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2023-12-25 14:05:33 +0100 <erina> @help pl
2023-12-25 14:05:34 +0100 <lambdabot> pointless <expr>. Play with pointfree code.
2023-12-25 14:05:56 +0100 <erina> @pl getLines >>= \ss -> print (sum $ map (calibrate . digits) ss)
2023-12-25 14:05:56 +0100 <lambdabot> print . sum . map (calibrate . digits) =<< getLines
2023-12-25 14:11:03 +0100 <juri_> mm. anyone here doing AI work, in haskell?
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2023-12-25 14:13:54 +0100 <duncan> There are fairly good tensorflow bindings but all of the other stuff which is important (e.g. equivalent of data-frame, and all the functions around that for transformation, regression) just aren't really there
2023-12-25 14:20:01 +0100 <juri_> fun.
2023-12-25 14:21:15 +0100 <haskellbridge> 05<i​rregularsphere> wait did the bridge not work all this time
2023-12-25 14:21:28 +0100 <haskellbridge> 05<i​rregularsphere> or did noone say anything during christmas eve
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2023-12-25 14:26:02 +0100 <Inst> read your blog post, monochrom, thanks for the education
2023-12-25 14:26:11 +0100 <Inst> catch is to be avoided, i'm still not really familiar with haskell's exception system :(
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2023-12-25 14:54:49 +0100 <Ellenor> / 223
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2023-12-25 15:24:22 +0100 <EvanR> Inst, catching a specific exception is a thing you could possibly want to do, usually it's not though
2023-12-25 15:24:33 +0100 <EvanR> e.g. you try to open a file but it doesn't exist
2023-12-25 15:24:35 +0100 <Inst> doing network requests
2023-12-25 15:24:49 +0100 <Inst> what I want in Base 4.24: HTTP in base libraries
2023-12-25 15:24:53 +0100 <Inst> we're at 4.19 now, no?
2023-12-25 15:25:10 +0100 <EvanR> you try to open a file but it might not exist, but you don't want it to crash
2023-12-25 15:25:25 +0100 <EvanR> so there's an exception for that you can catch
2023-12-25 15:27:07 +0100 <Inst> you try to open a network file but it might not transmit properly, so there's an exceptino for that that you can catch
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2023-12-25 15:53:34 +0100 <mniip> the linux kernel ABI has a terrible exception handling story (because old C times) that leaks into every single programming language as a result
2023-12-25 15:56:32 +0100 <mniip> the errno enum is effectively open (there's no way you'd handle every single code). You never know which codes a particular syscall may return, partly because third party drivers might have a say in it
2023-12-25 15:56:49 +0100 <mniip> for similar reasons a given errno code may not mean what you expect
2023-12-25 15:57:24 +0100 <mniip> a fresh example from memory is `execve` returning ENOENT when the executable doesn't exist *or* when its dynamic linker (program interpreter) doesn't exist
2023-12-25 15:58:28 +0100 <Franciman> is it planned to have a formal semantics for standard haskell?
2023-12-25 15:59:14 +0100 <mniip> I don't think it's planned to have a standard haskell
2023-12-25 15:59:21 +0100 <mniip> there are no longer multiple competing implementations
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2023-12-25 16:01:58 +0100 <Franciman> oh nice, does ghc have a formal semantics?
2023-12-25 16:06:47 +0100 <erina> I have a getLines :: IO [String], I want to run fun :: String -> IO () on each of the elements, is there an elegant way
2023-12-25 16:07:32 +0100 <ncf> traverse_ fun =<< getLines
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2023-12-25 16:09:37 +0100 <erina> ncf, IO is not a traversible, I guess I need to fmap it?
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2023-12-25 16:10:32 +0100 <Franciman> :t traverse_
2023-12-25 16:10:33 +0100 <lambdabot> (Foldable t, Applicative f) => (a -> f b) -> t a -> f ()
2023-12-25 16:11:10 +0100 <ncf> erina: this isn't traversing an IO, it's traversing a [String] in IO
2023-12-25 16:11:37 +0100 <erina> :t traverse
2023-12-25 16:11:38 +0100 <lambdabot> (Traversable t, Applicative f) => (a -> f b) -> t a -> f (t b)
2023-12-25 16:11:51 +0100 <Franciman> :t \x -> (traverse_ x =<< getLines)
2023-12-25 16:11:52 +0100 <lambdabot> error:
2023-12-25 16:11:52 +0100 <lambdabot> • Variable not in scope: getLines :: m (t0 a)
2023-12-25 16:11:52 +0100 <lambdabot> • Perhaps you meant one of these:
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2023-12-25 16:12:13 +0100 <erina> getLines is a hand-written hacky function
2023-12-25 16:12:28 +0100 <ncf> :t \fun getLines -> traverse_ fun =<< getLines
2023-12-25 16:12:29 +0100 <lambdabot> (Monad m, Foldable t) => (a -> m b) -> m (t a) -> m ()
2023-12-25 16:12:53 +0100 <ncf> m := IO, t := [], a := String, b := ()
2023-12-25 16:13:11 +0100 <erina> Oh, I understood, the IO is unwrapped with =<<
2023-12-25 16:14:10 +0100 <erina> Lost my sanity for a sec
2023-12-25 16:14:46 +0100 <mniip> "unwrapped" is not a good way to call it
2023-12-25 16:19:57 +0100 <erina> Is "extracted" a good way then? The value is never moved out from a IO. That's for sure.
2023-12-25 16:20:36 +0100 <mniip> also no
2023-12-25 16:21:24 +0100 <xerox> sequenced with
2023-12-25 16:23:54 +0100 <erina> :t curry
2023-12-25 16:23:55 +0100 <lambdabot> ((a, b) -> c) -> a -> b -> c
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2023-12-25 22:00:02 +0100 <haskellbridge> 15<J​ade> when I have an application that relies heavily on a type which is an instance of `MonadIO` as well as IO, do I just wrap everything in that type and use `liftIO` when appropriate?
2023-12-25 22:00:17 +0100 <haskellbridge> 15<J​ade> I think monad transformers would make that easier, but I'm not sure how to work with them
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2023-12-25 22:49:31 +0100 <monochrom> In that case, liftIO is always type-correct.
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2023-12-25 22:50:19 +0100 <monochrom> Most monad transformers still require you to say "liftIO" all the time.
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2023-12-25 22:51:33 +0100 <monochrom> Actually, s/most/all existing/
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2023-12-25 22:53:21 +0100 <haskellbridge> 15<J​ade> okay, should I consider something like lifted base, or is that too much overhead for too little reward?
2023-12-25 22:55:00 +0100 <monochrom> That sounds like you don't know what is the extra thing lifted base does that liftIO doesn't. Corollary: You have not needed that extra thing, so you don't need it.
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2023-12-25 22:56:10 +0100 <haskellbridge> 15<J​ade> haha okay
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2023-12-25 22:56:19 +0100 <haskellbridge> 15<J​ade> thanks!
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