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2024-01-26 01:52:39 +0100 | <shapr> | bgamari_: do you know of hx8k support for clash? That, I want to compile clash to the fomu? https://tomu.im/fomu.html |
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2024-01-26 04:27:52 +0100 | <mwnaylor> | Does anyone here have experience w/ Clojure? |
2024-01-26 04:30:11 +0100 | <mwnaylor> | I've only dabbled w/ Haskell, but the pure functionality helped me when delving into Scala and Clojure. |
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2024-01-26 05:21:09 +0100 | <xacktm> | anyone know if http://dev.stephendiehl.com/hask/ is temporarily down or has been down for a while? Any 2.5 version mirrors? |
2024-01-26 05:34:32 +0100 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
2024-01-26 05:38:16 +0100 | trev | (~trev@user/trev) |
2024-01-26 05:39:11 +0100 | <EvanR> | down for me too, not just you! |
2024-01-26 05:39:40 +0100 | <EvanR> | mwnaylor, yes I can decomplect if necessary |
2024-01-26 05:42:52 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> it has been down for years, I don't understand it, please contact him |
2024-01-26 05:54:10 +0100 | <Axman6> | tri: I didn't follow the whole discussion, but as for why you'd want to fold over a Maybe value, IMO it's more useful think of it as optionally doing something. So look at foldMap print, if you give that a Just it'll print it, if you give it a Nothing, it'll just return IO () |
2024-01-26 05:54:30 +0100 | <Axman6> | % foldMap print (Just 10) |
2024-01-26 05:54:30 +0100 | <yahb2> | 10 |
2024-01-26 05:54:37 +0100 | <monochrom> | That reminds me of a true story. A certain university's IT support once had this on their email support page: "If you still have trouble with email, send us an email at ..." |
2024-01-26 05:54:39 +0100 | <Axman6> | % foldMap print (Nothing :: Maybe Int) |
2024-01-26 05:54:39 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
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2024-01-26 06:01:24 +0100 | <EvanR> | to find your phone, use the find my phone app |
2024-01-26 06:02:02 +0100 | <EvanR> | to fix your internet, follow the guide at this URL |
2024-01-26 06:02:09 +0100 | <Axman6> | monochrom: it's not a certain email that you work at is it? XD |
2024-01-26 06:02:27 +0100 | <Axman6> | EvanR: to be fair, my watch does an a find my phoner app... |
2024-01-26 06:02:28 +0100 | <EvanR> | to see in the dark, first look for the flashlight |
2024-01-26 06:02:31 +0100 | <Axman6> | phone* |
2024-01-26 06:02:43 +0100 | <monochrom> | No, it was my friend's university. :) |
2024-01-26 06:03:00 +0100 | <EvanR> | glow in the dark sunglasses |
2024-01-26 06:09:22 +0100 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) |
2024-01-26 06:15:26 +0100 | michalz | (~michalz@185.246.207.221) |
2024-01-26 06:24:34 +0100 | <tri> | how could i compose String -> Either String (Vector a) to Vector a -> IO () please? |
2024-01-26 06:25:27 +0100 | <tri> | i have toRecord :: String -> Either String (Vector a) |
2024-01-26 06:25:37 +0100 | <tri> | and printRecord :: Vector a -> IO () |
2024-01-26 06:26:00 +0100 | <tri> | i'd like to unwrap the Vector a in the Either and feed into the printRecord function |
2024-01-26 06:26:11 +0100 | <tri> | of course without pattern matching |
2024-01-26 06:26:50 +0100 | <tri> | im looking for something like >>=, but the return of printRecord is IO, not Either so i can't use Monad |
2024-01-26 06:29:57 +0100 | <tri> | ... or pattern matching is the only option i have?.,. |
2024-01-26 06:32:21 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) |
2024-01-26 06:42:46 +0100 | <ski> | @where WIWIK |
2024-01-26 06:42:46 +0100 | <lambdabot> | "What I Wish I Knew When Learning Haskell" by Stephen Diehl at <https://github.com/sdiehl/wiwinwlh/blob/master/tutorial.md>,<https://web.archive.org/web/20220513191346/https://dev.stephendiehl.com/ |
2024-01-26 06:42:46 +0100 | <lambdabot> | hask/> |
2024-01-26 06:42:50 +0100 | <ski> | xacktm ^ |
2024-01-26 06:43:18 +0100 | <ski> | sm ^ |
2024-01-26 06:43:55 +0100 | <tri> | is that for me? |
2024-01-26 06:44:00 +0100 | <ski> | no |
2024-01-26 06:44:03 +0100 | <tri> | ah ok |
2024-01-26 06:44:10 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> both broken links, right ? |
2024-01-26 06:44:23 +0100 | <ski> | both links work for me |
2024-01-26 06:46:36 +0100 | <ski> | tri : what should happen if you get `Left' ? |
2024-01-26 06:46:42 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> Element was failing on the first, I see it now: https://github.com/sdiehl/wiwinwlh/blob/master/tutorial.md |
2024-01-26 06:46:42 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> The second shows me: Nothing to see here, move along. |
2024-01-26 06:46:56 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> still please contact sdiehl to update his page |
2024-01-26 06:47:04 +0100 | <ski> | sm : lambdabot broke it over two lines, please reassemble |
2024-01-26 06:47:11 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> (xacktm) |
2024-01-26 06:47:28 +0100 | <ski> | or, here : <https://github.com/sdiehl/wiwinwlh/blob/master/tutorial.md>,<https://web.archive.org/web/20220513191346/https://dev.stephendiehl.com/hask/> |
2024-01-26 06:47:35 +0100 | <EvanR> | you can easily compose them with >>= to get a String -> Either String (IO ()) |
2024-01-26 06:47:46 +0100 | <EvanR> | leading to ski's question about Left |
2024-01-26 06:47:54 +0100 | <tri> | haskellbridge: hmm i was not thinking about it, cause i was trying to run it in repl. So I just want to extract the Right value and feed it into the other funtion to see the result |
2024-01-26 06:48:26 +0100 | <EvanR> | you can issue two commands in repl... Right x <- toRecord "whatever" |
2024-01-26 06:48:28 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> https://web.archive.org/web/20220513191346/https://dev.stephendiehl.com/hask/ works, thanks |
2024-01-26 06:48:32 +0100 | <EvanR> | printRecord x |
2024-01-26 06:49:03 +0100 | <EvanR> | shoot, the first one isn't IO. let Right x = toRecord "whatever" |
2024-01-26 06:49:03 +0100 | <tri> | EvanR: Right x <- toRecord "whavetever" that's a legit syntax? |
2024-01-26 06:49:06 +0100 | <tri> | i gotta try it out |
2024-01-26 06:49:08 +0100 | <ski> | yes, tri |
2024-01-26 06:49:17 +0100 | <ski> | it's just pattern-matching |
2024-01-26 06:49:18 +0100 | <EvanR> | it would be if toRecord "whatever" were an IO action |
2024-01-26 06:49:21 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> FTR links enclosed in angle brackets don't work in Element, and angle brackets are generally superfluous here |
2024-01-26 06:51:03 +0100 | <tri> | ski: Right positions <- printPositions didn't work in my repl |
2024-01-26 06:51:20 +0100 | <tri> | positions :: Either String Position |
2024-01-26 06:51:31 +0100 | <tri> | printPositions :: Position -> IO () |
2024-01-26 06:51:58 +0100 | <tri> | i typed Right positions <- printPositions as you said pattern matching and didn't work |
2024-01-26 06:53:53 +0100 | <tri> | ah i see what you meant there |
2024-01-26 06:53:58 +0100 | <tri> | anyway |
2024-01-26 06:54:08 +0100 | <tri> | given these types |
2024-01-26 06:54:14 +0100 | <tri> | positions :: Either String Position |
2024-01-26 06:54:19 +0100 | Unicorn_Princess | (~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542) |
2024-01-26 06:54:20 +0100 | <tri> | printPositions :: Position -> IO () |
2024-01-26 06:54:28 +0100 | <EvanR> | let Right x = toRecord "whatever" |
2024-01-26 06:54:29 +0100 | <ski> | sm : "Appendix C. Delimiting a URI in Context", "Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax" (RFC 3986) in 2005-01 at <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3986#appendix-C> |
2024-01-26 06:54:42 +0100 | <tri> | is there a way feed positions to printPositions without pattern matching on the Right value? |
2024-01-26 06:54:57 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> why are you quoting standards at me :) |
2024-01-26 06:55:37 +0100 | <EvanR> | if IO () were a Monoid you could use Foldable to do it... |
2024-01-26 06:55:37 +0100 | <ski> | @type fromRight |
2024-01-26 06:55:38 +0100 | <lambdabot> | b -> Either a b -> b |
2024-01-26 06:56:08 +0100 | <EvanR> | but it's not (though there is a newtype for that) |
2024-01-26 06:56:26 +0100 | _________ | (~nobody@user/noodly) |
2024-01-26 06:56:38 +0100 | <tri> | ski: fromRight looks like the right function for me, but it's not shown when I type :t fromRight |
2024-01-26 06:56:43 +0100 | <ski> | sm : "here" and "Element" being ? |
2024-01-26 06:56:51 +0100 | <ski> | @index fromRight |
2024-01-26 06:56:51 +0100 | <lambdabot> | bzzt |
2024-01-26 06:57:06 +0100 | <ski> | @type Data.Either.fromRight |
2024-01-26 06:57:07 +0100 | <EvanR> | tri, realistically, if you do this more than once, write a function for it in your source file that you are loading in the repl |
2024-01-26 06:57:08 +0100 | <lambdabot> | b -> Either a b -> b |
2024-01-26 06:57:33 +0100 | <EvanR> | good technique in general to just start appending your work to the source file |
2024-01-26 06:57:37 +0100 | <EvanR> | then reload |
2024-01-26 06:58:20 +0100 | <ski> | tri : an alternative solution would be to get `IO (Either String ())' / `ExceptT String IO ()', or just `Either String (IO ())' as EvanR suggested |
2024-01-26 06:59:20 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> ski: ignore me. I was just letting you know that when you write links in angle brackets, they don't work for people like me connected to this channel via the Element matrix client. So in this context whitespace works better. Thanks |
2024-01-26 06:59:23 +0100 | _ht | (~Thunderbi@28-52-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl) |
2024-01-26 06:59:26 +0100 | <EvanR> | also since this pertains to printing out a record somehow, look into pretty printer libraries |
2024-01-26 06:59:43 +0100 | <EvanR> | because it's unfortunately not built in |
2024-01-26 06:59:50 +0100 | <tri> | how does IO (Either String ()) help me when in the context of positions and printPositions function |
2024-01-26 07:00:00 +0100 | <tri> | positions :: Either String Position |
2024-01-26 07:00:07 +0100 | <tri> | printPositions :: positions -> IO () |
2024-01-26 07:00:14 +0100 | <tri> | i dont see where IO (Either String ()) fit in sorry |
2024-01-26 07:01:16 +0100 | <EvanR> | if you want to crash on Left, you could write a function which does that or use fromRight |
2024-01-26 07:01:33 +0100 | <EvanR> | and just work with Position directly |
2024-01-26 07:02:17 +0100 | <tri> | yea i mean i kind of understand now |
2024-01-26 07:02:24 +0100 | <EvanR> | ExceptT lets you always be dealing with Either and IO together |
2024-01-26 07:02:28 +0100 | <EvanR> | at all times |
2024-01-26 07:02:53 +0100 | <ski> | sm, oh, so it was related to Matrix then |
2024-01-26 07:03:07 +0100 | <tri> | basically i need to handle the Error case all the time, just Monad abstract that away for me, so i will only need to be worried about the actual value when using monad |
2024-01-26 07:03:11 +0100 | <EvanR> | which is often redundant beacuse IO has exceptions already |
2024-01-26 07:03:22 +0100 | <tri> | but since this is different strcutre, i can't use monad |
2024-01-26 07:03:29 +0100 | <EvanR> | ExceptT is a monad |
2024-01-26 07:03:43 +0100 | <tri> | so i either need to pattern match, or use fromString to have a default value to account for when Either is a Left |
2024-01-26 07:04:01 +0100 | <EvanR> | to keep it simple, just pattern match |
2024-01-26 07:04:23 +0100 | <tri> | oh i see ExceptT is a monad transformer |
2024-01-26 07:04:29 +0100 | <tri> | too bad i didn't read to that chapter yet |
2024-01-26 07:04:32 +0100 | <EvanR> | and if everything is IO, react to Left by throwing an IO exception |
2024-01-26 07:04:37 +0100 | mulk | (~mulk@p5b2dc93f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
2024-01-26 07:04:55 +0100 | <EvanR> | which is basically what fromRight would do. You have an embarrassment of riches of ways to do it |
2024-01-26 07:05:09 +0100 | <ski> | tri : either you could handle the `Left str', by saying what it should do in that case. or you could punt the decision of what to do, to the caller/user, by either using `Either String (IO ())', or by doing `IO (Either String ())' / `ExceptT String IO ()' |
2024-01-26 07:06:15 +0100 | <ski> | `fromString' ? |
2024-01-26 07:06:50 +0100 | <tri> | gotta change my name to something other than tri. Get alerted whenever someone types string |
2024-01-26 07:07:13 +0100 | <ski> | maybe you could change alerting to only react to full words ? |
2024-01-26 07:07:17 +0100 | <EvanR> | or fix your client because tri within "string" obviously isn't trying to notify you |
2024-01-26 07:07:23 +0100 | benjaminl | (~benjaminl@user/benjaminl) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2024-01-26 07:07:57 +0100 | <EvanR> | we're too far past the end of IRC to be using bad clients |
2024-01-26 07:08:11 +0100 | benjaminl | (~benjaminl@user/benjaminl) |
2024-01-26 07:08:35 +0100 | <tri> | can someone type string again? |
2024-01-26 07:08:40 +0100 | <EvanR> | string again |
2024-01-26 07:08:48 +0100 | <tri> | ok im good now thank you |
2024-01-26 07:09:39 +0100 | <ski> | tri_ |
2024-01-26 07:09:42 +0100 | <ski> | tri: |
2024-01-26 07:09:44 +0100 | <ski> | tri, |
2024-01-26 07:09:49 +0100 | <tri> | worked |
2024-01-26 07:10:03 +0100 | <ski> | the latter two alerts, maybe ? |
2024-01-26 07:10:35 +0100 | mulk | (~mulk@p5b112b23.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
2024-01-26 07:11:28 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 05<irregularsphere> lol imagine someone named "i" |
2024-01-26 07:12:19 +0100 | <ski> | -NickServ(NickServ@services.libera.chat)- Last seen : (less than two weeks ago) |
2024-01-26 07:14:20 +0100 | <tri> | all 3 alerted |
2024-01-26 07:14:34 +0100 | <EvanR> | tri |
2024-01-26 07:14:36 +0100 | <ski> | interesting |
2024-01-26 07:14:42 +0100 | <ski> | _tri |
2024-01-26 07:14:52 +0100 | <EvanR> | everyone |
2024-01-26 07:14:59 +0100 | <ski> | stalfos |
2024-01-26 07:15:04 +0100 | <tri> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/WdoPcFhp |
2024-01-26 07:15:20 +0100 | <EvanR> | holy crap the indentation |
2024-01-26 07:15:21 +0100 | <tri> | could you guys do a quick code review for me on this please |
2024-01-26 07:15:36 +0100 | <EvanR> | I have to admit I'm a never nester |
2024-01-26 07:15:37 +0100 | <tri> | so that i can write more idiomatic haskell |
2024-01-26 07:15:49 +0100 | <tri> | really, hmm i think that's from F# habit |
2024-01-26 07:16:06 +0100 | <tri> | well im not sure if F# enforces that, i may be blaming it wrongly |
2024-01-26 07:17:00 +0100 | <EvanR> | I'd say make your parser responsible for returning valid data type and don't go through a second round of validation |
2024-01-26 07:17:01 +0100 | <ski> | printPositions positions = V.mapM_ print |
2024-01-26 07:17:06 +0100 | <tri> | anyway, my program is to read a csv file, parse it to records, and print back out |
2024-01-26 07:17:10 +0100 | <ski> | er |
2024-01-26 07:17:16 +0100 | <ski> | printPositions = V.mapM_ print |
2024-01-26 07:17:19 +0100 | <ski> | rather |
2024-01-26 07:17:41 +0100 | <EvanR> | at the point where the parser is used, you can deal with the failure case and be done with it |
2024-01-26 07:17:57 +0100 | <EvanR> | continuing on with the non-Either value |
2024-01-26 07:18:06 +0100 | takuan | (~takuan@178-116-218-225.access.telenet.be) |
2024-01-26 07:18:30 +0100 | <EvanR> | in other words "parse don't validate" :tm: |
2024-01-26 07:19:03 +0100 | <ski> | toPositions rawString = fmap snd (decodeByName (BL8.fromString rawString)) |
2024-01-26 07:19:20 +0100 | <ski> | @where parse-don't-validate |
2024-01-26 07:19:20 +0100 | <lambdabot> | "Parse, don't validate" by lexi-lambda in 2019-11-05 at <https://lexi-lambda.github.io/blog/2019/11/05/parse-don-t-validate/> |
2024-01-26 07:19:58 +0100 | <tri> | EvanR: you are talking about toPositions right? which mean, I should handle the Left case there? wdym by not validate? |
2024-01-26 07:20:13 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
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2024-01-26 07:20:29 +0100 | <ski> | EvanR : fwiw, i always nest module bodies like that |
2024-01-26 07:21:09 +0100 | mulk | (~mulk@p5b112b6b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
2024-01-26 07:21:10 +0100 | <EvanR> | your CSV parser is doing only part of the work to extract the expected data structure |
2024-01-26 07:21:47 +0100 | <EvanR> | if you do that then wait until later on in the program ruby-on-rails-style to check for the rest of the validation, it's especially annoying in haskell |
2024-01-26 07:22:51 +0100 | gabiruh_ | (~gabiruh@vps19177.publiccloud.com.br) |
2024-01-26 07:23:04 +0100 | bilegeek | (~bilegeek@2600:1008:b020:6a16:a1f8:280d:2323:e2f) |
2024-01-26 07:23:07 +0100 | <tri> | EvanR: i don't get what you mean. So you are saying my program shouldn't worry about Left case? |
2024-01-26 07:23:07 +0100 | gabiruh | (~gabiruh@vps19177.publiccloud.com.br) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
2024-01-26 07:23:10 +0100 | <ski> | hm, where's the "validate" here, though ? |
2024-01-26 07:23:17 +0100 | <EvanR> | not sure what decodeByName is doing or how it could fail, but parse don't validate would suggest doing that in the parser |
2024-01-26 07:23:36 +0100 | <tri> | decodeByName is from a library cassava |
2024-01-26 07:23:46 +0100 | <tri> | it returns Either. There is no way i cannot ignore it |
2024-01-26 07:23:55 +0100 | <EvanR> | you start with CSV and want a Vector Position |
2024-01-26 07:24:08 +0100 | <EvanR> | or parse failure |
2024-01-26 07:24:20 +0100 | <tri> | yes that's right |
2024-01-26 07:24:24 +0100 | <ski> | iow `Either (..) (Vector Position)' |
2024-01-26 07:24:33 +0100 | <tri> | so what's the problem |
2024-01-26 07:24:52 +0100 | <EvanR> | I guess nothing |
2024-01-26 07:24:57 +0100 | <tri> | the csv could be non-parsable so there is the left case |
2024-01-26 07:25:04 +0100 | <EvanR> | ok then |
2024-01-26 07:25:06 +0100 | <tri> | otherwise it will parse successfully to Haskell type |
2024-01-26 07:25:17 +0100 | <tri> | no im asking, im not mocking you |
2024-01-26 07:25:37 +0100 | <EvanR> | feel free to mock me because looks basically like you already are doing it |
2024-01-26 07:25:47 +0100 | <EvanR> | one parse step I mean |
2024-01-26 07:26:07 +0100 | <tri> | wait so what you said earlier is still valid? |
2024-01-26 07:26:31 +0100 | <tri> | because now you seem to agree with me what im doing, but earlier so said something about my parser shouldn't do validation |
2024-01-26 07:27:47 +0100 | <EvanR> | I thought the parser was elsewhere |
2024-01-26 07:28:39 +0100 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) |
2024-01-26 07:28:56 +0100 | <EvanR> | so in the business logic, case analysis on the result of toPosition <string> solves it |
2024-01-26 07:29:27 +0100 | <EvanR> | in the Right section, you no longer deal with Either |
2024-01-26 07:29:41 +0100 | <tri> | ah i see |
2024-01-26 07:29:51 +0100 | <tri> | yes I agree with you about that poitn |
2024-01-26 07:30:04 +0100 | <tri> | keeping the parser free from other responsiblities |
2024-01-26 07:30:36 +0100 | <ski> | tri : you saw my other two suggestions ? |
2024-01-26 07:30:38 +0100 | <tri> | ski: you mentioned mapM_ instead of forM_ |
2024-01-26 07:30:52 +0100 | <tri> | i was about to reply to you |
2024-01-26 07:30:53 +0100 | <tri> | sorry |
2024-01-26 07:30:55 +0100 | <tri> | anyway |
2024-01-26 07:30:57 +0100 | <ski> | and `fmap' (or `<$>' if you prefer) |
2024-01-26 07:31:08 +0100 | <tri> | yea i know about mapM_ and forM_ |
2024-01-26 07:31:15 +0100 | <tri> | i just read about them yesterday |
2024-01-26 07:31:28 +0100 | <tri> | they are basically the same, with flip args |
2024-01-26 07:31:46 +0100 | <ski> | (you could still use `where', if you want to name `content'. and you could use a lambda if you want to name `header' and `v' as well) |
2024-01-26 07:31:51 +0100 | <ski> | yes |
2024-01-26 07:32:55 +0100 | FinnElija | (~finn_elij@user/finn-elija/x-0085643) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2024-01-26 07:33:04 +0100 | <tri> | well i have a thought from forM_ and mapM_ |
2024-01-26 07:33:37 +0100 | FinnElija | (~finn_elij@user/finn-elija/x-0085643) |
2024-01-26 07:33:43 +0100 | <tri> | i only know about them because i read the Foldable (or Traversable) chapter in a book |
2024-01-26 07:33:57 +0100 | <ski> | yes ? |
2024-01-26 07:33:57 +0100 | <tri> | and i know they are the same with flipped args |
2024-01-26 07:34:19 +0100 | <tri> | but without reading that book, and without you pointing out mapM_ equivalent to forM_ |
2024-01-26 07:34:29 +0100 | <tri> | how do i know about that |
2024-01-26 07:34:44 +0100 | <ski> | you pick it up, after a while |
2024-01-26 07:34:58 +0100 | <tri> | and i think forM or mapM is from typeclass Foldable or something |
2024-01-26 07:35:01 +0100 | <EvanR> | mapM is listed in the Control.Monad utility docs |
2024-01-26 07:35:11 +0100 | <ski> | `Traversable' |
2024-01-26 07:35:11 +0100 | <EvanR> | or used to be before Foldable |
2024-01-26 07:35:16 +0100 | <EvanR> | Traverable |
2024-01-26 07:36:02 +0100 | <tri> | yea my thought in general is there are pieces of good stuff like these that i can't find else where, other than fortuniately someone points me to it |
2024-01-26 07:36:17 +0100 | <tri> | in other word, luck and experience |
2024-01-26 07:36:20 +0100 | <ski> | .. hanging around in this channel helps |
2024-01-26 07:36:55 +0100 | <tri> | yea, so that's why i worded it as thought, not a question. Because I kinda know the answer already |
2024-01-26 07:36:57 +0100 | <EvanR> | along with other handy monad stuff... forever, sequence, join, filterM, zipWithM, replicateM... |
2024-01-26 07:37:11 +0100 | <EvanR> | some of which got generalized |
2024-01-26 07:37:26 +0100 | <tri> | oh i think i know a better way to word it |
2024-01-26 07:37:59 +0100 | <tri> | if i want to do something in C#, even though idk the actual method, i can just search my idea on google and i will know what i need |
2024-01-26 07:38:10 +0100 | <EvanR> | it's great that documentation i haskell exists, coming from other areas which don't value it for whatever reason xD |
2024-01-26 07:38:10 +0100 | <tri> | but here in haskell, like that forM and mapM |
2024-01-26 07:38:29 +0100 | <EvanR> | compares favorably |
2024-01-26 07:38:30 +0100 | <tri> | i would never think about there is an equivalent flipping function like these 2 |
2024-01-26 07:38:48 +0100 | <EvanR> | @src forM_ |
2024-01-26 07:38:48 +0100 | <lambdabot> | forM_ = flip mapM_ |
2024-01-26 07:39:00 +0100 | rosco | (~rosco@175.136.156.77) |
2024-01-26 07:39:08 +0100 | <tri> | in other words, in C# iam comfortable to research what i don't know |
2024-01-26 07:39:16 +0100 | <tri> | but haskell, i don't know what i dont know |
2024-01-26 07:39:27 +0100 | <tri> | anw, the asnwer is just expereince :) |
2024-01-26 07:39:39 +0100 | <EvanR> | haskell does have a lot of stuff on stack overflow if that's what you consider the way to learn xD |
2024-01-26 07:39:55 +0100 | <EvanR> | but experimentation and documentation goes a long way after you have the basics |
2024-01-26 07:39:59 +0100 | <ski> | how would you search for similar variants of operations, in C#, if you didn't suspect there to be variants ? |
2024-01-26 07:40:53 +0100 | acidjnk_new | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e737e7740dc421a1b52e3505.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
2024-01-26 07:41:49 +0100 | <EvanR> | there's this thing with knowing true names. Maybe you never heard of mapM_ or forM_ but if you knew Control.Monad that leads to the next level via haddocks |
2024-01-26 07:41:56 +0100 | azimut | (~azimut@gateway/tor-sasl/azimut) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2024-01-26 07:41:59 +0100 | <EvanR> | in some idealized setting |
2024-01-26 07:42:19 +0100 | azimut | (~azimut@gateway/tor-sasl/azimut) |
2024-01-26 07:42:58 +0100 | <tri> | ski: i just tried that fmap snd and that's really interseting |
2024-01-26 07:43:16 +0100 | <tri> | i read about it, but applying it feels really good |
2024-01-26 07:43:31 +0100 | <EvanR> | also Prelude docs lists everything you can say without importing anything |
2024-01-26 07:43:59 +0100 | <EvanR> | but you'll never know if you don't know "Prelude" |
2024-01-26 07:44:06 +0100 | ski | idly wonders about arithmetic on Calkin-Wilf |
2024-01-26 07:44:46 +0100 | <ski> | @src Either fmap |
2024-01-26 07:44:46 +0100 | <lambdabot> | fmap _ (Left x) = Left x |
2024-01-26 07:44:47 +0100 | <lambdabot> | fmap f (Right y) = Right (f y) |
2024-01-26 07:46:03 +0100 | <tri> | yea that fmap is really cool! |
2024-01-26 07:46:06 +0100 | <tri> | anyway |
2024-01-26 07:46:09 +0100 | <tri> | im going to bed now |
2024-01-26 07:46:12 +0100 | <tri> | 1:30am alrady |
2024-01-26 07:46:28 +0100 | <tri> | thanks for the help guys |
2024-01-26 07:48:25 +0100 | <ski> | good night, pleasant dreams |
2024-01-26 07:48:30 +0100 | <ski> | and don't forget to have fun ! |
2024-01-26 08:04:41 +0100 | <xacktm> | ty for updated wiwik links, seems original has been down for 1.5 years, but these copies are nice alternatives |
2024-01-26 08:07:19 +0100 | <ski> | np |
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2024-01-26 12:03:36 +0100 | <albet70> | could we say CPS always return a Cont r a? |
2024-01-26 12:06:09 +0100 | <kuribas`> | b |
2024-01-26 12:06:52 +0100 | <c_wraith> | if you wanted to be really loose with the definition of "return", I suppose |
2024-01-26 12:09:22 +0100 | <c_wraith> | If you wanted to be more precise, you could say something like "in CPS style, functions end with a tail call to an extra parameter instead of returning a value" |
2024-01-26 12:10:17 +0100 | <c_wraith> | Which is a bit weird of a definition, talking about tail calls.. But it turns out that's actually important. |
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2024-01-26 13:02:43 +0100 | <mxs> | can we do constraint polymorphism without the "constraints" package with QuantifiedConstraints? something like |
2024-01-26 13:02:45 +0100 | <mxs> | forall i k v (c :: Constraint). Task c k v -> Store i k v -> v |
2024-01-26 13:04:25 +0100 | <[Leary]> | mxs: That doesn't even need QuantifiedConstraints, only ConstraintKinds. |
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2024-01-26 13:16:25 +0100 | <mxs> | [Leary]: it does indeed if I use the correct kind: (c :: (Type -> Type) -> Constraint) lol. thank you |
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2024-01-26 14:34:25 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 15<Jade> ghci is kinda scuffed |
2024-01-26 14:34:45 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 15<Jade> ``` |
2024-01-26 14:34:46 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 15<Jade> :run print$1 ) -- lol |
2024-01-26 14:34:48 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 15<Jade> 1 |
2024-01-26 14:34:49 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 15<Jade> ``` |
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2024-01-26 15:02:23 +0100 | <_________> | @Jade that's because ghci does 'System.Environment.withArgs [")","--","lol"] (print$1)'; you can verify this with ':run System.Environment.getArgs>>=print ) -- lol' |
2024-01-26 15:02:23 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Sorry, look up one word at a time please. |
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2024-01-26 15:35:11 +0100 | tomsmeding | wonders what command lambdabot interpreted that as |
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2024-01-26 16:06:44 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 15<Jade> yeah I know that's why I noticed it ^^ |
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2024-01-26 16:06:54 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | 15<Jade> I've been writing some ghci stuff |
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2024-01-26 20:31:20 +0100 | fpstudent | (~fpstudent@80.233.51.182) |
2024-01-26 20:33:22 +0100 | <fpstudent> | Hi I have to create a web proxy for my networks class, I would like to use haskell to do it but I have never used third party libraries do we have something good for that purpose or should I stick with java? |
2024-01-26 20:36:07 +0100 | <Clint> | there are libraries |
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2024-01-26 22:35:53 +0100 | <juri_> | so, is hspec drunk, or am i going insane? i use a property test to find a testcase that breaks after 1 test (2 shrinks). great, i'll go the function that is throwing error, and try to make it dump in the first recursion, instead of the second. ok, success, it stops in the first recursion, rather than the second, in test case 1 (2 shrinks)... but... the random values are different. even tho i'm specifying a |
2024-01-26 22:35:59 +0100 | <juri_> | seed manually. when i stop on recursion 1, i get one set of random values, but when i stop on the second, i get a second set of random values. even tho both times, error is called after 1 test and 2 shrinks. |
2024-01-26 22:36:20 +0100 | juri_ | gives up, and writes a unit test. |
2024-01-26 22:36:43 +0100 | <juri_> | sooo close to being useful. |
2024-01-26 22:36:54 +0100 | <juri_> | missed it by ><. |
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2024-01-26 23:33:07 +0100 | igemnace | (~ian@user/igemnace) |
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2024-01-26 23:36:00 +0100 | lovasko | (~lovasko@213.55.225.33) |
2024-01-26 23:37:56 +0100 | <lovasko> | hello - I am having trouble working out the types. I have a function that takes the MutableByteArray# as its argument, into which an FFI function is writing. To ensure non-deletion by GC, I need to wrap the FFI call with keepAlive#, presumably using the realWorld# state, or somehow extracting it from IO... my current version that does not work goes |
2024-01-26 23:37:57 +0100 | <lovasko> | something like this: ret <- keepAlive# array realWorld# (c_read array len) |
2024-01-26 23:38:01 +0100 | <shapr> | juri_: it's probably the shrinking code |
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2024-01-26 23:51:28 +0100 | RemiYuko | AkechiShiro |
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