunately, it's much harder to do now |
| 2025-03-01 19:35:42 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> Guest, I would run cabal with more verbose output |
| 2025-03-01 19:36:23 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> oh, you did |
| 2025-03-01 19:36:57 +0000 | k_hachig_ | k_hachig |
| 2025-03-01 19:37:05 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> maybe duckdb does something funny in its Setup.hs |
| 2025-03-01 19:37:32 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> it seems to be not a published package |
| 2025-03-01 19:37:57 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> do you mean https://hackage.haskell.org/package/duckdb-haskell ? |
| 2025-03-01 19:38:05 +0000 | <Guest1> | sorry, dtruss doesn’t work because of security protection |
| 2025-03-01 19:38:13 +0000 | gawen | (~gawen@user/gawen) (Quit: cya) |
| 2025-03-01 19:38:14 +0000 | <Guest1> | sm: yes I do |
| 2025-03-01 19:39:07 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> possibly related: https://github.com/sighingnow/duckdb-haskell/issues/1 |
| 2025-03-01 19:40:03 +0000 | <Guest1> | yes indeed… |
| 2025-03-01 19:40:11 +0000 | <geekosaur> | my butt says system protections are slowing it for some reason. (on windows almost certainly true; you need to disable antivirus scanning for some things to run at normal speed) |
| 2025-03-01 19:40:58 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I think ghcup instal lon windows warns you of this, although it might not detect wsl2 install. but this is a mac so w/e |
| 2025-03-01 19:41:06 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I haven't heard of mac SIP causing slowness.. usually it just says no |
| 2025-03-01 19:41:27 +0000 | <Guest1> | It’s the issue’s birthday, by the way ;) |
| 2025-03-01 19:42:20 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> that's a lot of cpp files. But compiling those should be fast and shouldn't hang, right |
| 2025-03-01 19:42:40 +0000 | <Guest1> | Maybe it’ll only take 10 minutes, I have an M3, which is supposed to be faster :) |
| 2025-03-01 19:43:07 +0000 | <Guest1> | Thank you, everyone. Very much. |
| 2025-03-01 19:43:22 +0000 | gawen | (~gawen@user/gawen) gawen |
| 2025-03-01 19:43:57 +0000 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee |
| 2025-03-01 19:45:13 +0000 | Digit | (~user@user/digit) Digit |
| 2025-03-01 19:48:46 +0000 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) Sgeo |
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| 2025-03-01 19:59:18 +0000 | xal | (~xal@mx1.xal.systems) (Quit: bye) |
| 2025-03-01 19:59:52 +0000 | xal | (~xal@mx1.xal.systems) xal |
| 2025-03-01 20:00:04 +0000 | caconym | (~caconym@user/caconym) (Quit: bye) |
| 2025-03-01 20:01:10 +0000 | caconym | (~caconym@user/caconym) caconym |
| 2025-03-01 20:02:37 +0000 | user_ | (~user@user/fmira) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-03-01 20:02:55 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> sustained no cpu activity sounds suspect though. |
| 2025-03-01 20:03:04 +0000 | user_ | (~user@user/fmira) fmira |
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| 2025-03-01 20:16:43 +0000 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) peterbecich |
| 2025-03-01 20:16:46 +0000 | picnoir | (~picnoir@about/aquilenet/vodoo/NinjaTrappeur) NinjaTrappeur |
| 2025-03-01 20:19:41 +0000 | Unicorn_Princess | (~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2025-03-01 20:29:21 +0000 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee |
| 2025-03-01 20:30:34 +0000 | hattckory | (~hattckory@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-48-184-145-138-167.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 2025-03-01 20:33:39 +0000 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 20:35:41 +0000 | <Guest1> | yes, indeed. That’s why I was confused in the first place, as it was my first guess (cpu or network hog) |
| 2025-03-01 20:38:23 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> if stuck, maybe download that package and compare building from the source tree |
| 2025-03-01 20:38:27 +0000 | hattckory | (~hattckory@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-48-184-145-138-167.dsl.bell.ca) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 20:38:46 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> and/or with stack |
| 2025-03-01 20:40:10 +0000 | Guest1 | (~Guest90@231.11.11.93.rev.sfr.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 20:40:51 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I tried building here.. what did you do to satisfy " #include <memory>" ? |
| 2025-03-01 20:42:28 +0000 | lxsameer | (~lxsameer@Serene/lxsameer) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 20:52:26 +0000 | Digitteknohippie | (~user@user/digit) Digit |
| 2025-03-01 20:53:36 +0000 | Digit | (~user@user/digit) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 20:53:53 +0000 | <mauke> | <memory> is a standard C++ header |
| 2025-03-01 21:04:18 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> not here.. |
| 2025-03-01 21:05:00 +0000 | simplystuart | (~simplystu@c-75-75-152-164.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 21:05:46 +0000 | simplystuart | (~simplystu@c-75-75-152-164.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 2025-03-01 21:05:55 +0000 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex |
| 2025-03-01 21:07:19 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> or rather: I just wanted to know what my fellow mac user did to avoid this when building duckdb-haskell https://termbin.com/bkgs |
| 2025-03-01 21:07:19 +0000 | synchromesh | (~john@2406:5a00:24cf:bb00:bc6d:a873:1cc2:c331) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-03-01 21:08:24 +0000 | synchromesh | (~john@2406:5a00:24cf:bb00:9992:10a:da26:56df) synchromesh |
| 2025-03-01 21:08:39 +0000 | <sm> | but they've moved on |
| 2025-03-01 21:08:49 +0000 | <sm> | and I should too. :) |
| 2025-03-01 21:10:52 +0000 | Pozyomka | (~pyon@user/pyon) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-03-01 21:10:52 +0000 | Pozyomka_ | (~pyon@user/pyon) pyon |
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| 2025-03-01 21:23:01 +0000 | simplystuart | (~simplystu@c-75-75-152-164.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 21:25:39 +0000 | hattckory | (~hattckory@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-48-184-145-138-167.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 2025-03-01 21:41:32 +0000 | <kaol> | GHC is too easy to use. I propose that every extension has to have a word in their name with a different spelling in British and US English and that we randomize which one to use for each. |
| 2025-03-01 21:42:48 +0000 | tromp | (~textual@2a02:a210:cba:8500:dc22:4f8f:98d9:547) |
| 2025-03-01 21:43:19 +0000 | <c_wraith> | that's still just memorization. better randomize the correct choice for each compilation |
| 2025-03-01 21:43:27 +0000 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) JuanDaugherty |
| 2025-03-01 21:46:01 +0000 | <mauke> | include some fake british spellings, too |
| 2025-03-01 21:46:05 +0000 | <mauke> | like motour or diametre |
| 2025-03-01 21:48:59 +0000 | JuanDaugherty | (~juan@user/JuanDaugherty) (Exeunt DS Producers) |
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| 2025-03-01 22:01:18 +0000 | <monochrom> | I propose that GHC requires you to login to a github account, a google account, a microsoft account, an apple acount, and an amazon acount; and then it sends a verification code by whatsapp. |
| 2025-03-01 22:01:29 +0000 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) alfiee |
| 2025-03-01 22:02:04 +0000 | <monochrom> | 6FA (TM) |
| 2025-03-01 22:02:23 +0000 | <enikar> | lol |
| 2025-03-01 22:05:42 +0000 | alfiee | (~alfiee@user/alfiee) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 22:06:03 +0000 | <kaol> | And delete source files on type errors. No wait, that was a real feature. |
| 2025-03-01 22:09:16 +0000 | <monochrom> | Then also delete source files on runtime errors. |
| 2025-03-01 22:09:48 +0000 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 22:09:52 +0000 | <monochrom> | <-- was discussing static typing vs dynamic typing yesterday for a class |
| 2025-03-01 22:10:16 +0000 | chamlis | (~chamlis@user/chamlis) chamlis |
| 2025-03-01 22:10:42 +0000 | <monochrom> | And why not: delete GHC itself on GHC panics. |
| 2025-03-01 22:14:21 +0000 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex |
| 2025-03-01 22:26:58 +0000 | sudden | (~cat@user/sudden) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-03-01 22:28:58 +0000 | sudden | (~cat@user/sudden) sudden |
| 2025-03-01 22:30:19 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I propose that extensions should be automatically enabled as needed, like cabal build flags |
| 2025-03-01 22:31:34 +0000 | sdegsedfhbseth | (~Guest4@2a02:3100:7f77:c000:3d6d:3f21:674f:dfef) |
| 2025-03-01 22:31:45 +0000 | sdegsedfhbseth | (~Guest4@2a02:3100:7f77:c000:3d6d:3f21:674f:dfef) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-03-01 22:31:59 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> using AI to work around ghc, libs, hls, platform issues |
| 2025-03-01 22:38:47 +0000 | <int-e> | how does that work, do you ask the AI to assure you that there are no issues? |
| 2025-03-01 22:41:40 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> Uh, ghc and all the tools call AI for help and try something different instead of just printing an error like caveman tech |
| 2025-03-01 22:43:49 +0000 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d108-173-18-100.abhsia.telus.net) machinedgod |
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| 2025-03-01 22:44:55 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I'm only half joking. I'd pay for a vs code addon that augments haskell tool error messages with more useful advice and up to date links |
| 2025-03-01 22:45:28 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> we're all doing a ton of machine work |
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