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2023-11-21 00:20:42 +0100 <Axman6> can we have a dtrace monad please?
2023-11-21 00:21:48 +0100 <duncan> You need to write fan mail to the dtrace devs and resist the urge to ask them if they've ever kissed a girl
2023-11-21 00:22:08 +0100 <duncan> and they will then implement the dtrace monad in mdb
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2023-11-21 01:57:58 +0100 <Axman6> I've actually had discussons with the dtrace devs before... I should learn more about dtrace
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2023-11-21 02:30:54 +0100 <m257> duncan: Who needs girls when you have Haskell?
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2023-11-21 16:51:07 +0100 <Square2> Iirc on can only debug one file at a time in ghci?! If so, are there ways to do full program debugging?
2023-11-21 16:51:14 +0100 <Square2> one can*
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2023-11-21 16:52:51 +0100 <danse-nr3> oh really? That's surprising
2023-11-21 16:54:23 +0100Maxdamantus(~Maxdamant@user/maxdamantus) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2023-11-21 16:54:52 +0100 <Square2> I mean, I could be wrong. Just have some vague memories from a debug session 3-4 years ago.
2023-11-21 16:55:10 +0100 <L29Ah> > breakpoints and single-stepping are only available in interpreted modules; compiled code is invisible to the debugger
2023-11-21 16:55:12 +0100 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:52: error: parse error on input ‘in’
2023-11-21 16:55:32 +0100 <Square2> L29Ah, ah thanks.
2023-11-21 16:56:04 +0100 <Square2> Can you interpret a whole program?
2023-11-21 16:56:53 +0100Maxdamantus(~Maxdamant@user/maxdamantus)
2023-11-21 16:56:55 +0100 <L29Ah> i think you do when you :l the main module
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2023-11-21 16:57:36 +0100 <L29Ah> at least then ghc interprets everything it doesn't find compiled in installed packages afaik
2023-11-21 16:57:54 +0100 <Square2> okok. Sounds promising then.
2023-11-21 16:57:57 +0100 <danse-nr3> why ghci rather than gdb?
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2023-11-21 17:00:40 +0100 <Square2> danse-nr3, have you tried it with Haskell? If so, was it good enough?
2023-11-21 17:01:58 +0100 <geekosaur> re interpreting a whole program, `:main` in ghci or `runghc`
2023-11-21 17:02:17 +0100 <danse-nr3> nope i have not tried it, but it seems to be the go-to solution from the docs https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/users_guide/debug-info.html
2023-11-21 17:03:02 +0100 <geekosaur> gdb still doesn't work that well because it needs a patch to understand ghc's debug information
2023-11-21 17:03:13 +0100 <geekosaur> there's a short remark about it there
2023-11-21 17:03:24 +0100 <danse-nr3> oh i see
2023-11-21 17:03:27 +0100 <geekosaur> (unless you're debugging an FFI call)
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2023-11-21 18:03:39 +0100 <carbolymer> @pl \x -> "txins" <> show x
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2023-11-21 18:47:52 +0100 <erty> For some reason, the $HOME env variable is replaced in first command but not in the second one
2023-11-21 18:48:00 +0100 <erty> λ> (_,b,_,_) <- createProcess $ proc "echo" ["home dir is","$HOME"]
2023-11-21 18:48:00 +0100 <erty> λ> (_,b,_,_) <- createProcess $ shell "echo home dir $HOME"
2023-11-21 18:48:20 +0100 <erty> `:m +System.Process`
2023-11-21 18:48:59 +0100 <erty> *sorry works in later but not in former
2023-11-21 18:49:43 +0100Buggys(Buggys@shelltalk.net)
2023-11-21 18:51:32 +0100 <geekosaur> yes, it's handled by the shell
2023-11-21 18:51:49 +0100 <geekosaur> so if you use `proc` the shell is not involved and environment variables will not be expanded
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2023-11-21 18:55:14 +0100 <erty> geekosaur: thank you for the answer
2023-11-21 18:56:21 +0100 <erty> I was not able figure this out by reading the docs
2023-11-21 18:56:41 +0100tzh(~tzh@c-71-193-181-0.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
2023-11-21 18:56:46 +0100 <geekosaur> right, it's less a Haskell thing than a Unix thing
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2023-11-21 18:58:32 +0100 <erty> geekosaur: I don't understand, how the shell is not involved for `proc`. I ran `proc "env"` and it showed /bin/bash as the shell
2023-11-21 18:59:27 +0100 <erty> I am sorry If I am asking something very basic
2023-11-21 18:59:30 +0100Maxdamantus(~Maxdamant@user/maxdamantus) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2023-11-21 18:59:44 +0100 <erty> :-|
2023-11-21 18:59:48 +0100Maxdamantus(~Maxdamant@user/maxdamantus)
2023-11-21 19:00:37 +0100 <geekosaur> if you specify `proc` then it calls C's `execvp()`. if you specify `shell` then it calls `/bin/sh -c "your command line"`
2023-11-21 19:00:41 +0100 <exarkun> erty: env doesn't know what the shell is
2023-11-21 19:00:46 +0100 <exarkun> erty: env only knows what the environment is
2023-11-21 19:01:09 +0100 <geekosaur> /bin/sh does the environment expansion
2023-11-21 19:01:11 +0100 <exarkun> ❯ SHELL="flying monkeys" env | grep SHELL=
2023-11-21 19:01:13 +0100 <exarkun> SHELL=flying monkeys
2023-11-21 19:02:26 +0100 <exarkun> erty: The shell is the program that reads in commands you type and decides what they mean and then does something about it (like running a loop in process, or launching a new child process).
2023-11-21 19:02:41 +0100 <exarkun> It is generally good at running child processes but it isn't /necessary/ to do so
2023-11-21 19:03:36 +0100 <geekosaur> you generally use `proc` when you want to prevent the shell from expanding special characters like `$`
2023-11-21 19:04:38 +0100sawilagar(~sawilagar@user/sawilagar)
2023-11-21 19:05:45 +0100 <exarkun> And (imo) often you should want that. Haskell (and most languages) are easily capable of controlling most aspects of process creation, so the shell is mostly extra complexity.
2023-11-21 19:05:52 +0100 <geekosaur> anyway this is all Unix/Linux basics; in particular `execvp()` and friends
2023-11-21 19:06:02 +0100 <erty> ...
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2023-11-21 19:11:19 +0100 <erty> geekosaur: thanks for clarifactions and yes I will work on my basics
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2023-11-21 19:16:18 +0100 <sshine> erty, when you run programs through a shell rather than directly, you generally risk shell injection for user input. even with a lot of focus on sanitation, shells are complex and often unnecessary for running programs.
2023-11-21 19:17:46 +0100 <sshine> erty, it's like having a big, unrestricted eval() around all the input :)
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2023-11-21 19:24:13 +0100 <erty> exarkun: I appreciate those details, and I also agree (interms of Haskell) that it can handle process creation. As when I ran some command and it failed, the output was `Just (ExitFailure 127)` which makes things so much easier.
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2023-11-21 19:25:24 +0100 <erty> sshine: I will keep that in my notes :-)
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2023-11-21 19:36:41 +0100 <haskellbridge> 14<m​auke> Perhaps not obvious: the shell is what handles (expands) $vars, I/O redirection with > and friends, as well as wildcards like * and ?
2023-11-21 19:37:41 +0100 <haskellbridge> 14<m​auke> Programs only see a list of strings ("command line arguments")
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2023-11-21 19:38:14 +0100 <geekosaur> also word splitting, which is a large part of what makes it potentially dangerous: `proc` ensures the parameters are exactly as you specified them
2023-11-21 19:38:19 +0100 <haskellbridge> 14<m​auke> Well, and another list of strings ("environment variables")
2023-11-21 19:40:37 +0100 <haskellbridge> 14<m​auke> program :: ([ByteString], [ByteString]) -> IO Word8
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2023-11-21 19:49:10 +0100 <monochrom> It's telephone games all the way down.
2023-11-21 19:54:28 +0100 <sshine> erty, yeah, stuff like `ls *.txt`, the `*` (glob expansion) is a shell feature. there's a rabbit hole of gotchas with this kind of stuff, best avoid it if you're dealing with any user input, and generally avoid shell scripting in the middle of your program, unless your program is a shell script, in which case you asked for it. :-D
2023-11-21 19:56:55 +0100eggplantade(~Eggplanta@2600:1700:38c5:d800:19c0:53d0:5da5:a978)
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2023-11-21 19:57:27 +0100 <sshine> erty, there are some Haskell libraries that try to provide a better interface to shell scripting: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/turtle is probably the most popular one... I also see one library called 'handsy' and one called 'shh', but I haven't tried htem.
2023-11-21 19:58:33 +0100 <sshine> erty, I think it's a good attempt, because Unix pipes are also lazy.
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2023-11-21 20:00:46 +0100EvanR(~EvanR@user/evanr)
2023-11-21 20:02:51 +0100 <geekosaur> one that people often miss is that `~` is also expanded by the shell
2023-11-21 20:06:55 +0100alp_(~alp@2001:861:e3d6:8f80:136f:41ef:3f97:6e14)
2023-11-21 20:12:53 +0100 <juri_> sshine: lazy, but in blocks.
2023-11-21 20:12:59 +0100 <erty> sshine: Thank you for proving those links, But I have a question, should I be wary of using createProcess command if it takes input from user?
2023-11-21 20:13:23 +0100 <erty> should I not be doing that
2023-11-21 20:13:39 +0100 <EvanR> is the user The User or some random input from the internet xD
2023-11-21 20:13:53 +0100 <geekosaur> `createProcess` is fine with `proc`, `shell` is not
2023-11-21 20:14:06 +0100 <geekosaur> that's why both are provided
2023-11-21 20:14:11 +0100 <erty> EvanR: eg ssh connection to remote or maybe to ghc process taling
2023-11-21 20:14:14 +0100 <erty> *talking
2023-11-21 20:14:39 +0100 <erty> geekosaur: ok I will pefer proc then :-)
2023-11-21 20:19:52 +0100 <geekosaur> so for example xmonad uses `shell` because the input comes from the person writing their config and they usually want normal shell commands (and it's exactly as dangerous as running them directly in the shell)
2023-11-21 20:20:32 +0100 <geekosaur> but we also have `safeSpawn` which wraps `proc` for when the input is untrusted for some reason (e.g. it came from `Prompt`)
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2023-11-21 20:25:38 +0100 <erty> geekosaur: yeah I believe as long as we are avoiding the bad actors, we should be fine
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2023-11-21 20:37:31 +0100 <haskellbridge> 06<s​m> I like Shake's shell api https://hackage.haskell.org/package/shake-0.19.7/docs/Development-Shake-Command.html
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2023-11-21 20:42:42 +0100 <sshine> fixing a critical bug in untyped code on a time constraint is like walking through a minefield being asked to only pick up the purple mines.
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2023-11-21 20:44:29 +0100 <sshine> geekosaur, XMonad as a Service = XMaaS :-D
2023-11-21 20:46:20 +0100 <sshine> or if you just want randomly changing background pictures: XMonad Art as a Service Substitute = XMArtaaSS
2023-11-21 20:46:37 +0100 <sshine> s/Service/Software/
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2023-11-21 20:53:01 +0100 <cheater> so what's the current accepted way to set package constraints for a cabal project?
2023-11-21 20:53:07 +0100 <cheater> just in the .cabal?
2023-11-21 20:53:11 +0100 <cheater> something in a project file?
2023-11-21 20:53:19 +0100 <cheater> all this new fangled stuff is making me dizzy
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2023-11-21 20:59:45 +0100 <geekosaur> cabal file. project file is for when you need to bend them for some reason (e.g. building under a new compiler)
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2023-11-21 21:05:00 +0100 <haskellbridge> 04<z​wro> what about local packages?
2023-11-21 21:07:44 +0100 <geekosaur> still specified in the cabal file
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2023-11-21 21:11:44 +0100 <haskellbridge> 04<z​wro> i used to do something like local-modules-dir: in the cabal file but i don't remember why i changed to putting the path to each package in the project file
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2023-11-21 21:12:16 +0100 <haskellbridge> 04<z​wro> (i don't remember what was the exact .cabal field)
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2023-11-21 21:39:06 +0100 <cheater> ok
2023-11-21 21:39:08 +0100 <cheater> thanks
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2023-11-21 21:48:59 +0100 <tomsmeding> zwro: you aren't just referring to 'packages:'?
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2023-11-21 22:48:04 +0100 <haskellbridge> 04<z​wro> i'm not sure. maybe i'm wrong
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