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2023-11-30 02:31:07 +0100 <bratwurst> does anyone here know much about ihp development?
2023-11-30 02:31:27 +0100pandry(~Pandry@93-41-34-64.ip79.fastwebnet.it) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2023-11-30 02:33:26 +0100 <bratwurst> i'm wondering where devenv comes from. nix doesn't have it, pacman doesn't have it and aur doesn't have it
2023-11-30 02:39:26 +0100 <bratwurst> ok. figured it out. sorry new to nix still
2023-11-30 02:40:51 +0100 <jackdk> Sorry, I only know enough to wish that it played nicer outside of its own world
2023-11-30 02:41:22 +0100 <jackdk> I'm glad you figured it out though
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2023-11-30 15:25:26 +0100thegeekinside(~thegeekin@189.180.53.210)
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2023-11-30 19:27:11 +0100 <hippoid> in the attoparsec docs https://hackage.haskell.org/package/attoparsec-0.14.4/docs/Data-Attoparsec-ByteString.html#g:3 it says "Use the ByteString-oriented parsers whenever possible, e.g. takeWhile1 instead of many1 anyWord8" --- I don't understand the distinction. what are the bytestring-oriented parsers and how do they differ from the ones that arent?
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2023-11-30 19:30:01 +0100 <geekosaur> a ByteString is a native array of Word8. the ByteString-oriented parsers know this and will avoid unpacking it into [Word8], whereas `many anyWord8` must unpack them
2023-11-30 19:30:14 +0100 <int-e> hippoid: Well takeWhile1 operates on a character at a time so it becomes a single tight loop. `many1` has to deal with parsers that consume chunks of arbitrary length
2023-11-30 19:31:35 +0100jorik808(~jorik808@d51A48920.access.telenet.be) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2023-11-30 19:32:16 +0100 <int-e> And I guess it says "ByteString-oriented" because for the `takeWhile1` example it actually uses ByteString's `takeWhile` internally, rather than peeking at characters individually.
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2023-11-30 19:39:53 +0100 <hippoid> ok, i see. some parsers like `many1` end up creating a list, which is slow compared to using the native array.
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2023-11-30 19:44:16 +0100 <int-e> oh right, the result would be bigger than necessary too
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2023-11-30 20:18:38 +0100 <zzz> isn't it possible to patter match on ByteStrings as if they were [Char] ?
2023-11-30 20:18:44 +0100 <zzz> *pattern
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2023-11-30 20:21:50 +0100 <L29Ah> it is
2023-11-30 20:22:31 +0100 <L29Ah> except you can't match prefixes/tails as it's not a list
2023-11-30 20:23:37 +0100 <iqubic> Hmm... I'm wondering if I should switch parser Libraries for AoC. I've been using Megaparsec for the past few years, and I'm wondering if there's a better tool to use.
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2023-11-30 20:28:38 +0100 <jle`> b 3
2023-11-30 20:28:44 +0100 <jle`> whoops
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2023-11-30 20:35:30 +0100 <iqubic> hello!
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2023-11-30 21:04:23 +0100 <haskellbridge> 12<C​elestial> I feel kinda dumb right now
2023-11-30 21:04:37 +0100 <haskellbridge> 12<C​elestial> I wanted to write a version of fix which accumulates the intermediate results
2023-11-30 21:04:49 +0100 <haskellbridge> 12<C​elestial> but I just don't know how lol
2023-11-30 21:04:58 +0100 <haskellbridge> 12<C​elestial> `accFix :: (a -> a) -> [a]`
2023-11-30 21:05:06 +0100 <haskellbridge> 12<C​elestial> wait that's not how it works
2023-11-30 21:05:11 +0100 <int-e> :t iterate
2023-11-30 21:05:11 +0100 <ncf> :t iterate
2023-11-30 21:05:13 +0100 <lambdabot> (a -> a) -> a -> [a]
2023-11-30 21:05:23 +0100 <haskellbridge> 12<C​elestial> yeah you need a starting seed
2023-11-30 21:05:53 +0100 <haskellbridge> 12<C​elestial> thanks
2023-11-30 21:06:39 +0100 <ncf> fix f = iterate f ⊥ !! ω
2023-11-30 21:07:01 +0100 <sclv> exercise: write iterate in terms of fix
2023-11-30 21:08:25 +0100 <ncf> @src iterate
2023-11-30 21:08:25 +0100 <lambdabot> iterate f x = x : iterate f (f x)
2023-11-30 21:09:06 +0100 <ncf> hmm... iterate f x = x : map f (iterate f x)
2023-11-30 21:09:15 +0100 <ncf> then my definition has a chance of working
2023-11-30 21:09:35 +0100 <ncf> ω = suc ω
2023-11-30 21:10:03 +0100 <mauke> iterate f x = fix (pure x) : iterate f (f x)
2023-11-30 21:11:37 +0100 <int-e> ncf: the `map` version produces more distinct thunks though
2023-11-30 21:12:36 +0100 <ncf> then fix f = iterate f ⊥ !! ω = iterate f ⊥ !! suc ω = map f (iterate f x) !! ω -- so the last missing piece is some rewrite rule from that to f (iterate f x !! ω)
2023-11-30 21:13:11 +0100 <tomsmeding> if you have (!!) :: [a] -> Nat -> a, where data Nat = Z | S Nat, then that would be easy
2023-11-30 21:13:13 +0100 <ncf> er s/x/⊥/
2023-11-30 21:13:21 +0100 <int-e> > let iterate f x = x : map f (iterate f x) in sum $ take 1000000 $ iterate succ 1
2023-11-30 21:13:26 +0100 <tomsmeding> as in, you'd get something that typechecks
2023-11-30 21:13:28 +0100 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
2023-11-30 21:13:32 +0100 <int-e> > sum $ take 1000000 $ iterate succ 1
2023-11-30 21:13:34 +0100 <lambdabot> 500000500000
2023-11-30 21:13:40 +0100 <tomsmeding> not something that ever produces anything useful :p
2023-11-30 21:14:00 +0100 <tomsmeding> oh wait
2023-11-30 21:14:11 +0100tomsmedingdumb, ignore
2023-11-30 21:14:19 +0100 <int-e> Hmm. Actually the compiler has a chance to do better though.
2023-11-30 21:14:22 +0100 <ncf> tomsmeding: i was assuming that
2023-11-30 21:14:35 +0100alp_(~alp@2001:861:e3d6:8f80:5320:a0af:5fbb:fa76) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2023-11-30 21:14:46 +0100 <int-e> > let iterate f x = fix ((x :) . map f) in sum $ take 1000000 $ iterate succ 1
2023-11-30 21:14:47 +0100 <lambdabot> 500000500000
2023-11-30 21:15:56 +0100sord937(~sord937@gateway/tor-sasl/sord937) (Quit: sord937)
2023-11-30 21:16:55 +0100 <int-e> map f xs !! n = f (xs !! n) is morally correct? :)
2023-11-30 21:17:40 +0100 <int-e> (but the rhs is non-bottom more often than the lhs is)
2023-11-30 21:18:22 +0100 <int-e> in context you know that xs is infinite, so assuming n >= 0, !! doesn't fail, and the rule just works
2023-11-30 21:19:18 +0100 <dolio> Using n = ω is not morally correct.
2023-11-30 21:20:58 +0100mechap(~mechap@user/mechap)
2023-11-30 21:21:09 +0100Guest|32(~Guest|32@ruth-10-b2-v4wan-167633-cust316.vm40.cable.virginm.net)
2023-11-30 21:21:21 +0100 <ncf> why not?
2023-11-30 21:21:36 +0100 <dolio> Because (!!) is recursion over it.
2023-11-30 21:21:57 +0100 <ncf> now it's transfinite recursion :)
2023-11-30 21:21:59 +0100 <dolio> Tail recursion, even.
2023-11-30 21:22:06 +0100 <dolio> So the answer is ⊥.
2023-11-30 21:23:21 +0100 <ncf> hence the rewrite rule
2023-11-30 21:23:22 +0100 <dolio> 'Morally correct' is supposed to be when you're writing things that would be valid total functions, and only considering the well defined cases. Not just arbitrarily transforming things to be more defined.
2023-11-30 21:23:39 +0100 <int-e> oh omega, I thought it was just a variable, my bad
2023-11-30 21:24:40 +0100 <ncf> dolio: ok you might have a point
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2023-11-30 21:25:01 +0100 <zzz> how do i `read` from Text instead of String?
2023-11-30 21:25:59 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com)
2023-11-30 21:27:31 +0100dcoutts(~duncan@cpc69402-oxfd27-2-0-cust903.4-3.cable.virginm.net)
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2023-11-30 21:33:52 +0100 <geekosaur> if you insist on using `read` instead of a proper parser, convert the `Text` to `String` (`T.unpack`)
2023-11-30 21:34:43 +0100eggplantade(~Eggplanta@2600:1700:38c5:d800:4593:1157:cf3d:65e4)
2023-11-30 21:35:12 +0100mobivme(~mobivme@112.201.111.217)
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2023-11-30 21:35:41 +0100 <zzz> geekosaur: what's a proper parser? i just want to convert text to my type without having to write all the cases
2023-11-30 21:35:43 +0100 <geekosaur> (you shouldn't really use `read` even with `String`: it's slow, it's stupid, it throws a useless exception if it fails for any reason)
2023-11-30 21:36:22 +0100 <zzz> right
2023-11-30 21:36:56 +0100 <zzz> well, guess i'll write a Text -> MyType then
2023-11-30 21:37:10 +0100 <int-e> > read ('"' : repeat ' ') :: Int
2023-11-30 21:37:16 +0100 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
2023-11-30 21:37:37 +0100 <int-e> (my favorite example of `read` being stupid)
2023-11-30 21:38:05 +0100 <dminuoso_> int-e: I dont thinks stupid, its just very poorly abused.
2023-11-30 21:38:17 +0100dcoutts(~duncan@cpc69402-oxfd27-2-0-cust903.4-3.cable.virginm.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2023-11-30 21:38:22 +0100 <dminuoso_> For lack of an alternative.
2023-11-30 21:38:25 +0100tromp(~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2023-11-30 21:38:41 +0100 <Clint> what would be a way to abuse it well?
2023-11-30 21:39:07 +0100 <int-e> dminuoso_: I mean, you're readin an integer. Your first input character is a double quote. What do you do, reject, or keep looking at the remainder of the string?
2023-11-30 21:39:19 +0100eggplantade(~Eggplanta@2600:1700:38c5:d800:4593:1157:cf3d:65e4) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2023-11-30 21:39:19 +0100 <dminuoso_> Clint: readMaybe.
2023-11-30 21:39:36 +0100 <int-e> dminuoso_: I know why it keeps looking, but it's still stupid when you're reading a number.
2023-11-30 21:40:01 +0100tromp(~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl)
2023-11-30 21:40:13 +0100 <geekosaur> still doesn't tell you what went wrong or where if it fails, still doesn't fail early if you tell it to parse a number from a non-numeric string, …
2023-11-30 21:41:11 +0100sadmax(~user@38.158.180.90)
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2023-11-30 21:42:07 +0100 <int-e> And the same thing (going via a Haskell-like lexer) is also a big reason for why `read` is so slow for numbers compared to a direct implementation, even on Strings.
2023-11-30 21:43:25 +0100 <int-e> :t Numeric.readDec
2023-11-30 21:43:26 +0100 <lambdabot> (Eq a, Num a) => ReadS a
2023-11-30 21:44:01 +0100 <int-e> > readSigned readDec "-1"
2023-11-30 21:44:02 +0100 <lambdabot> [(-1,"")]
2023-11-30 21:44:18 +0100 <dminuoso_> At least `read` doesnt go through ghc-lib.
2023-11-30 21:44:41 +0100 <iqubic> Or you can just use Megaparsec, I guess...
2023-11-30 21:44:44 +0100 <int-e> (that will be significantly faster than `read` despite still using ReadS and parsing a String)
2023-11-30 21:46:03 +0100Pickchea(~private@user/pickchea)
2023-11-30 21:46:25 +0100 <iqubic> Should I switch from Megaparsec, or should I just keep using that library for my AoC parsing needs?
2023-11-30 21:47:33 +0100 <mauke> should be fine if you're comfortable with it
2023-11-30 21:48:42 +0100 <iqubic> I am. I'm just wondering if there's something better I could be using.
2023-11-30 21:49:53 +0100 <int-e> it hardly matters for AoC
2023-11-30 21:49:54 +0100 <mauke> there's something worse you could be using :-)
2023-11-30 21:50:02 +0100 <mauke> I did a good chunk of last year's with ReadP
2023-11-30 21:50:37 +0100 <int-e> map words . lines gets you embarassingly far
2023-11-30 21:50:50 +0100 <int-e> or did, in previous years
2023-11-30 21:51:14 +0100 <iqubic> It does...
2023-11-30 21:51:17 +0100euleritian(~euleritia@ip4d16fc38.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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2023-11-30 22:05:04 +0100 <zzz> that's what i do
2023-11-30 22:05:30 +0100shOkEy(~shOkEy@92-249-185-221.pool.digikabel.hu)
2023-11-30 22:06:20 +0100 <zzz> that and this https://paste.jrvieira.com/1701378360205
2023-11-30 22:10:11 +0100jmdaemon(~jmdaemon@user/jmdaemon)
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2023-11-30 22:20:16 +0100 <Guest|32> Hey guys, I'm new to Haskell and was working on some files individually, just testing them out with ghci and when I went to run the full thing using stack I got this error:
2023-11-30 22:20:58 +0100bratwurst(~blaadsfa@2604:3d09:207f:f650:216:3eff:fe5a:a1f8) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2023-11-30 22:21:18 +0100 <Guest|32> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/505370075402862594/1179885151518457876/image.png?ex=657b68a…
2023-11-30 22:21:30 +0100 <Guest|32> No idea what the issue is and I have been testing individual functions and files perfectly fine with ghci so far. If anyone recognises this at all, would be awesome
2023-11-30 22:21:30 +0100 <Guest|32> I think it might be due to my PC username having a space in it and only picking up everything after the space as the filepath but not sure on how to fix this.
2023-11-30 22:21:58 +0100cstml(~cstml@user/cstml) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2023-11-30 22:22:25 +0100 <sadmax> Does this channel have a bridge to discord?
2023-11-30 22:23:42 +0100 <mauke> yes, it's the space
2023-11-30 22:24:38 +0100 <sadmax> oh, radical.
2023-11-30 22:25:34 +0100dsrt^(~dsrt@c-98-242-74-66.hsd1.ga.comcast.net)
2023-11-30 22:27:22 +0100 <[exa]> Guest|32: can you please pastebin errors as text? see /topic for pastebin links. many people can't read screenshots well
2023-11-30 22:28:11 +0100 <[exa]> Guest|32: anyway from what I can see, it is a build system failure; it splits the directory path on a space by mistake
2023-11-30 22:30:22 +0100 <[exa]> Guest|32: btw personally I'd very strongly recommend WSL over trying to run stuff in powershell
2023-11-30 22:31:16 +0100 <Guest|32> oh sorry, here it is: https://pastebin.com/BG1L94nR
2023-11-30 22:31:37 +0100 <Guest|32> how would I sort that out?
2023-11-30 22:32:46 +0100machinedgod(~machinedg@d198-53-218-113.abhsia.telus.net)
2023-11-30 22:32:46 +0100 <[exa]> Guest|32: well as a completely unuseful workaround I'd try to run it in a directory that contains no spaces (C:/temporary/ instead of C:/users/alen reji/...)
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2023-11-30 22:32:57 +0100 <[exa]> but that doesn't fix the actual problem at all
2023-11-30 22:33:00 +0100notzmv(~zmv@user/notzmv)
2023-11-30 22:33:40 +0100 <[exa]> how's that exact package set up? (I tried to google but apparently there are many `connect4` haskell implementations around)
2023-11-30 22:33:52 +0100 <Guest|32> Yea I tried that too XD . I put it on another drive and tried running it there
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2023-11-30 22:35:31 +0100 <[exa]> the usual list of things to check in this case would be 1] check if the package tooling&build config doesn't contain something weird (like a shell script with bad quoting), 2] try on WSL 3] blame stack and try with plain cabal
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2023-11-30 22:42:38 +0100 <Guest|32> https://pastebin.com/MvJHKAHU is the project structure. Unfortunately it is set up to use stack. I'll give it a go on wsl and see. But I think it possibly could be with my installation in that filepath. I installed Haskell and Stack using GHCup.
2023-11-30 22:46:54 +0100peterbecich(~Thunderbi@047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com)
2023-11-30 22:46:59 +0100 <zzz> using Network.Simple.TCP do i need 2 sockets, one for sending and one for receiving data?
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2023-11-30 22:48:03 +0100 <[exa]> Guest|32: ghcup should be okay :]
2023-11-30 22:48:21 +0100 <geekosaur> zzz, no, sockets are bidirectional
2023-11-30 22:49:03 +0100eggplantade(~Eggplanta@2600:1700:38c5:d800:4593:1157:cf3d:65e4)
2023-11-30 22:49:17 +0100 <Guest|32> yea, I tried on a friend's system and everything was fine. Might try uninstall everything and make sure all ghc, stack and cabal folders are gone and then reinstall in the new drive that doesnt have a space in  the name '=D
2023-11-30 22:49:36 +0100 <[exa]> Guest|32: I'd say it's unlikely to be an installation issue
2023-11-30 22:49:58 +0100 <[exa]> literally just that folder...and maybe a slight bug somewhere in windows-supporting code in ghc or stack
2023-11-30 22:55:51 +0100 <[exa]> checked quickly in the ghc code and since this works on other platforms I blame powershell quoting powers. Might not even require WSL; can you try with e.g. git-bash or so? any posix-ish shell should do
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2023-11-30 22:59:16 +0100[exa]-> afk
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2023-11-30 23:04:24 +0100 <Guest|32> gave it a go on git bash, unfortunately same error
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2023-11-30 23:15:15 +0100 <tomsmeding> I think that is because regardless of which shell you're in, your ".stack folder" (as it's called on unix systems) apparently lives in C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming
2023-11-30 23:15:48 +0100 <tomsmeding> and there's apparently a bug somewhere in the chain 'stack <-> ghc <-> c preprocessor' that cannot handle spaces in paths
2023-11-30 23:16:33 +0100coot(~coot@89-69-206-216.dynamic.chello.pl) (Quit: coot)
2023-11-30 23:16:47 +0100 <tomsmeding> Guest|32: can you post the contents of 'C:\Users\Alen Reji\AppData\Roaming\stack\setup-exe-src\setup-shim-9p6GVs8J.hs' ?
2023-11-30 23:17:08 +0100 <tomsmeding> eh no, that won't show anything useful
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2023-11-30 23:18:46 +0100 <tomsmeding> Guest|32: could you post the output of 'stack run --verbose'
2023-11-30 23:19:13 +0100 <tomsmeding> probably still won't show the cpp invocation because that's done by ghc though
2023-11-30 23:20:29 +0100 <tomsmeding> what you could still try is install ghc 9.4.7 using ghcup, and then 'cabal run -w ghc-9.4.7' (or just 'cabal run' if you've set 9.4.7 as the default in ghcup)
2023-11-30 23:20:58 +0100 <tomsmeding> I kind of suspect this is a mingw problem, and if I remember correctly, stack and cabal install the mingw stuff differently
2023-11-30 23:21:20 +0100 <tomsmeding> rather, stack and the ghc bindist installed by ghcup
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2023-11-30 23:24:05 +0100 <tomsmeding> Guest|32: I think this has a high chance of success: instead of 'stack run -- whatever', do 'stack run --stack-root=C:\sr -- whatever'. Equivalently, set the STACK_ROOT environment variable to C:\sr . You can replace C:\sr with any path (on any drive) you want, as long as it's 1. short and 2. doesn't contain spaces
2023-11-30 23:24:51 +0100 <tomsmeding> your default stack root is %AppData%\Roaming, which contains a space, which is what some tooling seems to choke on
2023-11-30 23:26:01 +0100 <Guest|32> sorry im a little late
2023-11-30 23:26:09 +0100 <Guest|32> stack run verbose seems to be installing ghc
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2023-11-30 23:28:06 +0100 <Guest|32> I have a new drive with no spaces in any folders in there. Would the best option be to uninstall haskell and get rid of any ghcup, stack folders and reinstall in the new drive?
2023-11-30 23:32:38 +0100 <tomsmeding> Guest|32: I don't think you need to reinstall anything
2023-11-30 23:33:06 +0100 <tomsmeding> if you want to use stack, then you should know that stack puts all its "stuff" in the "stack root", which for you is that %AppData%\Roaming\stack folder
2023-11-30 23:33:32 +0100 <tomsmeding> you can change that by either supplying --stack-root or setting STACK_ROOT as I described (documentation: https://docs.haskellstack.org/en/stable/stack_root/ )
2023-11-30 23:33:53 +0100 <tomsmeding> I think it's very unlikely that the location of stack, ghc or ghcup _itself_ matters here
2023-11-30 23:34:30 +0100 <tomsmeding> notable is that cabal also puts all of its stuff in a separate folder, but I'm not sure where that is on windows (_might_ be %AppData%\Roaming\cabal if that exists)
2023-11-30 23:36:16 +0100 <tomsmeding> though, stack's "stuff" includes a copy of GHC, so it _will_ be reinstalling a bunch -- just without your involvement
2023-11-30 23:40:00 +0100 <Guest|32> So just to clarify, I need to set the STACK_ROOT variable to another loctaion and it should reinstall everything needed there?
2023-11-30 23:41:30 +0100 <tomsmeding> yeah
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2023-11-30 23:43:24 +0100 <tomsmeding> I'll also check out, that's the downside of getting help from Europeans :p
2023-11-30 23:45:53 +0100 <Guest|32> :')  just doing that rn
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2023-11-30 23:52:01 +0100 <Guest|32> okay unfortunately that didnt work
2023-11-30 23:52:17 +0100notzmv(~zmv@user/notzmv) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2023-11-30 23:52:37 +0100 <Guest|32> I set the environment variable to C:\stack
2023-11-30 23:52:56 +0100 <Guest|32> and also ran stack path --stack-root="C:\stack"
2023-11-30 23:53:34 +0100 <Guest|32> then closed and reopened the terminal and ran stack path --stack-root, which gave me C:\stack as the root
2023-11-30 23:54:08 +0100 <Guest|32> It seems that i have a stack folder also in Local
2023-11-30 23:54:31 +0100 <Guest|32> clang: error: no such file or directory: 'Reji\AppData\Local\Programs\stack\x86_64-windows\ghc-9.4.7\lib\../mingw/include'
2023-11-30 23:54:32 +0100 <Guest|32> C:\stack\setup-exe-src\setup-shim-9p6GVs8J.hs:1:1: error:
2023-11-30 23:54:32 +0100 <Guest|32>     `clang.exe' failed in phase `C pre-processor'. (Exit code: 1)
2023-11-30 23:54:33 +0100 <Guest|32>   |
2023-11-30 23:54:33 +0100 <Guest|32> 1 | {-# LANGUAGE CPP #-}
2023-11-30 23:54:34 +0100 <Guest|32>   | ^
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