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| 2024-09-19 01:22:10 +0000 | <blober> | Based on https://hackage.haskell.org/package/HsYAML-0.2.1.4/docs/Data-YAML.html#g:3 , I don't get how |
| 2024-09-19 01:22:11 +0000 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 01:22:11 +0000 | <blober> | example = decode1 "- 1\n- 2" :: Either (Pos, String) [Int] |
| 2024-09-19 01:22:12 +0000 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 01:22:12 +0000 | <blober> | the above works, but this doesn't |
| 2024-09-19 01:22:13 +0000 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 01:22:13 +0000 | <blober> | my_example = decode1 "- foo" :: Either (Pos, String) [String] |
| 2024-09-19 01:22:14 +0000 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 01:22:15 +0000 | <blober> | ``` |
| 2024-09-19 01:22:15 +0000 | <blober> | • No instance for ‘FromYAML Char’ arising from a use of ‘decode1’ |
| 2024-09-19 01:22:16 +0000 | <blober> | ``` |
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| 2024-09-19 01:31:08 +0000 | zzz | zero |
| 2024-09-19 01:31:16 +0000 | <Axman6> | blober: Does using [Text] work? |
| 2024-09-19 01:31:50 +0000 | <Axman6> | because I think it's actually expecting to parse [[Char]] which is where that error is coming from |
| 2024-09-19 01:32:44 +0000 | <Axman6> | since there's no isntance for FromYAML for Char it doesn't even get to the point of trying to parse. |
| 2024-09-19 01:33:42 +0000 | dhruvasagar | (~dhruvasag@49.207.204.156) |
| 2024-09-19 01:33:44 +0000 | <blober> | yes, you were correct |
| 2024-09-19 01:38:20 +0000 | <blober> | can you preserve comments when dumping yaml? I see there was some work in https://github.com/haskell-hvr/HsYAML/pull/24 but not sure how to use it |
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| 2024-09-19 01:51:41 +0000 | <Axman6> | I'm not familiar with the library, but it looks like support for comments is in the released version. What do you mean when you say dumping yaml? |
| 2024-09-19 01:53:17 +0000 | <blober> | like doing roundtrip and inserting a key |
| 2024-09-19 01:54:40 +0000 | <Axman6> | I have a feeling you might be able to do it using the event based interface but I can't see how to do it using the Node type |
| 2024-09-19 01:54:59 +0000 | <blober> | I see |
| 2024-09-19 01:58:38 +0000 | <Axman6> | how you use that to change specific parts of the structure I'm not sure |
| 2024-09-19 01:58:47 +0000 | dhruvasagar | (~dhruvasag@49.207.204.156) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 01:59:17 +0000 | <Axman6> | but I'd start here: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/HsYAML-0.2.1.4/docs/Data-YAML-Event.html#g:1 |
| 2024-09-19 02:01:11 +0000 | <blober> | TY |
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| 2024-09-19 11:54:05 +0000 | <dminuoso> | The biggest price of dependent types is the lack of a rich ecosystem of libraries and tools for the same languages. |
| 2024-09-19 11:54:51 +0000 | <dminuoso> | It's just a sad reality that when you want to solve problem XYZ, it's often not worth the perceived benefit of some additional safety over the convenience of not having to write 90% of the code required for the solution. |
| 2024-09-19 11:54:56 +0000 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) |
| 2024-09-19 11:55:30 +0000 | <dminuoso> | In practice, a rich library ecosystem beats a good language. |
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| 2024-09-19 12:22:23 +0000 | ChanServ | +o litharge |
| 2024-09-19 12:22:24 +0000 | litharge | -bo *!*@46.56.199.104 litharge |
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| 2024-09-19 12:36:02 +0000 | <L29Ah> | gotta create a good libraries foundation |
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| 2024-09-19 13:12:50 +0000 | <kuribas> | dminuoso: That's not the price of dependent types, it's the price of anything new. |
| 2024-09-19 13:13:19 +0000 | <kuribas> | At one point it was like this for haskell, or lazy functional languages. |
| 2024-09-19 13:19:48 +0000 | <[exa]> | basically for any "practical" language |
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| 2024-09-19 13:22:46 +0000 | ystael | (~ystael@user/ystael) |
| 2024-09-19 13:34:42 +0000 | <cheater> | if we're gonna do an overhaul of the haskell ecosystem we should have: |
| 2024-09-19 13:36:14 +0000 | <cheater> | 1. linear or affine types, controllable memory layout, copy counting, and the ability for multiple runtimes to use the same memory objects |
| 2024-09-19 13:36:33 +0000 | ubert | (~Thunderbi@2001:871:263:a33:ce4c:87cf:207:8819) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 13:36:42 +0000 | <cheater> | 2. some other stuff i was going to say but i forgot |
| 2024-09-19 13:37:13 +0000 | <mauke> | 3 a partridge in a pear tree |
| 2024-09-19 13:37:17 +0000 | <cheater> | 3. a type system for tracking the complexity of algorithms |
| 2024-09-19 13:39:01 +0000 | mreh | (~matthew@host86-146-25-125.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) |
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| 2024-09-19 14:00:57 +0000 | <probie> | Exploring linear types in Haskell is fun. I don't think they should be a base for optimisation. At that point, just make a new language |
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| 2024-09-19 14:04:14 +0000 | <probie> | Haskell is a strongly typed functional language with laziness and typeclasses. Any attempt to move away from any part of that is going to get a lot of flak from certain parts of the community |
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| 2024-09-19 14:32:49 +0000 | <kuribas> | Haskell already has linear types |
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| 2024-09-19 14:44:11 +0000 | rvalue- | rvalue |
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| 2024-09-19 14:47:20 +0000 | <kuribas> | dminuoso: in that sense Python would be the better language, but I am still convinced python is a bad language for any large projects, that need to be stable and long running. |
| 2024-09-19 14:47:51 +0000 | athan | (~athan@2600:382:1f1b:231a:7a65:ae9e:1d60:7f0d) |
| 2024-09-19 14:47:56 +0000 | dhruvasagar | (~dhruvasag@49.207.204.156) |
| 2024-09-19 14:47:59 +0000 | <kuribas> | dminuoso: That's where you get the nonsense to run in kubernetes where you can scale and restart at will. |
| 2024-09-19 14:49:00 +0000 | <kaol> | Is it good for small projects either? |
| 2024-09-19 14:49:17 +0000 | <kuribas> | For one of scripts. For a small POC of a calculation. |
| 2024-09-19 14:49:50 +0000 | <kuribas> | Where it's too big for bash, but not big enough for java. |
| 2024-09-19 14:50:31 +0000 | <mari-estel> | django is quite powerful, also data crunching with python is neat |
| 2024-09-19 14:51:11 +0000 | <kuribas> | It is neat, until you have to maintain a project that has been written by researchers, and made into a product just because they could. |
| 2024-09-19 14:51:48 +0000 | <mari-estel> | just because that's the industry, i don't see researchers striving to ship it |
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| 2024-09-19 15:02:47 +0000 | <kuribas> | sure, it's managers pushing to ship research level code. |
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| 2024-09-19 15:58:21 +0000 | <dmj`> | thesisware |
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| 2024-09-19 16:22:43 +0000 | <cheater> | why are we suddenly talking about django? |
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| 2024-09-19 16:35:47 +0000 | <srazkvt> | hey, a little question, with cabal, can i depend on a package that is just on my drive ? i have a library i haven't yet released because i'm still figuring out a proper api for it, but i want something a little more complex than just an example to actually test it out |
| 2024-09-19 16:36:04 +0000 | <srazkvt> | or should i just make it an example for now ? |
| 2024-09-19 16:38:49 +0000 | <sclv> | you can use a cabal.project file to point to that package and have something else depend on it |
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| 2024-09-19 18:18:41 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | srazkvt: more precisely: put "packages: . path/to/your/example" in a `cabal.project` file |
| 2024-09-19 18:18:55 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | then the directory with that cabal.project file is now a "project" that contains two packages |
| 2024-09-19 18:19:25 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | those packages will override hackage, so if you then "just" depend on the other as usual, cabal will find it |
| 2024-09-19 18:20:17 +0000 | <srazkvt> | huh |
| 2024-09-19 18:20:19 +0000 | <srazkvt> | interesting |
| 2024-09-19 18:20:40 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | in particular, if you e.g. want to locally patch a hackage package, say 'containers', then you can make a local git clone of 'containers'. Then whenever you put that clone in a cabal.project, the other packages in that "project" will use the local version of 'containers' |
| 2024-09-19 18:21:02 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | this is useful if you have a number of related packages that you want to develop together, that all also exist on hackage |
| 2024-09-19 18:21:08 +0000 | <srazkvt> | i ended up making a local noindex cabal repository and manually sdist but that will probably be much better |
| 2024-09-19 18:21:17 +0000 | <srazkvt> | yeah im in the second case |
| 2024-09-19 18:21:26 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | put them all in a directory, put a cabal.project file in there that lists all of them, and then `cabal build` will use the local stuff |
| 2024-09-19 18:22:08 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | srazkvt: https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/latest/cabal-project-description-file.html |
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| 2024-09-19 18:23:14 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | cabal.project files don't get uploaded to hackage, they're a local-only thing |
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| 2024-09-19 19:10:07 +0000 | <mreh> | hmm, why might stack be hanging... |
| 2024-09-19 19:10:23 +0000 | rvalue- | rvalue |
| 2024-09-19 19:12:18 +0000 | <mreh> | this is an idle process hanging, rather than taking a long time to compile hang |
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| 2024-09-19 19:19:47 +0000 | <mreh> | -cabal-verbosity shows nothing at all... so odd |
| 2024-09-19 19:20:25 +0000 | athan | (~athan@syn-098-153-145-140.biz.spectrum.com) |
| 2024-09-19 19:24:19 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | mreh: what OS are you on? If linux, try 'strace <your stack command>' |
| 2024-09-19 19:24:47 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | shows the system calls that it does, and crucially it outputs something when the call _started_ as well as when it ends |
| 2024-09-19 19:25:10 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | iirc dtrace can do the same on macos |
| 2024-09-19 19:25:31 +0000 | Smiles | (uid551636@id-551636.lymington.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) |
| 2024-09-19 19:27:28 +0000 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) |
| 2024-09-19 19:28:07 +0000 | <mreh> | The last line is "futex(0x7fff635c7af4, FUTEX_WAIT_PRI" but the rest is cut off. Deadlocked on something maybe? |
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| 2024-09-19 19:41:54 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | yeah, futex is a mutex operation |
| 2024-09-19 19:42:21 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | if you show the whole output, perhaps someone can see something |
| 2024-09-19 19:42:42 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | (strace -o log <...>) |
| 2024-09-19 19:44:28 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | mreh: it could also be that stack is waiting on some child process to finish that never finishes. Are there any live child processes when stack hangs? |
| 2024-09-19 19:44:51 +0000 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) () |
| 2024-09-19 19:45:07 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | (pstree $(pgrep stack)) |
| 2024-09-19 19:46:44 +0000 | <monochrom> | Haha thanks for the pstree tip. I have always only known htop. |
| 2024-09-19 19:47:37 +0000 | misterfish | (~misterfis@87.215.131.102) |
| 2024-09-19 19:47:49 +0000 | <mreh> | no child processes |
| 2024-09-19 19:47:49 +0000 | Blasius | (~Blasius@2.219.56.221) |
| 2024-09-19 19:49:23 +0000 | <mreh> | it's only when I add this once package `hsnoise` |
| 2024-09-19 19:49:30 +0000 | target_i | (~target_i@user/target-i/x-6023099) |
| 2024-09-19 19:49:35 +0000 | <mreh> | so maybe that's a clue |
| 2024-09-19 19:49:52 +0000 | <mreh> | it's not in the stackage snapshot I'm using |
| 2024-09-19 19:50:35 +0000 | <mreh> | who wants 4.5k lines of strace output? |
| 2024-09-19 19:52:24 +0000 | misterfish | (~misterfis@87.215.131.102) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 19:53:54 +0000 | <mreh> | I think that might be it for the day anyway... |
| 2024-09-19 19:54:48 +0000 | <geekosaur> | if a futex op is incomplete that way, it usually means the futex is blocked waiting for the call to finish |
| 2024-09-19 19:58:37 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | monochrom: I always use htop but I didn't want to assume htop presence here :p |
| 2024-09-19 19:58:59 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | mreh: a pastebin is happy to receive 4.5k lines of strace output |
| 2024-09-19 19:59:19 +0000 | <geekosaur> | well, some of them are |
| 2024-09-19 19:59:26 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | geekosaur: indeed, but mutexes are used too generally for that to be much of a clue :) |
| 2024-09-19 19:59:29 +0000 | <mreh> | @where paste |
| 2024-09-19 19:59:29 +0000 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 2024-09-19 19:59:38 +0000 | <mreh> | lol |
| 2024-09-19 20:00:01 +0000 | tomsmeding | whistles |
| 2024-09-19 20:00:06 +0000 | <geekosaur> | yeh, my response was basically "speak for yourself" 😛 |
| 2024-09-19 20:02:31 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | hm, that pastebin's max paste size may well be on the low side for this |
| 2024-09-19 20:02:46 +0000 | <tomsmeding> | curl --data-binary @the/path/to/the/log/file https://tomsmeding.com/gooi/stracelog |
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| 2024-09-19 20:51:47 +0000 | tritlo_ | tritlo |
| 2024-09-19 20:55:15 +0000 | <tritlo> | Hey all, is `ghc-lib-parser-9.10.1.20240511` failing to build for anyone else? It was working on our CI fine earlier today, but now I'm getting a weird build error (on 9.6.6) |
| 2024-09-19 20:56:51 +0000 | lxsameer | (~lxsameer@Serene/lxsameer) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 20:57:29 +0000 | chromo | (~chromo@210.185.108.225) |
| 2024-09-19 21:00:31 +0000 | <geekosaur> | what's the error? |
| 2024-09-19 21:00:33 +0000 | <geekosaur> | @where paste |
| 2024-09-19 21:00:33 +0000 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 2024-09-19 21:02:12 +0000 | michalz | (~michalz@185.246.207.218) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-09-19 21:03:41 +0000 | <tritlo> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/GulpmqNz |
| 2024-09-19 21:04:13 +0000 | <tritlo> | happens both on github CI and my local computer |
| 2024-09-19 21:04:25 +0000 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d50-99-47-73.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 2024-09-19 21:05:40 +0000 | <tritlo> | (specifically when trying to install fourmolu) |
| 2024-09-19 21:06:43 +0000 | chromo | (~chromo@210.185.108.225) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 21:07:20 +0000 | <geekosaur> | the indentation there looks kinda skeevy to me |
| 2024-09-19 21:08:17 +0000 | <tritlo> | It's weird that it was working earlier today, but then broke an hour or two ago |
| 2024-09-19 21:08:54 +0000 | <tritlo> | I think this file is autogenerated from the parser, so there might be something going on there. But I don't see how that would have changed now |
| 2024-09-19 21:09:02 +0000 | <geekosaur> | did you happen to do a `cabal update`? that looks like `happy`-generated code, and I note that `happy-2.0` was just released |
| 2024-09-19 21:09:20 +0000 | <geekosaur> | like, earlier today |
| 2024-09-19 21:10:10 +0000 | <tritlo> | hmm, yes, the CI does run cabal update |
| 2024-09-19 21:10:11 +0000 | <geekosaur> | my local build just succeeded, with `happy-1.20.1.1` |
| 2024-09-19 21:10:31 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> This is why stackage was invented |
| 2024-09-19 21:10:45 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> * created |
| 2024-09-19 21:10:55 +0000 | <geekosaur> | people are supposed to set bounds |
| 2024-09-19 21:10:58 +0000 | <mauke> | discovered |
| 2024-09-19 21:11:04 +0000 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-09-19 21:11:23 +0000 | <mauke> | my happiness knows no bounds |
| 2024-09-19 21:11:35 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> 😂 |
| 2024-09-19 21:12:26 +0000 | <geekosaur> | but actually I don't think either one of those will help because both are for libraries and happy's an executable |
| 2024-09-19 21:12:51 +0000 | <geekosaur> | executable version handling's a hack in the Haskell ecosystem |
| 2024-09-19 21:13:43 +0000 | <mauke> | happy 2: manic |
| 2024-09-19 21:13:45 +0000 | <mauke> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzVPelmFKPk |
| 2024-09-19 21:16:43 +0000 | misterfish | (~misterfis@87.215.131.102) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 21:18:26 +0000 | <tritlo> | Yeah seems like there's no version bound on `happy` in the executable |
| 2024-09-19 21:18:38 +0000 | <geekosaur> | and sure enough, with happy-2.0 I get that error. go file a bug against happy, and tell the haskell-lib-parser folks (or maybe a hackage trustee) that haskell-lib-parser needs a constraint added (I think to build-tool-depends) |
| 2024-09-19 21:19:49 +0000 | chromo | (~chromo@210.185.108.225) |
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| 2024-09-19 21:22:29 +0000 | misterfish | (~misterfis@87.215.131.102) |
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| 2024-09-19 21:26:21 +0000 | <glguy> | You can set bounds on your build-tools |
| 2024-09-19 21:28:05 +0000 | <tritlo> | Already done so :) |
| 2024-09-19 21:28:19 +0000 | <geekosaur> | already commented on 😛 |
| 2024-09-19 21:28:41 +0000 | <glguy> | already already |
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| 2024-09-19 21:36:06 +0000 | <mauke> | iamiam cedant tristia |
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| 2024-09-19 21:48:07 +0000 | <tritlo> | Any way I can force cabal to select `happy` 1.20.1.1? I can get a build plan with `happy` 1.19 if I do `--prefer-oldest`, but I'd rather select only the one. `--constraint "happy == 1.20.1.1"` doesn't seem to cut it |
| 2024-09-19 21:49:00 +0000 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2024-09-19 22:00:51 +0000 | <geekosaur> | that constraint only applies to libraries, not executables. |
| 2024-09-19 22:02:03 +0000 | <geekosaur> | unfortunately, it doesn't look like '--build-tool-depends' is supported on the command line. if you can use a cabal.project, try https://paste.tomsmeding.com/W3BRWzp1 |
| 2024-09-19 22:03:06 +0000 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) |
| 2024-09-19 22:03:23 +0000 | <tritlo> | Ah, it's in a CI so can't change the `cabal.project`. Thanks anyway, I'll use the `--prefer-oldest` until the issue is resolved |
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| 2024-09-19 22:08:32 +0000 | <geekosaur> | fwiw I just filed a cabal feature request |
| 2024-09-19 22:08:41 +0000 | <geekosaur> | not that that will help now |
| 2024-09-19 22:09:10 +0000 | <geekosaur> | oh, you could also put that in cabal.project.local, which is not intended to be in CI |
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