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2024-01-20 02:38:14 +0000 <yogansh> Are summer of haskell and google summer of code diffrent programs?
2024-01-20 02:39:03 +0000 <geekosaur> yes
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2024-01-20 02:39:26 +0000 <geekosaur> summer of haskell started when we failed to get any GSoC projects accepted one year
2024-01-20 02:40:30 +0000 <yogansh> I very new to learning haskell. I was thinking of enhancing my skills by applying to one of these programs. Which one should I aim for?
2024-01-20 02:41:53 +0000 <geekosaur> I'd say look at both, it's less which program than which project
2024-01-20 02:45:27 +0000 <yogansh> thanks, I will try my best
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2024-01-20 09:27:33 +0000 <Silver_X> anyone there?
2024-01-20 09:28:00 +0000 <Franciman> yep
2024-01-20 09:28:02 +0000 <Franciman> hi Silver_X
2024-01-20 09:28:21 +0000 <Silver_X> hey guys Im a beginner and just starting out so I need some guidance
2024-01-20 09:28:57 +0000 <Silver_X> Ive recently downloaded some PDFs and don't know where to begin
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2024-01-20 09:30:21 +0000 <Silver_X> Real World haskell and LYAHFG , beacause that was suggested on a course I saw called cis1940. Would that be a good place to begin ??
2024-01-20 09:32:24 +0000 <Silver_X> apologise its CIS194
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2024-01-20 14:40:45 +0000 <duncan> LYAHFG doesn't have exercises, RWH is good but I wouldn't say it's a beginner's textbook
2024-01-20 14:41:05 +0000 <duncan> The one the University of Edinburgh recommended, which has exercises, is called "The Craft of Functional Programming"
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2024-01-20 14:44:12 +0000 <tinjamin> gm haskellers
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2024-01-20 14:45:25 +0000 <tinjamin> thought i found a study companion 🤧
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2024-01-20 17:13:03 +0000 <shapr> oh, this place again?
2024-01-20 17:13:07 +0000 <shapr> Did I miss anything exciting?
2024-01-20 17:13:15 +0000 <shapr> everyone busy reducing graphs in their sleep?
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2024-01-20 17:14:04 +0000 <shapr> I'm still interested in efficient graph reduction on commodity hardware.
2024-01-20 17:14:15 +0000 <shapr> I don't think the Reduceron will suddenly gain a bunch of developer support.
2024-01-20 17:14:34 +0000euleritian(~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2024-01-20 17:14:55 +0000 <shapr> I wonder if the surge in matrix multiplication hardware for AI training could be used for graph reduction somehow?
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2024-01-20 17:20:53 +0000 <Franciman> shapr: working on fully lazy sharing
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2024-01-20 17:21:25 +0000 <shapr> Franciman: how's that going?
2024-01-20 17:21:51 +0000 <Franciman> i'm trying to prove some complexity bounds
2024-01-20 17:21:55 +0000 <Franciman> no idea
2024-01-20 17:21:58 +0000 <Franciman> how to do that lol
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2024-01-20 17:22:17 +0000 <Franciman> but the idea is to prove that fully lazy sharing is not so hard and almost comes for free, with a new technique my professor developed
2024-01-20 17:22:40 +0000ChaiTRex(~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex)
2024-01-20 17:22:45 +0000 <Franciman> almost comes for free when you are implementing call by need, that is
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2024-01-20 17:25:26 +0000 <shapr> Franciman: you have my interest, is there a paper published by your professor?
2024-01-20 17:25:57 +0000 <Franciman> not yet, we are working on it. But it is very simple
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2024-01-20 17:27:02 +0000 <Franciman> usually computing the skeleton of a term is done using quadratic algorithms in the size of the term, he used a technique from graphs to lower it to linear time
2024-01-20 17:27:09 +0000euleritian(~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2024-01-20 17:27:18 +0000 <Franciman> and told me: check that this technique makes the asymptotic complexity of the new abstract machine unchanged
2024-01-20 17:27:40 +0000 <Franciman> i mean, this is nothing fancy
2024-01-20 17:27:47 +0000 <Franciman> just a longer exercise
2024-01-20 17:28:33 +0000 <shapr> I am very interested, where do I subscribe to updates? :-D
2024-01-20 17:29:00 +0000 <Franciman> ah i think there is a paper using a different technique by kesner
2024-01-20 17:29:16 +0000 <Franciman> https://www.irif.fr/~kesner//papers/Node-Replication.pdf
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2024-01-20 17:31:30 +0000 <shapr> thanks!
2024-01-20 17:33:16 +0000 <shapr> I've discussed optimal lambda calculus reduction with aheller several times, too bad he's not here at the moment.
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2024-01-20 17:39:28 +0000 <Franciman> shapr: are you familiar with beniamino accattoli's work?
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2024-01-20 17:49:49 +0000 <shapr> Franciman: I am not
2024-01-20 17:50:04 +0000 <Franciman> my work is on that line
2024-01-20 17:50:11 +0000 <Franciman> i mean the thing i'm working on now
2024-01-20 17:50:13 +0000HikariNee(~HikariNee@49.43.5.189)
2024-01-20 17:50:31 +0000 <Franciman> they developed a pretty cool framework for analysing abstract machines for various lambda calculi
2024-01-20 17:50:43 +0000 <Franciman> actually the framework connects the high level definition with the abstract machines implementing them
2024-01-20 17:50:59 +0000 <shapr> oh interesting
2024-01-20 17:51:12 +0000 <Franciman> i suggest distilling abstract machines
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2024-01-20 17:51:27 +0000 <Franciman> https://arxiv.org/abs/1406.2370
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2024-01-20 17:54:12 +0000 <shapr> Franciman: thanks, I got distracted in that person's google scholar page
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