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| 2024-07-14 06:46:37 +0200 | <dibblego> | what is the process for taking over and updating a hackage package these days? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/pandoc-lens |
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| 2024-07-14 07:05:05 +0200 | <probie> | If you just want to do some minor version bumping (e.g. increase the upper bound of base), any of the hackage trustees can do that. If you actually want to take over the package, start by contacting the original author. |
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| 2024-07-14 07:06:01 +0200 | <dibblego> | ok cheers |
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| 2024-07-14 08:59:51 +0200 | <davean> | dibblego: https://wiki.haskell.org/Taking_over_a_package |
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| 2024-07-14 10:18:43 +0200 | <Leary> | So I moved my internals from the other-modules of my library to the exposed-modules of the 'internals' sublibrary it now depends upon, but cabal is complaining: "[-Wmissing-home-modules] These modules are needed for compilation but not listed in your .cabal file's other-modules" |
| 2024-07-14 10:18:57 +0200 | <Leary> | Do I really have to list them twice? Seems rather redundant. |
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| 2024-07-14 10:22:37 +0200 | <c_wraith> | that sounds like the sources might still be in the original locations, and it's finding them instead of looking in your sublibrary |
| 2024-07-14 10:23:12 +0200 | <Leary> | Oh, they can't just share source dirs? I see. |
| 2024-07-14 10:23:25 +0200 | <Leary> | I hadn't bothered to separate them. |
| 2024-07-14 10:23:38 +0200 | <c_wraith> | GHC looks for modules in the current package before looking in other packages. |
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| 2024-07-14 10:26:23 +0200 | <Leary> | Cabal should probably warn when sub/libraries have the same hs-source-dirs... |
| 2024-07-14 10:33:23 +0200 | <dibblego> | davean: thanks |
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| 2024-07-14 15:16:24 +0200 | svipal | melodev |
| 2024-07-14 15:17:40 +0200 | <melodev> | i'm trying out gi-gtk and it builds nicely... but i'm not exactly sure how to track any custom state. It doesn't seem i'm supposed to make my own IsApplication datatype, maybe i'm supposed to put something in the app.run options, but i don't know where the doc for that is either ,haha |
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| 2024-07-14 15:21:34 +0200 | AlexNoo_ | AlexNoo |
| 2024-07-14 15:27:51 +0200 | <melodev> | (it may seem strange that i'm saying it builds nicely as the positive, but my unfortunate experience as a returning haskeller wanting to try making a GUI app with 9.10, only monomer & gi-gtk actually build properly, & only gi-gtk actually makes use of stuff i wanted to try out (overloaded labels)) |
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| 2024-07-14 15:35:41 +0200 | <Leary> | melodev: It's been years since I used it, but I recall gi-gtk being pretty much raw bindings---it's a /direct/ translation of a library written for some C-like language, where all state is tracked by mutable variables. |
| 2024-07-14 15:36:23 +0200 | <Leary> | The Haskell equivalent is mutable references (IORef, MVar, etc), possibly in ReaderT over IO. |
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| 2024-07-14 15:41:16 +0200 | <melodev> | i don't mind imperative style and using IORefs, i'm not sure how to actually have them & the application loop running at the same time ? like i'm not sure how to have them being accessible in the application's whole context if i just declare them beforehand |
| 2024-07-14 15:41:35 +0200 | <melodev> | granted i'm also not familiar at all with GTK which probably doesn't help |
| 2024-07-14 15:41:59 +0200 | leah2 | (~leah@vuxu.org) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2024-07-14 15:42:06 +0200 | <melodev> | but every single example i've seen so far has been stateless which is tickling me a little bit |
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| 2024-07-14 15:50:25 +0200 | <Leary> | If you do `main = do { r <- newIORef x; ... }`, then `r` effectively /is/ in scope for your entire application; it's just a matter of passing it down to the function that need it. |
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| 2024-07-14 16:01:48 +0200 | <melodev> | it's precisely the passing things down that is giving me trouble |
| 2024-07-14 16:01:50 +0200 | jasper | jasperr |
| 2024-07-14 16:03:35 +0200 | <Leary> | Well, ReaderT essentially does it for you. You just have to lift/unlift IO instead. |
| 2024-07-14 16:04:17 +0200 | <jasperr> | hello. I need a help with a quick and dirty fix, need to convert String that has UTF8 content to ISO-8859-1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:05:53 +0200 | <mauke> | what about characters that can't be represented? |
| 2024-07-14 16:06:05 +0200 | <jasperr> | found Data.String.UTF8Decoding, but that seems to stip extended ASCII characters |
| 2024-07-14 16:06:12 +0200 | <jasperr> | á. é, í etc. |
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| 2024-07-14 16:08:35 +0200 | <jasperr> | the ones that are html-encoded like á or ö |
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| 2024-07-14 16:20:29 +0200 | <jasperr> | I get many "at input position xxx: InvalidLaterByte 1" errors back from Data.String.UTF8Decoding.DecodeUtf8 |
| 2024-07-14 16:21:16 +0200 | <jasperr> | befiore my attempt if I redirected stdout to file, iconv command made the conversion correctly... |
| 2024-07-14 16:23:31 +0200 | leah2 | (~leah@vuxu.org) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2024-07-14 16:26:46 +0200 | <mauke> | sounds like you don't have UTF-8 then |
| 2024-07-14 16:27:11 +0200 | <mauke> | wait, you said String. how would even get a String with UTF-8 in it? |
| 2024-07-14 16:27:51 +0200 | jasperr | (~jasper@89-186-96-155.pool.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2024-07-14 16:29:59 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | yeah there seem to be multiple inconsistent things here :p |
| 2024-07-14 16:30:32 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | oh they left |
| 2024-07-14 16:36:12 +0200 | rosco | (~rosco@175.136.155.137) |
| 2024-07-14 16:37:04 +0200 | jasperr | (~jasperr@89-186-96-155.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 2024-07-14 16:37:26 +0200 | <EvanR> | extended ascii html encoded utf-8 |
| 2024-07-14 16:37:52 +0200 | <EvanR> | pretty standard |
| 2024-07-14 16:38:14 +0200 | <jasperr> | sorry, my network connection had an issue... I wonder if I missed any reply wrt. quick and dirty fix to convert String of UTF8 content to iso-8859-1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:38:26 +0200 | <EvanR> | String isn't UTF8 |
| 2024-07-14 16:38:43 +0200 | <EvanR> | maybe you are using UTF8 to mean "unicode text", rather than the encoding scheme UTF-8 |
| 2024-07-14 16:38:47 +0200 | <jasperr> | html encoding was used by me to make sure that there is no issue with irc clients |
| 2024-07-14 16:39:20 +0200 | <jasperr> | I do not have html encoding in my original String, just utf8, and I need iso-8859-1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:39:39 +0200 | <mauke> | how did you get UTF-8 in a String? |
| 2024-07-14 16:39:39 +0200 | <EvanR> | if you have String then you almost certainly don't have UTF-8 |
| 2024-07-14 16:39:42 +0200 | <mauke> | that part makes no sense |
| 2024-07-14 16:39:50 +0200 | CrunchyFlakes | (~CrunchyFl@146.52.130.128) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-07-14 16:41:27 +0200 | <mauke> | encoding goes from text to bytes; decoding goes from bytes to text |
| 2024-07-14 16:41:30 +0200 | <mauke> | String stores text |
| 2024-07-14 16:41:37 +0200 | <jasperr> | well, I have Strings and at the end it is UTF-8. actually this is a compiler, I started to write decades ago |
| 2024-07-14 16:41:39 +0200 | <mauke> | utf-8 and latin-1 are encodings and live in the "bytes" part |
| 2024-07-14 16:41:46 +0200 | <EvanR> | there's a package called "encoding" on hackage which includes a codec for iso-8859-1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:41:58 +0200 | <mauke> | jasperr: that still makes no sense |
| 2024-07-14 16:42:19 +0200 | CrunchyFlakes | (~CrunchyFl@ip92348280.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 2024-07-14 16:42:28 +0200 | <jasperr> | I know the correct way to develop anew would be using ByteString |
| 2024-07-14 16:42:40 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | type String = [Char] |
| 2024-07-14 16:42:44 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | a Char is essentially an Int |
| 2024-07-14 16:42:48 +0200 | <jasperr> | but I do not want to completely rewrite everything |
| 2024-07-14 16:42:52 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | a Char contains a whole unicode codepoint |
| 2024-07-14 16:43:02 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | hence a String does not have an "encoding" -- it's literally a list of unicode code points |
| 2024-07-14 16:43:15 +0200 | <jasperr> | tomsmeding: that's why I told it has UTF-8 content |
| 2024-07-14 16:43:23 +0200 | <mauke> | what |
| 2024-07-14 16:43:26 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | you can _encode_ a String to UTF8 by encoding each of the Chars in there to 1, 2, 3 or 4 bytes |
| 2024-07-14 16:43:28 +0200 | <EvanR> | String is unencoded, there's no encoding |
| 2024-07-14 16:43:37 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | you can also _encode_ it to some other representation, e.g. UTF16 or UTF32 |
| 2024-07-14 16:43:51 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | a String itself does not yet have an encoding |
| 2024-07-14 16:44:07 +0200 | leah2 | (~leah@vuxu.org) |
| 2024-07-14 16:44:16 +0200 | <EvanR> | "my String has UTF-8 content" no it doesn't. Alternatively, you mean to say there's non-ascii text in there |
| 2024-07-14 16:44:17 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | UTF8 is a particular way to represent unicode codepoints as bytes |
| 2024-07-14 16:44:37 +0200 | <mauke> | you could encode a String as utf-8, then decode those bytes as latin-1. that's the only thing I can think of that would kind of fit "utf-8 in a String" |
| 2024-07-14 16:44:44 +0200 | <jasperr> | the string is a result of some IO operations, and the input file is UTF-8 encoded |
| 2024-07-14 16:44:56 +0200 | <EvanR> | which IO operation |
| 2024-07-14 16:44:56 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | "unicode" and "UTF8" are very different things, and while some people like to confuse them, the distinction becomes very important when talking about changing encodings |
| 2024-07-14 16:45:29 +0200 | <jasperr> | actually, just readFile at the end |
| 2024-07-14 16:45:35 +0200 | <mauke> | using which encoding? |
| 2024-07-14 16:45:48 +0200 | <EvanR> | prelude readFile? |
| 2024-07-14 16:45:58 +0200 | <EvanR> | it decodes the file using the locale |
| 2024-07-14 16:46:07 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | it's possible that readFile parsed some other encoding that UTF8 depending on the environment, but however it is, it _produced_ a String that does not have an encoding |
| 2024-07-14 16:46:41 +0200 | <jasperr> | tomsmeding: the input is correct UTF8, and yes, Prelude.readFile provides String |
| 2024-07-14 16:46:47 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % "あ" |
| 2024-07-14 16:46:47 +0200 | <yahb2> | "\12354" |
| 2024-07-14 16:46:51 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % length "あ" |
| 2024-07-14 16:46:51 +0200 | <yahb2> | 1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:46:55 +0200 | <EvanR> | the file might have UTF-8 encoding but the String you get doesn't |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:05 +0200 | <mauke> | > System.IO.localeEncoding |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:06 +0200 | <lambdabot> | error: |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:06 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Not in scope: ‘System.IO.localeEncoding’ |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:06 +0200 | <lambdabot> | No module named ‘System.IO’ is imported. |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:09 +0200 | <mauke> | aw |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:11 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | that's a String with 1 Char in it; the Char has value 12354 |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:17 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % System.IO.localeEncoding |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:17 +0200 | <yahb2> | UTF-8 |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:43 +0200 | <jasperr> | EvanR: yep, it is not the String that has the encoding, just the content of the string complies with UTF-8 |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:43 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | now if you would encode "あ" as UTF8, you'd get 3 bytes: 0xE3, 0x81, 0x82 |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:52 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | the content of the string is unicode |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:55 +0200 | <EvanR> | the content of the file you mean |
| 2024-07-14 16:47:57 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | which you could _encode_ as UTF-8 |
| 2024-07-14 16:48:17 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | you can also try to encode it as ISO-8859-1, but there will be a whole lot of unrepresentable characters that way |
| 2024-07-14 16:48:21 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | s/characters/codepoints/ |
| 2024-07-14 16:48:32 +0200 | <mauke> | jasperr: what does that mean? |
| 2024-07-14 16:48:39 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | what you want is not UTF8 -> ISO-8859-1, you want String -> ISO-8859-1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:48:43 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | that's something very different |
| 2024-07-14 16:48:44 +0200 | <jasperr> | I simply would like a String, which I output *by Prelude.putStrLn for example, it will be ISO-latin compliant |
| 2024-07-14 16:49:00 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | do you want to output Latin-1 bytes on stdout? |
| 2024-07-14 16:49:02 +0200 | <jasperr> | and yes, that is dirty a bit, but I am looking for a quick and dirty fix |
| 2024-07-14 16:49:08 +0200 | <mauke> | jasperr: hSetEncoding on the output handle |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:11 +0200 | <EvanR> | :t hSetEncoding latin1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:13 +0200 | <lambdabot> | error: |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:13 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Variable not in scope: hSetEncoding :: t0 -> t |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:13 +0200 | <lambdabot> | error: Variable not in scope: latin1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:31 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % :t \h -> System.IO.hSetEncoding h System.IO.latin1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:31 +0200 | <yahb2> | \h -> System.IO.hSetEncoding h System.IO.latin1 ; :: GHC.IO.Handle.Types.Handle -> IO () |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:47 +0200 | <mauke> | @let import System.IO |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:48 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Defined. |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:54 +0200 | <mauke> | :t hSetEncoding latin1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:55 +0200 | <lambdabot> | error: |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:55 +0200 | <lambdabot> | • Couldn't match expected type ‘Handle’ |
| 2024-07-14 16:50:55 +0200 | <lambdabot> | with actual type ‘TextEncoding’ |
| 2024-07-14 16:51:01 +0200 | <mauke> | good :-) |
| 2024-07-14 16:51:01 +0200 | <EvanR> | I got the arguments wrong |
| 2024-07-14 16:51:15 +0200 | <EvanR> | :t flip hSetEncoding latin1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:51:16 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Handle -> IO () |
| 2024-07-14 16:52:39 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | jasperr: you could also see if the 'text-latin1' package still compiles, and if it does, if '\str -> Data.ByteString.pack <$> mapM Text.Latin1.maybeLatin1 str' does what you want |
| 2024-07-14 16:52:54 +0200 | <jasperr> | I guess hsetEncoding stdout latin1 is the missing idea (assuming correct import command, of course ) |
| 2024-07-14 16:53:20 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | is it easy to explain why you want to output in latin1 encoding on stdout? |
| 2024-07-14 16:53:22 +0200 | <EvanR> | a solution to a problem not involving utf-8 in any way xD |
| 2024-07-14 16:53:38 +0200 | <jasperr> | because there is a legacy program i would like to feed |
| 2024-07-14 16:53:52 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | I see |
| 2024-07-14 16:54:08 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | and your stdout is connected to its stdin via a pipe |
| 2024-07-14 16:54:13 +0200 | <jasperr> | I have a compiler for music notation and I would like to provide my output for Mup (see arkkra.com). as a new backend |
| 2024-07-14 16:54:54 +0200 | <jasperr> | and that "new" backend supports ISO-latin only, plus their own way of encoding anything else... |
| 2024-07-14 16:55:19 +0200 | <mauke> | "ISO-latin" doesn't actually mean anything, btw |
| 2024-07-14 16:55:20 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | if the intent is to write to a file instead of stdout, it's probably better to explictly write to a file in Haskell and set the encoding on that file handle instead |
| 2024-07-14 16:55:30 +0200 | <jasperr> | actually ISO-8859-1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:55:51 +0200 | <jasperr> | no, my intent is stdout, I might trick in bach with pipes |
| 2024-07-14 16:55:51 +0200 | <mauke> | good, that's latin-1 |
| 2024-07-14 16:56:00 +0200 | <jasperr> | bash |
| 2024-07-14 16:56:02 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | because terminals, other programs, etc. are going to be quite surprised if a program outputs invalid UTF-8 (and latin1-encoded text typically doesn't parse as UTF-8) |
| 2024-07-14 16:56:51 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | you're going to see ? marks etc. if you just run your program in a terminal without connecting up your stdout with Mup :) |
| 2024-07-14 16:57:17 +0200 | Teacup | (~teacup@user/teacup) (Server closed connection) |
| 2024-07-14 16:57:18 +0200 | <jasperr> | mup is writing a postscript output :) |
| 2024-07-14 16:57:22 +0200 | <mauke> | (but there's also e.g. latin-1 == ISO-8859-9, latin-7 == ISO-8859-13, etc) |
| 2024-07-14 16:57:28 +0200 | Teacup | (~teacup@user/teacup) |
| 2024-07-14 16:57:34 +0200 | <mauke> | s/latin-1/latin-5 |
| 2024-07-14 16:58:38 +0200 | <EvanR> | who came up with this numbering scheme damn |
| 2024-07-14 16:59:05 +0200 | <jasperr> | I am especially concerned with Hungarian characters, we are lucky with latin2, only the hungarumlaut for o becomes a tilde and for u becomes a circumflex... but for those I will just use Prelude.replace to put Mup's own encoding :) |
| 2024-07-14 16:59:33 +0200 | <jasperr> | EvanR now that is pretty "for historical reasons" :) |
| 2024-07-14 16:59:48 +0200 | <mauke> | ő? |
| 2024-07-14 17:00:17 +0200 | <jasperr> | yep, ő and ű (and Ő and Ű of course) |
| 2024-07-14 17:01:09 +0200 | <jasperr> | and I just dont want an ugly map of replacements for all the other latin-2 characters |
| 2024-07-14 17:03:05 +0200 | <EvanR> | you're trying to reencoding something representable in latin-2 as latin-1 ? |
| 2024-07-14 17:04:19 +0200 | <jasperr> | something like that but that part is trivial |
| 2024-07-14 17:04:31 +0200 | <EvanR> | it is? |
| 2024-07-14 17:05:07 +0200 | cpressey | (~weechat@176.254.71.203) |
| 2024-07-14 17:05:43 +0200 | <jasperr> | only four characters are problematic, and there I need to use a special escaped sequence like "\(ohungarumlaut)" that is interpreted by the program I want to compile the input for |
| 2024-07-14 17:06:05 +0200 | <EvanR> | yeesh |
| 2024-07-14 17:06:27 +0200 | <EvanR> | somebody should come up with one universal character set once and for all |
| 2024-07-14 17:06:52 +0200 | <c_wraith> | we could call it unichar |
| 2024-07-14 17:07:47 +0200 | <jasperr> | well, poststcipt glyph names was one good old first shot, far far before unicode and utf8 |
| 2024-07-14 17:08:16 +0200 | <jasperr> | and now for dealing wiht hystorical reasons this is a mix of all 3 a bit for me :) |
| 2024-07-14 17:10:10 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | is there not some table mapping unicode codepoints to postscript escapes |
| 2024-07-14 17:10:22 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | allowing you to output pure-ascii |
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| 2024-07-14 17:15:59 +0200 | <jasperr> | hSetEncoding stdout latin1 has fixed my problem, it works :) |
| 2024-07-14 17:17:49 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | yay |
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| 2024-07-14 17:43:36 +0200 | <EvanR> | latin-1 not to be confused with latin-1 (pronounced "latin minus 1") |
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| 2024-07-14 17:46:33 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | that would be latin−1 |
| 2024-07-14 17:47:05 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | (try https://tomsmeding.com/unicode if you're confused) |
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| 2024-07-14 18:41:50 +0200 | <edwardk> | latin minus the one character you are looking for? |
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| 2024-07-14 20:07:03 +0200 | CrunchyFlakes | (~CrunchyFl@ip92348280.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 2024-07-14 20:09:05 +0200 | ddellacosta | (~ddellacos@ool-44c73d29.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 2024-07-14 20:09:11 +0200 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2024-07-14 20:10:36 +0200 | danse-nr3 | is amazed yet once at the amount of simplification a pure function's signature (not in a Reader) provides when analysing code |
| 2024-07-14 20:10:49 +0200 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a05:5800:2b3:d800:e6b9:7aff:fe80:3d03) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) |
| 2024-07-14 20:11:56 +0200 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) |
| 2024-07-14 20:12:15 +0200 | raehik | (~raehik@rdng-25-b2-v4wan-169990-cust1344.vm39.cable.virginm.net) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2024-07-14 20:23:31 +0200 | Lord_of_Life | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
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| 2024-07-14 20:24:53 +0200 | Lord_of_Life_ | Lord_of_Life |
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| 2024-07-14 20:31:59 +0200 | danse-nr3 | (~danse-nr3@151.57.205.20) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2024-07-14 20:37:28 +0200 | dsrt^ | (~cd@c-98-242-74-66.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
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| 2024-07-14 20:45:54 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) |
| 2024-07-14 20:51:26 +0200 | sm2n | (ae95cb1267@user/sm2n) (Server closed connection) |
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| 2024-07-14 20:51:40 +0200 | raehik | (~raehik@rdng-25-b2-v4wan-169990-cust1344.vm39.cable.virginm.net) |
| 2024-07-14 21:02:17 +0200 | JoelMcCracken | (5ea8252fbb@2a03:6000:1812:100::10e3) (Server closed connection) |
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| 2024-07-14 21:05:23 +0200 | orcus | (~orcus@mail.brprice.uk) (Server closed connection) |
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| 2024-07-14 21:17:47 +0200 | yaroot | (~yaroot@p2987138-ipngn7501souka.saitama.ocn.ne.jp) (Server closed connection) |
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| 2024-07-14 21:18:33 +0200 | oneeyedalien | (~oneeyedal@user/oneeyedalien) (Quit: Leaving) |
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| 2024-07-14 21:21:00 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2024-07-14 21:22:51 +0200 | leah2 | (~leah@vuxu.org) |
| 2024-07-14 21:28:12 +0200 | rvalue | (~rvalue@user/rvalue) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2024-07-14 21:32:28 +0200 | aforemny_ | (~aforemny@i59F516EC.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) |
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| 2024-07-14 21:52:45 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Client Quit) |
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| 2024-07-14 21:54:59 +0200 | SteelBlueSilk | (~SteelBlue@user/SteelBlueSilk) (Server closed connection) |
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| 2024-07-14 21:55:41 +0200 | SteelBlueSilk | (~SteelBlue@c-98-42-249-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Changing host) |
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| 2024-07-14 22:18:14 +0200 | Leary | (~Leary@user/Leary/x-0910699) (Server closed connection) |
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| 2024-07-14 22:28:10 +0200 | phma | (phma@2001:5b0:210b:d718:d66b:9fbd:325d:b421) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2024-07-14 22:36:56 +0200 | vizimajac | (~Rodney@97e7368c.skybroadband.com) |
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| 2024-07-14 22:59:20 +0200 | dsrt^ | (eodrys@c-98-242-74-66.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2024-07-14 23:17:17 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2024-07-14 23:18:41 +0200 | Yumemi | (~Yumemi@2001:bc8:47a0:1b14::1) (Server closed connection) |
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| 2024-07-14 23:22:15 +0200 | michalz | (~michalz@185.246.207.205) (Quit: ZNC 1.9.0 - https://znc.in) |
| 2024-07-14 23:35:44 +0200 | mesaoptimizer | (~mesaoptim@user/PapuaHardyNet) (Server closed connection) |
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