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2023-11-23 04:48:58 +0100 <erty> I was able to able to solve my problem by compiling the code instead of using runghc, and now its showing the same error as you guys.
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2023-11-23 12:36:37 +0100 <Guest92> Does each HEC manage their own pool of worker OS threads, or does there exist just one pool of OS worker threads that all HECs are executed by?
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2023-11-23 12:45:47 +0100 <Guest92> Can a thread spawned by forkIO migrate from one HEC to another?
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2023-11-23 12:52:30 +0100 <Guest16> Hi everyone! I am all new to Haskell. I have tried to understand Monads for a few years now trying here and there and I finally starts to get it! I had a few questions about them. The first one is how much do we use them in Haskell is kinda everywhere or more like a few here and there just another tool in the box. Looking at what it does it seems
2023-11-23 12:52:31 +0100 <Guest16> to be so powerful to me.
2023-11-23 12:56:58 +0100 <sm[i]> welcome Guest16. They are used everywhere, but you only need a superficial understanding to be productive. Understanding all their uses takes practice
2023-11-23 12:58:12 +0100 <sm[i]> check it: https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/17yjz58/the_minimal_haskell_needed_to_get_beginner_going…
2023-11-23 13:00:25 +0100 <Guest16> Ok and I was wondering about when to use them compared to amybe something else. Let's say I have a hashmap but I want to improve it but adding stats data or number of hit count vs miss, etc... Will I create a context on top of that hashmap with a monad? Like with I think the writter or reader monad? Or create my own monad? Or Haskell has something
2023-11-23 13:00:25 +0100 <Guest16> else to extend types/data etc?
2023-11-23 13:00:41 +0100 <Guest16> Ah thanks!
2023-11-23 13:01:09 +0100 <haskellbridge> 10<m​aralorn> I encounter again and again situations were IO in one thread blocks other threads. Es there something I can do about this? In this case it’s simply a lot of readFile operations.
2023-11-23 13:01:27 +0100 <sm[i]> you won't create your own monads as a beginner, you'll first learn to use the common ones. The type system will force you to use them when appropriate
2023-11-23 13:01:58 +0100 <haskellbridge> 10<m​aralorn> One thread is reading a lot of files, while the other should be printing progress. But in fact the progress printing stalls until all files are read.
2023-11-23 13:02:43 +0100 <sm[i]> and you won't usually use monads to extend a type, they are used more for things like control flow and logic
2023-11-23 13:03:24 +0100Guest92(~Guest92@ext-1-284.eduroam.chalmers.se) (Quit: Connection closed)
2023-11-23 13:04:19 +0100 <haskellbridge> 06<s​m> maralorn: well I have to ask, did you build it in threaded mode
2023-11-23 13:05:40 +0100 <Guest16> Ah ok and last question how much do we write our monads? A lot? Not very often usually they are like the one already provided? Or almost never the one provided are like canonical and fit all cases kinda?
2023-11-23 13:06:23 +0100 <haskellbridge> 10<m​aralorn> sm: Yeah, obvious question.
2023-11-23 13:06:39 +0100 <sm[i]> Guest16: almost never
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2023-11-23 13:06:48 +0100 <Guest16> I heard someone says that if you do a library you will create a lot but of let's say a CRUD not so much. I don't know what's true
2023-11-23 13:06:56 +0100 <Guest16> Ah ok ok
2023-11-23 13:07:19 +0100 <sm[i]> yes it depends what you are doing, but still almost never
2023-11-23 13:07:29 +0100 <sm[i]> except as an exercise
2023-11-23 13:08:24 +0100 <haskellbridge> 10<m​aralorn> I don’t think I have ever written a Monad for real code by hand. For advanced usecase you take some Monads from the libraries and but them into a newtype, but that’s it.
2023-11-23 13:09:12 +0100mokee(~mokee@37.228.215.150)
2023-11-23 13:09:42 +0100 <Guest16> Hmm ok I see. Is it kind of correct then to say they are like "if" and "else" in a code with some business logic attached to it. You will almost never create your own ifs in a language and just use "if" and "else"?
2023-11-23 13:10:05 +0100L29Ah(~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah)
2023-11-23 13:10:41 +0100 <sm[i]> sure
2023-11-23 13:11:13 +0100 <sm[i]> they're like an if and else construction set. And you just took acid.
2023-11-23 13:11:59 +0100 <ski> sometimes they're described as "programmable semicolon", which isn't too bad of an idea. each monad brings its own notion of "sequencing". for list monad, it corresponds to "loop nesting". for exeption monad, it corresponds to short-circuiting. for state monad, it corresponds to state-passsing/threading style, &c.
2023-11-23 13:13:02 +0100 <Guest16> Yes I start to get it a little bit but I have 0 experience in Haskell. Just reading code and tutorial/guides
2023-11-23 13:13:12 +0100 <Guest16> I have no idea in practice and in design
2023-11-23 13:13:24 +0100 <Guest16> I see well thank you guys!
2023-11-23 13:14:11 +0100 <ski> "Escaping Hell with Monads" by Philip Nilsson in 2017-05-08 at <https://philipnilsson.github.io/Badness10k/escaping-hell-with-monads/> might give you some idea
2023-11-23 13:14:23 +0100danse-nr3(~danse@151.43.218.204) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2023-11-23 13:14:46 +0100 <sm[i]> They are one of many important types used in haskell programs, which become familiar with some time spent programming.
2023-11-23 13:14:58 +0100 <sm[i]> you might also like this book:
2023-11-23 13:15:01 +0100 <sm[i]> @where htac
2023-11-23 13:15:01 +0100 <lambdabot> "Haskell Tutorial and Cookbook" by Mark Watson in 2017-09-04 at <https://leanpub.com/haskell-cookbook>
2023-11-23 13:15:24 +0100 <sm[i]> @where typeclassopedia also
2023-11-23 13:15:24 +0100 <lambdabot> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Typeclassopedia
2023-11-23 13:15:52 +0100 <Guest16> Oh yes these links are looking good. I saw this recently and it definitively clicked
2023-11-23 13:15:54 +0100 <Guest16> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2w45qRc3aU
2023-11-23 13:16:04 +0100__monty__(~toonn@user/toonn)
2023-11-23 13:16:55 +0100 <haskellbridge> 10<m​aralorn> sm: I agrre very much with your question, because it feels exactly like I am not getting real threading. But I use ghc-options: -threaded -with-rtsopts=-maxN2.
2023-11-23 13:17:27 +0100 <haskellbridge> 10<m​aralorn> I also have this issue in different projects of mine.
2023-11-23 13:17:54 +0100 <haskellbridge> 06<s​m> so why this maxN2 thing ? That sounds like it'd be limiting the "capabilities" / thread runners
2023-11-23 13:18:08 +0100 <Guest16> Well thanks again! I will dive into this. Have a great day/night!
2023-11-23 13:18:21 +0100 <sm[i]> good luck Guest16!
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2023-11-23 13:51:26 +0100 <haskellbridge> 10<m​aralorn> sm: My understanding is, that -threaded enables the threaded runtime, but without telling it to use multiple capabilities it will not actually use multiple os threads -N2 or -maxN2 activates using multiple os threads, where the difference is only that -max will ask for less than N os threads, when the system has less than N cores.
2023-11-23 13:51:56 +0100 <haskellbridge> 10<m​aralorn> But I will now raise this to -N16 and see if that fixes it.
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2023-11-23 13:53:01 +0100 <haskellbridge> 10<m​aralorn> Although my understanding of the Haskell runtime is, that multiple OS threads are not even necessary to have IO from one thread not block the others.
2023-11-23 13:57:03 +0100 <ski> yep
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2023-11-23 20:13:50 +0100 <haskellbridge> 14<m​auke> .oO( and check that it terminates )
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2023-11-23 20:21:11 +0100 <haskellbridge> 06<s​m> maralorn: did that help ?
2023-11-23 20:23:34 +0100 <haskellbridge> 10<m​aralorn> Was too busy and failed to multithread. Will report back when I work more on the problem.
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2023-11-23 22:59:06 +0100 <joel135> EvanR: maybe church natural power function is difficult enough?
2023-11-23 23:00:19 +0100 <joel135> (meaning one natural applied to another)
2023-11-23 23:02:04 +0100 <EvanR> ok
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