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2024-06-21 00:14:08 +0200 <monochrom> It will be difficult (impossible?) to tell GHC "these are static data, don't bother traversing them during GC". But GHC GC is generational, it will eventually discover that the data has been live for too long so mark them as "very old generation" and then they are traversed infrequently.
2024-06-21 00:15:14 +0200 <monochrom> Likewise for the opposite, data that comes and goes fleetingly, GHC keeps them cheap.
2024-06-21 00:16:29 +0200 <geekosaur> compact regions, but you need to obey their rules or they won't work
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2024-06-21 00:21:36 +0200 <EvanR> didn't know about "very old generational"
2024-06-21 00:21:46 +0200 <geekosaur> but if your data is truly static, chuck it into a compact region and GC won't traverse anything pointing into it
2024-06-21 00:22:45 +0200 <EvanR> oh very old generation is just the oldest generation
2024-06-21 00:22:50 +0200 <geekosaur> you can specify a number of generations (default is 1 + nursery)
2024-06-21 00:23:21 +0200 <geekosaur> if you add more, GC of successive generations gets rarer and rarer
2024-06-21 00:26:46 +0200 <EvanR> I'm guessing that can lead to huge memory usage?
2024-06-21 00:27:22 +0200 <geekosaur> not really, you're using the same amount of memory but there's a little more overhead in GC
2024-06-21 00:27:54 +0200 <geekosaur> heap is allocated in blocks, it'll only be huge if you change the default heap block size
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2024-06-21 05:52:14 +0200 <cheater> i have a problem
2024-06-21 05:52:37 +0200 <cheater> my local hackage can index private dependencies no problem but it can't actually index what's on my disk
2024-06-21 05:52:48 +0200 <cheater> so my packages that are on the disk
2024-06-21 05:52:50 +0200 <cheater> how do i do that?
2024-06-21 06:00:15 +0200 <danse-nr3> those are also called "local" dependencies
2024-06-21 06:00:43 +0200 <danse-nr3> there is a way through cabal.project i think but i always forget the details
2024-06-21 06:01:26 +0200 <danse-nr3> oh sorry, overlooked that was about hackage
2024-06-21 06:06:42 +0200 <cheater> yup
2024-06-21 06:13:33 +0200philopsos1(~caecilius@user/philopsos)
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2024-06-21 06:19:07 +0200 <cheater> sorry i'm stupid i meant hoogle
2024-06-21 06:19:20 +0200 <cheater> my local >>hoogle<< does not index my local packages
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2024-06-21 06:27:49 +0200 <danse-nr3> oh
2024-06-21 06:28:23 +0200 <cheater> ok so digging more into this it comes from iohk's haskell.nix, and specifically its 'withHoogle' directive
2024-06-21 06:29:17 +0200 <danse-nr3> you are adding layers now. Well i use `hoogle generate` with stack
2024-06-21 06:29:47 +0200 <danse-nr3> and then `hoogle server` with the same --database
2024-06-21 06:30:07 +0200 <cheater> i don't use stack,i t's a cabal project
2024-06-21 06:30:08 +0200 <cheater> however
2024-06-21 06:30:25 +0200 <cheater> i've noticed on github there's kokobd/cabal-hoogle
2024-06-21 06:30:35 +0200 <cheater> that can create a hoogle database for a cabal project.
2024-06-21 06:30:48 +0200 <cheater> ok but
2024-06-21 06:31:01 +0200 <cheater> i don't really understand what a hoogle database is. can multiple programs populate the same database?
2024-06-21 06:31:12 +0200 <danse-nr3> the point is to produce a database with `hoogle generate`, the stack part is just about having hoogle as a binary
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2024-06-21 06:31:52 +0200 <danse-nr3> i don't think so. Why would you need that? Anyways, the database is how one would expect an index to be structured
2024-06-21 06:32:10 +0200 <danse-nr3> it's a bit funny, at times it seems to get corrupted when i kill the hoogle server
2024-06-21 06:32:16 +0200 <danse-nr3> and i have to regenerate it
2024-06-21 06:32:46 +0200 <cheater> what's the default path for it? it's not in my git checkout... hmm...
2024-06-21 06:33:11 +0200 <danse-nr3> there is --database to use with `hoogle generate` and `hoogle server`, getting into docs area
2024-06-21 06:33:42 +0200 <cheater> yeah i've seen this. but i don't use --database, i just run it directly, and it's already populated, meaning the database is somewhere else
2024-06-21 06:33:44 +0200 <danse-nr3> not sure about the default nor whether one exists
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2024-06-21 06:33:53 +0200 <danse-nr3> hmm i see
2024-06-21 06:34:00 +0200iza4k5(~iza4k5@2806:2f0:5321:fd27:bbca:24ba:4ae6:58b2)
2024-06-21 06:34:27 +0200 <cheater> can hoogle run without a database at all?
2024-06-21 06:34:30 +0200 <cheater> or is that impossible
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2024-06-21 06:35:14 +0200 <danse-nr3> nah i don't think so
2024-06-21 06:36:03 +0200 <danse-nr3> but hackage can if you can content yourself with that
2024-06-21 06:36:28 +0200 <cheater> no my objective is to get hoogle going
2024-06-21 06:36:31 +0200 <danse-nr3> huh i meant haddock sorry
2024-06-21 06:37:30 +0200 <cheater> nah need that hoogle
2024-06-21 06:37:36 +0200 <cheater> it's so confusing because all of them start with h
2024-06-21 06:38:35 +0200 <danse-nr3> i don't think it's difficult to generate a database, no matter whether one uses stack or cabal, but not sure about the nix file you mentioned
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2024-06-21 07:02:55 +0200 <cheater> so there's a bunch of default.hoo files under my nix store
2024-06-21 07:03:17 +0200 <cheater> each one's like /nix/store/(hash)-hoogle-with-packages/share/doc/hoogle/default.hoo
2024-06-21 07:05:29 +0200 <cheater> one of them is the hoogle that `which hoogle` resolves to
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2024-06-21 07:13:43 +0200 <cheater> aha so there's hoogle combine
2024-06-21 07:14:12 +0200 <cheater> that merges two databases
2024-06-21 07:14:30 +0200 <cheater> that command does NOT show up in hoogle -h
2024-06-21 07:14:48 +0200 <cheater> and also... doesn't seem to be a thing.
2024-06-21 07:14:51 +0200 <cheater> so the wiki is wrong ?
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2024-06-21 07:17:06 +0200 <cheater> combine was deleted 8 years ago
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2024-06-21 07:47:59 +0200 <cheater> what if i created a single package that depends on all my local packages but also on all their dependencies, and then ran hoogle generate on that
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2024-06-21 08:13:24 +0200 <danse-nr3> yes usually one would run hoogle generate after an haddock build, so that would be from a cabal or stack root package
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2024-06-21 12:34:01 +0200euleritian(~euleritia@dynamic-176-007-160-062.176.7.pool.telefonica.de) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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2024-06-21 21:28:07 +0200 <mauke> are free monads just functor kaleidoscopes?
2024-06-21 21:28:53 +0200andrei_n(~andrei_n@user/andrei-n:62396)
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2024-06-21 21:45:56 +0200Square(~Square@user/square)
2024-06-21 21:48:27 +0200 <ncf> what's a functor kaleidoscope?
2024-06-21 21:48:53 +0200 <glguy> I heard it's like a free monad
2024-06-21 21:49:23 +0200 <ncf> .-.
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2024-06-21 21:50:33 +0200 <darkling> It's similar to a hall of functor mirrors, but less confusing.
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2024-06-21 21:57:52 +0200 <EvanR> burrito of mirrors
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2024-06-21 21:58:17 +0200 <geekosaur> mirror of burritos
2024-06-21 21:58:55 +0200L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah)
2024-06-21 22:01:52 +0200 <c_wraith> now I'm hungry
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2024-06-21 22:45:49 +0200 <lxsameer> hey friends, I don't understand why I'm getting this exception: https://dpaste.com/87R9JTL5P
2024-06-21 22:45:55 +0200 <lxsameer> could you please help me understand
2024-06-21 22:47:25 +0200 <mauke> getErrorType's signature says the caller gets to choose an 'a'
2024-06-21 22:47:50 +0200 <mauke> but the implementation can't keep what the type signature promised
2024-06-21 22:48:43 +0200 <lxsameer> ah ok, but if i change the type to `forall a. (Exception a) => Error -> a` it still does not fix it
2024-06-21 22:49:28 +0200 <mauke> that means the same thing
2024-06-21 22:49:42 +0200 <lxsameer> mauke: what would be the fix here?
2024-06-21 22:49:42 +0200 <mauke> type variables are implicitly (universally) quantified at the top level
2024-06-21 22:49:51 +0200soverysour(~soverysou@user/soverysour) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2024-06-21 22:49:59 +0200 <mauke> depends on what you're trying to do
2024-06-21 22:50:08 +0200 <lxsameer> mauke: ow, got it
2024-06-21 22:50:38 +0200 <lxsameer> mauke: I want a function that take an error and returns the err field, which is promised to implement Exception typeclass
2024-06-21 22:50:45 +0200 <mauke> you could replace the whole !e thing by SomeException
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2024-06-21 22:51:11 +0200 <mauke> which is really just another existential wrapper around forall e. Exceptiion e => ... e
2024-06-21 22:51:28 +0200 <lxsameer> mauke: ahhhh, let me read about it
2024-06-21 22:51:28 +0200 <mauke> you can't return the err field directly because you don't know what type it is
2024-06-21 22:51:30 +0200 <lxsameer> thank you
2024-06-21 22:51:53 +0200 <lxsameer> isn't it enough to use the type class here?
2024-06-21 22:51:55 +0200 <mauke> the other option is to CPS-transform getErrorType
2024-06-21 22:52:38 +0200 <mauke> getErrorType :: Error -> (forall a. (Exception a) => a -> b) -> b
2024-06-21 22:52:59 +0200 <lxsameer> interesting
2024-06-21 22:53:13 +0200 <mauke> but we don't have an 'exists' quantifier
2024-06-21 22:53:29 +0200 <lxsameer> gotcha
2024-06-21 22:53:34 +0200 <mauke> so if you want to return the value directly, you have to use an existential wrapper like Error (or SomeException)
2024-06-21 22:53:35 +0200 <lxsameer> thank you, it's time to read
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