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2024-05-02 03:48:55 +0200 <haskellbridge> <s​m> gitlab search: unusable by me...
2024-05-02 03:53:11 +0200 <geekosaur> or anyone else, from what I've heard
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2024-05-02 04:09:36 +0200 <monochrom> tomsmeding: I don't teach existential types. I just teach Haskell 2010; even then maybe only a basic subset.
2024-05-02 04:11:21 +0200 <monochrom> I think I can summarize what I cover as Hindley-Milner plus single-param type classes up to classes of * -> * kinds so I can cover Foldable.
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2024-05-02 04:27:26 +0200 <bsima> is there a way to tell ghc or haddock to error if a function or type isn't documented?
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2024-05-02 05:08:15 +0200bgt32(~keutoi@223.184.79.113)
2024-05-02 05:12:10 +0200 <bgt32> I'm getting a 'Non type-variable argument in the constraint: MArray (STUArray s) a (ST s)' error, but only in older version of haskell ~ 8.10.1. This isn't happening in 9.2.8. Any idea why?
2024-05-02 05:14:53 +0200 <monochrom> haddock reports how many things are undocumented, but I don't know how to make it an error.
2024-05-02 05:15:59 +0200rdcdr_(~rdcdr@75-172-82-76.tukw.qwest.net)
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2024-05-02 05:17:16 +0200 <monochrom> New GHCs default to implicit {-# language GHC2021 #-} which implies FlexibleContexts allowing those constraints.
2024-05-02 05:18:19 +0200 <c_wraith> bgt32: in addition to monochrom's answer, see https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/9.8.2/docs/users_guide/exts/flexible_contexts.html
2024-05-02 05:18:24 +0200 <bgt32> monochrom: thank you
2024-05-02 05:18:59 +0200 <c_wraith> bgt32: the GHC2021 thing is a link, which gives a list of all the things on by default now
2024-05-02 05:21:50 +0200 <bgt32> Wow, many changes. I should have suspected something when tuplesections worked without the extension enabled.
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2024-05-02 05:22:30 +0200 <monochrom> :) That's also one of them.
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2024-05-02 09:26:15 +0200 <tomsmeding> monochrom: sounds good! How often do you think "if only I had a compiler that supported just Haskell2010 and gave error messages that don't jump outside that fragment"?
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2024-05-02 15:54:22 +0200 <haskellbridge> <m​agic_rb> tomsmeding: you dont happen to be at the utrecht university campus
2024-05-02 15:55:01 +0200 <haskellbridge> <m​agic_rb> *science park ig
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2024-05-02 16:36:12 +0200 <tomsmeding> magic_rb: I do
2024-05-02 16:37:11 +0200waleee(~waleee@h-176-10-144-38.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) (Quit: WeeChat 4.1.2)
2024-05-02 16:37:40 +0200 <tomsmeding> But I kind of have a paper deadline in like 5 days so :p
2024-05-02 16:40:14 +0200 <haskellbridge> <m​agic_rb> We already dipped sadly
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2024-05-02 17:45:08 +0200 <hseg> Trying to compile my code with -pie unsuccessfully -- no matter what combination of flags I pass it, ld complains and advises passing -fPIE. Advice?
2024-05-02 17:45:46 +0200 <tomsmeding> hseg: trying to compile haskell code or C code?
2024-05-02 17:45:49 +0200 <hseg> haskell
2024-05-02 17:46:03 +0200 <tomsmeding> what special linking are you doing
2024-05-02 17:46:05 +0200 <tomsmeding> >
2024-05-02 17:46:07 +0200 <tomsmeding> * ?
2024-05-02 17:46:34 +0200 <tomsmeding> if you don't have any C sources in your project and are just 'cabal build'ing, and you get an error from ld, something fishy is going on
2024-05-02 17:46:40 +0200 <hseg> actually, there might be C components in deps
2024-05-02 17:46:54 +0200 <tomsmeding> can you post the full output of your build command?
2024-05-02 17:48:34 +0200 <hseg> https://0x0.st/XXen.txt
2024-05-02 17:49:32 +0200 <hseg> I've tried with/without --enable-shared, with/without -fPIE, nothing works
2024-05-02 17:51:01 +0200 <tomsmeding> hseg: have you tried without that entire second line of the configure command? (Make sure you're deleting any config files created by the configure command)
2024-05-02 17:51:04 +0200 <tomsmeding> er
2024-05-02 17:51:09 +0200 <tomsmeding> without the third line of that command
2024-05-02 17:51:33 +0200 <hseg> without the third line things build perfectly
2024-05-02 17:51:39 +0200gehmehgeh(~user@user/gehmehgeh)
2024-05-02 17:51:47 +0200 <tomsmeding> (side note, `cabal configure` is unnecessary here, you can just pass those flags to `cabal build` -- and why are you doing `v2-build`? `build` should work fine with non-ancient cabal)
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2024-05-02 17:52:16 +0200 <tomsmeding> is that a solution then?
2024-05-02 17:52:17 +0200 <hseg> ah, that's probably cargo-culted from an old build script
2024-05-02 17:52:46 +0200 <tomsmeding> the -O is also redundant (it's default), and the --jobs is also default
2024-05-02 17:52:52 +0200 <hseg> also, I'm configuring since in a later step I also run tests and install it into a directory to be zipped up into a package
2024-05-02 17:53:01 +0200 <tomsmeding> `cabal build --prefix=/usr --docdir=... --enable-tests` should do the job
2024-05-02 17:53:12 +0200 <hseg> (presumably, those need the configuration to carry over?)
2024-05-02 17:53:13 +0200 <tomsmeding> I see
2024-05-02 17:53:16 +0200 <tomsmeding> yeah
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2024-05-02 17:53:20 +0200 <tomsmeding> still, those three flags should be enough
2024-05-02 17:53:50 +0200chiselfuse(~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2024-05-02 17:55:08 +0200 <hseg> except the resulting code doesn't have relro or pie enabled (building to double check)
2024-05-02 17:55:14 +0200 <tomsmeding> is that a problem?
2024-05-02 17:55:20 +0200 <tomsmeding> it's an executable, right?
2024-05-02 17:55:32 +0200 <hseg> yeah, it's executable
2024-05-02 17:56:06 +0200chiselfuse(~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse)
2024-05-02 17:56:06 +0200 <tomsmeding> as far as I understand, those flags are typically relevant if you want to build libraries dynamically
2024-05-02 17:56:28 +0200 <tomsmeding> but haskell libraries are usually linked statically into haskell executables
2024-05-02 17:56:40 +0200 <hseg> ah, OK. Was worried since the packaging system was yelling at me
2024-05-02 17:56:49 +0200 <hseg> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_package_guidelines/Security is the relevant policy
2024-05-02 17:56:52 +0200 <tomsmeding> with sufficient magic you can make that go dynamically too, but there is typically no good reason for that
2024-05-02 17:56:57 +0200 <tomsmeding> that is pointless for haskell
2024-05-02 17:57:22 +0200 <tomsmeding> the usual security reason for dynamic libraries (disclaimer: I haven't read that specific page) is that you can update dynamic libraries without updating the executable
2024-05-02 17:57:32 +0200 <tomsmeding> hence allowing one to distribute security updates without having to rebuild the world
2024-05-02 17:57:46 +0200 <tomsmeding> but GHC doesn't have a stable ABI so that doesn't work for haskell, you have to rebuild dependents anyway
2024-05-02 17:57:46 +0200 <hseg> right, which given ghc's cross-module optimizations, is irrelevant for ghc haskell
2024-05-02 17:57:49 +0200 <tomsmeding> so you might as well static link
2024-05-02 17:57:58 +0200 <hseg> sniped
2024-05-02 17:58:13 +0200 <tomsmeding> optimisations too, but that's mostly irrelevant to the point -- even without optimisations it would be pointless
2024-05-02 17:58:20 +0200 <tomsmeding> the only reason would be to save a bit of disk space
2024-05-02 17:58:46 +0200 <tomsmeding> but in the haskell community that's a considered a meager win versus the significant increased hassle of dynamic linking
2024-05-02 17:58:49 +0200 <tomsmeding> (for haskell)
2024-05-02 17:58:53 +0200danso_odanso
2024-05-02 17:58:54 +0200 <hseg> oh? I thought the ABI instability was caused by the libraries getting infected with the build plans?
2024-05-02 17:58:59 +0200 <tomsmeding> note that system libs are still linked dynamically
2024-05-02 17:59:05 +0200 <tomsmeding> e.g. libc, zlib, gmp, etc
2024-05-02 17:59:12 +0200 <tomsmeding> yeah also
2024-05-02 17:59:28 +0200euleritian(~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2024-05-02 17:59:49 +0200 <tomsmeding> but if you recompile a new version of a library, even if the haskell-level interface is compatible, the binary interface is probably not
2024-05-02 17:59:56 +0200 <tomsmeding> GHC makes no guarantees there
2024-05-02 18:00:05 +0200 <tomsmeding> so you have to rebuild dependent libraries and executables anyway
2024-05-02 18:00:26 +0200 <tomsmeding> (this is different from the C world, where C-level compatibility implies ABI-level compatibility if you have the same compiler)
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2024-05-02 18:00:56 +0200 <hseg> hrm. What causes that instability?
2024-05-02 18:01:07 +0200 <tomsmeding> just that there's no effort at stability
2024-05-02 18:01:19 +0200 <tomsmeding> the reason for which is, indeed, cross-module optimisations
2024-05-02 18:01:54 +0200 <tomsmeding> so indirectly it's because of optimisations, but the direct cause is lack of ABI stability
2024-05-02 18:02:01 +0200tri(~tri@ool-18bc2e74.dyn.optonline.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
2024-05-02 18:02:27 +0200 <hseg> ah -- because a haskell-compatible library edit might expose new optimizations, which might change the effective ABI?
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2024-05-02 18:02:39 +0200 <tomsmeding> yep
2024-05-02 18:02:52 +0200 <hseg> eg you'd get a function dropped since it gets inlined everywhere?
2024-05-02 18:02:52 +0200califax(~califax@user/califx)
2024-05-02 18:03:12 +0200 <tomsmeding> more that the types of the arguments might change on the assembly level
2024-05-02 18:03:14 +0200 <tomsmeding> names too
2024-05-02 18:03:25 +0200 <hseg> oh, because of specialization?
2024-05-02 18:03:39 +0200 <tomsmeding> the haskell interface file (.hi) produced by GHC as a side effect of compilation describes where the code is and what it looks like in the object file
2024-05-02 18:03:45 +0200euleritian(~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2024-05-02 18:03:55 +0200 <tomsmeding> e.g. specialisation, but also worker-wrapper transformation
2024-05-02 18:04:28 +0200 <tomsmeding> (if you write `foo :: Int -> Int`, that converts into `foo :: Int -> Int ; foo (I# i) = I# (foo$w i) where foo$w :: Int# -> Int#`)
2024-05-02 18:04:38 +0200 <hseg> right, and that transformation can change intermediate types even if the worker's type doesn't
2024-05-02 18:04:44 +0200 <tomsmeding> where the outer foo just does wrapping in data constructors and the inner foo$w works on unboxed values
2024-05-02 18:04:55 +0200 <tomsmeding> the outer foo doesn't have any code generated because it is intended to be inlined everywhere
2024-05-02 18:05:15 +0200 <tomsmeding> the type of foo$w is dependent on the implementation of foo, unlike the type of foo itself which is independent on foo's implementation
2024-05-02 18:05:21 +0200 <hseg> ohhh and so everyone will be calling the worker, whose type can change between recompilations?
2024-05-02 18:05:24 +0200 <tomsmeding> yes
2024-05-02 18:05:40 +0200 <hseg> ah yeah that would definitely be a problem
2024-05-02 18:06:06 +0200 <hseg> and it's fundamental enough I can't even picture what an ABI-stable GHC is anymore
2024-05-02 18:06:11 +0200 <tomsmeding> :)
2024-05-02 18:06:20 +0200 <tomsmeding> I mean, it wouldn't be that hard
2024-05-02 18:06:49 +0200 <tomsmeding> you'd have to define some standard calling convention, and use that to define additional wrapper functions that _are_ materialised in the object files, and just unused whenever GHC can see the interface file
2024-05-02 18:07:03 +0200 <tomsmeding> then you'd have to convince GHC to use those wrappers instead of the workers directly
2024-05-02 18:07:17 +0200 <tomsmeding> conceptually this isn't very difficult, but it would be a lot of engineering
2024-05-02 18:07:23 +0200 <hseg> but wouldn't that lose optimization opportunities?
2024-05-02 18:07:25 +0200 <tomsmeding> yes
2024-05-02 18:07:40 +0200 <hseg> right, because now the workers will be opaque
2024-05-02 18:07:45 +0200 <tomsmeding> indeed
2024-05-02 18:07:54 +0200 <tomsmeding> worker-wrapper is one thing I know of where this plays a role
2024-05-02 18:08:07 +0200 <tomsmeding> there may well me more reasons for ABI instability that I'm not aware of -- I'm not a ghc hacker
2024-05-02 18:08:22 +0200 <hseg> fair enough
2024-05-02 18:08:31 +0200 <tomsmeding> but compiling a standardised wrapper function would theoretically be possible always
2024-05-02 18:08:36 +0200 <EvanR> IANAGH
2024-05-02 18:08:37 +0200califax(~califax@user/califx) (Remote host closed the connection)
2024-05-02 18:08:52 +0200 <tomsmeding> question is whether it would be worth the effort and the potential loss of some performance (to be measured)
2024-05-02 18:09:13 +0200 <hseg> just realized -- this has nothing to do with reproducible builds, that is something GHC *could* theoretically guarantee (and that is something that's more desireable to me)
2024-05-02 18:09:24 +0200 <tomsmeding> indeed
2024-05-02 18:09:31 +0200_ht(~Thunderbi@28-52-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl)
2024-05-02 18:09:50 +0200 <tomsmeding> same code with same compiler and same flags could, in principle, produce the same object code
2024-05-02 18:10:14 +0200 <tomsmeding> it probably doesn't for the standard reasons why builds are not reproducible, timestamps, paths etc
2024-05-02 18:10:21 +0200 <hseg> right
2024-05-02 18:11:23 +0200 <tomsmeding> EvanR: makes me think of this guy's name https://hackage.haskell.org/user/IanLynagh
2024-05-02 18:11:32 +0200 <tomsmeding> (random page with the name on it)
2024-05-02 18:12:06 +0200 <hseg> wait, isn't *PIC* for dynamic libraries, but *PIE* for any executable?
2024-05-02 18:12:20 +0200 <hseg> after all, it enables ASLR
2024-05-02 18:12:30 +0200 <tomsmeding> I guess? I don't know too much about this
2024-05-02 18:12:41 +0200 <EvanR> randomly clicking utf8-string on that page makes me think there should be a note about how Text is utf8 now
2024-05-02 18:12:48 +0200 <tomsmeding> haskell executables do link dynamically against C libraries though
2024-05-02 18:13:08 +0200 <hseg> right, but that means that even statically-linked haskell should benefit from -pie
2024-05-02 18:13:22 +0200 <hseg> (and relro, but that's a separate thing)
2024-05-02 18:13:54 +0200 <tomsmeding> isn't an executable already PIE if it's dynamically linking against stuff?
2024-05-02 18:14:26 +0200califax(~califax@user/califx)
2024-05-02 18:14:42 +0200 <tomsmeding> about worker-wrapper, by the way: here https://play.haskell.org/saved/yjnPTDnN if you click on "Core" you see 'foo' at the bottom with annotations that say that it can be inlined; the NOINLINE is on M.$wfoo right above
2024-05-02 18:14:51 +0200 <tomsmeding> despite the NOINLINE on foo in the source
2024-05-02 18:14:54 +0200 <hseg> nope -- PIC is for libraries, PIE is for executables AFAIK
2024-05-02 18:15:49 +0200 <tomsmeding> debian has given up on that for haskell apparently https://wiki.debian.org/StaticLinking#Haskell
2024-05-02 18:16:54 +0200 <hseg> on dynamic linking, yes
2024-05-02 18:17:03 +0200 <hseg> have they given up on ASLR for haskell?
2024-05-02 18:17:50 +0200machinedgod(~machinedg@d173-183-246-216.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2024-05-02 18:19:07 +0200 <hseg> in any case, that does put pie and relro back on the table for me
2024-05-02 18:19:15 +0200yin(~yin@user/zero)
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2024-05-02 18:23:01 +0200 <tomsmeding> hseg: is 'ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable' in file(1) output what you're looking for?
2024-05-02 18:23:11 +0200 <tomsmeding> try cabal configure --enable-shared --ghc-options='-pie -dynamic'
2024-05-02 18:23:35 +0200 <tomsmeding> don't even need the --enable-shared
2024-05-02 18:23:50 +0200 <hseg> testing...
2024-05-02 18:24:29 +0200euleritian(~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2024-05-02 18:24:31 +0200 <int-e> s/--enable-shared/-fPIE/ I think (different from -pie, you need that for linking)
2024-05-02 18:24:54 +0200 <hseg> tried --ghc-options='-pie -fPIE', didn't work
2024-05-02 18:25:01 +0200 <tomsmeding> I can compile an executable that gives the aforementioned string in file(1) output with just `-pie -dynamic`, nothing else
2024-05-02 18:25:14 +0200 <tomsmeding> I added a non-boot dependency to be sure that that works too, in principle
2024-05-02 18:25:15 +0200euleritian(~euleritia@dynamic-176-001-008-240.176.1.pool.telefonica.de)
2024-05-02 18:27:17 +0200 <int-e> And the trouble you'll run into is that the base libraries won't be compiled with the requisite -fPIE flag.
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2024-05-02 18:27:41 +0200 <hseg> https://0x0.st/XX23.txt
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2024-05-02 18:29:40 +0200 <int-e> That's when trying to link statically; with -dynamic -pie I get a PIE executable that's dynamically linked. (Just a simple hello world, no `cabal` involved)
2024-05-02 18:29:56 +0200 <tomsmeding> I see
2024-05-02 18:30:19 +0200califax(~califax@user/califx) (Remote host closed the connection)
2024-05-02 18:30:31 +0200tomsmedinggives up
2024-05-02 18:30:34 +0200 <hseg> I'm confused -- why is it linking statically?
2024-05-02 18:30:51 +0200 <tomsmeding> int-e was referring to the -fPIE note
2024-05-02 18:31:06 +0200 <hseg> ah
2024-05-02 18:31:14 +0200 <int-e> hseg: I'm on my own tangent which may or may not intersect with yours, sorry.
2024-05-02 18:31:55 +0200 <tomsmeding> but yeah sorry, I thought I knew enough to help but I don't
2024-05-02 18:31:59 +0200 <int-e> The reason why Haskell libraries are generally linked statically is that there's no ABI compatibility between recompiled versions of the same library.
2024-05-02 18:32:10 +0200 <tomsmeding> we've gone over that :)
2024-05-02 18:32:19 +0200 <int-e> <s>Ask me about Arch</s>
2024-05-02 18:32:24 +0200 <tomsmeding> hseg's question now is "even if I link statically, can I at least get the security benefits of PIE"
2024-05-02 18:32:48 +0200 <tomsmeding> the answer seems to be, nothing is set up for that so you're on your own?
2024-05-02 18:33:18 +0200 <hseg> int-e: indeed, which is why I've been building all my haskell programs statically on Arch, sidestepping their entire haskell ecosystem
2024-05-02 18:33:24 +0200 <int-e> But I imagine you can still build GHC such that it builds the base libraries with -fPIE. So that's the tangent I'm on right now... but it will take a while to try.
2024-05-02 18:34:16 +0200 <tomsmeding> hseg: that's what everyone here does, ignore anything haskell-related in the arch package repository and just use cabal/stack/whatever
2024-05-02 18:34:19 +0200 <tomsmeding> "cabal install cabal-fmt"
2024-05-02 18:35:45 +0200hseg(~gesh@77.137.75.224) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2024-05-02 18:35:59 +0200 <tomsmeding> bye :p
2024-05-02 18:36:06 +0200hseg(~gesh@77.137.75.224)
2024-05-02 18:36:16 +0200 <hseg> Apologies, computer crashed
2024-05-02 18:36:21 +0200 <tomsmeding> O.o
2024-05-02 18:36:35 +0200 <tomsmeding> logs link in topic if necessary
2024-05-02 18:38:17 +0200 <hseg> just missed your last three messages
2024-05-02 18:38:45 +0200 <hseg> yeah, so I integrate my haskell-related stuff *slightly* in arch so pacman can track the files
2024-05-02 18:38:50 +0200 <hseg> but not for much else
2024-05-02 18:39:02 +0200 <hseg> (eg am depending on cabal/stack for dependency resolution)
2024-05-02 18:39:08 +0200 <tomsmeding> right
2024-05-02 18:39:31 +0200 <tomsmeding> unless you want to either make your life very difficult, or do the same and also evangelise in the haskell community, I'd recommend skipping PIE :p
2024-05-02 18:39:41 +0200 <tomsmeding> I concede there is something to be won here
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2024-05-02 18:51:19 +0200 <int-e> hseg: I remember using Arch's ghc to build my own, then uninstalling the Arch one. So it was good enough for bootstrapping.
2024-05-02 18:52:20 +0200 <hseg> Right. I'm testing using a statically linked cabal-install and a ghcup-versioned ghc
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2024-05-02 18:53:50 +0200 <hseg> hrm. enabling relro (with --ld-options='-Wl,-z,relro,-z,now') still complains RELRO is only partially enabled
2024-05-02 18:53:55 +0200 <hseg> but at least it builds
2024-05-02 18:54:19 +0200 <hseg> given that that's no different from the previous behaviour, I'm tempted to drop it
2024-05-02 18:54:28 +0200 <hseg> pie is still a puzzle though
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2024-05-02 19:08:05 +0200tromp(~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl)
2024-05-02 19:08:19 +0200 <hseg> giving up and opening this up to comments from the users of the package
2024-05-02 19:08:41 +0200 <hseg> if they're concerned, let them share the burden of finding a workable build
2024-05-02 19:19:42 +0200jamesmartinez(uid6451@id-6451.helmsley.irccloud.com)
2024-05-02 19:37:59 +0200 <int-e> hseg: Well, this worked: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/cbI4u3Qk
2024-05-02 19:39:04 +0200 <hseg> hrm, testing
2024-05-02 19:39:13 +0200 <int-e> hseg: note that I rebuilt ghc for this
2024-05-02 19:39:46 +0200 <int-e> (with the settings at the end of that paste)
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2024-05-02 19:40:25 +0200 <int-e> I'm not sure why I needed -fPIC when compiling the final program, and not -fPIE.
2024-05-02 19:40:28 +0200euleritian(~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2024-05-02 19:40:49 +0200 <hseg> no dice
2024-05-02 19:41:07 +0200 <hseg> at least, not with cabal --ghc-options=-pie --ghc-options=-fPIC
2024-05-02 19:41:31 +0200 <hseg> ah, wait
2024-05-02 19:41:33 +0200 <hseg> one moment
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2024-05-02 19:44:41 +0200 <hseg> ... and *another* crash
2024-05-02 19:45:37 +0200 <hseg> ironic timing aside, was going to say the problematic case here was compiled with the wrong ghc, trying the correct one, one moment
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2024-05-02 20:08:24 +0200 <monochrom> tomsmeding: I haven't wished for a Haskell-2010-only compiler for error message purposes. Even within Haskell 2010, the Num class is already bad enough for that purpose, banning Foldable (for example) is not going to really help. (And I actually teach Foldable after the basics.)
2024-05-02 20:12:20 +0200 <tomsmeding> monochrom: right, overloaded int/float literals are definitely inconvenient for teaching (and frankly sometimes for programming too)
2024-05-02 20:13:01 +0200 <tomsmeding> for curiosity, do you not run into ghc flinging FlexibleConstraints, DataKinds, AllowAmbiguousTypes, RankNTypes, etc. in your students' faces?
2024-05-02 20:13:18 +0200 <tomsmeding> if they made an innocent mistake
2024-05-02 20:14:05 +0200 <monochrom> Here is where I show my laziness. I haven't polled students for what they are going through!
2024-05-02 20:14:35 +0200 <Rembane> monochrom: How much have they told you without polls?
2024-05-02 20:14:37 +0200 <tomsmeding> if you've taught enough students on this topic you'd have received complaints from their side if they're running into it a lot :)
2024-05-02 20:15:05 +0200 <monochrom> But those who came to my office hours have never showed me error messages of that kind. But that is a biased data pool.
2024-05-02 20:15:19 +0200 <tomsmeding> it is indeed, but it says something
2024-05-02 20:16:22 +0200 <hseg> int-e: ... and that's a no for -pie -fPIC via cabal: https://0x0.st/XXLc.txt
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2024-05-02 20:17:02 +0200 <monochrom> It is also possible that I only ask them to do basic low-tech things so it is very hard to even randomly wander into the high-tech error space.
2024-05-02 20:17:39 +0200 <tomsmeding> the fact that such a low-tech space exists is good, and mostly what I was asking for :)
2024-05-02 20:18:10 +0200 <hseg> thanks for the help, but ig I'll stick to my previous giving up
2024-05-02 20:18:11 +0200 <tomsmeding> when I do haskelling myself I sometimes marvel at the inscrutability of error messages I get when doing seemingly harmless things that even beginners could do
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2024-05-02 21:26:00 +0200 <int-e> @tell hseg Building with cabal-install works too if one sets the program flags in the config file (I did it for gcc (-fPIC), ghc (-fPIC and -fPIE), and ld (-pie)); I'm not sure how that translates to command line options.
2024-05-02 21:26:00 +0200 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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