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2024-06-16 00:32:53 +0000 <hololeap> anyone know why `cabal update` would be creating a dist-newstyle/ in $PWD ?
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2024-06-16 01:42:00 +0000 <monochrom> That was a bug. Fixed in a later version. Has been a while.
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2024-06-16 03:17:10 +0000 <koala_man> oh fun... riscv gcc does not recognize -march=native
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2024-06-16 03:27:19 +0000 <probie> It only supports -march=native on Linux, and only for arm, x86, mips and s390/zSeries (IBM's mainframe architecture). Not all architectures even have a `-march` option (e.g. for SPARC, you want `-mcpu=native`)
2024-06-16 03:28:33 +0000 <geekosaur> go go gadget consistency
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2024-06-16 03:34:46 +0000 <koala_man> how do I set -f -arch-native for all packages (at least hashable)? I hoped `cabal install ... -f -arch-native` would do that when hashable is a dependency, but I guess not
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2024-06-16 03:37:54 +0000 <geekosaur> you need a cabal.project: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/LRlWtW77
2024-06-16 03:38:09 +0000 <geekosaur> (although cabal.project.local is preferred for that)
2024-06-16 03:38:47 +0000 <probie> The mistake was having a little consistency. The `-m` flags are the "machine-dependent" options, so I enjoy the implication that it's a bug not to be able to use them in machine-independent way
2024-06-16 03:40:01 +0000 <geekosaur> note that flags in different packages aren't guaranteed to mean the same thing, so you probably want `package hashable` instead of `package *`
2024-06-16 03:41:13 +0000 <geekosaur> and re what probie said, you can conditionalize on cpu or platform in cabal.project{,.local} if needed
2024-06-16 03:41:37 +0000 <geekosaur> (but not on flags because they're a property of cabal files, not projects)
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2024-06-16 03:50:15 +0000 <koala_man> I tried googling things and put `package hashable\n flags: -arch-native` in my ~/.cabal/config, but it says "Unrecognized stanza"
2024-06-16 03:50:44 +0000 <geekosaur> no, it doesn't go in .cabal/config
2024-06-16 03:50:55 +0000 <geekosaur> it goes in cabal.project.local
2024-06-16 03:51:24 +0000 <koala_man> oh. I misinterpreted https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/3.4/cabal-project.html which lists the order of files as 1. ~/cabal/config 2. cabal.project
2024-06-16 03:51:29 +0000 <geekosaur> cabal doesn't have a way to do it system-wide / a "default project"
2024-06-16 03:52:00 +0000 <geekosaur> stack does, but disrecommends using it (in particular, if you have a stack.yaml it will _not_ inherit from the default config!)]
2024-06-16 03:52:20 +0000 <geekosaur> right, that's only valid for things that can go in .cabal/config
2024-06-16 03:52:36 +0000 <geekosaur> lots of things in cabal.project can't be put in the global config
2024-06-16 03:54:17 +0000 <koala_man> I'm trying to do a build in docker, but it's running under a riscv emulator so I want to build the dependencies beforehand to reduce the build time from 5 to 2 hours
2024-06-16 03:55:36 +0000 <koala_man> ideally I'd cross compile but ghc is not great at that
2024-06-16 03:57:30 +0000 <geekosaur> `cabal build all --only-dependencies`?
2024-06-16 03:58:54 +0000 <koala_man> can I specify a cabal.project when I do `cabal install --dependencies-only ShellCheck`?
2024-06-16 03:59:21 +0000 <geekosaur> --project=file=whatever
2024-06-16 03:59:33 +0000 <geekosaur> uh
2024-06-16 03:59:38 +0000 <geekosaur> --project-file=whatever
2024-06-16 04:00:37 +0000 <koala_man> I get "The given project file 'cabal.project' does not exist." even though it's in the current directory
2024-06-16 04:01:20 +0000 <koala_man> https://gist.github.com/koalaman/25ac21b7db51c7d4fe1cc3664b9f6db8
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2024-06-16 04:05:25 +0000 <geekosaur> what version of cabal-install is this? I think some bugs have been fixed recently-ish (3.10.2/3?)
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2024-06-16 04:06:50 +0000 <koala_man> definitely older. I'll try upgrading
2024-06-16 04:10:16 +0000madhavanmi(~madhavanm@2409:40f4:10fb:ebb4:8000::)
2024-06-16 04:10:41 +0000 <geekosaur> hm, actually I think that's supposed to ignore a project file
2024-06-16 04:10:57 +0000 <geekosaur> because you're telling it to build from hackage, not a local project
2024-06-16 04:11:34 +0000 <geekosaur> I don't think you have any control unless you create a project and vendor e.g. ShellCheck, but you're better off asking in #hackage
2024-06-16 04:11:59 +0000 <geekosaur> (not that anyone's likely to be around until tomorrow morning CEST)
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2024-06-16 05:07:00 +0000 <sclv> yeh, no project files with cabal installing. gotta pass command line args
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2024-06-16 09:26:33 +0000 <ibrettyoudid> hls is not finding the package db in vscodium (arm64)
2024-06-16 09:28:48 +0000 <ibrettyoudid> i'm using path rather than ghcup because ghcup downloads a messed up hls-2.8
2024-06-16 09:29:59 +0000 <ibrettyoudid> anyone know how to either point hls-2.7 to the package-db or download a working hls-2.8 (arm64)
2024-06-16 09:39:24 +0000 <ibrettyoudid> hello
2024-06-16 09:40:53 +0000causal(~eric@50.35.88.207) (Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1)
2024-06-16 09:40:57 +0000 <ibrettyoudid> anyone know how to either point hls-2.7 to the package-db since I don't think it's finding it
2024-06-16 09:41:05 +0000 <Rembane> I think people are asleep. Have patience. :)
2024-06-16 09:41:09 +0000 <Rembane> I have no idea.
2024-06-16 09:42:06 +0000 <ibrettyoudid> ok i am using a new irc client i wasn't sure if it was sending
2024-06-16 09:44:24 +0000 <Rembane> It is. :)
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2024-06-16 09:51:13 +0000 <ibrettyoudid> thanks. this is all around VS Codium, maybe I should try emacs
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2024-06-16 09:56:38 +0000 <Rembane> Do that to get another datapoint.
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2024-06-16 13:22:22 +0000 <haskellbridge> <maerwald> @irc_libera.chat_ibrettyoudid:kf8nh.com: I doubt it. Are you using vanilla channel?
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2024-06-16 14:31:08 +0000edwardkwakes up and looks around and decides to kick the tires on this haskell thing again for an evening.
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2024-06-16 14:40:52 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> edwardk: it's good, stick with it!
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2024-06-16 15:52:56 +0000 <EvanR> haskell rocks
2024-06-16 15:53:14 +0000 <geekosaur> haskell clouds
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2024-06-16 15:54:21 +0000 <mauke> but stay away from lenses, they're very complicated
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2024-06-16 16:06:55 +0000 <int-e> Remember when a lens was just focus :: a -> (s, s -> a) ...simpler times.
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2024-06-16 21:28:32 +0000 <brett303> anyone know what happened to ghcup 0.1.21? it's not on downloads dot haskell
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2024-06-16 21:29:44 +0000 <iqubic> Haskell is amazing!
2024-06-16 21:29:47 +0000 <iqubic> I love haskell.
2024-06-16 21:30:43 +0000 <sprout> what stage is this?
2024-06-16 21:31:21 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> second honeymoon!
2024-06-16 21:32:07 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> #ghcup:matrix.org (https://matrix.to/#/#ghcup:matrix.org) will know brett303
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2024-06-16 21:33:24 +0000 <geekosaur> also on irc as #haskell-ghcup
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2024-06-16 21:35:23 +0000 <monochrom> Is that just because 0.1.22 has been released for a while?
2024-06-16 21:35:40 +0000 <geekosaur> no, older versions are still there
2024-06-16 21:35:48 +0000 <geekosaur> presumably it has been withdrawn
2024-06-16 21:36:21 +0000 <geekosaur> I checked the wayback machine but it doesn't have any snapshots beween 0.1.20 and 0.1.22
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2024-06-16 21:39:26 +0000 <monochrom> Oh github, there is no 0.1.21 tag, it jumped from 0.1.20 to 0.1.22. Perhaps 21 did not exist.
2024-06-16 21:40:00 +0000 <EvanR> the forbidden version
2024-06-16 21:41:17 +0000AlexNoo_(~AlexNoo@178.34.163.174)
2024-06-16 21:41:18 +0000 <brett303> not to get superstitious on people but i noticed one of the files ghcup (presumably) downloaded had my own name in the filename!
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2024-06-16 21:48:52 +0000 <monochrom> Maybe it is instead saying "here is where I save the file" and of course since it's in your home directory it has your username in it.
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2024-06-16 21:51:57 +0000 <brett303> not in the path, the filename of a library buried deep in the tree, in leet-speak
2024-06-16 21:52:24 +0000 <monochrom> heh OK
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2024-06-16 21:52:48 +0000 <brett303> i know
2024-06-16 21:52:53 +0000 <monochrom> Speaking of which, I like the prime number 31337 very much.
2024-06-16 21:53:26 +0000 <monochrom> The surprise is that it is a prime number. Math has spoken its opinion. :)
2024-06-16 21:53:56 +0000 <EvanR> that number is boring, it's just 10 in base 31337
2024-06-16 21:54:57 +0000 <EvanR> > log 31337 / log 2
2024-06-16 21:54:59 +0000 <lambdabot> 14.935579451756643
2024-06-16 21:55:09 +0000 <EvanR> > 2**15
2024-06-16 21:55:11 +0000 <lambdabot> 32768.0
2024-06-16 21:55:38 +0000 <monochrom> When I teach binary, I write like "twelve = 12_10 = 1100_2" to make a subtle point.
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2024-06-16 21:56:27 +0000 <monochrom> In fact, I go so far as writing "one * ten^one + two".
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2024-06-16 21:57:40 +0000 <cheater> is it possible to run HLS in monorepi?
2024-06-16 21:57:44 +0000 <EvanR> that eventually breaks down too because million and billion are apparently some other amounts in british
2024-06-16 21:58:10 +0000 <monochrom> OK, 1 * ten^one + 2. I can link you to the actual slides: https://www.cs.utoronto.ca/~trebla/CSCB09-2023-Summer/40-files-l.pdf then page 20 (out of 34)
2024-06-16 21:58:59 +0000 <cheater> specifically so it understands all the packages in one git repo
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2024-06-16 21:59:41 +0000 <monochrom> But basically the ambiguity of "10" in "1 * 10^1 + 2" is not lost on me. But if I write "ten" or "two" or "sixteen" it is clear.
2024-06-16 21:59:50 +0000 <geekosaur> cheater, probably ask in #haskell-language-server
2024-06-16 22:01:49 +0000 <monochrom> ObHaskell: I just lament (rejoice?) that C doesn't have binary syntax, GHC does. :)
2024-06-16 22:02:09 +0000 <EvanR> just to clarify, 10_10
2024-06-16 22:02:14 +0000 <EvanR> 10_10_10_10_...
2024-06-16 22:02:44 +0000 <monochrom> Proof by intimidation. Clarification by repetition. :)
2024-06-16 22:03:38 +0000 <EvanR> five = 12_10
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2024-06-16 22:04:13 +0000 <dolio> Yeah, that actually doesn't clarify anything.
2024-06-16 22:04:27 +0000 <monochrom> Hey people who like the Cantor set may like that too. :)
2024-06-16 22:04:31 +0000 <brett303> 31337 being the 3379th prime
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2024-06-16 22:06:26 +0000 <cheater> given that there are bugs about performance in monorepos, i'd guess hls does work in monorepos https://github.com/haskell/haskell-language-server/issues/2151
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2024-06-16 22:07:14 +0000 <EvanR> on the scientific calculator log_10 means one thing, but the programmer's calculator it should be another xD
2024-06-16 22:07:48 +0000 <EvanR> 10 kinds of calculator
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2024-06-16 22:08:17 +0000 <brett303> does haskell just not work on arm64?
2024-06-16 22:08:35 +0000 <monochrom> Haha EvanR yes!
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2024-06-16 22:09:32 +0000 <monochrom> I think haskell works on arm64. I heard people ran ghc on android phones. I don't know how easy though, probably not easy.
2024-06-16 22:09:48 +0000 <hololeap> I just guided someone to install ghc-9.4 on arm64 on Gentoo
2024-06-16 22:10:03 +0000 <hololeap> not sure how much pain remains for them though
2024-06-16 22:11:12 +0000 <brett303> Oh yeah Gentoo has building from source as a strength
2024-06-16 22:11:23 +0000 <brett303> I'm on Debian on my arm64
2024-06-16 22:11:45 +0000bitdex(~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex)
2024-06-16 22:11:57 +0000 <hololeap> they built ghc-9.4.8 with https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/9.4.3/ghc-9.4.3-aarch64-deb10-linux.tar.xz
2024-06-16 22:12:22 +0000 <hololeap> using https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/9.8.2/hadrian-bootstrap-sources/hadrian-bootstrap-sources-9.4.3…
2024-06-16 22:12:55 +0000 <hololeap> just saying it's possible
2024-06-16 22:13:07 +0000 <brett303> ok thank you
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2024-06-16 22:14:07 +0000 <hololeap> there's also a aarch64-deb10 tarball for other versions. I just wanted it to match the hadrian-bootstrap-sources version
2024-06-16 22:14:18 +0000 <monochrom> Tangentially, I teach a Unix course and I recommend students who prefer staying with Windows or Mac to install Ubuntu in VirtualBox. Except that it doesn't exist for M1/M2. Last year we were stuck. This year fortunately I stumbled across UTM (https://docs.getutm.app/installation/macos/), so that's something. But next up is Ubuntu simply doesn't make a desktop installer for arm64, you have to install server then "apt install ubuntu-desktop".
2024-06-16 22:15:06 +0000 <monochrom> I'm trying to say that a lot of software and people have not caught up to arm and M1/M2. It is a little bit shameful.
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2024-06-16 22:19:41 +0000 <EvanR> students don't telnet into the mainframe?!
2024-06-16 22:20:05 +0000 <EvanR> for a unix course at a university
2024-06-16 22:20:18 +0000 <EvanR> a mainframe running, ahem... unix? lol
2024-06-16 22:20:29 +0000 <monochrom> Oh, a lot of them are too lazy to install anything, so they ssh into the school server. Close enough.
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2024-06-16 22:21:25 +0000 <haskellbridge> <sm> monochrom: multipass is/was very good for running ubuntu on macs. A mac firewall bug has been breaking it for a while but they might have a workaround now
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2024-06-16 23:30:55 +0000 <jjhoo> really no virtualbox for apple m2? I guess I want to keep my intel-based macbook pro as long as possible
2024-06-16 23:33:38 +0000 <geekosaur> apparently it's in beta and still has a lot of limitations
2024-06-16 23:34:53 +0000 <geekosaur> apple seems to have gone to a lot of effort to be as un-ARM as possible with their ARM-based products
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2024-06-16 23:40:37 +0000 <cheater> is the hls integration in vim way worse than nvim, or are they pretty much the same?
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