2022-11-16 00:01:06 +0100 | <int-e> | yes, lazy black-holing is related... but conflicts with what you want for SMP |
2022-11-16 00:01:35 +0100 | <dolio> | Sure. |
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2022-11-16 01:03:50 +0100 | <energizer> | why does haskell use ++ for concatenation? |
2022-11-16 01:03:57 +0100 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) |
2022-11-16 01:04:16 +0100 | <energizer> | instead of another symbol |
2022-11-16 01:04:48 +0100 | <monochrom> | Other FP people were already using it. |
2022-11-16 01:04:51 +0100 | <Axman6> | what symbol should it use? that's a pretty odd question |
2022-11-16 01:05:08 +0100 | <energizer> | monochrom: in what context? |
2022-11-16 01:05:16 +0100 | <energizer> | Axman6: there are a lot of symbols out there, why that one |
2022-11-16 01:05:27 +0100 | <Rembane> | <> is also used for concatenation |
2022-11-16 01:05:36 +0100 | <hpc> | > length ['\0'..] |
2022-11-16 01:05:38 +0100 | <lambdabot> | 1114112 |
2022-11-16 01:06:16 +0100 | <hpc> | eventually you just have to pick something |
2022-11-16 01:06:27 +0100 | <Axman6> | energizer: why not? |
2022-11-16 01:06:30 +0100 | <hpc> | why (>>=) either? |
2022-11-16 01:06:38 +0100 | mjs2600 | (~mjs2600@c-24-91-3-49.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) |
2022-11-16 01:06:41 +0100 | <hpc> | or (**) for exponentiation when it could be (^) |
2022-11-16 01:06:48 +0100 | <energizer> | Axman6: + is commutative, concatenation isn't |
2022-11-16 01:07:03 +0100 | <Axman6> | that's why we don't use (+) |
2022-11-16 01:07:42 +0100 | <EvanR> | concat isn't commutative, but we use a symmetric symbol anyway, why xD |
2022-11-16 01:07:49 +0100 | <money> | Face |
2022-11-16 01:08:16 +0100 | mjs2600 | (~mjs2600@c-24-91-3-49.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) |
2022-11-16 01:08:17 +0100 | <hpc> | EvanR: that's why i always use subtract instead of (-) |
2022-11-16 01:08:27 +0100 | <monochrom> | In some FP languages before Haskell, and in theoretical papers. |
2022-11-16 01:08:53 +0100 | <Axman6> | why do y we use + for addition? or / for division? or any symbol for anything? |
2022-11-16 01:08:55 +0100 | <monochrom> | You come across as refusing to believe it. |
2022-11-16 01:09:09 +0100 | <Axman6> | At least we're not using @@ like OCaml |
2022-11-16 01:09:16 +0100 | <EvanR> | or as I was told by a wrong school mate many years ago, subtraction is commutative too, you just don't know how yet |
2022-11-16 01:09:43 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@bb115-66-48-84.singnet.com.sg) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
2022-11-16 01:10:01 +0100 | <energizer> | monochrom: if the answer is "because that's how miranda did it" that's fine, but then i'll ask why did miranda |
2022-11-16 01:10:06 +0100 | <hpc> | subtraction is commutative, it's just addition with one of the arguments different :P |
2022-11-16 01:11:01 +0100 | <EvanR> | on the subject of + and @, a few days ago I was wondering about a programming languages where every ascii symbol was used for something that was obvious from outside programming. + does addition only, $ does money only, @ does email only, haha xD |
2022-11-16 01:11:20 +0100 | <EvanR> | % means percent |
2022-11-16 01:11:21 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:58:1: error: Variable not in scope: means :: t0 -> t ; ; <interactive>:58:7: error: Variable not in scope: percent |
2022-11-16 01:11:31 +0100 | <EvanR> | see, we're ridiculous |
2022-11-16 01:11:34 +0100 | <hpc> | energizer: eventually you have to ask why punch cards were 80 characters wide too |
2022-11-16 01:11:42 +0100 | <hpc> | sometimes people just make decisions about things |
2022-11-16 01:11:54 +0100 | <Rembane> | In APL they tried to use the most intuitive character for each operation, it's not clear if they succeeded, but they really tried. |
2022-11-16 01:12:38 +0100 | <energizer> | hpc: i heard a story that it's because they'd fit in the US dollar containers they had at the Treasury office across the street or something like that |
2022-11-16 01:12:41 +0100 | <geekosaur> | EvanR, sounds like some horrendous cross between (COBOL, Unison, etc.) and PL/I |
2022-11-16 01:12:52 +0100 | <energizer> | hpc: but i remember that being debunked |
2022-11-16 01:12:59 +0100 | <geekosaur> | they made 96 column punch cards |
2022-11-16 01:13:50 +0100 | bontaq | (~user@ool-45779fe5.dyn.optonline.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
2022-11-16 01:14:33 +0100 | <hpc> | geekosaur: that was actually just 8 punch cards turned sideways :P |
2022-11-16 01:15:18 +0100 | <energizer> | Rembane: certainly APL did a good job for a bunch of them. ⌈ ceil ⌊ floor ∣ absolute value ⌽ flip over vertical axis ⊖ flip over horizontal axis ⍉ flip over diagonal axis |
2022-11-16 01:16:02 +0100 | <geekosaur> | intuitive for whom, though |
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2022-11-16 01:16:46 +0100 | Kaipei | Kaiepi |
2022-11-16 01:16:47 +0100 | <energizer> | geekosaur: i claim ⌽ ⊖ ⍉ are intuitive for everybody |
2022-11-16 01:17:03 +0100 | king_gs | (~Thunderbi@2806:103e:29:bfeb:c988:bbd5:2586:4924) |
2022-11-16 01:17:11 +0100 | <Rembane> | energizer: Indeed. :) |
2022-11-16 01:17:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ι though |
2022-11-16 01:17:26 +0100 | <Rembane> | geekosaur: They are incredibly intuitive for those who know them. |
2022-11-16 01:17:31 +0100 | <hpc> | ⌽ could be the power off button |
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2022-11-16 01:34:02 +0100 | <EvanR> | the egyptians invented a horizontal line to mean fraction, I'm glad they figured that one out early |
2022-11-16 01:34:23 +0100 | Inst | (~Liam@c-98-208-218-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by sakura!~Inst@2601:6c4:4081:54f0:155b:1b8c:fa18:504e))) |
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2022-11-16 01:34:32 +0100 | <EvanR> | but it does render ⊖ confusing |
2022-11-16 01:34:36 +0100 | Inst | (~Inst@2601:6c4:4081:54f0:155b:1b8c:fa18:504e) |
2022-11-16 01:35:11 +0100 | <EvanR> | and thanks to that story about APL <|> will be confusing from now on |
2022-11-16 01:35:33 +0100 | <EvanR> | another very unsymmetric operation with a symmetric symbol |
2022-11-16 01:36:17 +0100 | <EvanR> | at least foldl and foldr aren't literally symmetric |
2022-11-16 01:36:24 +0100 | <Inst> | @hpc |
2022-11-16 01:36:24 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Maybe you meant: src rc pl ghc |
2022-11-16 01:36:27 +0100 | <Inst> | pred is better ;) |
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2022-11-16 01:40:53 +0100 | <monochrom> | ⌽ could be power off, ⊖ could be power on, and ⍉ could be both (when there is only one button) >:) |
2022-11-16 01:43:33 +0100 | sgarcia | (sgarcia@swarm.znchost.com) |
2022-11-16 01:46:15 +0100 | <EvanR> | 0V, 5V and 3.3V |
2022-11-16 01:46:35 +0100 | <EvanR> | and FILE NOT FOUND |
2022-11-16 01:46:40 +0100 | <Rembane> | The turbo button is important |
2022-11-16 01:47:31 +0100 | <int-e> | EvanR: don't forget open, and weak low (0V), weak high (whatever your nominal signal voltage is) |
2022-11-16 01:48:43 +0100 | <int-e> | (AIUI the weak outputs can put signal on low speed buses that can be overridden by other strong signals) |
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2022-11-16 02:03:27 +0100 | <monochrom> | "9-value logic" was what I heard for very serious digital circuits from IEEE. :) |
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2022-11-16 02:03:46 +0100 | <monochrom> | (I ran out of time, so I didn't investigate.) |
2022-11-16 02:04:34 +0100 | <EvanR> | sounds like an april fools on the level of UTF-9 |
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2022-11-16 02:06:44 +0100 | <davean> | monochrom: you mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1164 ? |
2022-11-16 02:07:33 +0100 | <monochrom> | I think yes! But it has been more than a decade. |
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2022-11-16 04:41:33 +0100 | <zzz> | ?pl uncurry f <$> zipWith a b |
2022-11-16 04:41:33 +0100 | <lambdabot> | uncurry f <$> zipWith a b |
2022-11-16 04:41:53 +0100 | <zzz> | ?pl uncurry f <$> zip a b |
2022-11-16 04:41:54 +0100 | <lambdabot> | uncurry f <$> zip a b |
2022-11-16 04:42:51 +0100 | <zzz> | wasn't there a lambdabot thing for turning for example this into `zipWIth f a b` |
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2022-11-16 04:46:53 +0100 | wroathe | (~wroathe@user/wroathe) |
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2022-11-16 04:47:17 +0100 | FinnElija | (~finn_elij@user/finn-elija/x-0085643) (Killed (NickServ (Forcing logout FinnElija -> finn_elija))) |
2022-11-16 04:47:17 +0100 | finn_elija | FinnElija |
2022-11-16 04:47:51 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@86-86-29-250.fixed.kpn.net) |
2022-11-16 04:47:55 +0100 | TheCoffeMaker | (~TheCoffeM@user/thecoffemaker) |
2022-11-16 04:50:09 +0100 | <int-e> | @pl map (uncurry f) (zip a b) |
2022-11-16 04:50:09 +0100 | <lambdabot> | zipWith f a b |
2022-11-16 04:50:22 +0100 | <int-e> | @pl fmap (uncurry f) (zip a b) |
2022-11-16 04:50:22 +0100 | <lambdabot> | fmap (uncurry f) (zip a b) |
2022-11-16 04:51:24 +0100 | vglfr | (~vglfr@145.224.100.22) |
2022-11-16 04:52:26 +0100 | <int-e> | @pl fmap f . fmap g |
2022-11-16 04:52:26 +0100 | <lambdabot> | fmap (f . g) |
2022-11-16 04:52:31 +0100 | werneta | (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
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2022-11-16 04:53:19 +0100 | <int-e> | Eh, @pl has a bunch of ad-hoc simplification rules. It also predates Applicative, so it wouldn't know about the <$> notation. |
2022-11-16 04:58:23 +0100 | Kaiepi | (~Kaiepi@108.175.84.104) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
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2022-11-16 05:02:46 +0100 | <Axman6> | feels like more of an hlint rule than a pointfree thing |
2022-11-16 05:04:13 +0100 | werneta | (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
2022-11-16 05:05:18 +0100 | TheCoffeMaker | (~TheCoffeM@user/thecoffemaker) |
2022-11-16 05:06:27 +0100 | Sauvin | (~sauvin@user/Sauvin) |
2022-11-16 05:06:43 +0100 | fjmorazan | (~quassel@user/fjmorazan) () |
2022-11-16 05:07:23 +0100 | fjmorazan | (~quassel@user/fjmorazan) |
2022-11-16 05:08:03 +0100 | <int-e> | Axman6: are you saying that improving the output of @pl is a pointless exercise... |
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2022-11-16 05:33:31 +0100 | <monochrom> | haha |
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2022-11-16 06:01:16 +0100 | <zzz> | i knew it |
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2022-11-16 07:55:35 +0100 | Kaiepi | (~Kaiepi@108.175.84.104) |
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2022-11-16 08:24:19 +0100 | <Inst> | ummm, i'm getting a really weird bug now |
2022-11-16 08:24:44 +0100 | <Inst> | something seems to be wrong with generateM |
2022-11-16 08:25:02 +0100 | Sgeo | (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
2022-11-16 08:29:50 +0100 | <Inst> | ah, i see what's going on, generate creates a traverse |
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2022-11-16 12:39:13 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: So I thought a while about your Array/Vector question. Without adding State# RealWorld to the implementation, you could also have parsers produce IO actions that copyBytes into a mutable array buffer. |
2022-11-16 12:39:34 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: However, the problem here is that you must extend the lifetime of the underyling bytestring until that IO action has been executed. |
2022-11-16 12:40:15 +0100 | <dminuoso> | But this could easily be done by a simple unsafePerformIO and some seq usage. |
2022-11-16 12:40:21 +0100 | <dminuoso> | That is, something along the lines of |
2022-11-16 12:41:13 +0100 | <dminuoso> | readThin :: Parser (IO ()); readThing = do { act1 <- readChunk 1024 mutvar; act2 <- readChunk 1024 mutvar; pure (act 1 >> act 2) } |
2022-11-16 12:41:45 +0100 | jakalx | (~jakalx@base.jakalx.net) (Error from remote client) |
2022-11-16 12:42:01 +0100 | <dminuoso> | And then as your final parser do something like `f = do { io <- readThing; pure $! unsafePerformIO io }` |
2022-11-16 12:42:29 +0100 | <dminuoso> | That way you a) dont have to worry about lifetime, and b) you will keep unsafePerformIO isolated into a singular spot, keeping the rest of the parser pure and sane |
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2022-11-16 12:48:06 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: however, keep in mind that given your specific problem domain, you likely cannot just naively copy buffers into a mutable vector anyway, because a string could have escaped sequences. So you will end up having to peek and poke a byte at a time with a small state machine? |
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2022-11-16 13:10:21 +0100 | <sshine> | I saw a package one time about a year ago that was plug-and-play for Megaparsec and provided some nice ASCII rendering around its errors. I think it was a generic framework for making any kind of (syntax?) error look nice. |
2022-11-16 13:10:30 +0100 | <sshine> | does anyone know what package I'm talking about? |
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2022-11-16 13:25:37 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: https://gist.github.com/dminuoso/6de513c3e98ba67588957c19ce4eacbd |
2022-11-16 13:25:39 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Maybe this? |
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2022-11-16 13:27:24 +0100 | <sshine> | diagnose! |
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2022-11-16 13:31:14 +0100 | <dminuoso> | You havent lived until you pattern match on an IO without hesitation. |
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2022-11-16 13:33:51 +0100 | <lortabac> | haha I only had to match on IO once because I had no choice and it was perfectly safe (all I did was newtype wrapping/unwrapping) |
2022-11-16 13:34:22 +0100 | <lortabac> | outside of that very limited case I wouldn't dare :s |
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2022-11-16 14:14:08 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: Im starting to like this, actually. https://gist.github.com/dminuoso/6de513c3e98ba67588957c19ce4eacbd#file-f-hs-L68-L79 |
2022-11-16 14:14:12 +0100 | <dminuoso> | I should upstream this |
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2022-11-16 14:25:31 +0100 | <[exa]> | dminuoso: ok wow |
2022-11-16 14:26:25 +0100 | bitdex_ | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) |
2022-11-16 14:27:05 +0100 | <carbolymer> | when I input a block of code in GHCi with :{ :}, how can I navigate between lines, e.g. go to line up? arrow up seems to go back in history instead |
2022-11-16 14:27:27 +0100 | <dminuoso> | carbolymer: I dont think you can. |
2022-11-16 14:27:33 +0100 | <carbolymer> | :| |
2022-11-16 14:27:44 +0100 | <carbolymer> | I should setup ihaskell one day |
2022-11-16 14:27:48 +0100 | <carbolymer> | with jupyter |
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2022-11-16 14:36:14 +0100 | cafkafk | just uses org-babel |
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2022-11-16 14:56:59 +0100 | <jean-paul[m]> | Why would you pattern match on IO? And also how |
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2022-11-16 15:00:32 +0100 | <lortabac> | jean-paul[m]: I'd say 99.99% of the time you don't need to know what's inside IO |
2022-11-16 15:01:06 +0100 | <jean-paul[m]> | lortabac: For me it is 100% so far. |
2022-11-16 15:01:24 +0100 | irrgit_ | (~irrgit@146.70.27.250) |
2022-11-16 15:01:40 +0100 | <jean-paul[m]> | But that 0.001% sounds like it might be fun stuff |
2022-11-16 15:02:08 +0100 | <lortabac> | in my case I was implementing an interpreter and "piggybacking" on Haskell's IO mechanism to implement the IO of the object language |
2022-11-16 15:02:08 +0100 | coot | (~coot@2a02:a310:e241:1b00:ec1a:e9df:79ac:66ba) |
2022-11-16 15:03:02 +0100 | <lortabac> | IIRC I had a newtype over IO, and I needed to replicate the same monadic behavior |
2022-11-16 15:03:34 +0100 | <lortabac> | I don't remember the exact details, but at some point I was obliged to look inside the IO constructor |
2022-11-16 15:04:39 +0100 | <lortabac> | very simple stuff, compared to what dminuoso is doing :D |
2022-11-16 15:04:43 +0100 | <jean-paul[m]> | Oh. And the IO constructor is just ... exposed. So it's not even that hard to look inside if you feel like it. I never thought to look. |
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2022-11-16 15:13:36 +0100 | <probie> | whatever happened to Arrows? They seemed to have a brief surge in popularity back in 2010? 2011? and then died out |
2022-11-16 15:16:55 +0100 | <probie> | (context: last time I directly pattern matched on IO, it was in an attempt to replace the "IO Monad" with the "IO Arrow" without just directly using `Kleisli IO`) |
2022-11-16 15:18:23 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@86-86-29-250.fixed.kpn.net) |
2022-11-16 15:18:55 +0100 | <dminuoso> | probie: Arrow has been superseeded by Applicative, Monad and Profunctor. |
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2022-11-16 15:19:59 +0100 | <dminuoso> | And Category I suppose |
2022-11-16 15:20:34 +0100 | <dminuoso> | I think the only arrow-type of interfaces still left around are in FRP |
2022-11-16 15:21:01 +0100 | <dminuoso> | jean-paul[m]: So the reason here is quite simple: I want guaranteed unboxing. |
2022-11-16 15:21:29 +0100 | <dminuoso> | jean-paul[m]: In flatparse, you have `newtype Parser e a = Parser {runParser# :: ForeignPtrContents -> Addr# -> Addr# -> Res# e a}` |
2022-11-16 15:21:51 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Where `type Res# e a = (# (# a, Addr# #) | (# #) | (# e #) #)` |
2022-11-16 15:23:09 +0100 | <probie> | dminuoso: Profunctor isn't in base though |
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2022-11-16 15:24:00 +0100 | <dminuoso> | probie: Yes, but things that want that kind of interface can simply depend on `profunctors` |
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2022-11-16 15:25:17 +0100 | <dminuoso> | So here comes the issue: When you want IOful parsers, you would have to conjure some kind of `newtype ParserIO e a = Parser {runParser# :: ForeignPtrContents -> Addr# -> Addr# -> IO (Res# e a) }` - however that wont type check as IO only works over boxed types. |
2022-11-16 15:25:37 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: hi |
2022-11-16 15:25:40 +0100 | <dminuoso> | jean-paul[m]: ^- so what you can simply do, is take IO apart, and weave the State# passing mechanism inside into the Parser function itself |
2022-11-16 15:25:55 +0100 | stiell | (~stiell@gateway/tor-sasl/stiell) |
2022-11-16 15:26:06 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: before reading your code, building up a huge thunk of IO actions seems not any better than just building the intermediate list? |
2022-11-16 15:26:23 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | ("thunk" is not the right word here, excuse me) |
2022-11-16 15:26:24 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: why would there be a *thunk*? |
2022-11-16 15:26:29 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yeah no thunk |
2022-11-16 15:26:40 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | but a large chain of closures referring to each other |
2022-11-16 15:26:40 +0100 | <dminuoso> | But yeah, you will have a lot of closure allocations |
2022-11-16 15:26:55 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: Therefore, let me introduce you to my final idea: ParserIO |
2022-11-16 15:26:59 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | indeed, one for every (:) in the naive version where you make the intermediate list :p |
2022-11-16 15:27:01 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | i.e. doesn't help |
2022-11-16 15:27:08 +0100 | <dminuoso> | https://gist.github.com/dminuoso/6de513c3e98ba67588957c19ce4eacbd |
2022-11-16 15:27:09 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | (I assume) |
2022-11-16 15:27:15 +0100 | AdamConner-Sax[m | (~adamcsmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1:e2c8) |
2022-11-16 15:27:34 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Ah there's some copy paste bugs left in there, let me fix them real quick |
2022-11-16 15:27:39 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | ah this is sortof similar-ish to 'ParserT IO'? |
2022-11-16 15:27:50 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Yeah |
2022-11-16 15:28:39 +0100 | <dminuoso> | None of it is tested, but Im confident this will work. |
2022-11-16 15:29:17 +0100 | <dminuoso> | (Should I mention I originally did have a bug making unsafeParserIO really an accursedUnutterableParserIO?) |
2022-11-16 15:29:56 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: why isthat unsafeCoerce# not unsafeCoerce |
2022-11-16 15:30:22 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Because these are unboxed tuples? |
2022-11-16 15:30:30 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | oh wait yes |
2022-11-16 15:30:49 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Those functor/applicative/monad instances are just boiler-plate copy and paste |
2022-11-16 15:31:06 +0100 | <dminuoso> | The neat stuff begins at line 51 |
2022-11-16 15:32:14 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I don't know enough about the IO implementation internals to say anything about the duplication :p |
2022-11-16 15:32:33 +0100 | InstX1 | (~Liam@c-98-208-218-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
2022-11-16 15:32:38 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: its really mundane, its just a direct mapping to how unsafePerformIO is implemented |
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2022-11-16 15:32:53 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yeah I've looked through those definitions at some point |
2022-11-16 15:32:55 +0100 | <dminuoso> | `noDuplicate# (s :: State# a)` is a kind of lock |
2022-11-16 15:33:04 +0100 | <dminuoso> | (think of it as acquiring a kind of mutex) |
2022-11-16 15:33:15 +0100 | <dminuoso> | and never releasing it |
2022-11-16 15:33:16 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | oh that no two threads evaluate that thunk simultaneously? |
2022-11-16 15:33:18 +0100 | <dminuoso> | yes |
2022-11-16 15:33:28 +0100 | <dminuoso> | noDuplicate = IO $ \s -> case noDuplicate# s of s' -> (# s', () #) |
2022-11-16 15:33:33 +0100 | <dminuoso> | unsafePerformIO m = unsafeDupablePerformIO (noDuplicate >> m) |
2022-11-16 15:34:36 +0100 | <dminuoso> | The entire construction of ParserIO is really harmless |
2022-11-16 15:34:53 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | looks cool |
2022-11-16 15:35:20 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I imagine you don't want to create yet another (third?) copy of the parser implementation in flatparse :p |
2022-11-16 15:35:23 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | Another question for understanding kinds and types... what does it mean if I give a class a kind signature like here: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/evYyAyYj |
2022-11-16 15:35:27 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | That the class can only have instances for [AccessLevel]? |
2022-11-16 15:35:34 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: Not needed, because you can just liftP all the Basic combinators in |
2022-11-16 15:35:47 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | fendor[m]: I guess this is easily tried :) |
2022-11-16 15:35:53 +0100 | <dminuoso> | And no stateful variant is needed, because I think this subsumes Stateful |
2022-11-16 15:35:57 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | seems the only sensible interpretation |
2022-11-16 15:36:06 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: ah right |
2022-11-16 15:36:08 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yeah |
2022-11-16 15:36:30 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | you'd want to {-# INLINE liftP #-} then though |
2022-11-16 15:36:38 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: only problem is going to be thing with Parser in negative position. Mmm |
2022-11-16 15:36:44 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | tomsmeding: fair, that's what it means apparently |
2022-11-16 15:36:44 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | or maybe rather, ensure that the argument to liftP is going to be inlined? |
2022-11-16 15:37:02 +0100 | <dminuoso> | so we need a kind of askUnliftIO variant for ParserIO |
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2022-11-16 15:37:40 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | but [AccessLevel] is not fundamentally different to Type, right? |
2022-11-16 15:37:47 +0100 | tomsmeding | is not sure that even makes much sense for ParserIO |
2022-11-16 15:37:52 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Ahh but no, it wont work because of that stateful address. :( |
2022-11-16 15:37:54 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | fendor[m]: well, it's a different kind |
2022-11-16 15:38:01 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: it absolutely would! |
2022-11-16 15:38:23 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: otherwise you couldnt make full use of things like `withByteString :: Parser r e a -> (a -> ByteString -> Parser r e b) -> Parser r e b |
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2022-11-16 15:38:47 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | I don't quite grasp what that entails. Is Type not some kind of super type of [AccessLevel]? |
2022-11-16 15:38:49 +0100 | <dminuoso> | liftP $ withByteString (\a buf -> ???) |
2022-11-16 15:39:11 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | fendor[m]: 4 is a value of type Int, which is of kind Type; 'True is a type of kind 'Bool |
2022-11-16 15:39:17 +0100 | <dminuoso> | And how do you parse an IOful parser to withByteString? |
2022-11-16 15:39:20 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | Type and '['AccessLevel] are kinds |
2022-11-16 15:39:51 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | though ghc has this type-in-type thing where types and kinds are secretly the same, so if you're asking about that then yes there is some tomfoolery going on |
2022-11-16 15:39:55 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | but apart from that, no |
2022-11-16 15:39:58 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: anyway, we *could* make an askUnliftIO thing, but this has a drastic price - namely that will interact subtly broken with respect to backtracking. |
2022-11-16 15:40:25 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: that sounds too scary to be admissible |
2022-11-16 15:40:40 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | I am very much confused 😄 'True is a promoted type constructor no? |
2022-11-16 15:40:41 +0100 | <dminuoso> | yeah, so I guess if you want this, you can no longer use any of the CPS things |
2022-11-16 15:40:47 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | fendor[m]: yes as in DataKinds |
2022-11-16 15:41:03 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | fendor[m]: your code would trigger -Wunticked-promoted-constructors if I'm not mistaken |
2022-11-16 15:41:17 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | not with ghc 9.4 where it is encouraged |
2022-11-16 15:41:25 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: unless they are reimplemented, right? |
2022-11-16 15:41:32 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: right. |
2022-11-16 15:41:47 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | fendor[m]: okay sure, but still, the fact that it _would_ is useful information here :p |
2022-11-16 15:42:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | 'True is a promoted data constructor |
2022-11-16 15:42:21 +0100 | <dminuoso> | but honestly its a non-issue. If you're in a spot where you *rely* on the performance advantage of the CPS version and *need* IO (you know, the 0 people out there currently), you are equipped to just rewrite this combinator yourself on the spot |
2022-11-16 15:42:31 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: :D |
2022-11-16 15:42:34 +0100 | <geekosaur> | 'Bool is a promoted type constructor |
2022-11-16 15:43:09 +0100 | <dminuoso> | geekosaur: mmm. I think the wording is poor either way. |
2022-11-16 15:43:25 +0100 | <dminuoso> | that is does "promoted type constructor" mean the resulting thing is a type, or that the original thing is a type? |
2022-11-16 15:44:16 +0100 | <dminuoso> | The GHC manual wording suggest calling 'True a promoted type constructor is fine. |
2022-11-16 15:44:26 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: curious how much the RealWorld passing influences performance |
2022-11-16 15:44:37 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: honestly probably not much at all. |
2022-11-16 15:44:54 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | what is the difference between a promoted data constructor and a promoted type constructor? |
2022-11-16 15:45:02 +0100 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5ce3:8500::4b68) |
2022-11-16 15:45:10 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: if it inlined+fused before, it will still inline+fuse (because State# RealWorld does not exist) |
2022-11-16 15:45:19 +0100 | <dminuoso> | if there's any penalty Im tempted to consider a GHC simplifier bug |
2022-11-16 15:45:36 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yay |
2022-11-16 15:45:43 +0100 | jero98772 | (~jero98772@2800:484:1d80:d8ce:efcc:cbb3:7f2a:6dff) |
2022-11-16 15:45:45 +0100 | <dminuoso> | because consider: we do have that Addr# threading that is in the way of the GHC simplifier |
2022-11-16 15:45:51 +0100 | <dminuoso> | so you cant just freely reorder things |
2022-11-16 15:46:10 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | fendor[m]: True/Just are data constructors, Bool/Maybe are type constructors |
2022-11-16 15:46:17 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | yeah |
2022-11-16 15:46:29 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | lifting True to the type level using DataKinds makes it a type constructor |
2022-11-16 15:47:04 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | so is 'True then a type constructor resulting from promotion (a "promoted type constructor"), or a promoted (data constructor) ("promoted data constructor")? |
2022-11-16 15:47:10 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | but terminology |
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2022-11-16 15:47:41 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | but yeah, so [AccessList] :: Type, but '['AccessList] is itself a kind |
2022-11-16 15:47:54 +0100 | <dminuoso> | The GHC uses phrases like `promoting a data constructor into a type`, "promoted type constructor" reads ambiguous to me |
2022-11-16 15:47:58 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | which is again of """kind""" Type in ghc because the hierarchy is forcibly flattened |
2022-11-16 15:48:22 +0100 | <dminuoso> | I would actually understand `promoted type constructor` to mean `a type constructor resulting from promotion` just from the English side of it |
2022-11-16 15:48:26 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | in a dependently-typed language with universe levels, you have values that have types that have kinds that have sorts that have... ad infinitum |
2022-11-16 15:48:35 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | and then '['AccessLevel] would not be in Type |
2022-11-16 15:48:46 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: I would read the opposite :p |
2022-11-16 15:48:51 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | so it's a bad phrase |
2022-11-16 15:49:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | as a native English speaker I find ghc's usage of it pretty obvious |
2022-11-16 15:49:31 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but ewhen it comes down to it, this needs to be described in some kind of formal language |
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2022-11-16 15:49:56 +0100 | <dminuoso> | does GHC use the phrase "promoted data constructor" anywhere? |
2022-11-16 15:49:58 +0100 | <geekosaur> | natural language, especially English (way too flexible!), kinda sucks for this kind of thing |
2022-11-16 15:50:12 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | but if I am not mistaken, '['AccessLevel] /~ ['AccessLevel]? |
2022-11-16 15:50:25 +0100 | <dminuoso> | fendor[m]: correct. |
2022-11-16 15:51:00 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Though ['AccessLevel] is ill-typed |
2022-11-16 15:51:12 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :k [] |
2022-11-16 15:51:12 +0100 | <yahb2> | [] :: * -> * |
2022-11-16 15:51:34 +0100 | <dminuoso> | (So Im not entirely sure whether asking whether two types are equal when one is ill-typed is sensible at all) |
2022-11-16 15:51:57 +0100 | <geekosaur> | doesn't ghc read that as '['AccessLevel] because it can't mean anything else? (which is kinda Englishing it) |
2022-11-16 15:52:05 +0100 | mastarija | (~mastarija@2a05:4f46:e03:6000:bd1:38d3:bfb:8169) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
2022-11-16 15:52:25 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :set -XDataKinds |
2022-11-16 15:52:25 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2022-11-16 15:52:31 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | then I am confused again what `type AcceptableList :: [AccessLevel] -> [AccessLevel] -> [AccessLevel] -> Constraint` means, if '[AccessLevel]' is supposed to be a kind? |
2022-11-16 15:52:42 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | fendor[m]: Type and Constraint are also kinds |
2022-11-16 15:52:42 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % data AccessLevel = N | R | X |
2022-11-16 15:52:42 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2022-11-16 15:52:49 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :k ['AccessLevel] |
2022-11-16 15:52:49 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | well, no it isn't, it is a type of some kind |
2022-11-16 15:52:49 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:2: error: ; Not in scope: data constructor ‘AccessLevel’ ; Perhaps you meant variable ‘$tcAccessLevel’ (<no location info>) |
2022-11-16 15:53:01 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Huh what? |
2022-11-16 15:53:17 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k '['AccessLevel] |
2022-11-16 15:53:17 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:15: error: parse error on input ‘]’ |
2022-11-16 15:53:22 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k '[ 'AccessLevel] |
2022-11-16 15:53:22 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:4: error: ; Not in scope: data constructor ‘AccessLevel’ ; Perhaps you meant variable ‘$tcAccessLevel’ (<no location info>) |
2022-11-16 15:53:31 +0100 | tomsmeding | confused |
2022-11-16 15:53:32 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :k 'AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 15:53:33 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:1: error: ; Not in scope: data constructor ‘AccessLevel’ ; Perhaps you meant variable ‘$tcAccessLevel’ (<no location info>) |
2022-11-16 15:53:34 +0100 | shriekingnoise | (~shrieking@186.137.167.202) |
2022-11-16 15:53:36 +0100 | acidjnk | (~acidjnk@p200300d6e7137a8274644e28d572a0cd.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
2022-11-16 15:53:38 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Maybe someone killed yahb in between? |
2022-11-16 15:53:38 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 15:53:38 +0100 | <yahb2> | AccessLevel :: * |
2022-11-16 15:53:48 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Oh maybe :k is just magically broken |
2022-11-16 15:53:48 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % '[Int] |
2022-11-16 15:53:48 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:76:3: error: parse error on input ‘Int’ |
2022-11-16 15:53:52 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k '[Int] |
2022-11-16 15:53:52 +0100 | <yahb2> | '[Int] :: [*] |
2022-11-16 15:53:54 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :kind! 'AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 15:53:54 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:1: error: ; Not in scope: data constructor ‘AccessLevel’ ; Perhaps you meant variable ‘$tcAccessLevel’ (<no location info>) |
2022-11-16 15:54:06 +0100 | <dminuoso> | What's going on here? |
2022-11-16 15:54:24 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Ah.. |
2022-11-16 15:54:33 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :kind! AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 15:54:34 +0100 | <yahb2> | AccessLevel :: * ; = AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 15:54:54 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :t (undefined :: ['AccessLevel]) |
2022-11-16 15:54:54 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:16: error: ; Not in scope: data constructor ‘AccessLevel’ ; Perhaps you meant variable ‘$tcAccessLevel’ (<no location info>) |
2022-11-16 15:55:14 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :set -XTypeInType |
2022-11-16 15:55:14 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2022-11-16 15:55:17 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :t (undefined :: ['AccessLevel]) |
2022-11-16 15:55:17 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:16: error: ; Not in scope: data constructor ‘AccessLevel’ ; Perhaps you meant variable ‘$tcAccessLevel’ (<no location info>) |
2022-11-16 15:55:17 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :t (undefined :: ['Int]) |
2022-11-16 15:55:18 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:16: error: Not in scope: data constructor ‘Int’ |
2022-11-16 15:55:29 +0100 | <dminuoso> | There's some really strange scoping rules |
2022-11-16 15:55:29 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yeah this makes sense |
2022-11-16 15:55:33 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | here we're writing a type |
2022-11-16 15:55:40 +0100 | <dminuoso> | 'AccessLevel is a type too. |
2022-11-16 15:55:45 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | no |
2022-11-16 15:55:48 +0100 | <dminuoso> | TypeInType. |
2022-11-16 15:55:48 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | 'N is is a type |
2022-11-16 15:55:51 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | 'AccessLevel is a kind |
2022-11-16 15:55:52 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | oh |
2022-11-16 15:56:16 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | ghc is complaining that it wants a _data constructor_ AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 15:56:35 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Oh hold on. |
2022-11-16 15:56:39 +0100 | <dminuoso> | I see what's going ong. |
2022-11-16 15:56:52 +0100 | <dminuoso> | The tick is asking for the *promoted* type constructor from a data constructor. |
2022-11-16 15:56:58 +0100 | <dminuoso> | But AccessLevel is not a data constructor. |
2022-11-16 15:57:10 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k '[Int] |
2022-11-16 15:57:10 +0100 | <yahb2> | '[Int] :: [*] |
2022-11-16 15:57:13 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k '[AccessLevel] |
2022-11-16 15:57:13 +0100 | <yahb2> | '[AccessLevel] :: [*] |
2022-11-16 15:57:15 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | wa |
2022-11-16 15:57:21 +0100 | <dminuoso> | How do we even resolve this ambiguity here? |
2022-11-16 15:57:49 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k (t :: '[AccessLevel]) |
2022-11-16 15:57:49 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:2: error: Not in scope: type variable ‘t’ |
2022-11-16 15:57:53 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :k 'N |
2022-11-16 15:57:53 +0100 | <yahb2> | 'N :: AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 15:57:57 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Is this the same type as: |
2022-11-16 15:58:02 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k forall (t :: '[AccessLevel]). t |
2022-11-16 15:58:02 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:14: error: ; • Expected a type, but ‘'[AccessLevel]’ has kind ‘[*]’ ; • In the kind ‘'[AccessLevel]’ ; In the type ‘forall (t :: '[AccessLevel]). t’ |
2022-11-16 15:58:04 +0100 | <dminuoso> | [AccessLevel]? |
2022-11-16 15:58:08 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k forall (t :: '[AccessLevel]). Proxy t |
2022-11-16 15:58:08 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:31: error: ; Not in scope: type constructor or class ‘Proxy’ ; Perhaps you meant ‘Proxy#’ (imported from GHC.Prim) |
2022-11-16 15:58:12 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | $ import Data.Proxy |
2022-11-16 15:58:14 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % import Data.Proxy |
2022-11-16 15:58:14 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2022-11-16 15:58:18 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k forall (t :: '[AccessLevel]). Proxy t |
2022-11-16 15:58:18 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:14: error: ; • Expected a type, but ‘'[AccessLevel]’ has kind ‘[*]’ ; • In the kind ‘'[AccessLevel]’ ; In the type ‘forall (t :: '[AccessLevel]). Proxy t’ |
2022-11-16 15:58:52 +0100 | <dminuoso> | okay I think I begin to understand how things fit together here |
2022-11-16 15:59:17 +0100 | <dminuoso> | So `AccessLevel` even before DataKinds is already a type constructor. DataKinds does not introduce a new type constructor |
2022-11-16 15:59:25 +0100 | <dminuoso> | At least not for AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 15:59:31 +0100 | <dminuoso> | So in some strange way:\ |
2022-11-16 15:59:39 +0100 | wroathe | (~wroathe@user/wroathe) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
2022-11-16 15:59:48 +0100 | <kronicmage> | anyone know how to use saltine secretbox w/ a preexisting key? |
2022-11-16 15:59:50 +0100 | <dminuoso> | N :: AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 15:59:51 +0100 | <dminuoso> | 'N :: AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 15:59:59 +0100 | <kronicmage> | trying to decrypt something with it but the library doesn't let me construct the Key type |
2022-11-16 16:00:00 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: I would expect that 'N :: 'AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 16:00:01 +0100 | <dminuoso> | And I think this is the same type (type id?) @ tomsmeding |
2022-11-16 16:00:19 +0100 | <dminuoso> | some really strange crossing of universes |
2022-11-16 16:00:28 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: but we're failing to put this in a context where we must put a kind |
2022-11-16 16:00:33 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | ':k' expects a type |
2022-11-16 16:00:37 +0100 | <dminuoso> | (So AccessLevel is inhabited by both types and values) |
2022-11-16 16:00:45 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | '[ 'AccessLevel] is supposed to be a _kind_ |
2022-11-16 16:00:47 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: No! |
2022-11-16 16:00:55 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: 'AccessLevel does not exist. |
2022-11-16 16:01:15 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Ticked type constructors arise from promoting the similarly named *data* constructors. |
2022-11-16 16:01:19 +0100 | <dminuoso> | But no AccessLevel data constructor exists. |
2022-11-16 16:01:37 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
2022-11-16 16:02:19 +0100 | <dminuoso> | The really problematic part is this phrase in the GHC manual |
2022-11-16 16:02:25 +0100 | <dminuoso> | `With DataKinds, GHC automatically promotes every datatype to be a kind and its (value) constructors to be type constructors. The following types` |
2022-11-16 16:02:30 +0100 | <dminuoso> | In TypeInType, this makes no sense. |
2022-11-16 16:02:38 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Because its a noop |
2022-11-16 16:02:40 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | isn't TypeInType the default |
2022-11-16 16:02:43 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Yes! Thats the point |
2022-11-16 16:02:50 +0100 | <dminuoso> | So AccessLevel already is a kind |
2022-11-16 16:02:54 +0100 | <dminuoso> | because kind is just type |
2022-11-16 16:02:57 +0100 | waleee | (~waleee@2001:9b0:213:7200:cc36:a556:b1e8:b340) |
2022-11-16 16:02:58 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Nothing gets created |
2022-11-16 16:03:08 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
2022-11-16 16:03:22 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | my life is a lie |
2022-11-16 16:03:26 +0100 | <dminuoso> | So like I said: |
2022-11-16 16:03:31 +0100 | <dminuoso> | N :: AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 16:03:33 +0100 | <dminuoso> | 'N :: AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 16:03:33 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I thought that ' promoted data constructs to type constructors and type constructors to kind constructors |
2022-11-16 16:03:34 +0100 | <dminuoso> | This describes it best |
2022-11-16 16:03:39 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | but the latter is apparently incorrect |
2022-11-16 16:03:43 +0100 | <dminuoso> | (thats some mindblowing revelation) |
2022-11-16 16:03:47 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | so if you -XNoTypeInType, one cannot write the AccessLevel kind? |
2022-11-16 16:03:55 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | that's terribly dumb |
2022-11-16 16:03:56 +0100 | <dminuoso> | NoTypeInType does not turn TypeInType off. |
2022-11-16 16:04:20 +0100 | razetime | (~quassel@117.254.35.168) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
2022-11-16 16:04:28 +0100 | <dminuoso> | 16:03:47 tomsmeding | so if you -XNoTypeInType, one cannot write the AccessLevel kind? |
2022-11-16 16:04:32 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Let's try |
2022-11-16 16:04:37 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :set -XNoTypeInType |
2022-11-16 16:04:37 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2022-11-16 16:04:45 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :k ('N :: Accesslevel) |
2022-11-16 16:04:45 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:8: error: ; Not in scope: type constructor or class ‘Accesslevel’ ; Perhaps you meant ‘AccessLevel’ (line 64) |
2022-11-16 16:04:48 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :k ('N :: AccessLevel) |
2022-11-16 16:04:48 +0100 | <yahb2> | ('N :: AccessLevel) :: AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 16:04:53 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Err what? |
2022-11-16 16:04:55 +0100 | simpleauthority | (~simpleaut@user/simpleauthority) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
2022-11-16 16:05:01 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Oh yes. |
2022-11-16 16:05:09 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % :t (N :: AccessLevel) |
2022-11-16 16:05:09 +0100 | <yahb2> | (N :: AccessLevel) :: AccessLevel |
2022-11-16 16:05:21 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: Like I said, you cant turn it off. Im not quite sure what TypeInType actually turns on, but its not TypeInType. |
2022-11-16 16:05:33 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | kronicmage: Key implements IsEncoding, which provides 'decode' |
2022-11-16 16:05:53 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Ah, the extensions is deprecated and its sole effect is to switch on PolyKinds :D |
2022-11-16 16:05:58 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | lol |
2022-11-16 16:06:03 +0100 | <dminuoso> | https://ghc.gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/doc/users_guide/exts/poly_kinds.html#kind-polymorphism |
2022-11-16 16:06:33 +0100 | <dminuoso> | geekosaur: okay. since we have that covered... |
2022-11-16 16:06:52 +0100 | <dminuoso> | differentiating between promoted type constructors and data constructors is actually a strange thing. |
2022-11-16 16:07:03 +0100 | <dminuoso> | given that type constructors do not get promoted |
2022-11-16 16:07:16 +0100 | <dminuoso> | (they already are promoted by virtue of implicit TypeInType) |
2022-11-16 16:08:33 +0100 | __monty__ | (~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving) |
2022-11-16 16:08:33 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | we should all start programming Agda |
2022-11-16 16:08:52 +0100 | <fendor[m]> | I am still confused, but maybe slightly less ^^ |
2022-11-16 16:09:07 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | TypeInType is terribly confusing |
2022-11-16 16:09:30 +0100 | <dminuoso> | N :: AcessLevel |
2022-11-16 16:09:33 +0100 | <dminuoso> | 'N :: AcessLevel |
2022-11-16 16:09:35 +0100 | <dminuoso> | This is so disturbing :( |
2022-11-16 16:09:48 +0100 | <dminuoso> | But I guess thats not as much TypeInType as it is DataKinds in the presence of TypeInType |
2022-11-16 16:10:12 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :t Type |
2022-11-16 16:10:12 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:1: error: Data constructor not in scope: Type |
2022-11-16 16:10:12 +0100 | <dminuoso> | One could still conceive DataKinds creating a *separate* promoted type I guess? |
2022-11-16 16:10:16 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :t Data.Kind.Type |
2022-11-16 16:10:16 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:1: error: ; • Illegal term-level use of the type constructor ‘GHC.Types.Type’ ; • In the expression: GHC.Types.Type |
2022-11-16 16:10:34 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: Uh! I have not seen that error before. o.o |
2022-11-16 16:10:37 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k Data.Kind.Type |
2022-11-16 16:10:38 +0100 | <yahb2> | Data.Kind.Type :: * |
2022-11-16 16:10:43 +0100 | <dminuoso> | How does that even exist? |
2022-11-16 16:10:49 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | how about that, all words in one line |
2022-11-16 16:10:49 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Shouldnt GHC emit a "not in scope" error? |
2022-11-16 16:10:57 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :t Int |
2022-11-16 16:10:57 +0100 | <yahb2> | <interactive>:1:1: error: ; • Illegal term-level use of the type constructor ‘Int’ ; imported from ‘Prelude’ (and originally defined in ‘GHC.Types’) ; • In the expression: Int |
2022-11-16 16:11:22 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Is this possibly just an GHCi quirk? |
2022-11-16 16:11:33 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :set -fprint-star-as-type |
2022-11-16 16:11:33 +0100 | <yahb2> | Some flags have not been recognized: -fprint-star-as-type |
2022-11-16 16:12:07 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: Nice, I also like Data.Data.Data |
2022-11-16 16:12:31 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Also nice is: |
2022-11-16 16:12:34 +0100 | <dminuoso> | type Type = TYPE LiftedRep |
2022-11-16 16:12:53 +0100 | <dminuoso> | That monotic increased usage of capital letters. |
2022-11-16 16:13:08 +0100 | <kronicmage> | thanks tomsmeding! |
2022-11-16 16:13:27 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :set -XNoStarIsType |
2022-11-16 16:13:28 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2022-11-16 16:13:30 +0100 | razetime | (~quassel@117.193.2.3) |
2022-11-16 16:13:32 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k Data.Kind.Type |
2022-11-16 16:13:32 +0100 | <yahb2> | Data.Kind.Type :: Type |
2022-11-16 16:13:38 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % import Data.Kind |
2022-11-16 16:13:38 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2022-11-16 16:13:42 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :k Type |
2022-11-16 16:13:42 +0100 | <yahb2> | Type :: Type |
2022-11-16 16:13:46 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | voila, TypeInType |
2022-11-16 16:14:05 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: yeah those are also nice :D |
2022-11-16 16:15:11 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % import Data.Proxy |
2022-11-16 16:15:11 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2022-11-16 16:15:17 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % data A (a :: Type) = A (Proxy a) |
2022-11-16 16:15:17 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2022-11-16 16:15:26 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | dminuoso: not only are types kinds, kinds are also types |
2022-11-16 16:15:35 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | this makes 0 sense |
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2022-11-16 16:16:00 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | % :set -XTypeApplications |
2022-11-16 16:16:00 +0100 | <yahb2> | <no output> |
2022-11-16 16:16:22 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | oh wait this makes perfect sense |
2022-11-16 16:16:26 +0100 | tomsmeding | confused |
2022-11-16 16:16:32 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | rather, _was_ confused |
2022-11-16 16:16:37 +0100 | <dminuoso> | tomsmeding: why do you keep saying kinds? |
2022-11-16 16:16:39 +0100 | <dminuoso> | we dont have them. |
2022-11-16 16:16:57 +0100 | <dminuoso> | The only relict we have of them is in a couple of diagnostics |
2022-11-16 16:16:58 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | because I refuse to come out of the idealised world where kinds are a well-defined thing |
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2022-11-16 16:18:04 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Well. Type :: Type |
2022-11-16 16:18:10 +0100 | tomsmeding | hides |
2022-11-16 16:18:11 +0100 | <dminuoso> | That says everything there is to know about it. |
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2022-11-16 19:48:52 +0100 | euandreh2 | euandreh |
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2022-11-16 19:56:44 +0100 | <EvanR> | is there a startsWith :: Char -> String -> Bool |
2022-11-16 19:57:02 +0100 | <EvanR> | @hoogle Char -> String -> Bool |
2022-11-16 19:57:03 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Basement.String elem :: Char -> String -> Bool |
2022-11-16 19:57:03 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Data.Char.Properties.UnicodeBlocks elemCodeBlock :: Char -> String -> Bool |
2022-11-16 19:57:03 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Algebra.ModuleBasis propDimension :: C a v => a -> v -> Bool |
2022-11-16 19:57:21 +0100 | <EvanR> | @hoogle Eq a => a -> [a] -> Bool |
2022-11-16 19:57:22 +0100 | <lambdabot> | GHC.List elem :: Eq a => a -> [a] -> Bool |
2022-11-16 19:57:22 +0100 | <lambdabot> | GHC.List notElem :: Eq a => a -> [a] -> Bool |
2022-11-16 19:57:22 +0100 | <lambdabot> | GHC.OldList elem :: Eq a => a -> [a] -> Bool |
2022-11-16 19:57:27 +0100 | <geekosaur> | `isPrefixOf`? |
2022-11-16 19:57:34 +0100 | <EvanR> | :t isPrefixOf |
2022-11-16 19:57:35 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Eq a => [a] -> [a] -> Bool |
2022-11-16 19:57:39 +0100 | <EvanR> | fine. |
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2022-11-16 20:08:04 +0100 | AlexNoo_ | AlexNoo |
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2022-11-16 20:23:00 +0100 | <dminuoso> | EvanR: If possible, you can also put this into pattern matching: `f str@('s':_) ...; f str = ...` |
2022-11-16 20:23:11 +0100 | euandreh | (~Thunderbi@179.214.113.107) |
2022-11-16 20:24:17 +0100 | <EvanR> | only works for constant Char... |
2022-11-16 20:24:41 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.193) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
2022-11-16 20:24:55 +0100 | <EvanR> | unlike elixir which lets you reference variables in the pattern... |
2022-11-16 20:25:40 +0100 | lottaquestions_ | (~nick@104.221.24.83) |
2022-11-16 20:25:41 +0100 | Vajb | (~Vajb@2001:999:504:3ad6:52a4:a3b5:32d8:e74d) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
2022-11-16 20:25:42 +0100 | <dminuoso> | With elixir thats probably a macro though. |
2022-11-16 20:25:45 +0100 | lottaquestions_ | (~nick@104.221.24.83) (Client Quit) |
2022-11-16 20:25:50 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Which means we have that in GHC Haskell too. :p |
2022-11-16 20:25:56 +0100 | <geekosaur> | f str@(c:_) | c == foo = ... |
2022-11-16 20:26:06 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Or that, yeah |
2022-11-16 20:26:16 +0100 | lottaquestions_ | (~nick@104.221.24.83) |
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2022-11-16 20:32:09 +0100 | systemfault | (sid267009@id-267009.uxbridge.irccloud.com) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
2022-11-16 20:32:53 +0100 | zebrag | (~chris@user/zebrag) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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2022-11-16 20:34:36 +0100 | irrgit_ | (~irrgit@89.47.234.26) |
2022-11-16 20:34:37 +0100 | <EvanR> | filter (\case (c:_) | c == foo = True | otherwise = False; [] -> False) bars |
2022-11-16 20:34:42 +0100 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@104-55-37-220.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2022-11-16 20:35:16 +0100 | davetapley | (sid666@id-666.uxbridge.irccloud.com) |
2022-11-16 20:35:53 +0100 | <EvanR> | filter (\case (c:_) -> c == foo; [] -> False) bars |
2022-11-16 20:36:01 +0100 | systemfault | (sid267009@id-267009.uxbridge.irccloud.com) |
2022-11-16 20:36:03 +0100 | <EvanR> | not bad |
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2022-11-16 20:40:10 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.193) |
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2022-11-16 21:30:11 +0100 | vglfr | (~vglfr@145.224.100.22) (Write error: Connection reset by peer) |
2022-11-16 21:30:24 +0100 | federico | (~federico@93-34-233-131.ip52.fastwebnet.it) |
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2022-11-16 21:30:51 +0100 | federico | (~federico@93-34-233-131.ip52.fastwebnet.it) (Client Quit) |
2022-11-16 21:30:58 +0100 | bobbingbob | (~bobbingbo@2604:3d09:207f:f650::b469) |
2022-11-16 21:31:11 +0100 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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2022-11-16 21:34:43 +0100 | enoq | (~enoq@2a05:1141:1f5:5600:b9c9:721a:599:bfe7) (Quit: enoq) |
2022-11-16 21:35:31 +0100 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:7d33:673a:80f0:1322) |
2022-11-16 21:36:07 +0100 | mmhat | (~mmh@p200300f1c719d097ee086bfffe095315.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
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2022-11-16 21:49:40 +0100 | mmhat | (~mmh@p200300f1c71a6d71ee086bfffe095315.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
2022-11-16 21:53:09 +0100 | ub | (~Thunderbi@178.165.179.251.wireless.dyn.drei.com) (Quit: ub) |
2022-11-16 21:53:21 +0100 | ub | (~Thunderbi@178.165.179.251.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
2022-11-16 21:54:07 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.193) |
2022-11-16 21:54:49 +0100 | azimut | (~azimut@gateway/tor-sasl/azimut) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2022-11-16 21:59:24 +0100 | irrgit_ | (~irrgit@89.47.234.26) (Quit: Leaving) |
2022-11-16 21:59:59 +0100 | notzmv | (~zmv@user/notzmv) |
2022-11-16 22:01:40 +0100 | lortabac | (~lortabac@2a01:e0a:541:b8f0:7d33:673a:80f0:1322) (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) |
2022-11-16 22:05:05 +0100 | azimut | (~azimut@gateway/tor-sasl/azimut) |
2022-11-16 22:09:28 +0100 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@2600:1700:38c5:d800:f467:abff:e567:955f) |
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2022-11-16 22:14:07 +0100 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) |
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2022-11-16 22:17:28 +0100 | Vajb | (~Vajb@hag-jnsbng11-58c3a5-27.dhcp.inet.fi) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
2022-11-16 22:17:37 +0100 | Vajb | (~Vajb@2001:999:504:3ad6:52a4:a3b5:32d8:e74d) |
2022-11-16 22:18:40 +0100 | nschoe | (~q@2a01:e0a:8e:a190:68cf:faba:8c01:da9f) |
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2022-11-16 22:18:45 +0100 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) |
2022-11-16 22:19:15 +0100 | kenaryn | (~aurele@89-88-44-27.abo.bbox.fr) |
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2022-11-16 22:30:14 +0100 | king_gs | (~Thunderbi@2806:103e:29:bfeb:c988:bbd5:2586:4924) (Quit: king_gs) |
2022-11-16 22:31:37 +0100 | chromoblob | (~user@37.113.164.122) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
2022-11-16 22:32:35 +0100 | ub | (~Thunderbi@178.165.179.251.wireless.dyn.drei.com) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
2022-11-16 22:33:38 +0100 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) |
2022-11-16 22:35:42 +0100 | Dutchgriffon | (~Laurens@70.36.53.134) |
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2022-11-16 22:38:31 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@86-86-29-250.fixed.kpn.net) |
2022-11-16 22:38:45 +0100 | lambdabot | (~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
2022-11-16 22:40:31 +0100 | takuan | (~takuan@178-116-218-225.access.telenet.be) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2022-11-16 22:40:47 +0100 | lambdabot | (~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu) |
2022-11-16 22:40:47 +0100 | lambdabot | (~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu) (Changing host) |
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2022-11-16 22:43:42 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@86-86-29-250.fixed.kpn.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
2022-11-16 22:44:03 +0100 | coot | (~coot@213.134.171.3) (Quit: coot) |
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2022-11-16 22:51:44 +0100 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@104-55-37-220.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
2022-11-16 22:51:56 +0100 | biberu | (~biberu@user/biberu) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
2022-11-16 22:52:49 +0100 | biberu | (~biberu@user/biberu) |
2022-11-16 22:57:52 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.193) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
2022-11-16 23:05:57 +0100 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@104-55-37-220.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2022-11-16 23:07:35 +0100 | fockerize | (~finn@roc37-h01-176-170-197-243.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
2022-11-16 23:07:53 +0100 | CiaoSen | (~Jura@p200300c95701f1002a3a4dfffe84dbd5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
2022-11-16 23:09:11 +0100 | phma_ | (phma@2001:5b0:211f:71d8:b1fb:b9c3:f43b:db91) |
2022-11-16 23:09:20 +0100 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@2600:1700:38c5:d800:f467:abff:e567:955f) |
2022-11-16 23:10:36 +0100 | phma | (~phma@host-67-44-208-21.hnremote.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
2022-11-16 23:11:35 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.193) |
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2022-11-16 23:13:19 +0100 | AlexNoo_ | (~AlexNoo@178.34.161.167) |
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2022-11-16 23:14:41 +0100 | califax | (~califax@user/califx) |
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2022-11-16 23:19:34 +0100 | gurkenglas | (~gurkengla@p548ac72e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
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2022-11-16 23:25:59 +0100 | ec | (~ec@gateway/tor-sasl/ec) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
2022-11-16 23:26:55 +0100 | gmg | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) (Quit: Leaving) |
2022-11-16 23:27:35 +0100 | ec | (~ec@gateway/tor-sasl/ec) |
2022-11-16 23:35:49 +0100 | Erutuon | (~Erutuon@user/erutuon) |
2022-11-16 23:37:27 +0100 | hgolden | (~hgolden@cpe-172-251-233-141.socal.res.rr.com) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2022-11-16 23:39:05 +0100 | freeside | (~mengwong@103.252.202.193) |
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2022-11-16 23:46:42 +0100 | AlexNoo_ | AlexNoo |
2022-11-16 23:54:49 +0100 | DDR | (~DDR@2604:3d08:4c7f:8250:843b:f3d0:47c:129e) |