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2023-03-10 02:10:06 +0000 <jean-paul[m]> How do I pronounce the ~ in a constraint like DomEventType e0 'KeypressTag ~ Word?
2023-03-10 02:10:34 +0000 <jackdk> "equal"
2023-03-10 02:10:50 +0000 <jackdk> or "equal to", or "is", I suppose
2023-03-10 02:11:32 +0000 <jean-paul[m]> okay, so I might say "for a dom event type e0 keypress tag equal to word" then
2023-03-10 02:13:00 +0000 <jean-paul[m]> thanks
2023-03-10 02:13:59 +0000 <jackdk> anyway, operator `(~)` is type-level equality
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2023-03-10 05:28:40 +0000Guest13(~Guest13@250.79-105-213.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk)
2023-03-10 05:28:55 +0000 <Guest13> hi, im trying to learn the statemonad, but i dont think its what i thought it was
2023-03-10 05:29:09 +0000 <Guest13> https://wiki.haskell.org/State_Monad
2023-03-10 05:29:25 +0000 <Guest13> At its heart, a value of type (State s a) is a function from initial state s to final value a and final state s: (a,s).
2023-03-10 05:29:34 +0000 <Guest13> s -> (a,s)
2023-03-10 05:29:54 +0000 <Guest13> whats; i -> s -> (a,s) ?
2023-03-10 05:29:58 +0000 <Guest13> if its not a state?
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2023-03-10 08:28:27 +0000 <chreekat> Guest13: can you rephrase the question?
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2023-03-10 10:29:44 +0000 <absence> is there a trick to avoid duplication when converting sum types to/from string? https://play.haskell.org/saved/3PkbvbwB
2023-03-10 10:30:20 +0000 <c_wraith> sure. "string for " ++ \case ...
2023-03-10 10:30:43 +0000 <opqdonut> absence: you could also have a Data.Bimap.Bimap Choice String
2023-03-10 10:31:46 +0000 <c_wraith> oh, stringToChoice would need something like stripPrefix
2023-03-10 10:32:01 +0000 <absence> c_wraith: pretend that the "string for" doesn't follow a pattern you can exploit
2023-03-10 10:32:10 +0000 <c_wraith> then there's no duplication
2023-03-10 10:32:19 +0000 <absence> yes, the set of strings is duplicated
2023-03-10 10:32:29 +0000 <mauke> build a table
2023-03-10 10:32:44 +0000 <mauke> :t lookup
2023-03-10 10:32:45 +0000 <lambdabot> Eq a => a -> [(a, b)] -> Maybe b
2023-03-10 10:33:28 +0000 <absence> i guess i would need a table that can look up in both directions, is that what Bimap is, opqdonut ?
2023-03-10 10:33:53 +0000 <mauke> :t map (\(a, b) -> (b, b))
2023-03-10 10:33:54 +0000 <lambdabot> [(a, b)] -> [(b, b)]
2023-03-10 10:34:06 +0000 <mauke> :t map (\(a, b) -> (b, a))
2023-03-10 10:34:07 +0000 <lambdabot> [(b, a)] -> [(a, b)]
2023-03-10 10:34:51 +0000 <absence> one minor problem about that, is that choiceToString would return Maybe/Either, since the compiler can't know if the map contains all the cases
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2023-03-10 10:35:20 +0000 <opqdonut> absence: yep
2023-03-10 10:35:45 +0000 <mauke> :t fromJust
2023-03-10 10:35:46 +0000 <lambdabot> Maybe a -> a
2023-03-10 10:35:56 +0000 <absence> so i guess a "proper" solution would require template haskell or something?
2023-03-10 10:36:16 +0000 <opqdonut> you could use template haskell to generate those case expressions given a [(Choice,String)] yeah
2023-03-10 10:36:37 +0000 <opqdonut> but I'd just add a fromJust to the conversion function
2023-03-10 10:36:52 +0000 <opqdonut> unless you really really really want the compiler to check you implemented Choice->String for every constructor
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2023-03-10 10:38:20 +0000 <absence> i do, because otherwise it's too forget to update the lookup table when adding new constructors to the sum type...
2023-03-10 10:38:40 +0000 <absence> does such a library exist? i tried searching, but may have used the wrong terms
2023-03-10 10:38:54 +0000 <[Leary]> Perhaps justified-containers.
2023-03-10 10:39:33 +0000Lycurgus(~juan@user/Lycurgus)
2023-03-10 10:40:19 +0000 <[Leary]> Though at this point it's probably better to duplicate code.
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2023-03-10 10:42:52 +0000 <mauke> table = case mapM_ (`lookup` protoTable) [minBound .. maxBound] >> pure protoTable of Just x -> x; Nothing -> error "you forgot to update the lookup table" where protoTable = ...
2023-03-10 10:45:25 +0000 <absence> [Leary]: it doesn't seem like i can easily get a Key from a (Choice,String) pair, so i don't think it would work, but it looks like an interesting library
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2023-03-10 10:46:43 +0000 <absence> mauke: oof :)
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2023-03-10 10:48:27 +0000 <mauke> maybe the whole RHS can be lifted into TH; who knows
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2023-03-10 10:59:54 +0000 <dminuoso> /connect bnc_oftc
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2023-03-10 11:09:43 +0000 <[Leary]> @let invert f b = fst $ until ((b ==) . snd) ((id &&& f) . succ . fst) (id &&& f $ minBound)
2023-03-10 11:09:44 +0000 <lambdabot> Defined.
2023-03-10 11:09:49 +0000 <[Leary]> :t invert
2023-03-10 11:09:50 +0000 <lambdabot> (Eq b, Enum t, Bounded t) => (t -> b) -> b -> t
2023-03-10 11:10:05 +0000 <[Leary]> absence: Not really serious, but that's technically an option. :)
2023-03-10 11:10:20 +0000vpan(~0@212.117.1.172)
2023-03-10 11:11:29 +0000 <[Leary]> (since so long as you keep `choiceToString`, GHC will check exhaustivity)
2023-03-10 11:13:44 +0000 <[Leary]> You can get the same effect with "unsafe" lookup in `(id &&& choiceToString) <$> [minBound..maxBound]`.
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2023-03-10 11:37:28 +0000 <dminuoso> What's a minimal way to get the sizeof for a C struct?
2023-03-10 11:38:50 +0000 <c_wraith> the only correct way is to ask the C compiler that was used to compile the C code.
2023-03-10 11:39:35 +0000 <mauke> sizeof (struct X)
2023-03-10 11:39:38 +0000 <dminuoso> c_wraith: Out of curiosity, doesnt that mental model almost entirely make pre-compiled binaries a poor idea?
2023-03-10 11:40:07 +0000 <dminuoso> Since if you want to use an external library, there's no guarantee the header file you shove into your compiler will give the same result
2023-03-10 11:40:34 +0000merijn(~merijn@86-86-29-250.fixed.kpn.net)
2023-03-10 11:40:35 +0000 <mauke> define "no guarantee"
2023-03-10 11:40:54 +0000 <c_wraith> as a matter of fact, I've seen some pretty amazing error messages a friend reported when they changed between gcc and clang without updating all the binary dependencies.
2023-03-10 11:42:52 +0000 <c_wraith> anyway, dealing with that is what hsc2hs is for. https://ghc.gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/doc/users_guide/utils.html#writing-haskell-interfaces-to-c-code…
2023-03-10 11:43:22 +0000 <dminuoso> Mmm
2023-03-10 11:43:36 +0000 <dminuoso> Okay you know what, Ill make a heuristic. I just want to use crypt_r which needs an initializsed buffer for a struct.
2023-03-10 11:43:38 +0000 <c_wraith> its compilation process is to convert the file you provide into a C program that will insert all the values it knows and generate haskell source
2023-03-10 11:44:14 +0000 <dminuoso> The struct looks like its going to be 130ish KiB, so Ill just always allocate a 256KiB buffer, thatll have enough for padding and aligntmnet.,
2023-03-10 11:44:37 +0000 <dminuoso> Putting hsc2hs or c2hs into this for just a singular call seems like overkill
2023-03-10 11:44:45 +0000 <dminuoso> not to mention that I dont want to even think whether this is going to place nice with haskell.nix
2023-03-10 11:44:48 +0000 <c_wraith> or you could use the library I wrote for exactly that purpose like 15 years ago...
2023-03-10 11:44:48 +0000 <tomsmeding> for something that has "crypt" in the name I'd rather not rely on heuristics to avoid buffer overflows
2023-03-10 11:44:59 +0000 <dminuoso> c_wraith: whats that library?
2023-03-10 11:45:08 +0000 <c_wraith> which has even been maintained by my former employee!
2023-03-10 11:45:18 +0000 <c_wraith> err. employer
2023-03-10 11:45:19 +0000 <c_wraith> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/nano-cryptr
2023-03-10 11:45:44 +0000 <dminuoso> Wow okay. I did not expect that
2023-03-10 11:45:46 +0000 <dminuoso> Yes that works for me.
2023-03-10 11:46:04 +0000 <c_wraith> if you dig for the source, you'll find I did in fact use hsc files :)
2023-03-10 11:46:13 +0000 <dminuoso> Haha
2023-03-10 11:46:19 +0000 <dminuoso> `fptr <- mallocForeignPtrBytes (131232)`
2023-03-10 11:46:31 +0000 <dminuoso> That's brave.
2023-03-10 11:46:47 +0000 <dminuoso> Or is that the hsc2hs output
2023-03-10 11:46:49 +0000 <dminuoso> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/nano-cryptr-0.2.1/docs/src/System.Gnu.CryptR.html#cryptR
2023-03-10 11:46:55 +0000 <c_wraith> that's the output, yes.
2023-03-10 11:46:55 +0000 <tomsmeding> dminuoso: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/nano-cryptr-0.2.1/src/System/Gnu/CryptR.hsc
2023-03-10 11:46:56 +0000 <c_wraith> https://github.com/janrain/nano-cryptr/blob/master/System/Gnu/CryptR.hsc#L69
2023-03-10 11:46:59 +0000 <dminuoso> Ahh I see.
2023-03-10 11:47:07 +0000 <dminuoso> Okay yes perfekt
2023-03-10 11:48:06 +0000 <c_wraith> ok, I am amused that the hackage source code link shows the generated code rather than the actual hsc
2023-03-10 11:48:26 +0000 <dminuoso> https://hackage.haskell.org/packages/search?terms=crypt
2023-03-10 11:48:35 +0000 <dminuoso> Why did that not reveal nano-cryptr?
2023-03-10 11:48:51 +0000 <c_wraith> that's... an excellent question
2023-03-10 11:49:39 +0000 <mauke> whole word search
2023-03-10 11:49:43 +0000 <mauke> needs "cryptr"
2023-03-10 11:49:58 +0000 <c_wraith> well yes, that's the behavior. But why?
2023-03-10 11:51:23 +0000 <tomsmeding> it seems to also search in descriptions, so perhaps the solution is just to add a 'crypt' keyword to the description of the package
2023-03-10 11:52:13 +0000 <c_wraith> I guess I could update it, but I haven't actually touched that package in a decade. That's why I added other people as maintainers!
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2023-03-10 12:09:23 +0000 <dminuoso> c_wraith: Gah, its dependencies are too tight *sigh*
2023-03-10 12:09:34 +0000 <dminuoso> bytestring (>=0.9.1 && <0.11)
2023-03-10 12:09:35 +0000 <dminuoso> :S
2023-03-10 12:09:48 +0000 <c_wraith> eh, just allow-newer it. It's fine
2023-03-10 12:11:03 +0000 <dminuoso> Let's see if haskell.nix works with this
2023-03-10 12:11:23 +0000 <dminuoso> But you're right, this is fine
2023-03-10 12:11:30 +0000 <c_wraith> oh, right. that might be awkward. I guess you could vendor it or something
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2023-03-10 12:13:21 +0000 <dminuoso> Something tells me it should just work, though.
2023-03-10 12:13:41 +0000 <c_wraith> yeah, that's just a tight bound. It's not using anything specific to that version of bytestring
2023-03-10 12:14:13 +0000 <dminuoso> I mean haskell.nix doesnt have much magic inside, it pretty much extracts the build plan from cabal - so as long as the cabal.project file isnt hidden from it, it should just work.
2023-03-10 12:14:30 +0000 <c_wraith> ah, I see. Nice.
2023-03-10 12:15:01 +0000 <dminuoso> error: The Nixpkgs package set does not contain the package: crypt (system dependency).
2023-03-10 12:15:03 +0000 <dminuoso> Mmm
2023-03-10 12:15:44 +0000 <dminuoso> Ah it would have been nice if the package used pkgconfig-depends: libxcrypt
2023-03-10 12:15:52 +0000 <dminuoso> I guess Ill just vendor it
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2023-03-10 13:07:35 +0000 <mastarija> Is there a way to do two class instances like this:
2023-03-10 13:07:38 +0000 <mastarija> instance X (V [a]) w where ...
2023-03-10 13:07:42 +0000 <mastarija> instance X (V [a]) (V xs) where ...
2023-03-10 13:08:10 +0000 <mastarija> It seems like it's not possible, because it's not possible to tell the difference between the `w` and `V xs`, right?
2023-03-10 13:09:18 +0000 <dminuoso> Sure, you can make one instance overlapping or the other overlappable.
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2023-03-10 13:10:27 +0000 <mastarija> Aha, so I should make the first one overlappable
2023-03-10 13:10:37 +0000 <mastarija> I completely forgot about that...
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2023-03-10 13:53:59 +0000 <Athas> Oh, the new cabal-install is out?
2023-03-10 13:54:09 +0000 <Athas> Or is it just a release candidate?
2023-03-10 13:56:30 +0000 <geekosaur> official release is tomorrow but various thingshave already been updated for it
2023-03-10 13:57:03 +0000 <geekosaur> iirc it's mostly waiting on ghcup being ready for it
2023-03-10 13:57:17 +0000 <Athas> Great! I have been looking forward to this one.
2023-03-10 13:57:18 +0000 <Las[m]> Does anyone know if `quotRem` etc. optimise into bitshifts with constant divisors?
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2023-03-10 14:09:32 +0000 <geekosaur> I don't think it does, but you could inspect core to see
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2023-03-10 14:11:24 +0000 <Las[m]> It does seem to do it with divisors under 2^32. After 2^32 it uses divisions again for some reason.
2023-03-10 14:11:24 +0000 <Las[m]> Testing with powers of two to keep it simple.
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2023-03-10 14:15:37 +0000 <tomsmeding> Athas: this is the one with the xdg changes, right?
2023-03-10 14:15:58 +0000 <Athas> Yes.
2023-03-10 14:17:36 +0000 <geekosaur> which I've been running locally for several months
2023-03-10 14:18:26 +0000 <geekosaur> had to create a file ~/.cabal because one of the things hls does during figuring out the toolchain runs the wrong cabal
2023-03-10 14:18:49 +0000 <geekosaur> which should be fixed when ghcup has the right cabal as part of the toolchain
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2023-03-10 14:20:59 +0000 <Athas> Yes, I've also been running it locally, but many of my remote systems use a ghcup-managed cabal.
2023-03-10 14:21:07 +0000 <Athas> I'm looking forward to being able to use XDG everywhere.
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2023-03-10 14:45:44 +0000 <Philonous> Is there a reliable way to test that a finalizer is run when an object is garbage-collected? As in, I'd like to write a test and be able to say "at this point the finalizer should definitely have run"
2023-03-10 14:46:19 +0000 <Athas> You can have the finalizer write to a known IORef.
2023-03-10 14:46:29 +0000 <Athas> ...but are finalizers guaranteed to *ever* run?
2023-03-10 14:48:46 +0000 <Philonous> But finalizers seem rather tricky. For example, if the finalizer references the object it's attached to does that prevent it from being garbage collected
2023-03-10 14:49:26 +0000 <[exa]> Philonous: the gc is luckily smarter than that
2023-03-10 14:50:52 +0000 <[exa]> any specific use btw? IMO almost all finalizer usecases are better replaced by bracket
2023-03-10 14:50:52 +0000 <geekosaur> and has to bem since the point of it may be to release the reference (consider a ForeignPtr freeing a chunk of memory from C)
2023-03-10 14:51:41 +0000 <Philonous> OK, that's good to know, but I'm still worried I'll inadvertently prevent the finalizer from running, so I'd like to write a test. But I can't think of a reliable way of testing it
2023-03-10 14:52:02 +0000 <tomsmeding> Philonous: what Athas said?
2023-03-10 14:53:02 +0000 <Philonous> Maybe I can use »performMajorGC« to at least ensure the finalizer had a chance to run?
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2023-03-10 14:53:54 +0000 <[exa]> Philonous: it might give some confidence but I wouldn't rely on the test result for that
2023-03-10 14:55:17 +0000 <Athas> I once spent a bunch of time thinking about finalizers, and reached the conclusion never to use finalizers.
2023-03-10 14:58:19 +0000shriekingnoise(~shrieking@186.137.175.87)
2023-03-10 14:58:44 +0000 <Philonous> Maybe that's the right thing to do
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2023-03-10 15:03:14 +0000 <[exa]> Philonous: really depends on the usecase. e.g. there's the `mmap` package with default finalizers that un-mmap the vectors; it's nice and stuff but unless you magically tell the GC to free the stuff in time you'll suddenly end up hitting unexpected OS limits...so I went for doing it manually with bracket
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2023-03-10 15:08:08 +0000 <Athas> Yeah, exactly. I also pondered using finalizers to manage GPU memory.
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2023-03-10 15:08:37 +0000 <Athas> But the problem is that external out-of-resources conditions do not trigger Haskell garbage collection, so it's not really very automatic.
2023-03-10 15:08:58 +0000 <Athas> It just means it will start failing when it is put under pressure (which you will likely not test for).
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2023-03-10 15:22:56 +0000 <[exa]> Athas: julia folks have been struggling hard with the GPU finalizers lately
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2023-03-10 15:55:19 +0000 <absence> [Leary]: that invert function is certainly interesting :)
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2023-03-10 16:13:35 +0000 <Athas> [exa]: they will continue to struggle.
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2023-03-10 16:28:34 +0000 <[exa]> Athas: I know. (sad story tho)
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2023-03-10 16:30:30 +0000 <Athas> Actually, GPU memory may be one case where it is possible for finalizers to be robust, but you need serious engineering in order to make the GPU-allocation-code run the host garbage collector when it encounters GPU OOM.
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2023-03-10 16:33:08 +0000 <int-e> kuribas: http://paste.debian.net/1273610/ ...the linear types story in Idris 2 may still be evolving
2023-03-10 16:33:12 +0000 <[exa]> Athas: ...which kinda reduces down the oom-passing situation we also had with general linux and many other things, and I'm not aware of anyone who really solved that. :D
2023-03-10 16:33:38 +0000 <Athas> Well, Linux uses overcommit. I don't think standard GPU drivers do that.
2023-03-10 16:35:13 +0000freeside(~mengwong@103.252.202.85)
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2023-03-10 16:36:30 +0000 <int-e> OSs have mmap and swapping, either of which gives you the mechanism for overcommitting; GPUs don't do any of that.
2023-03-10 16:37:37 +0000 <int-e> (Well, I think. They certainly *could*, with main memory as the primary off-GPU storage...)
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2023-03-10 16:38:05 +0000 <[exa]> latest cuda docs might have some ugly spoilers in that regard
2023-03-10 16:38:25 +0000 <Athas> Yes, GPUs can do that, but they don't by default. (Actually, it's up to how the program allocates the memory.)
2023-03-10 16:39:25 +0000 <int-e> Maybe we should define what the OS equivalent is here; in my mental model, it's the GPU driver.
2023-03-10 16:41:40 +0000 <int-e> And I guess there's some swapping needed at that level for servers to satisfy cloud computing providers.
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2023-03-10 18:29:54 +0000 <roconnor> Is there a way to cabal test to rerun a particular test, or how would you recommend doing that?
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2023-03-10 18:38:24 +0000 <monochrom> I don't think cabal enumerates test cases at all.
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2023-03-10 18:39:24 +0000 <monochrom> Apart from allowing multiple "test-suite <name>" sections, then you can "cabal test <name> <name> ..."
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2023-03-10 18:40:26 +0000 <monochrom> Then you have to horribily make 100 test-suite sections for 100 test cases so you can elect to just run 1 of them. >:)
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2023-03-10 18:40:59 +0000 <monochrom> I am not sure I recommend it.
2023-03-10 18:41:39 +0000 <monochrom> But it's one of those times when the solution is unique, both "it's the best solution" and "it's the worst solution" are true.
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2023-03-10 18:45:51 +0000 <tdammers> roconnor: if you're using tasty, you can set tasty options through environment variables, e.g.: export TASTY_PATTERN=Some.Test.Case; cabal test
2023-03-10 18:46:05 +0000 <roconnor> oooh
2023-03-10 18:46:45 +0000 <tdammers> in theory there should also be a way of passing command-line arguments to the test suite through cabal test, but IME the required quoting/escaping becomes waaaaaay to complicated for a mere mortal like myself to perform reliably
2023-03-10 18:47:07 +0000 <edmundnoble> Usually I do `cabal run tests -- -p "mypattern"`, but I only have one test-suite usually
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2023-03-10 18:48:06 +0000 <roconnor> Oh if I can use -p like that, that seems easier.
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2023-03-10 18:49:03 +0000 <edmundnoble> I'm trying to add pretty-simple as a dependency to my cabal repl sessions without adding it as a dependency to the .cabal file. Is that even possible right now? I'm okay with using a bash alias or something. I tried `cabal repl -b pretty-simple` and it only works if I'm not already in a cabal project... I want to do this inside a project
2023-03-10 18:49:11 +0000 <edmundnoble> https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/1835 seems to say that it's broken or something
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2023-03-10 20:57:58 +0000 <johnw> akadude[m]: I imagine you can use pipes to do this same thing?
2023-03-10 20:58:41 +0000 <lyxia> When I cabal build a package it compiles, but when I cabal install it it fails. What could be going wrong?
2023-03-10 20:59:01 +0000 <lyxia> Also it's failing at compiling C code
2023-03-10 20:59:28 +0000 <lyxia> like a missing header which is in the same directory
2023-03-10 20:59:39 +0000 <dminuoso> lyxia: Can you share the output you are getting? Perhaps with increased verbosity to cabal
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2023-03-10 21:03:42 +0000 <lyxia> https://paste.debian.net/1273647/ and if you want to try and repro it's https://github.com/koka-lang/koka/
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2023-03-10 21:05:54 +0000 <lyxia> what does cabal install do anyway besides copying the one executable I care about? (there's no library)
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2023-03-10 21:06:21 +0000 <mauke> is that cabal build or cabal install?
2023-03-10 21:06:25 +0000 <lyxia> cabal install
2023-03-10 21:06:30 +0000 <lyxia> cabal build succeeds
2023-03-10 21:06:45 +0000 <mauke> with the same output?
2023-03-10 21:07:06 +0000 <lyxia> minus the error message at the end
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2023-03-10 21:09:35 +0000 <lyxia> hmm, cconsole.c is in the cabal file but not cconsole.h, how much should I bet that's the problem
2023-03-10 21:10:16 +0000 <dminuoso> You should bet after you made the tiny modification on the cabal file and already know the answer.
2023-03-10 21:10:22 +0000 <dminuoso> Potential to get rich here.
2023-03-10 21:10:27 +0000 <[Leary]> lyxia: That's my guess. Looking at another library, they put their c headers in extra-source-files.
2023-03-10 21:10:56 +0000 <lyxia> yup that did it
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2023-03-10 21:14:40 +0000 <akadude[m]> johnw: yes, thank you, seem so. However, I can't find a function what does to `Consumer` what `next` does to `Producer`, `:: Consumer' a m r -> m (Either r (a -> Consumer' a m r))`. That function is crucial to my case
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2023-03-10 21:22:40 +0000 <johnw> akadude[m]: It shouldn't be hard to write that function. If the Consumer value is of the `Request` constructor type, then that contains the function you want.
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2023-03-10 21:24:10 +0000 <akadude[m]> Mmm, so the constructors are exposed in the internal module, okay. I guess that's less work that with the monad-coroutine library. Thanks for advice
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2023-03-10 23:35:11 +0000 <sm> Your Haskell Tiny Game Jam judges sm and f-a are very pleased to announce.. the contest results!
2023-03-10 23:35:11 +0000 <sm> https://github.com/haskell-game/tiny-games-hs
2023-03-10 23:36:30 +0000 <EvanR> \o/
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