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| 2023-09-12 00:23:46 +0200 | <ph88> | what does the ~ mean in https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.18.0.0/docs/src/Data.Either.html#partitionEithers ? |
| 2023-09-12 00:24:15 +0200 | <erisco> | ph88, it is called an irrefutable pattern |
| 2023-09-12 00:24:22 +0200 | <EvanR> | lazy pattern match |
| 2023-09-12 00:24:43 +0200 | <EvanR> | the pattern is assumed to match but isn't checked |
| 2023-09-12 00:24:56 +0200 | <EvanR> | until absolutely necessary |
| 2023-09-12 00:25:21 +0200 | <ph88> | where can i apply that in my own code ? |
| 2023-09-12 00:25:29 +0200 | sm | (~sm@plaintextaccounting/sm) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 00:25:39 +0200 | <EvanR> | in a place where checking the pattern would lead to an infinite loop, in my experience |
| 2023-09-12 00:26:01 +0200 | <EvanR> | since it's a pair, it will match anyway, so don't check now |
| 2023-09-12 00:26:15 +0200 | <EvanR> | esp if it would cause an infinite loop |
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| 2023-09-12 00:28:11 +0200 | <c_wraith> | in the case of partitionEithers, it wouldn't be an infinite loop. It's just more efficient. |
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| 2023-09-12 03:00:59 +0200 | <Inst> | What are the chances that there's actually a Haskell codebase using this? |
| 2023-09-12 03:01:01 +0200 | <Inst> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.18.0.0/docs/Control-Exception.html#t:TypeError |
| 2023-09-12 03:03:35 +0200 | yosef` | (~yosef`@user/yosef/x-2947716) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2023-09-12 03:03:44 +0200 | <Inst> | I mean you have NRI prelude on XStrict, so there has to be someone using -fdefer-type-errors |
| 2023-09-12 03:05:17 +0200 | brettgilio | (a35ba67324@2604:bf00:561:2000::260) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2023-09-12 03:06:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | generally it's used by IDEs, so I'd look at HLS |
| 2023-09-12 03:07:25 +0200 | sm | (~sm@plaintextaccounting/sm) |
| 2023-09-12 03:07:35 +0200 | jespada | (~jespada@cpc121308-nmal25-2-0-cust15.19-2.cable.virginm.net) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 03:08:42 +0200 | <EvanR> | -fdefer-type-errors is handy if you want to run your program before the entire thing is compiling |
| 2023-09-12 03:09:11 +0200 | <EvanR> | like, if each file is a room, and you promise not to go in the rooms that aren't compiling yet |
| 2023-09-12 03:10:30 +0200 | jespada | (~jespada@cpc121308-nmal25-2-0-cust15.19-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 2023-09-12 03:11:30 +0200 | <Axman6> | it'd be appropriate to use if you were using Data.Dynamic and you messed up |
| 2023-09-12 03:12:59 +0200 | sm | (~sm@plaintextaccounting/sm) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 03:13:29 +0200 | <Inst> | so maybe IHP? |
| 2023-09-12 03:13:33 +0200 | <Inst> | since they have hot reloading? |
| 2023-09-12 03:20:38 +0200 | <Axman6> | perhaps |
| 2023-09-12 03:21:53 +0200 | <EvanR> | hold the hot reloading until the changes type check, imo |
| 2023-09-12 03:22:16 +0200 | <Axman6> | YOLO |
| 2023-09-12 03:22:55 +0200 | <Axman6> | just coerce the Dynamic and blame the user when they get it wrong |
| 2023-09-12 03:22:59 +0200 | <jackdk> | type changing + hot reloading is a real hard problem. Not sure if IHP even attempts it |
| 2023-09-12 03:23:45 +0200 | <Axman6> | luckily we can do things like not reload a Wai application which has a concrete type, so all the other types can change |
| 2023-09-12 03:23:49 +0200 | <Axman6> | hot* |
| 2023-09-12 03:24:09 +0200 | <EvanR> | not reloading |
| 2023-09-12 03:24:23 +0200 | <Axman6> | F4n't |
| 2023-09-12 03:24:31 +0200 | nate2 | (~nate@c-98-45-169-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 2023-09-12 03:24:37 +0200 | <Axman6> | is it F4? I dunno, never really used windows |
| 2023-09-12 03:24:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "hot or not?" 😛 |
| 2023-09-12 03:24:54 +0200 | <Inst> | f4 is search, iirc, f5 is reload |
| 2023-09-12 03:24:56 +0200 | <Axman6> | that's actually a great name for a hot code reloading framework XD |
| 2023-09-12 03:25:03 +0200 | <Axman6> | dang, so close |
| 2023-09-12 03:25:16 +0200 | <Axman6> | HsHotOrNot |
| 2023-09-12 03:25:26 +0200 | <Inst> | c4 is a great name for a package manager, but in a Haskell context... |
| 2023-09-12 03:25:37 +0200 | <Axman6> | (HotOrNotHs might get you thrown in jail) |
| 2023-09-12 03:25:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sounds like the opposite of a package manager to me |
| 2023-09-12 03:26:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | deconstruction manager maybe |
| 2023-09-12 03:26:08 +0200 | <Axman6> | unzipping a tarball is definitely exploding a package |
| 2023-09-12 03:26:50 +0200 | shapr | (~user@c-67-160-55-153.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 2023-09-12 03:27:18 +0200 | <Axman6> | the package I've always wanted to make was a combination of Grenade, the deep learning package, and Accelerate for running it on the GUP - the name would of course be RPG |
| 2023-09-12 03:27:24 +0200 | <Inst> | why am i using (\cases ... ) args? |
| 2023-09-12 03:27:40 +0200 | <Inst> | did anyone fix accelerate? |
| 2023-09-12 03:27:42 +0200 | <Axman6> | I tried to do it once but realised I don't know enough about either package to pull it off :'( |
| 2023-09-12 03:27:46 +0200 | sm | (~sm@plaintextaccounting/sm) |
| 2023-09-12 03:28:27 +0200 | <Inst> | this doesn't work :( |
| 2023-09-12 03:28:27 +0200 | <Inst> | cases localFile remoteFile internalFile of |
| 2023-09-12 03:28:53 +0200 | <Axman6> | why not? |
| 2023-09-12 03:29:04 +0200 | <Axman6> | GPU* |
| 2023-09-12 03:29:30 +0200 | <Inst> | ummm, afaik cases isn't a thing, right? but \cases is? |
| 2023-09-12 03:29:49 +0200 | nate2 | (~nate@c-98-45-169-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 03:31:59 +0200 | <int-e> | if you want to bind a variable called 'cases' |
| 2023-09-12 03:32:34 +0200 | sm | (~sm@plaintextaccounting/sm) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 03:32:50 +0200 | <int-e> | Oh, \cases does exist but is new in 9.4.1. |
| 2023-09-12 03:35:24 +0200 | <int-e> | You can always use `case (v1, v2, v3) of ...` in an expression context. But that doesn't really work in the lambda-case niche; you're basically left with the unsugared \v1 v2 v3 -> case (v1, v2, v3) of ... instead. |
| 2023-09-12 03:38:38 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:3c1b:8aaf:c8cf:6421) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 03:39:00 +0200 | Axman6 | was secretly hoping jle` would pick up grenade mantenence after his excellent series on singletons basically built the exact same library from scratch |
| 2023-09-12 03:39:25 +0200 | <Axman6> | s/singletons/dependent types |
| 2023-09-12 03:41:57 +0200 | lyxia | (~lyxia@poisson.chat) |
| 2023-09-12 03:42:35 +0200 | <Inst> | yeah, but I wanted to avoid the tupled syntax |
| 2023-09-12 03:47:34 +0200 | otto_s | (~user@p5de2fddf.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
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| 2023-09-12 03:48:31 +0200 | <int-e> | > case (,) 1 2 of (,) x y -> (x, y) |
| 2023-09-12 03:48:32 +0200 | <lambdabot> | (1,2) |
| 2023-09-12 03:48:54 +0200 | iteratee | (~kyle@162.218.222.207) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 03:49:18 +0200 | otto_s | (~user@p5de2f28b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2023-09-12 03:52:34 +0200 | <Inst> | whoa, thanks |
| 2023-09-12 03:52:47 +0200 | <Inst> | far, far from ideal, but big improvement |
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| 2023-09-12 04:55:16 +0200 | finn_elija | FinnElija |
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| 2023-09-12 04:59:30 +0200 | <Inst> | you can't get haddock comments into where clauses, right? |
| 2023-09-12 05:10:58 +0200 | aforemny_ | (~aforemny@i59F516DD.versanet.de) |
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| 2023-09-12 05:13:48 +0200 | <glguy> | I wouldn't think so |
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| 2023-09-12 05:39:24 +0200 | ornx | (~ornx@user/ornxka) |
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| 2023-09-12 05:40:30 +0200 | aaronv | (~aaronv@user/aaronv) |
| 2023-09-12 05:40:44 +0200 | <ornx> | okay, be honest with me, how many times would you all estimate that you have implemented peano numbers in some form |
| 2023-09-12 05:41:16 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@088-129-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2023-09-12 05:41:54 +0200 | <jackdk> | ornx: `count = S count` times |
| 2023-09-12 05:42:14 +0200 | <ornx> | lmao |
| 2023-09-12 05:42:25 +0200 | <ornx> | it certainly feels like that sometimes |
| 2023-09-12 05:46:07 +0200 | <Axman6> | Not that often, mostly at the type level |
| 2023-09-12 05:47:54 +0200 | <jackdk> | And even then we have Nat now |
| 2023-09-12 05:48:35 +0200 | <Axman6> | yeah - and the plugin that Clash uses to make dealing with them sane |
| 2023-09-12 05:54:05 +0200 | _d0t | (~{-d0t-}@user/-d0t-/x-7915216) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 05:55:06 +0200 | phma | (~phma@host-67-44-208-5.hnremote.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2023-09-12 05:55:54 +0200 | phma | (~phma@2001:5b0:210f:7168:cc95:7518:e3ef:e00e) |
| 2023-09-12 05:58:44 +0200 | <Inst> | honestly peano arithmetic is the hello world of proof languages |
| 2023-09-12 06:00:00 +0200 | <segfaultfizzbuzz> | https://www.twitch.tv/trumporbiden2024 is why computers were invented |
| 2023-09-12 06:05:30 +0200 | _ht | (~Thunderbi@28-52-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl) |
| 2023-09-12 06:13:11 +0200 | <Inst> | in haskell-land, when is it a good idea to stop adding features to your library and just ship? |
| 2023-09-12 06:13:33 +0200 | <Inst> | right now I'm thinking about trying to figure out how to check if i have read-write permissions on files in a directory |
| 2023-09-12 06:14:28 +0200 | <Inst> | and completely rebuild my result for what should be a simple "check if file exists, satisfies hash, deploy into it locally or from net, etc" |
| 2023-09-12 06:14:44 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@088-129-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 06:14:46 +0200 | <monochrom> | ornx: Does it count if I use parametricity to prove that (forall a. a -> (a -> a) -> a) is in bijection with the natural numbers? http://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/abs-type-param.html#example-a.-aaaa |
| 2023-09-12 06:16:08 +0200 | segfaultfizzbuzz | (~segfaultf@12.172.217.142) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 06:18:24 +0200 | malte | (~malte@mal.tc) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 06:21:15 +0200 | <Inst> | hmmm, not sure if this is interesting, but let's say I'm executing a bunch of IO actions and wish to fold the results together |
| 2023-09-12 06:21:37 +0200 | <Inst> | i guess we're back to "Haskell sucks at variadic functions"? |
| 2023-09-12 06:22:51 +0200 | <mauke> | f <$> a <*> b <*> c <*> |
| 2023-09-12 06:22:57 +0200 | <mauke> | d |
| 2023-09-12 06:23:08 +0200 | <Inst> | no, but f is specific to a number of arguments |
| 2023-09-12 06:23:25 +0200 | <Inst> | i think sequence might be able to do it, i.e, [IO [a]] |
| 2023-09-12 06:23:43 +0200 | <[Leary]> | We have `instance Monoid a => Monoid (IO a)`. And even if that weren't the case you could use `Ap`. |
| 2023-09-12 06:24:52 +0200 | <Inst> | yeah, okay, this would work better, Seq to avoid append penalties with lists / vector |
| 2023-09-12 06:25:32 +0200 | <Inst> | could just fold [IO (Seq a)]? |
| 2023-09-12 06:25:44 +0200 | <Inst> | as in, Data.Foldable.Fold? |
| 2023-09-12 06:26:32 +0200 | <Inst> | but even if monoid is empty, i'll still get the effects out, right? |
| 2023-09-12 06:26:52 +0200 | tcard_ | (~tcard@2400:4051:5801:7500:cf17:befc:ff82:5303) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2023-09-12 06:27:08 +0200 | tcard | (~tcard@2400:4051:5801:7500:cf17:befc:ff82:5303) |
| 2023-09-12 06:27:45 +0200 | <Inst> | foldMap' id, it seems |
| 2023-09-12 06:28:29 +0200 | _d0t | (~{-d0t-}@user/-d0t-/x-7915216) |
| 2023-09-12 06:31:03 +0200 | arahael | (~arahael@1.145.115.51) |
| 2023-09-12 06:31:08 +0200 | malte | (~malte@mal.tc) |
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| 2023-09-12 06:45:22 +0200 | pjlsergeant__ | (sid143467@id-143467.hampstead.irccloud.com) |
| 2023-09-12 06:46:03 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d198-53-218-113.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 06:48:00 +0200 | <Axman6> | that's just fold isn't it? is there a fold'? |
| 2023-09-12 06:48:05 +0200 | <Axman6> | @hoogle fold' |
| 2023-09-12 06:48:05 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Pipes.Prelude fold' :: Monad m => (x -> a -> x) -> x -> (x -> b) -> Producer a m r -> m (b, r) |
| 2023-09-12 06:48:05 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Data.HashPSQ fold' :: (k -> p -> v -> a -> a) -> a -> HashPSQ k p v -> a |
| 2023-09-12 06:48:05 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Data.IntPSQ fold' :: (Int -> p -> v -> a -> a) -> a -> IntPSQ p v -> a |
| 2023-09-12 06:51:26 +0200 | shapr | (~user@c-67-160-55-153.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 2023-09-12 06:51:58 +0200 | <Inst> | tbh i'm trying to run through a bunch of exception-throwing IO actions, catch them, convert them to my own exception type, then collate the exceptions and report them |
| 2023-09-12 06:52:27 +0200 | <Axman6> | IIRC lens has some nice stuff for managing and converting exceptions |
| 2023-09-12 06:52:36 +0200 | <Inst> | jeez |
| 2023-09-12 06:53:10 +0200 | <Inst> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/lens-5.2.3/docs/Control-Exception-Lens.html |
| 2023-09-12 06:56:17 +0200 | segfaultfizzbuzz | (~segfaultf@12.172.217.142) |
| 2023-09-12 06:59:47 +0200 | <Inst> | huh, interesting, i can implement the short-circuiting behavior via <|> from alternative |
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| 2023-09-12 10:27:52 +0200 | <probie> | Does anyone here have strong preferences about GraphQL server libraries? |
| 2023-09-12 10:30:41 +0200 | <[exa]> | I wish there would be good ones |
| 2023-09-12 10:31:35 +0200 | mysl | (~mysl@user/mysl) |
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| 2023-09-12 10:32:39 +0200 | <probie> | As far as I can tell, of those that are maintained there's Morpheus, which is a bit too opinionated for me |
| 2023-09-12 10:33:30 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) |
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| 2023-09-12 10:38:15 +0200 | Inst | (~Inst@120.244.192.250) |
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| 2023-09-12 10:38:16 +0200 | ubert2 | ubert |
| 2023-09-12 10:39:41 +0200 | <kuribas> | I started designing one, since I didn't like the existing ones. |
| 2023-09-12 10:39:48 +0200 | <kuribas> | But it's on hold. |
| 2023-09-12 10:40:44 +0200 | <kuribas> | Like a lot of haskell libraries, they are either to sofisticated, or to simple (just a clone of javascript libraries). |
| 2023-09-12 10:41:11 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2023-09-12 10:41:50 +0200 | arahael | (~arahael@119-18-1-27.771201.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net) |
| 2023-09-12 10:42:14 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | jackdk: do we? GHC.TypeNats.Nat is just NAtural |
| 2023-09-12 10:42:16 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | *Natural |
| 2023-09-12 10:43:02 +0200 | <Inst> | does anyone use IO as a monoid? |
| 2023-09-12 10:43:12 +0200 | danza | (~francesco@151.37.250.249) |
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| 2023-09-12 10:47:51 +0200 | <[exa]> | probie: kuribas: I actually needed to simplify it, full graphql querying doesn't at all by far allow reasonably federated evaluation |
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| 2023-09-12 10:57:02 +0200 | <kuribas> | federated? |
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| 2023-09-12 10:57:47 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | Inst: "did anyone fix accelerate" what did you mean? |
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| 2023-09-12 11:07:08 +0200 | <[exa]> | kuribas: like with sparql, but preferably less b0rked |
| 2023-09-12 11:09:13 +0200 | kuribas | doesn't know sparql |
| 2023-09-12 11:09:39 +0200 | <Inst> | tomsmeding: well, is the hackage compiling on 9.4.x? |
| 2023-09-12 11:09:53 +0200 | <Inst> | also, here's something interesting we're discussing on Discord, mainly because I misunderstood the applicative instance of IO |
| 2023-09-12 11:09:54 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | Inst: the master branch is, as far as I know |
| 2023-09-12 11:10:06 +0200 | <Inst> | newtype over IO [a] |
| 2023-09-12 11:10:06 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | hackage is indeed lagging |
| 2023-09-12 11:10:14 +0200 | <Inst> | get it to fail like a parser combinator when [a] is [] |
| 2023-09-12 11:10:34 +0200 | <Inst> | i.e, cheap short-circuiting |
| 2023-09-12 11:11:00 +0200 | <Inst> | erm, alternative instance, not applicative instance |
| 2023-09-12 11:11:55 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | as in `newtype InstIO a = InstIO (IO [a])` ? |
| 2023-09-12 11:12:00 +0200 | <Inst> | ya |
| 2023-09-12 11:12:01 +0200 | <[exa]> | kuribas: happy you. :D |
| 2023-09-12 11:12:09 +0200 | <Inst> | not familiar with asum |
| 2023-09-12 11:12:16 +0200 | <Inst> | but that's a good approximation of fold, no? |
| 2023-09-12 11:12:40 +0200 | <Inst> | so, io actions yielding some list type, map the newtype constructor onto the list of io actions, then asum |
| 2023-09-12 11:12:46 +0200 | <Inst> | cheap short-circuiting? |
| 2023-09-12 11:13:39 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | Inst: would it be a monad too? |
| 2023-09-12 11:14:52 +0200 | <Inst> | ack, IO [IO [a]] |
| 2023-09-12 11:15:09 +0200 | <Inst> | isn't ListT generally not producing a monad? :( |
| 2023-09-12 11:15:47 +0200 | andjjj23 | (~irc@107.170.228.47) (Server closed connection) |
| 2023-09-12 11:16:04 +0200 | andjjj23 | (~irc@107.170.228.47) |
| 2023-09-12 11:17:26 +0200 | <kuribas> | fold uses <>, asum <|> |
| 2023-09-12 11:17:46 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | Inst: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/nRdGemxt ? |
| 2023-09-12 11:17:59 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | not sure about the monad instance |
| 2023-09-12 11:18:00 +0200 | danse-nr3_ | (~francesco@151.35.249.3) |
| 2023-09-12 11:19:47 +0200 | <Inst> | only important thing was that i wanted cheap short-circuiting via the alternative |
| 2023-09-12 11:20:29 +0200 | danse-nr3 | (~francesco@151.37.250.249) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 11:21:20 +0200 | <[Leary]> | If you really want cheap short-circuiting, just use the mechanism that's already built into IO? E.g. `\io -> io >>= \case{ [] -> throwIO EmptyList; x:xs -> pure (x:|xs) }`. |
| 2023-09-12 11:22:04 +0200 | caryhartline | (~caryhartl@168.182.58.169) |
| 2023-09-12 11:23:35 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | still unsure about the question. Short-circuiting for what? Could you write an instance of function you expect to short-circuit? |
| 2023-09-12 11:23:44 +0200 | <jackdk> | tomsmeding: maybe I was too hopeful |
| 2023-09-12 11:23:54 +0200 | Guest|2 | (~Guest|2@150.214.58.89) |
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| 2023-09-12 11:28:48 +0200 | <Inst> | yeah, tired, will work on it later, was just surprised this wasn't IO type's default behavior |
| 2023-09-12 11:29:19 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | monads doesn't care about what's in the returned value |
| 2023-09-12 11:29:21 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | *don't |
| 2023-09-12 11:29:31 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | indeed they can't, because of parametricity |
| 2023-09-12 11:30:07 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | anything that does something special with a returned empty list from a monad M (e.g. IO) would have to look like 'data M a = M [a]' -- i.e. have the list embedded |
| 2023-09-12 11:30:27 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | in (<|>) or (>>=) you have no clue what the 'a' is that you're passing on |
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| 2023-09-12 11:37:43 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
| 2023-09-12 11:38:42 +0200 | <Inst> | tomsmeding: so, call it the Go monad / Go monoid informally? |
| 2023-09-12 11:39:48 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | why "Go"? |
| 2023-09-12 11:40:05 +0200 | <Inst> | IO monad with multiple return, no? |
| 2023-09-12 11:40:18 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | it's a combination of the list monad (nondeterminism) with the IO monad |
| 2023-09-12 11:40:36 +0200 | <Inst> | with a different alternative instance |
| 2023-09-12 11:40:57 +0200 | <Inst> | that, unfortunately, isn't as ergonomic as you'd like it to be, but the problem I'm trying to solve is handling a combination of unrecoverable and recoverable exceptions |
| 2023-09-12 11:41:07 +0200 | <Inst> | and outputting them to a result list |
| 2023-09-12 11:41:13 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | These? |
| 2023-09-12 11:41:31 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/monad-chronicle |
| 2023-09-12 11:43:37 +0200 | <probie> | % import Control.Exception |
| 2023-09-12 11:43:37 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 11:43:49 +0200 | <probie> | % catchErrs = foldr (\f k -> catch (f >> pure id) (\(SomeException e) -> pure (SomeException e:)) <*> k) (pure []) |
| 2023-09-12 11:43:49 +0200 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:99:21: error: [-Wname-shadowing, -Werror=name-shadowing] ; This binding for ‘f’ shadows the existing binding ; defined at <interactive>:61:1 |
| 2023-09-12 11:43:50 +0200 | <Inst> | interesting types |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:15 +0200 | <probie> | % catchErrs [print 5, throwIO (userError "oh no"), print 7, print 42 >> throwIO (userError "sad")] |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:15 +0200 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:101:1: error: ; Variable not in scope: catchErrs :: [IO ()] -> t |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:16 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % :set -Wno-error |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:16 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no location info>: warning: [-Wunrecognised-warning-flags] ; unrecognised warning flag: -Wno-error |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:22 +0200 | <Inst> | but tbh i'm just more attracted to the idea of using a different interface for IO monad |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:30 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % :unset -Werror |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:30 +0200 | <yahb2> | don't know how to reverse -Werror |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:35 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | -.- |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:40 +0200 | <Inst> | instead of using it as a monad, using it as a monoid / alternative, and having roughly the same power as IO monad |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:55 +0200 | <[Leary]> | % :set -Wwarn |
| 2023-09-12 11:44:55 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:03 +0200 | <probie> | % foldr (\next k -> catch (next >> pure id) (\(SomeException e) -> pure (SomeException e:)) <*> k) (pure []) [print 5, throwIO (userError "oh no"), print 7, print 42 >> throwIO (userError "sad")] |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:03 +0200 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:109:115: warning: [-Wtype-defaults] ; • Defaulting the following constraints to type ‘Integer’ ; (Num a0) arising from the literal ‘5’ at <interactive>:109:115 ; (... |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:24 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % :q |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:24 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:26 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % 42 |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:27 +0200 | <yahb2> | 42 |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:33 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % import Control.Exception |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:33 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:39 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % catchErrs = foldr (\f k -> catch (f >> pure id) (\(SomeException e) -> pure (SomeException e:)) <*> k) (pure []) |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:39 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:45 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | % catchErrs [print 5, throwIO (userError "oh no"), print 7, print 42 >> throwIO (userError "sad")] |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:46 +0200 | <yahb2> | 5 ; 7 ; 42 ; [user error (oh no),user error (sad)] |
| 2023-09-12 11:45:50 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | probie: ^ |
| 2023-09-12 11:46:18 +0200 | <probie> | Inst: is that the sort of thing you want, or are you trying to do something else? |
| 2023-09-12 11:46:26 +0200 | <Inst> | you're really the king of foldr, probie |
| 2023-09-12 11:49:05 +0200 | <Inst> | seems close enough, i'm too tired, about to fall asleep |
| 2023-09-12 11:49:56 +0200 | <Inst> | i already have code that's doing this in do notation, but i'm trying to set it up so i can do it via fold, foldMap', or something like that, the monoid method was just really attractive, shame alternative wasn't supportive |
| 2023-09-12 11:52:09 +0200 | <Inst> | still, i'm guessing, the IO [a] newtype isn't interesting? |
| 2023-09-12 11:52:51 +0200 | <Inst> | I'm also trying to figure out, how to get IO . []... ffff |
| 2023-09-12 11:54:06 +0200 | danse-nr3_ | (~francesco@151.35.249.3) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2023-09-12 11:54:15 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | I mean, the data type is isomorphic to Compose IO [] |
| 2023-09-12 11:54:20 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | but its instances probably differ |
| 2023-09-12 11:54:29 +0200 | danse-nr3_ | (~francesco@151.35.249.3) |
| 2023-09-12 12:02:22 +0200 | ft | (~ft@p508dbaa9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2023-09-12 12:02:38 +0200 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@2a05:5800:29f:6f00:664b:f0ff:fe37:9ef) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 12:03:31 +0200 | mysl | (~mysl@user/mysl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 12:04:32 +0200 | <gensyst> | What are your opinions on prefixing record fields vs. NoFieldSelectors & having a proper ability to reuse record field names ?? |
| 2023-09-12 12:04:40 +0200 | <gensyst> | I've been trying the latter, but it seems to have a massive disadvantage: Stuff like (\(Dog { name = x } -> x), and something similar, all over the place. The big offender: Having to type out the "Dog", losing the entire benefit of type inference (one of the great advertised Haskell benefits). |
| 2023-09-12 12:04:44 +0200 | <gensyst> | Is this really a tradeoff? |
| 2023-09-12 12:04:58 +0200 | <gensyst> | Or are there ways to make NoFieldSelectors more painless? |
| 2023-09-12 12:05:03 +0200 | notzmv | (~zmv@user/notzmv) |
| 2023-09-12 12:05:10 +0200 | mysl | (~mysl@user/mysl) |
| 2023-09-12 12:05:28 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2023-09-12 12:10:29 +0200 | xff0x | (~xff0x@125x103x176x34.ap125.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 12:11:03 +0200 | <jackdk> | gensyst: I usually use `generic-lens` with `import Data.Generics.Labels ()` and `-XOverloadedLabels` |
| 2023-09-12 12:13:26 +0200 | Inst | (~Inst@120.244.192.250) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 12:14:31 +0200 | Inst | (~Inst@120.244.192.250) |
| 2023-09-12 12:14:34 +0200 | <Inst> | hmmm |
| 2023-09-12 12:14:43 +0200 | <Inst> | this is closer to a typeclass than a newtype with a different instance |
| 2023-09-12 12:14:46 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@088-129-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2023-09-12 12:15:13 +0200 | <Inst> | short-term, i can implement this via an operator |
| 2023-09-12 12:15:32 +0200 | <Inst> | within a where clause, less smelly use of custom operators |
| 2023-09-12 12:16:39 +0200 | <Inst> | alternative doesn't work the way I expect, if the way I expect is lawful, I can just come up with a typeclass for it |
| 2023-09-12 12:17:53 +0200 | fendor | (~fendor@2a02:8388:1640:be00:c785:45ab:c70:9d3f) |
| 2023-09-12 12:18:18 +0200 | <Inst> | XAlternative is unused, I assume XAlternative2 is unused as well |
| 2023-09-12 12:18:26 +0200 | <Inst> | >||< is unused |
| 2023-09-12 12:18:47 +0200 | <Inst> | falsy is unused |
| 2023-09-12 12:19:21 +0200 | <Inst> | ^_^ is also unused, but sort of twee |
| 2023-09-12 12:21:15 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | ^_^ is not a valid operator name unfortunately |
| 2023-09-12 12:21:21 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | ^.^ is |
| 2023-09-12 12:21:38 +0200 | <Inst> | already in hoogle |
| 2023-09-12 12:21:50 +0200 | <Inst> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/cubicbezier |
| 2023-09-12 12:22:09 +0200 | <Inst> | i'm not good at abstract algebra or category theory, isn't Alternative essentially ad-hoc? |
| 2023-09-12 12:22:20 +0200 | <Inst> | a monoid on applicative |
| 2023-09-12 12:23:14 +0200 | econo_ | (uid147250@id-147250.tinside.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) |
| 2023-09-12 12:29:30 +0200 | <ncf> | it should at least be a monoid on f a, but sometimes other laws are required, see https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell/Alternative_and_MonadPlus#Other_suggested_laws |
| 2023-09-12 12:30:48 +0200 | <ncf> | you could also take the view that, while applicative functors are functors that preserve finite products, alternatives also preserve coproducts |
| 2023-09-12 12:31:10 +0200 | <ncf> | this suggests a different typing: empty :: f Void; (<|>) :: f a -> f b -> f (Either a b) |
| 2023-09-12 12:31:42 +0200 | <ncf> | see http://h2.jaguarpaw.co.uk/posts/alternatives-convert-products-to-sums/ |
| 2023-09-12 12:32:23 +0200 | puke | (~puke@user/puke) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2023-09-12 12:33:58 +0200 | <kuribas> | Inst: do you have a question about cubicbezier? |
| 2023-09-12 12:34:16 +0200 | <ncf> | one nice example of a functor that is both product-preserving (monoidal/applicative) and coproduct-preserving (alternative) is Decidable a = Yes a | No (a -> Void). it's not hard to see that if you can decide A and B, you can also decide (A, B) and Either A B |
| 2023-09-12 12:34:57 +0200 | <ncf> | the interesting thing is that Decidable isn't even a Functor, because you can't map No contravariantly. it's an Invariant functor, so it doesn't fit the usual hierarchy Functor => Applicative => Alternative |
| 2023-09-12 12:35:15 +0200 | <ncf> | anyhow this isn't very useful without dependent types |
| 2023-09-12 12:35:56 +0200 | <Inst> | I mean cubicbeizier is using ^.^ |
| 2023-09-12 12:38:10 +0200 | <Inst> | well, I'm trying to find a stabilization of XAlternative beyond "parser combinators work this why, why don't other Alternatives work the same way?" |
| 2023-09-12 12:38:22 +0200 | puke | (~puke@user/puke) |
| 2023-09-12 12:38:53 +0200 | random-jellyfish | (~random-je@user/random-jellyfish) |
| 2023-09-12 12:39:59 +0200 | <ncf> | what's XAlternative? |
| 2023-09-12 12:42:38 +0200 | Yumemi | (~Yumemi@212.47.254.173) (Server closed connection) |
| 2023-09-12 12:42:42 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | Inst: because for parser combinators, the list is inside the monad |
| 2023-09-12 12:42:47 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | it's Parser a, not Parser [a] |
| 2023-09-12 12:42:57 +0200 | Yumemi | (~Yumemi@2001:bc8:47a0:1b14::1) |
| 2023-09-12 12:43:56 +0200 | <Inst> | moreover, natively, <|> ends up consuming input |
| 2023-09-12 12:44:08 +0200 | <Inst> | unless there's try built into the parser combinator |
| 2023-09-12 12:44:14 +0200 | <Inst> | or try is applied |
| 2023-09-12 12:44:23 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | that's very parser-combinator-specific semantics |
| 2023-09-12 12:44:38 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | not all functors have a sense of "input" :p |
| 2023-09-12 12:44:42 +0200 | <Inst> | ncf: a typeclass based on falsy and >||< |
| 2023-09-12 12:44:59 +0200 | <Inst> | wherein falsy >||< a = a, a >||< _ = a |
| 2023-09-12 12:46:44 +0200 | waleee | (~waleee@2001:9b0:21c:4000:5bf9:6515:c030:57b7) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 12:48:38 +0200 | waleee | (~waleee@h-176-10-137-138.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) |
| 2023-09-12 12:48:39 +0200 | <ncf> | those laws together imply a = falsy for all a |
| 2023-09-12 12:48:43 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@088-129-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 12:49:26 +0200 | <ncf> | a =(1) falsy >||< a =(2) falsy |
| 2023-09-12 12:50:46 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | ncf: presumably the second law only holds if the first argument doesn't reduce to 'falsy' |
| 2023-09-12 12:51:10 +0200 | <Inst> | falsy >||< a = a; a >||< _ = a |
| 2023-09-12 12:51:31 +0200 | <ncf> | so you depend on Eq? |
| 2023-09-12 12:51:33 +0200 | <Inst> | afaik it's a lawful definition for applicative |
| 2023-09-12 12:51:46 +0200 | <Inst> | erm, alternative |
| 2023-09-12 12:52:07 +0200 | <ncf> | are functors involved? what's the type of falsy and (>||<)? |
| 2023-09-12 12:52:51 +0200 | <Inst> | falsy is basically how I'd imagine alternative generally worked until I found out stuff like, well, instance [a] where <|> = <> |
| 2023-09-12 12:53:22 +0200 | <Inst> | so a valid implementatino for XAlternative would also be valid for Applicative |
| 2023-09-12 12:53:26 +0200 | <Inst> | erm, Alternative |
| 2023-09-12 12:53:46 +0200 | <Inst> | you could define list that way too |
| 2023-09-12 12:54:13 +0200 | <gensyst> | jackdk, sigh... another (probably useful) library without a tutorial |
| 2023-09-12 12:58:35 +0200 | <gensyst> | right? |
| 2023-09-12 13:02:51 +0200 | <probie> | gensyst: are you referring to generic-lens, or something else? |
| 2023-09-12 13:04:41 +0200 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) (Quit: Bye!) |
| 2023-09-12 13:06:28 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | i always assumed that if i could not understand a library considering its reduced doc, i was on the wrong stage of the evolution of an haskell programmer |
| 2023-09-12 13:07:06 +0200 | <gensyst> | probie, yeah generic-lens. here's the quote: |
| 2023-09-12 13:07:07 +0200 | <gensyst> | jackdk> gensyst: I usually use `generic-lens` with `import Data.Generics.Labels ()` and `-XOverloadedLabels` |
| 2023-09-12 13:08:02 +0200 | <gensyst> | Are lenses "*the* way" to allow both duplicate record names and avoid all the pain if I would try doing it without lenses (e.g. NoFieldSelectors)?? |
| 2023-09-12 13:08:09 +0200 | <gensyst> | maybe the time has come to bite the bullet, and get into lenses |
| 2023-09-12 13:08:22 +0200 | <gensyst> | but that only raises more questions... lens vs. generic-lens, etc. |
| 2023-09-12 13:08:47 +0200 | <gensyst> | Quick recap from above comments of mine: |
| 2023-09-12 13:08:47 +0200 | <probie> | So if you've got a field call "foo", and have derived Generic, you can go `thing ^. #foo` to extract foo from thing |
| 2023-09-12 13:08:47 +0200 | <gensyst> | <gensyst> What are your opinions on prefixing record fields vs. NoFieldSelectors & having a proper ability to reuse record field names ?? |
| 2023-09-12 13:08:54 +0200 | <gensyst> | <gensyst> I've been trying the latter, but it seems to have a massive disadvantage: Stuff like (\(Dog { name = x } -> x), and something similar, all over the place. The big offender: Having to type out the "Dog", losing the entire benefit of type inference (one of the great advertised Haskell benefits). |
| 2023-09-12 13:09:48 +0200 | <probie> | `generic-lens` is used in addition to `lens` - it just gives you "lenses for free" and doesn't require TH |
| 2023-09-12 13:10:00 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | i guess lenses should actually be orthogonal to the problem of naming selectors, but maybe you want to learn the solution with lenses to save some time as they are often better than regular selectors |
| 2023-09-12 13:11:45 +0200 | privacy | (~privacy@47.219.84.6) (Quit: Leaving) |
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| 2023-09-12 13:41:29 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | had never heard about the Go monad before |
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| 2023-09-12 13:49:02 +0200 | danse-nr3_ | (~francesco@151.35.249.3) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
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| 2023-09-12 13:53:48 +0200 | danse-nr3_ | (~francesco@151.35.249.3) |
| 2023-09-12 13:54:23 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | i cannot even find it anywhere https://hoogle.haskell.org/?hoogle=Go |
| 2023-09-12 14:05:05 +0200 | <carbolymer> | why ghc is complaining: Redundant constraint: HasCallStack |
| 2023-09-12 14:05:10 +0200 | <carbolymer> | doesn't make sense to me |
| 2023-09-12 14:05:43 +0200 | <carbolymer> | oh... actually it does |
| 2023-09-12 14:05:51 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2023-09-12 14:05:58 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@088-129-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2023-09-12 14:06:06 +0200 | <carbolymer> | I'm using HasCallstack on a function which calls functions which do not have HasCallStack |
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| 2023-09-12 14:28:35 +0200 | <gensyst> | probie, danse-nr3_ thanks for the input |
| 2023-09-12 14:28:54 +0200 | <gensyst> | danse-nr3_> "i guess lenses should actually be orthogonal to the problem of naming selectors" |
| 2023-09-12 14:29:06 +0200 | <gensyst> | why? with lenses, i can have same record names for different types without issues, right? |
| 2023-09-12 14:30:59 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | i doubt it, but i guess if you pursue a solution to have same lens names, you will enable some extension that allows same selector names anyways |
| 2023-09-12 14:32:16 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | it is just an abstraction more on top of the problem. Might save you some time as you will probably want to eventually use that abstraction anyways |
| 2023-09-12 14:33:14 +0200 | <gensyst> | so with lenses with same names, i'll still have to resort to (\(Dog { name = x } -> x) shenanigans (as with NoFieldSelectors)? |
| 2023-09-12 14:33:23 +0200 | <gensyst> | jackdk, look forward to your input if you're still around |
| 2023-09-12 14:34:22 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | i am not sure that you need that shenigan in the first place, but my answer is no, you might have to resort to completely different shenigans |
| 2023-09-12 14:34:55 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | sorry, your original problem is a bit far away in the chat. If you want to come back to it, might have to state it again |
| 2023-09-12 14:35:56 +0200 | <gensyst> | Here's the original: |
| 2023-09-12 14:35:58 +0200 | <gensyst> | --- |
| 2023-09-12 14:35:59 +0200 | <gensyst> | <gensyst> What are your opinions on prefixing record fields vs. NoFieldSelectors & having a proper ability to reuse record field names ?? |
| 2023-09-12 14:36:00 +0200 | <gensyst> | <gensyst> I've been trying the latter, but it seems to have a massive disadvantage: Stuff like (\(Dog { name = x } -> x), and something similar, all over the place. The big offender: Having to type out the "Dog", losing the entire benefit of type inference (one of the great advertised Haskell benefits). |
| 2023-09-12 14:36:00 +0200 | <gensyst> | <gensyst> Is this really a tradeoff? |
| 2023-09-12 14:36:00 +0200 | <gensyst> | <gensyst> Or are there ways to make NoFieldSelectors more painless? |
| 2023-09-12 14:36:01 +0200 | <gensyst> | --- |
| 2023-09-12 14:37:23 +0200 | shailangsa | (~shailangs@host86-186-196-224.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2023-09-12 14:37:55 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | i think you cannot use `name` and expect the compiler to infer the type, although i am not very familiar with these extensions. I do not think (\(Dog { name = x } -> x) is needed though, probably just something like Dog.name |
| 2023-09-12 14:37:59 +0200 | robertm | (robertm@lattice.rojoma.com) (Server closed connection) |
| 2023-09-12 14:38:18 +0200 | robertm | (robertm@lattice.rojoma.com) |
| 2023-09-12 14:38:27 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | maybe we can play a bit with the interpreter and figure out |
| 2023-09-12 14:38:39 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | % set -XNoFieldSelectors |
| 2023-09-12 14:38:39 +0200 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:13:1: error: ; • Variable not in scope: set ; • Perhaps you meant ‘seq’ (imported from Prelude) ; ; <interactive>:13:6: error: ; Data constructor not in scope: XNoFieldSe... |
| 2023-09-12 14:38:48 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | % :set -XNoFieldSelectors |
| 2023-09-12 14:38:48 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:08 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | % data Dog { name :: String } |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:08 +0200 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:17:10: error: ; Unexpected type ‘{name :: String}’ ; In the data declaration for ‘Dog’ ; A data declaration should have form ; data Dog a = ... |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:15 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | % data Dog = Dog { name :: String } |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:15 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:24 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | % data Cat = Cat { name :: String } |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:24 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:33 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | % :t Dog.name |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:33 +0200 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:1: error: ; Not in scope: ‘Dog.name’ ; No module named ‘Dog’ is imported. |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:52 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | some other extension might be needed |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:56 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | % :t name |
| 2023-09-12 14:39:56 +0200 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:1: error: ; • Variable not in scope: name ; • NB: ‘name’ is a field selector belonging to the type ‘Cat’ ; that has been suppressed by NoFieldSelectors |
| 2023-09-12 14:42:30 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | possibly this one https://ghc.gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/doc/users_guide/exts/overloaded_record_dot.html gensyst |
| 2023-09-12 14:42:58 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | % :set -XOverloadedRecordDot |
| 2023-09-12 14:42:58 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 14:43:05 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | % :t Dog.name |
| 2023-09-12 14:43:05 +0200 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:1: error: ; Not in scope: ‘Dog.name’ ; No module named ‘Dog’ is imported. |
| 2023-09-12 14:43:23 +0200 | mjs2600 | (~mjs2600@174.169.225.239) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) |
| 2023-09-12 14:43:26 +0200 | <stefan-_> | % dog = Dog "foo" |
| 2023-09-12 14:43:27 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 14:43:29 +0200 | <stefan-_> | % dog.name |
| 2023-09-12 14:43:29 +0200 | <yahb2> | "foo" |
| 2023-09-12 14:43:43 +0200 | <stefan-_> | the dot syntax works at the value level |
| 2023-09-12 14:43:51 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | thanks stefan-_ |
| 2023-09-12 14:44:07 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | and possibly this also gives you what you wanted gensyst, let us see... |
| 2023-09-12 14:44:13 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | % :t (.name) |
| 2023-09-12 14:44:13 +0200 | <yahb2> | (.name) :: GHC.Records.HasField "name" r a => r -> a |
| 2023-09-12 14:44:43 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | looks like it, your `.name` that will play nicely with type inference |
| 2023-09-12 14:45:10 +0200 | mjs2600 | (~mjs2600@c-174-169-225-239.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) |
| 2023-09-12 14:45:24 +0200 | <gensyst> | woah.... hmmmmmm |
| 2023-09-12 14:45:39 +0200 | <gensyst> | but this already gives you the biggest benefits of lenses |
| 2023-09-12 14:45:42 +0200 | <gensyst> | record syntax |
| 2023-09-12 14:46:00 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | lenses have a lot of benefits, it is a big library |
| 2023-09-12 14:46:22 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | and even just `get`, `set` and `over` are handy enough to justify its use |
| 2023-09-12 14:46:44 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | sorry ... that was not `get`, it is actually called `view` |
| 2023-09-12 14:47:20 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | unfortunately it is not very easy to approach as a library, so you might want to keep it for later |
| 2023-09-12 14:48:51 +0200 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:87f8::) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 14:49:34 +0200 | <gensyst> | thanks! |
| 2023-09-12 14:49:59 +0200 | <danse-nr3_> | you are welcome! Now my battery is over. Bye |
| 2023-09-12 14:50:13 +0200 | <gensyst> | danse-nr3_, this is on my list https://leanpub.com/optics-by-example |
| 2023-09-12 14:50:18 +0200 | <gensyst> | goodbye! |
| 2023-09-12 14:50:35 +0200 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:87f8::) |
| 2023-09-12 14:51:13 +0200 | aaronv | (~aaronv@user/aaronv) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 14:51:42 +0200 | <stefan-_> | gensyst, for a short introduction you can check: https://www.schoolofhaskell.com/school/to-infinity-and-beyond/pick-of-the-week/a-little-lens-start… |
| 2023-09-12 14:52:07 +0200 | <stefan-_> | I recently also read a bit Optics by Example, was quite a good read so far |
| 2023-09-12 14:52:34 +0200 | jmdaemon | (~jmdaemon@user/jmdaemon) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 14:52:55 +0200 | <gensyst> | stefan-_, nice thanks |
| 2023-09-12 14:53:15 +0200 | waleee | (~waleee@2001:9b0:21c:4000:5bf9:6515:c030:57b7) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 14:54:31 +0200 | <stefan-_> | gensyst, and I found this a quite good introduction to all the extensions: https://github.com/mtamc/generic-lens-modern-setup |
| 2023-09-12 14:54:32 +0200 | danse-nr3_ | (~francesco@151.35.249.3) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 14:55:13 +0200 | waleee | (~waleee@2001:9b0:21c:4000:5bf9:6515:c030:57b7) |
| 2023-09-12 14:58:07 +0200 | wroathe | (~wroathe@207-153-38-140.fttp.usinternet.com) |
| 2023-09-12 14:58:07 +0200 | wroathe | (~wroathe@207-153-38-140.fttp.usinternet.com) (Changing host) |
| 2023-09-12 14:58:07 +0200 | wroathe | (~wroathe@user/wroathe) |
| 2023-09-12 14:59:42 +0200 | <ddellacosta> | gensyst: optics by example is great btw, it probably helped me get a basic level of familiarity with non-trivial lens concepts more than anything |
| 2023-09-12 15:00:04 +0200 | <ddellacosta> | definitely recommend picking that up soon if it's already on your list |
| 2023-09-12 15:01:54 +0200 | <gensyst> | very, very nice |
| 2023-09-12 15:02:34 +0200 | waleee | (~waleee@2001:9b0:21c:4000:5bf9:6515:c030:57b7) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 15:02:35 +0200 | <gensyst> | stefan-_, ddellacosta I can see end of the tunnel now. Haskell learning curve essential end, because Haskell progress seems to have stagnated a bit (imo a great thing) |
| 2023-09-12 15:03:00 +0200 | <gensyst> | for me things remaining: lenses (optics by example book), type level magic (thinking with types book), and concurrency (marlow book) |
| 2023-09-12 15:03:07 +0200 | <gensyst> | after that i'm basically "done" i think |
| 2023-09-12 15:03:15 +0200 | <gensyst> | unless dependent types come along |
| 2023-09-12 15:03:27 +0200 | <gensyst> | which could take... a few years at least? |
| 2023-09-12 15:04:01 +0200 | <gensyst> | so at least newbies nowadays know how long the road will be. this was not the case a few years ago. you just kept learning, and learning, and learning,... and you had no idea where things would end |
| 2023-09-12 15:05:17 +0200 | danse-nr3_ | (~francesco@151.35.249.3) |
| 2023-09-12 15:14:52 +0200 | waleee | (~waleee@2001:9b0:21c:4000:5bf9:6515:c030:57b7) |
| 2023-09-12 15:15:57 +0200 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) |
| 2023-09-12 15:17:28 +0200 | <jackdk> | I would not consider optics essential (though it is very useful), and I would delay thinking with types and the Marlow book (though both are probably excellent) |
| 2023-09-12 15:18:20 +0200 | danse-nr3__ | (~francesco@151.37.243.136) |
| 2023-09-12 15:18:39 +0200 | danse-nr3_ | (~francesco@151.35.249.3) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2023-09-12 15:19:23 +0200 | <gensyst> | jackdk, can you elaborate on those three? |
| 2023-09-12 15:20:17 +0200 | shailangsa | (~shailangs@host86-186-196-224.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) |
| 2023-09-12 15:21:01 +0200 | <jackdk> | I find it easier to understand the solutions people have come up with if I've seen the problems they've faced. Therefore, write Haskell, hit problems, then go looking for the solutions. If you stick to reasonably flat records, you can do without lens for quite a while (despite it being really awesome). You can also do a lot without typelevel magic or concurrency, so defer them to later instead of trying to learn the entire ecosystem up front |
| 2023-09-12 15:22:02 +0200 | <gensyst> | ok i see what you mean |
| 2023-09-12 15:22:07 +0200 | <gensyst> | thanks |
| 2023-09-12 15:22:14 +0200 | <gensyst> | so those are, wait until you need them |
| 2023-09-12 15:22:23 +0200 | <dminuoso> | This is a difficult process in general though. For instance, you couldnt want to first write your own HTTP server before using warp. |
| 2023-09-12 15:22:36 +0200 | <jackdk> | Haskell's iconic feature is laziness, after all |
| 2023-09-12 15:22:41 +0200 | <dminuoso> | Its also difficult to have the foresight to know when the attempt is pointless. |
| 2023-09-12 15:23:04 +0200 | <jackdk> | read enough to know _that_ there are these problems and the names (and maybe the outlines) of the solutions, but then go and write some code |
| 2023-09-12 15:23:37 +0200 | <dminuoso> | But yeah, optics is definitely not essential (unless you are interfacing with a library that imposes this requirement onto you). |
| 2023-09-12 15:24:56 +0200 | <gensyst> | You guys have, BTW, blown my mind today with NoFieldSelectors. How did I not know about this. |
| 2023-09-12 15:25:09 +0200 | <gensyst> | stefan-_, the setup you linked to is imo the way. should be standardized |
| 2023-09-12 15:25:16 +0200 | <gensyst> | and advocated on the whole planet |
| 2023-09-12 15:25:29 +0200 | <gensyst> | sorry, I meant |
| 2023-09-12 15:25:35 +0200 | <gensyst> | OverloadedRecordDot |
| 2023-09-12 15:25:42 +0200 | <gensyst> | (on top of NoFieldSelectors) |
| 2023-09-12 15:26:02 +0200 | <gensyst> | How did I not know about OverloadedRecordDot??? This is obviously the future |
| 2023-09-12 15:26:13 +0200 | qqq | (~qqq@92.43.167.61) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 15:26:18 +0200 | <gensyst> | Every newbie will wonder why nobody mentioned it to them in the beginning. |
| 2023-09-12 15:26:25 +0200 | TheCoffeMaker | (~TheCoffeM@user/thecoffemaker) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 15:26:26 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | i saw the two extensions bundled together in some doc, but could not retrieve it again |
| 2023-09-12 15:28:37 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | how did you get to NoFieldSelectors? Maybe we can improve some wiki page |
| 2023-09-12 15:29:16 +0200 | ystael | (~ystael@user/ystael) |
| 2023-09-12 15:30:27 +0200 | <gensyst> | danse-nr3__, probably after googling in frustration about some "name clashes" stuff |
| 2023-09-12 15:30:40 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | :P |
| 2023-09-12 15:34:07 +0200 | <gensyst> | Mind-blowing.... unless I'm mistaken, this will allow me (among other things) to put the same "un" name into each newtype: |
| 2023-09-12 15:34:12 +0200 | <gensyst> | newtype Foo = Foo { un :: Int } |
| 2023-09-12 15:34:12 +0200 | <gensyst> | newtype Bar = Bar { un :: Int } |
| 2023-09-12 15:34:24 +0200 | <gensyst> | no need to think about "unFoo" and "unBar" pitas |
| 2023-09-12 15:34:44 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | cool, had not thought about that |
| 2023-09-12 15:34:52 +0200 | <gensyst> | Pure bliss |
| 2023-09-12 15:35:42 +0200 | TheCoffeMaker | (~TheCoffeM@user/thecoffemaker) |
| 2023-09-12 15:35:42 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | i guess this is an opportunity to define a conventional name for those cases, although `un` sounds good to me |
| 2023-09-12 15:36:19 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | considering the knowledge most haskellers have, there is probably a more scientific choice |
| 2023-09-12 15:38:10 +0200 | <EvanR> | why isn't the point of having the newtype field name with NoFieldSelectors |
| 2023-09-12 15:38:16 +0200 | <EvanR> | what is the point* |
| 2023-09-12 15:38:56 +0200 | <gensyst> | EvanR, we're talking in combination with OverloadedRecordDot |
| 2023-09-12 15:39:01 +0200 | <gensyst> | let a = foo.un |
| 2023-09-12 15:39:04 +0200 | <gensyst> | let b = bar.un |
| 2023-09-12 15:39:32 +0200 | waleee | (~waleee@2001:9b0:21c:4000:5bf9:6515:c030:57b7) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 15:39:49 +0200 | <EvanR> | cool, now when you want map over something and unFoo, you can write like map (\foo -> foo.un) stuff instead of map unFoo stuff |
| 2023-09-12 15:40:11 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | actually you can just use (.un), no need for lambdas |
| 2023-09-12 15:40:14 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | to feed the brainstorming, i suggest `de`. Because if `Foo` is a constructor, `de` would be a deconstructor? Not sure the term exists |
| 2023-09-12 15:40:56 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | but on the other hand, `un` is closer to most usages in current haskell code |
| 2023-09-12 15:41:08 +0200 | <EvanR> | why does it need to be 1 or 2 characters long |
| 2023-09-12 15:41:15 +0200 | waleee | (~waleee@2001:9b0:21c:4000:5bf9:6515:c030:57b7) |
| 2023-09-12 15:41:18 +0200 | <EvanR> | unwrap |
| 2023-09-12 15:41:19 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | it does not. Of course, brevity helps |
| 2023-09-12 15:41:37 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | yeah, "wrapper" is a bit an overloaded term in programming |
| 2023-09-12 15:41:46 +0200 | <EvanR> | it helps people point at haskell and say, look, incomprehensible |
| 2023-09-12 15:42:14 +0200 | <EvanR> | (to be fair, shit like "yes! call it `un'" is common in every other language |
| 2023-09-12 15:42:15 +0200 | caryhartline | (~caryhartl@168.182.58.169) (Quit: caryhartline) |
| 2023-09-12 15:42:16 +0200 | <EvanR> | ) |
| 2023-09-12 15:42:41 +0200 | <EvanR> | hopefully we learn from their mistakes |
| 2023-09-12 15:43:14 +0200 | <gensyst> | danse-nr3__> "actually you can just use (.un), no need for lambdas" |
| 2023-09-12 15:43:14 +0200 | <gensyst> | This is the part I'm finding so cool. Just replacing "recordName" with "(.recordName)" (of course not necessary in cases where the ".recordName" suffix works) just suddenly works, and everything typechecks magically, and all name clashes are magically gone. |
| 2023-09-12 15:43:25 +0200 | <EvanR> | de is short for german or germany, unless we're in spanish or something |
| 2023-09-12 15:43:39 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | `dec`? |
| 2023-09-12 15:43:57 +0200 | <EvanR> | it's a newtype unwrapper, a standard thing, unwrap makes sense to me |
| 2023-09-12 15:44:05 +0200 | <EvanR> | no, monads are not based on unwrapping |
| 2023-09-12 15:44:10 +0200 | <EvanR> | specifically |
| 2023-09-12 15:44:21 +0200 | <EvanR> | but newtypes are |
| 2023-09-12 15:45:21 +0200 | Lycurgus | (~juan@user/Lycurgus) (Quit: Tschüss) |
| 2023-09-12 15:45:46 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | i think i prefer `un` to `unwrap`, the concept of wrapping is way too overloaded |
| 2023-09-12 15:46:29 +0200 | <EvanR> | in bad explanations of monads, yes |
| 2023-09-12 15:46:40 +0200 | <EvanR> | what else are you thinking of |
| 2023-09-12 15:46:45 +0200 | <gensyst> | I'll let others, powerful players decide documented conventions. I wrote "un" because I've seen "unFoo", "unBar", etc. many times. |
| 2023-09-12 15:46:52 +0200 | <gensyst> | although I've also seen "getBar", etc. |
| 2023-09-12 15:47:02 +0200 | <gensyst> | but get is so... boring lol |
| 2023-09-12 15:47:17 +0200 | <EvanR> | also run |
| 2023-09-12 15:47:21 +0200 | <gensyst> | yeah |
| 2023-09-12 15:47:23 +0200 | <gensyst> | indeed |
| 2023-09-12 15:47:27 +0200 | <dminuoso> | `runFoo` is something I like as well, if the (often monadic) combinators you use continously construct up some computation you can somehow later force. |
| 2023-09-12 15:48:06 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | not sure why you keep thinking about monads, as this is way more abstract |
| 2023-09-12 15:48:12 +0200 | <EvanR> | though the runFoo stuff doesn't run anything, it just unwraps |
| 2023-09-12 15:48:19 +0200 | <EvanR> | which is a no-op because newtypes |
| 2023-09-12 15:48:41 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <m​auke> I invented the unFoo convention, but I probably wasn't the first |
| 2023-09-12 15:48:45 +0200 | <dminuoso> | EvanR: well the `runFoo` is usually used in the spots where you actually force its inner thing. |
| 2023-09-12 15:48:52 +0200 | <dminuoso> | So the `run` part is not unjustified. |
| 2023-09-12 15:49:23 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <m​auke> Do we know who introduced it? |
| 2023-09-12 15:49:40 +0200 | <dminuoso> | Given that the data/newtype wrapper will protect the innards from computation. |
| 2023-09-12 15:49:59 +0200 | sm | (~sm@plaintextaccounting/sm) |
| 2023-09-12 15:50:05 +0200 | <EvanR> | danse-nr3__, you aren't giving any examples at all, really |
| 2023-09-12 15:50:16 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | which examples do you want? |
| 2023-09-12 15:50:47 +0200 | <EvanR> | you can't call something unwrap because too many things (like what) Are Unwrapping In Haskell |
| 2023-09-12 15:51:46 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrapper |
| 2023-09-12 15:51:46 +0200 | wroathe | (~wroathe@user/wroathe) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 15:52:30 +0200 | <EvanR> | well this is a discussion about oop-like dot syntax so I guess it makes sense to go as far as we want to judge what stuff should be called or feel like |
| 2023-09-12 15:52:37 +0200 | <EvanR> | instead of haskell context |
| 2023-09-12 15:52:56 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | XD |
| 2023-09-12 15:52:57 +0200 | <dolio> | Personally I think the extension itself has design flaws. |
| 2023-09-12 15:53:08 +0200 | <dolio> | .field is a poor choice of name. |
| 2023-09-12 15:53:36 +0200 | <lortabac> | gensyst: I don't know if someone has already mentioned it, but Data.Coerce is probably a better tool for working with newtypes |
| 2023-09-12 15:54:26 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@088-129-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2023-09-12 15:54:38 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | where did you pick `.field` from dolio? |
| 2023-09-12 15:54:48 +0200 | <dolio> | I mean using a dot. |
| 2023-09-12 15:56:04 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | i see, what had you used? |
| 2023-09-12 15:56:08 +0200 | <lortabac> | dolio: why do you think so? dot only has 4 different meanings in Haskell /s |
| 2023-09-12 15:56:22 +0200 | <dolio> | # maybe |
| 2023-09-12 15:56:35 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | yeah, a bit noisy |
| 2023-09-12 15:57:12 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | i think # is already used in haskell although i do not use it often |
| 2023-09-12 15:57:58 +0200 | <dolio> | It's not used in anything common that I can think of. |
| 2023-09-12 15:58:48 +0200 | <c_wraith> | isn't it used by the optics library? |
| 2023-09-12 15:58:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | # is already in use… for that, even |
| 2023-09-12 15:59:13 +0200 | <dolio> | The overloaded record accessors would have predated that. |
| 2023-09-12 16:00:00 +0200 | <EvanR> | # has precedent in other languages, ML? |
| 2023-09-12 16:00:06 +0200 | <EvanR> | for record fields |
| 2023-09-12 16:00:20 +0200 | <c_wraith> | # is also use by GHC internals with MagicHash, though that is a very specific syntactic extra case |
| 2023-09-12 16:00:26 +0200 | nicole | (ilbelkyr@libera/staff/ilbelkyr) (Quit: Reconnecting) |
| 2023-09-12 16:00:29 +0200 | nicole | (ilbelkyr@libera/staff/ilbelkyr) |
| 2023-09-12 16:00:38 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | anyways, we have not been nearly as "scientific" as i had hoped. Probably we will end up on no agreement and i guess i would stick on `un`. Anyways, thinking this as an isomorphism, we have a function `Foo` to go from a type to the other. We want to find a name for its inverse. Since `Foo` is a constructor, the other is a deconstructor, but being so common i suggest the shorter `de` or `dec` |
| 2023-09-12 16:00:42 +0200 | <dolio> | Yeah, that's at the end of the name. |
| 2023-09-12 16:01:14 +0200 | EdnaLuv | (~EdnaLuv@2605:59c8:70dd:1300:345e:9be7:36f7:e799) |
| 2023-09-12 16:01:29 +0200 | gehmehgeh | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) |
| 2023-09-12 16:02:11 +0200 | <c_wraith> | Not just names! ghci> :t 1#\n1# :: GHC.Prim.Int# |
| 2023-09-12 16:03:00 +0200 | <c_wraith> | and "hello"# :: GHC.Prim.Addr# |
| 2023-09-12 16:03:14 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | also OverloadedLabels |
| 2023-09-12 16:03:40 +0200 | <EdnaLuv> | TSA Delta Flight 194 Ad - Be Careful What You Eat before Your Flight! A TSA public service ad urges air passengers to be mindful of what they eat before their flight to avoid another Delta 194 diarrhea spray incident. https://justpaste.it/Delta_194_TSA/ |
| 2023-09-12 16:03:46 +0200 | ChanServ | +o geekosaur |
| 2023-09-12 16:03:51 +0200 | geekosaur | +b *!*@2605:59c8:70dd:1300:345e:9be7:36f7:e799 |
| 2023-09-12 16:03:51 +0200 | EdnaLuv | geekosaur (EdnaLuv) |
| 2023-09-12 16:03:57 +0200 | <tomsmeding> | geekosaur++ |
| 2023-09-12 16:03:58 +0200 | geekosaur | -o geekosaur |
| 2023-09-12 16:04:20 +0200 | <dolio> | Well, the labels thing just points to a kind of overall failure in these record extensions. |
| 2023-09-12 16:05:39 +0200 | qqq | (~qqq@92.43.167.61) |
| 2023-09-12 16:08:51 +0200 | <dolio> | So, actually, the overloaded labels already used my choice much earlier, and allow something very similar. |
| 2023-09-12 16:10:21 +0200 | <dolio> | You could have just had an extension that auto-declares labels for records, but OverloadedRecordDot decided to instead not do that and add a separate system for .field syntax, with the bad excuse that other languages use . for that. |
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| 2023-09-12 16:49:34 +0200 | phma_ | (~phma@host-67-44-208-7.hnremote.net) |
| 2023-09-12 16:50:33 +0200 | <ncf> | is there a way to, in a cabal.project file, say "use whatever version of foo is installed, and if you can't find any, fall back to this source-repository-package"? |
| 2023-09-12 16:50:53 +0200 | <ncf> | it seems like the falling back is in the other direction |
| 2023-09-12 16:51:29 +0200 | Guest|44 | (~Guest|44@203.189.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 2023-09-12 16:51:54 +0200 | phma__ | (phma@2001:5b0:211c:cea8:446a:c697:5d5a:83a7) |
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| 2023-09-12 16:53:20 +0200 | phma | (~phma@2001:5b0:211c:cea8:446a:c697:5d5a:83a7) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 16:53:44 +0200 | <c_wraith> | "is installed" isn't really a concept cabal v2 does. |
| 2023-09-12 16:53:55 +0200 | phma_ | (~phma@host-67-44-208-7.hnremote.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 16:54:25 +0200 | <c_wraith> | (by which I mean the v2 UI, not specific versions) |
| 2023-09-12 16:54:33 +0200 | phma__ | phma |
| 2023-09-12 16:55:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | well, `installed` is actually a thing, but you can't specify a fallback to a source-repository-package |
| 2023-09-12 16:56:06 +0200 | cptaffe | (~ZNC@99-47-99-155.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) |
| 2023-09-12 16:58:16 +0200 | <ncf> | bummer |
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| 2023-09-12 17:31:38 +0200 | econo_ | (uid147250@id-147250.tinside.irccloud.com) |
| 2023-09-12 17:35:14 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 2023-09-12 17:38:12 +0200 | blomberg | (~default_u@117.200.7.49) |
| 2023-09-12 17:38:55 +0200 | <blomberg> | hey inside f there is g and inside g there is h, but that's just currying, what if i want both g and h side by side inside f, is that allowed? |
| 2023-09-12 17:39:10 +0200 | <blomberg> | if so, that doesn't seeem functional? |
| 2023-09-12 17:40:04 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | could you make an example, blomberg? Can use an interpreter here with %, i will try something that follows your description, you can correct |
| 2023-09-12 17:41:22 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | % print "actually, i am not sure how to write what you described, please try yourself" |
| 2023-09-12 17:41:22 +0200 | <yahb2> | "actually, i am not sure how to write what you described, please try yourself" |
| 2023-09-12 17:42:15 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | does > also work? |
| 2023-09-12 17:42:20 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | > print "yes" |
| 2023-09-12 17:42:21 +0200 | <lambdabot> | <IO ()> |
| 2023-09-12 17:42:24 +0200 | <blomberg> | i don't know where keyword does generates curried functions or function side by side |
| 2023-09-12 17:43:59 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | i do not understand what you mean |
| 2023-09-12 17:44:16 +0200 | <blomberg> | i will show you pseudocode |
| 2023-09-12 17:44:27 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | alright |
| 2023-09-12 17:45:50 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@088-129-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 2023-09-12 17:45:54 +0200 | <blomberg> | def f(): { (def g(): return 3) ; (def h(): return 7) } |
| 2023-09-12 17:46:29 +0200 | <blomberg> | notice g() and h() are not curried in f |
| 2023-09-12 17:46:39 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | i will try |
| 2023-09-12 17:46:39 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | % f = g + h where g = 3, h = 7 |
| 2023-09-12 17:46:39 +0200 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:41:22: error: parse error on input ‘,’ |
| 2023-09-12 17:47:27 +0200 | <blomberg> | def f(): { [def g(): def h(): return 7] } #now they are curried |
| 2023-09-12 17:47:30 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | % let g = 3 in let h = 7 in let f = g + h |
| 2023-09-12 17:47:30 +0200 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:43:40: error: ; parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) |
| 2023-09-12 17:47:48 +0200 | <int-e> | % f = g + h where g = 3; h = 7 |
| 2023-09-12 17:47:49 +0200 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
| 2023-09-12 17:47:50 +0200 | <blomberg> | def f(): { [def g(): return def h(): return 7] } #now they are curried |
| 2023-09-12 17:47:52 +0200 | <int-e> | % f |
| 2023-09-12 17:47:52 +0200 | <yahb2> | 10 |
| 2023-09-12 17:47:56 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | thanks int-e |
| 2023-09-12 17:48:33 +0200 | <blomberg> | my question is if i use where and inside it define a function, and then in another clause define another function, they are side by side |
| 2023-09-12 17:48:37 +0200 | <int-e> | `where` is at the declaration level; let ... in ... is an expression, so that's why the second attempt didn't work |
| 2023-09-12 17:48:59 +0200 | <int-e> | s/declaration/binding/ I guess |
| 2023-09-12 17:49:54 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | thanks, maybe had to use parenthesis with `let`, but i will just try to remember ; the next time. I am still a bit confused about blomberg's question |
| 2023-09-12 17:50:12 +0200 | <blomberg> | f x |x<3 = g^2 where g | x>3 = h where h --h and g are the expanded defintions of the functions |
| 2023-09-12 17:51:10 +0200 | <blomberg> | int-e: what's declaration level vs expression inside functions don't they share the same scope |
| 2023-09-12 17:51:30 +0200 | <blomberg> | ok let has local scope |
| 2023-09-12 17:51:35 +0200 | <blomberg> | but i was talking about where |
| 2023-09-12 17:51:52 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | blomberg, in your first example f seems to return two functions |
| 2023-09-12 17:52:36 +0200 | <blomberg> | danse-nr3__: not in haskell definitions dont' "return" unless explicitly mentioned via = sign |
| 2023-09-12 17:52:57 +0200 | <blomberg> | danse-nr3__: look ^ |
| 2023-09-12 17:53:05 +0200 | <blomberg> | danse-nr3__: f x |x<3 = g^2 where g | x>3 = h where h --h and g are the expanded defintions of the functions |
| 2023-09-12 17:53:36 +0200 | caryhartline | (~caryhartl@168.182.58.169) |
| 2023-09-12 17:53:41 +0200 | <blomberg> | where g ; where h are just definitions they don't return it means they can't be curried and thus 2 definitions are there inside f |
| 2023-09-12 17:54:07 +0200 | <blomberg> | what if there were multiple definitions inside f side-by-side , then that's not currying |
| 2023-09-12 17:54:12 +0200 | <int-e> | blomberg: there are many scopes; each `let [bindings] in [expression]` creates a nested scope for the final expression. |
| 2023-09-12 17:54:34 +0200 | <blomberg> | int-e: got it |
| 2023-09-12 17:54:45 +0200 | <blomberg> | but that's not my question |
| 2023-09-12 17:55:06 +0200 | <int-e> | blomberg: f x | [guards] = [expression] where [bindings] opens a scope for the guards and the expression |
| 2023-09-12 17:55:23 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | blomberg, could you collect a small example in haskell? The pseudocode is not very clear |
| 2023-09-12 17:55:23 +0200 | <blomberg> | inside f there is g inside g there is h inside h there is i and inside i there is j . versus |
| 2023-09-12 17:55:29 +0200 | <int-e> | "don't they share the same scope" made no sense to me. |
| 2023-09-12 17:55:37 +0200 | <blomberg> | inside f there is g beside h beside i beside j ..... |
| 2023-09-12 17:55:54 +0200 | _ht | (~Thunderbi@28-52-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl) |
| 2023-09-12 17:55:55 +0200 | <blomberg> | look i already showed you the code |
| 2023-09-12 17:56:02 +0200 | ripspin | (~chatzilla@1.145.166.245) |
| 2023-09-12 17:56:12 +0200 | <blomberg> | f x |x<3 = g^2 where g | x>3 = h where h --h and g are the expanded defintions of the functions -- i can't be more clear than this |
| 2023-09-12 17:56:21 +0200 | <yushyin> | well ... |
| 2023-09-12 17:56:48 +0200 | <blomberg> | my question is clear, inside that code that i sent, are f->g->h curried or does haskell not curry then |
| 2023-09-12 17:56:52 +0200 | shapr | (~user@c-67-160-55-153.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 2023-09-12 17:56:57 +0200 | <blomberg> | yushyin: please don't |
| 2023-09-12 17:57:14 +0200 | <int-e> | what does currying have to do with scopes?! |
| 2023-09-12 17:57:27 +0200 | <EvanR> | everything function is curried and takes exactly 1 argument |
| 2023-09-12 17:57:35 +0200 | <EvanR> | every function |
| 2023-09-12 17:57:48 +0200 | notzmv | (~zmv@user/notzmv) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 17:57:48 +0200 | <blomberg> | int-e: nothing you mentioned let, so i said to you, that's irrelevant to my quesiton, please don't digress furthere |
| 2023-09-12 17:57:49 +0200 | <EvanR> | surface syntax is just sugar |
| 2023-09-12 17:57:57 +0200 | <blomberg> | EvanR: yes |
| 2023-09-12 17:58:05 +0200 | <EvanR> | so there you go |
| 2023-09-12 17:58:14 +0200 | <EvanR> | next |
| 2023-09-12 17:58:18 +0200 | <blomberg> | EvanR: f x |x<3 = g^2 where g | x>3 = h where h --h and g are the expanded defintions of the functions -- i can't be more clear than this |
| 2023-09-12 17:58:53 +0200 | <int-e> | That's not a question. |
| 2023-09-12 17:58:56 +0200 | <yushyin> | you can repost your code many times, but that doesn't make it more clear what your actual question is |
| 2023-09-12 17:59:01 +0200 | <EvanR> | also that's highly repetitious chat |
| 2023-09-12 17:59:04 +0200 | <blomberg> | so what about in this case : where g ; g is not a function borrowed from outside but is defined |
| 2023-09-12 17:59:24 +0200 | <int-e> | (Saying that your question is clear doesn't do anything to clarify your question.) |
| 2023-09-12 17:59:49 +0200 | <EvanR> | blomberg what are you actually asking |
| 2023-09-12 17:59:54 +0200 | <blomberg> | EvanR: f x |x<3 = g^2 where g x = x | x>3 = h where h x = x*2 |
| 2023-09-12 17:59:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you keep saying "curried"; it seems to have nothing to do with your question |
| 2023-09-12 18:00:29 +0200 | <EvanR> | maybe go get your question and code together in a compact form and come back with a link to it |
| 2023-09-12 18:00:39 +0200 | kuribas | (~user@ip-188-118-57-242.reverse.destiny.be) (Quit: ERC (IRC client for Emacs 27.1)) |
| 2023-09-12 18:00:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if your question is "where are g and h in scope" then the answer is that "g" is in scope in "f" and "h" is in scope in "g" |
| 2023-09-12 18:00:52 +0200 | <blomberg> | EvanR: f x |x<3 = g^2 where g x = x | x>3 = h where h x = x*2 --ok edited, are both g and h inside f ?so my question is can i have multiple functions "SIDE BY SIDE" |
| 2023-09-12 18:01:11 +0200 | <EvanR> | go edit it more and come back |
| 2023-09-12 18:01:18 +0200 | <EvanR> | instead of reposting over and over |
| 2023-09-12 18:01:20 +0200 | <blomberg> | what ? |
| 2023-09-12 18:01:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you can define "h" in the same where block as "g" and then it will be in scope in "f" |
| 2023-09-12 18:01:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if you define it in its own "where" block, that block is local to the definition of "g" |
| 2023-09-12 18:01:55 +0200 | <blomberg> | geekosaur: ok thx that's what i was asking, but the problem is it's not purely functional |
| 2023-09-12 18:02:00 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so? |
| 2023-09-12 18:03:26 +0200 | <blomberg> | {where h x = x*2; g x = g^2; } now these functions are defined SIDE BY SIDE |
| 2023-09-12 18:03:31 +0200 | <EvanR> | where is attached to the definitions, rather than expressions, that might help you |
| 2023-09-12 18:03:34 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that has to do with the difference between evaluation and execution, not with scoping |
| 2023-09-12 18:03:48 +0200 | ddellacosta | (~ddellacos@ool-44c738de.dyn.optonline.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 18:03:56 +0200 | <blomberg> | EvanR: yes so it's not purely functional |
| 2023-09-12 18:03:58 +0200 | <EvanR> | first where is attached to the definition for f, second where is attached to definition for g, which is inside the first where |
| 2023-09-12 18:04:22 +0200 | <blomberg> | EvanR: yes but it's not purely functional |
| 2023-09-12 18:04:31 +0200 | <geekosaur> | also what you just wrote is a type error because you used "g" both as a function and as a value, but I suspect you meant "x" for the second |
| 2023-09-12 18:04:46 +0200 | <EvanR> | all 3 functions are purely functional functions |
| 2023-09-12 18:04:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | also there is nothing there so far that is not purely functional |
| 2023-09-12 18:05:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | what do you believe "purely functional" means? |
| 2023-09-12 18:05:28 +0200 | Square2 | (~Square4@user/square) |
| 2023-09-12 18:05:40 +0200 | <int-e> | . o O ( bland, not curried ) |
| 2023-09-12 18:05:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I really think you need to take a turn through the haskell wikibook at least to learn what Haskellers mean by things like "currying" and "purely functional" |
| 2023-09-12 18:06:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | because you're just causing confusion when you use them to mean something else |
| 2023-09-12 18:06:08 +0200 | <blomberg> | well \x -> (\y -> (\z > value )) #this is curried but \x->(\y->value1 ; \z->value2) --look this is not curried |
| 2023-09-12 18:06:19 +0200 | <int-e> | what is ";'? |
| 2023-09-12 18:06:28 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | was going to ask the same |
| 2023-09-12 18:06:30 +0200 | <int-e> | you're making up syntax that doesn't exist |
| 2023-09-12 18:06:39 +0200 | <int-e> | (in Haskell) |
| 2023-09-12 18:06:44 +0200 | <blomberg> | ; is the "uncurry" that I just prepared for you int-e as my dish |
| 2023-09-12 18:07:11 +0200 | danse-nr3__ | smells trolling |
| 2023-09-12 18:07:14 +0200 | <blomberg> | int-e: in where that's where ; came from in my haskell code that you don't pay attention to |
| 2023-09-12 18:07:24 +0200 | Square | (~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 18:07:27 +0200 | <EvanR> | it's not valid |
| 2023-09-12 18:07:31 +0200 | <blomberg> | danse-nr3__: i am very serious |
| 2023-09-12 18:07:46 +0200 | <EvanR> | your code is wrong |
| 2023-09-12 18:08:06 +0200 | <blomberg> | {where h x = x*2; g x = g^2; } that's where the ; comes from it's the "uncurry" guys i have been reiterating to you over and over without trolling |
| 2023-09-12 18:08:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | uncurry means turning (a, b) -> c into a -> b -> c. no semicolons involved |
| 2023-09-12 18:08:19 +0200 | <yushyin> | blomberg: it's not |
| 2023-09-12 18:08:32 +0200 | <blomberg> | but you seem to take the ; as my uncurry dish just for you to eat and taste the uncurry!!!! |
| 2023-09-12 18:08:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | we have no idea what you are trying to say when you say "uncurry" because it's not that |
| 2023-09-12 18:08:51 +0200 | <EvanR> | :t uncurry |
| 2023-09-12 18:08:52 +0200 | <lambdabot> | (a -> b -> c) -> (a, b) -> c |
| 2023-09-12 18:08:58 +0200 | int-e | leans back pointing towards https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/haskellch4.html |
| 2023-09-12 18:08:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | reversed, sigh |
| 2023-09-12 18:09:16 +0200 | qqq | (~qqq@92.43.167.61) |
| 2023-09-12 18:09:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | in any case you may not be trolling but you are refusing to use terminology that will be understood and blaming us for it |
| 2023-09-12 18:09:56 +0200 | <shapr> | uh oh, do I need my hat of power? |
| 2023-09-12 18:09:56 +0200 | <blomberg> | evan (a,b) is my (a;b) assuming a and b are functions that's the uncurry |
| 2023-09-12 18:10:14 +0200 | <blomberg> | EvanR:so how does haskell curry that up as it's side by side |
| 2023-09-12 18:10:17 +0200 | <EvanR> | uncurry takes a function and a pair, not two functions |
| 2023-09-12 18:10:23 +0200 | ChanServ | +o shapr |
| 2023-09-12 18:10:23 +0200 | <blomberg> | side by side pay attention to this word |
| 2023-09-12 18:10:56 +0200 | <shapr> | blomberg: if several people are taking issue with how you are expressing things, it may be a good time to consider what they are saying |
| 2023-09-12 18:12:44 +0200 | <shapr> | you don't have to, but the alternative is likely removal from the discussion |
| 2023-09-12 18:12:47 +0200 | <blomberg> | f->g->h that's fine i have no problem, but f->(g,h) that's i don't understand wehre is the explanation in https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/haskellch4.html |
| 2023-09-12 18:13:42 +0200 | <int-e> | FWIW the point of that link was that declarations and bindings are quite different from lambda abstractions. |
| 2023-09-12 18:13:57 +0200 | exarkun | (~exarkun@user/exarkun) (Server closed connection) |
| 2023-09-12 18:14:07 +0200 | ddellacosta | (~ddellacos@ool-44c738de.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 2023-09-12 18:14:30 +0200 | machinedgod | (~machinedg@d198-53-218-113.abhsia.telus.net) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 18:14:53 +0200 | <blomberg> | int-e: in what way |
| 2023-09-12 18:15:02 +0200 | <int-e> | you wouldn't understand |
| 2023-09-12 18:15:09 +0200 | Unicorn_Princess | (~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542) |
| 2023-09-12 18:15:14 +0200 | <yushyin> | perhaps learning haskell via a repl (ghci, lambdabot, yahb2) and using expanded layout syntax is not the most appropriate way, it seems to confuse you |
| 2023-09-12 18:15:19 +0200 | <blomberg> | i know lambda calculus |
| 2023-09-12 18:15:21 +0200 | exarkun | (~exarkun@user/exarkun) |
| 2023-09-12 18:15:28 +0200 | <shapr> | exarkun: hi, how's code? |
| 2023-09-12 18:16:04 +0200 | <exarkun> | Hi shapr |
| 2023-09-12 18:16:20 +0200 | <exarkun> | I have a function, `decode`, that takes a list of erasure-coded values. The list might be longer than the minimum threshold required to recover the encoded data. |
| 2023-09-12 18:16:31 +0200 | <exarkun> | Also I have cryptographic hashes of chunks of both the inputs and outputs to the erasure coding process |
| 2023-09-12 18:16:47 +0200 | <shapr> | ooh, this sounds like fun |
| 2023-09-12 18:16:53 +0200 | <exarkun> | My function currently does not verify the hashes, it just takes the minimum number of required values and throws them at the decoder |
| 2023-09-12 18:17:32 +0200 | <exarkun> | But now I would like it to verify the hashes, and also I would like it to recover with per-"chunk" granularity to hash verification failures (where possible) |
| 2023-09-12 18:18:02 +0200 | <exarkun> | Should be kind of straightforward right? |
| 2023-09-12 18:18:14 +0200 | <shapr> | I dunno, is the code in a repo I can see? |
| 2023-09-12 18:18:47 +0200 | segfaultfizzbuzz | (~segfaultf@12.172.217.142) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 18:18:49 +0200 | <shapr> | Does order matter when handing chunks to erasure decode? |
| 2023-09-12 18:18:52 +0200 | <exarkun> | Also I have a property test that throws what should be fatal corruption into the encoded data and verifies it no longer decodes (but I don't have one that throws supposedly non-fatal corruption in and verifies that it still does yet) |
| 2023-09-12 18:19:00 +0200 | <exarkun> | yes, it does |
| 2023-09-12 18:19:27 +0200 | <shapr> | Is order something you can determine from only the values? |
| 2023-09-12 18:19:53 +0200 | <exarkun> | The code is here, https://whetstone.private.storage/privatestorage/tahoe-chk/-/tree/20.validate-share-blocks?ref_typ… |
| 2023-09-12 18:20:01 +0200 | <exarkun> | no, you have to keep track of it |
| 2023-09-12 18:20:04 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@088-129-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 18:20:36 +0200 | <exarkun> | The function takes the values to be decoded as a [(Int, Share)], where that Int needs to be passed along to the decoder |
| 2023-09-12 18:20:45 +0200 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@104-55-37-220.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2023-09-12 18:21:21 +0200 | <exarkun> | The function that needs to do this work is Tahoe.CHK.decode (src/Tahoe/CHK.hs) |
| 2023-09-12 18:22:33 +0200 | <exarkun> | The Share record has `shareBlocks` that gives a list of the chunks (maybe I should start calling them "blocks" now) |
| 2023-09-12 18:22:49 +0200 | <exarkun> | It also has `shareBlockHashTree`, a merkle tree of the correct hashes of each block |
| 2023-09-12 18:24:40 +0200 | <exarkun> | So, eg, `zipWith someHashCheckFunction (leafHashes . shareBlockHashTree $ share) (shareBlocks share)` would tell you something I think - give you a list of bools of the validity of each block of one share. |
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| 2023-09-12 18:27:28 +0200 | <mauke> | did you know that your haskell program can use a lot more memory than expected if you accidentally innerJoin an unrelated table (with no condition) to your main query? |
| 2023-09-12 18:27:31 +0200 | <mauke> | sigh |
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| 2023-09-12 18:30:05 +0200 | <shapr> | exarkun: it's too bad the order can't be determined from the values themselves |
| 2023-09-12 18:30:23 +0200 | <danse-nr3__> | which library mauke? |
| 2023-09-12 18:30:25 +0200 | <exarkun> | shapr: Tell me more |
| 2023-09-12 18:30:38 +0200 | <mauke> | danse-nr3__: for SQL? selda |
| 2023-09-12 18:30:59 +0200 | <shapr> | it'd just be easier to pitch whatever subset you get into the erasure decoder |
| 2023-09-12 18:31:07 +0200 | shapr | -o shapr |
| 2023-09-12 18:31:12 +0200 | _d0t | (~{-d0t-}@user/-d0t-/x-7915216) |
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| 2023-09-12 18:31:28 +0200 | <exarkun> | shapr: As a bonus, the erasure decoder I have uses `error` if you give it the wrong number of things |
| 2023-09-12 18:32:17 +0200 | <exarkun> | shapr: Or if the inputs aren't all the same length |
| 2023-09-12 18:32:22 +0200 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@104-55-37-220.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 18:32:44 +0200 | <exarkun> | shapr: Or if you double up on any block numbers |
| 2023-09-12 18:33:34 +0200 | <exarkun> | shapr: I imagine we can just pretend (Int, ByteString) is the block and work around that structure where necessary? |
| 2023-09-12 18:33:50 +0200 | <shapr> | yeah |
| 2023-09-12 18:35:22 +0200 | <shapr> | hm, I get failures running the test suite, is that expected? |
| 2023-09-12 18:36:03 +0200 | <exarkun> | "decode signals error if the integrity of the shares is compromised" should fail, that's the property test that checks whether bad blocks are detected |
| 2023-09-12 18:36:21 +0200 | <exarkun> | sometimes ~70 other tests fail because the erasure decoder bindings are buggy! |
| 2023-09-12 18:36:57 +0200 | <exarkun> | but just run it again, eventually they'll pass ;) |
| 2023-09-12 18:37:06 +0200 | <shapr> | Yeah, only that one failed for me |
| 2023-09-12 18:37:17 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2023-09-12 18:37:36 +0200 | <exarkun> | That one should have something like `│ BlockBitFlips [ [ "a" ] , [ "a" ] ]` in its output |
| 2023-09-12 18:38:05 +0200 | <exarkun> | That says "I xor'd the blocks of both shares with "a" and then ran the decoder" |
| 2023-09-12 18:38:33 +0200 | <exarkun> | And then `diff True (==) (isLeft result)` fails because the decoder doesn't notice the corruption and just gives back some result |
| 2023-09-12 18:39:18 +0200 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 18:39:32 +0200 | <exarkun> | (Hedgehog.Gen.bytes shrinks towards "a" which was a little surprising, but okay fine) |
| 2023-09-12 18:42:33 +0200 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) |
| 2023-09-12 18:44:12 +0200 | <shapr> | exarkun: is it possible the corruption produces a valid value? |
| 2023-09-12 18:44:30 +0200 | <exarkun> | shapr: Corruption can't be detected by looking at only the values |
| 2023-09-12 18:44:38 +0200 | sm | (~sm@plaintextaccounting/sm) (Quit: sm) |
| 2023-09-12 18:44:41 +0200 | <exarkun> | shapr: So working on corrupt inputs _will_ give you _some_ output |
| 2023-09-12 18:44:46 +0200 | <shapr> | oh |
| 2023-09-12 18:47:32 +0200 | <shapr> | I think you said one of your inputs is the hash of the correct output? Is that how you would detect corrupted data? |
| 2023-09-12 18:47:41 +0200 | <exarkun> | yes |
| 2023-09-12 18:47:45 +0200 | <exarkun> | Or |
| 2023-09-12 18:48:02 +0200 | <exarkun> | I have two things, I'm not sure which one it makes more sense to use |
| 2023-09-12 18:48:30 +0200 | <exarkun> | The inputs to the erasure decoder are "blocks" and the outputs are "segments". I have hashes of all of the blocks and all of the segments. |
| 2023-09-12 18:48:45 +0200 | <exarkun> | So I could check before decoding or after |
| 2023-09-12 18:50:13 +0200 | <exarkun> | there are k times more blocks than segments, so checking the blocks is k times more expensive (I guess) |
| 2023-09-12 18:50:27 +0200 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2023-09-12 18:50:29 +0200 | <exarkun> | but you can't check segments until you've finished decoding, so checking segments incurs all of the decoding cost |
| 2023-09-12 18:50:51 +0200 | <exarkun> | so performance-wise I don't see an obvious winner |
| 2023-09-12 18:51:18 +0200 | <exarkun> | in terms of correctness, checking segments means you'll catch bugs in the decoder in addition to corrupt blocks |
| 2023-09-12 18:51:27 +0200 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) |
| 2023-09-12 18:51:44 +0200 | <exarkun> | (and there's definitely at least one of those right now!) |
| 2023-09-12 18:51:53 +0200 | <shapr> | is this pure Haskell code where you can lazily check both as you go? |
| 2023-09-12 18:53:14 +0200 | <shapr> | I like the using a lazy list as control flow, perhaps more than I should. |
| 2023-09-12 18:53:23 +0200 | <exarkun> | The decoder is C but everything around it is Haskell. I think the decoder being C gets rid of the chance to have smaller-than-a-block laziness, but doesn't cause problems otherwise (and none of the hashes help with smaller-than-a-block stuff anyway) |
| 2023-09-12 18:53:56 +0200 | <exarkun> | yea I think I know what you mean. I almost feel like the return type of this function should be [IO (Either SomeError ByteString)]. |
| 2023-09-12 18:54:06 +0200 | waleee | (~waleee@2001:9b0:21c:4000:5bf9:6515:c030:57b7) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 18:54:15 +0200 | <exarkun> | instead of IO Either (SomeError ByteString) |
| 2023-09-12 18:54:32 +0200 | <shapr> | How difficult is a pure Haskell decoder? Would that be a useful oracle to see if bugs are present in the C code? |
| 2023-09-12 18:54:40 +0200 | <exarkun> | I wonder if that version would actually be even easier to write, hm |
| 2023-09-12 18:55:47 +0200 | <exarkun> | the C code is only about 500 lines of dense matrix manipulation code... |
| 2023-09-12 18:55:48 +0200 | blomberg | (~default_u@117.200.7.49) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 18:56:10 +0200 | <shapr> | :-( |
| 2023-09-12 18:56:12 +0200 | <exarkun> | plus there's a paper to go with it! |
| 2023-09-12 18:56:21 +0200 | <shapr> | ooh, bonus fun! |
| 2023-09-12 18:56:56 +0200 | <exarkun> | at some point I will have to tackle the decoder directly, to find out why its results get randomly corrupted somehow |
| 2023-09-12 18:57:13 +0200 | <exarkun> | but I think for adding this validation it's a red herring |
| 2023-09-12 18:57:37 +0200 | <EvanR> | C applied for its strengths: numeric code |
| 2023-09-12 18:57:59 +0200 | <EvanR> | where has all the fortran gone |
| 2023-09-12 18:59:36 +0200 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-09-12 19:01:05 +0200 | <shapr> | exarkun: I got a bugfix PR for my testing library from someone I met at ICFP, that's how code is going for me |
| 2023-09-12 19:01:14 +0200 | <exarkun> | shapr: nice |
| 2023-09-12 19:01:34 +0200 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@2600:1700:38c5:d800:f9cc:9bb3:d19d:9050) |
| 2023-09-12 19:01:40 +0200 | <shapr> | turns out if you sass QuickCheck hard enough, a PhD will immediately be dispatched to your location |
| 2023-09-12 19:01:46 +0200 | <shapr> | er, "a PhD student" |
| 2023-09-12 19:01:51 +0200 | ChaiTRex | (~ChaiTRex@user/chaitrex) |
| 2023-09-12 19:01:51 +0200 | <exarkun> | haha |
| 2023-09-12 19:02:19 +0200 | <exarkun> | is it a fun bug |
| 2023-09-12 19:02:46 +0200 | <shapr> | eh, not really. Seems that QuickCheck is now a full on batch testing tool instead of a true random tester as it was before |
| 2023-09-12 19:03:05 +0200 | <exarkun> | hm, what's the difference between those things? |
| 2023-09-12 19:03:09 +0200 | segfaultfizzbuzz | (~segfaultf@12.172.217.142) |
| 2023-09-12 19:03:39 +0200 | <shapr> | I was doing a loop of "run one property test, check coverage" and that caused QuickCheck to produce the same value over and over |
| 2023-09-12 19:03:47 +0200 | <exarkun> | ahh |
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| 2023-09-12 19:19:38 +0200 | <shapr> | exarkun: as far as I know, a real random test means a PRNG picks a value from the entire value range of the type you requested |
| 2023-09-12 19:20:10 +0200 | <shapr> | that's not quite the case anymore for QuickCheck; https://github.com/shapr/kudzu/issues/8#issuecomment-1709103689 |
| 2023-09-12 19:21:32 +0200 | chomwitt | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a0c:4d00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) |
| 2023-09-12 19:21:52 +0200 | <shapr> | QuickCheck returns the seed on failure: https://github.com/nick8325/quickcheck/blob/master/src/Test/QuickCheck/Test.hs#L130 |
| 2023-09-12 19:22:17 +0200 | <shapr> | (and the size, and last I checked you need both to get the exact value that failed the test) |
| 2023-09-12 19:22:59 +0200 | <shapr> | if it also returned the seed on success, I could extract the (seed,size) after each succees, and feed that into the next size 1 batch test |
| 2023-09-12 19:23:17 +0200 | <shapr> | so I may put up a PR and ask for feedback |
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| 2023-09-12 19:23:41 +0200 | <mauke> | seedback |
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| 2023-09-12 19:23:49 +0200 | <shapr> | :-D |
| 2023-09-12 19:24:20 +0200 | <shapr> | I gave a talk on kudzu at ICFP! Afterwards I got really interesting questions that I had never considered! |
| 2023-09-12 19:24:42 +0200 | <shapr> | I can barely wait for the final recording to be public so I can go listen to the questions, I was *way* too nervous to remember all of them. |
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