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2022-03-17 00:03:34 +0100 <dons> moin moni
2022-03-17 00:03:42 +0100TonyStone(~TonyStone@cpe-74-76-51-197.nycap.res.rr.com)
2022-03-17 00:05:19 +0100 <maerwald[m]> moinsen
2022-03-17 00:05:22 +0100HotblackDesiato(~HotblackD@gateway/tor-sasl/hotblackdesiato)
2022-03-17 00:09:00 +0100ski'd agree with tomsmeding that it'd be nicer to treat `1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5' as a "flat" structure (perhaps a quotient over different ways to associate the tree, if you prefer)
2022-03-17 00:09:40 +0100 <ski> (although i'm not sure what you mean by "algebraic simplifier")
2022-03-17 00:10:24 +0100Tuplanolla(~Tuplanoll@91-159-69-98.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
2022-03-17 00:10:53 +0100 <ski> (there is such a thing as unification in a theory, e.g. unification modulo associativity)
2022-03-17 00:11:01 +0100 <ski> (for `[Choice [a,b],Choice [c,d]]', i guess one could maybe require the elements to be a subtype (refinement type ?) not including `Choice' on top-level, if one wanted to)
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2022-03-17 00:33:47 +0100 <romesrf> o/
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2022-03-17 05:25:30 +0100 <hololeap> why do internal libraries in .cabal require build-type: Simple
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2022-03-17 05:51:55 +0100 <zzz> how can i get ghci errors in vim's quickfix window?
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2022-03-17 11:27:53 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> type level programming question: why does it fail?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/2e57cc6a6723ea893220755f9d252baec5c7…)
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2022-03-17 11:33:22 +0100 <merijn> ManofLetters[m]: 'x' is completely free, so the constraint is uncheckable
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2022-03-17 11:34:35 +0100coot(~coot@213.134.190.95)
2022-03-17 11:35:06 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> that's fine, this is just a simplified example; the question is why, if I assume that for every `x`, it can't be deduced for just `0`
2022-03-17 11:36:21 +0100 <merijn> ManofLetters[m]: You can't "assume that it is for every X"
2022-03-17 11:36:52 +0100 <merijn> ManofLetters[m]: The constraint says "F x ~ Int", in the absent of a choice for 'x', GHC treats that as unsolvable (which it is)
2022-03-17 11:37:02 +0100 <merijn> s/absent/absence
2022-03-17 11:37:37 +0100 <merijn> ManofLetters[m]: Whether "F x" is equivalent to Int, depends on 'x'
2022-03-17 11:37:37 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> oh, I see
2022-03-17 11:38:11 +0100 <merijn> You're trying to use it more as an assertion that "F x" is always Int, yeah?
2022-03-17 11:38:22 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> yes
2022-03-17 11:38:24 +0100 <merijn> I'm not sure you can actually write that in GHC Haskell
2022-03-17 11:40:22 +0100TonyStone(~TonyStone@2603-7080-8607-c36a-a161-049d-edaf-1b31.res6.spectrum.com)
2022-03-17 11:42:56 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> the following works and may be OK for me: `f :: (F x ~ Int, x ~ 0) => F x -> Int`(in the real code `F x ~ Int` is a part of a much larger constraint that will be present there regardless)
2022-03-17 11:43:26 +0100__monty__(~toonn@user/toonn) (Quit: leaving)
2022-03-17 11:44:08 +0100 <[exa]> ManofLetters[m]: what's the greater purpose of that btw?
2022-03-17 11:44:51 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> taking over the world
2022-03-17 11:45:18 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> in smaller scale: I have a lot of functions that share the constraints that `F x ~ Int` is a part of
2022-03-17 11:45:32 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> and the functions work on 0, 1, etc., various values of the x
2022-03-17 11:46:09 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> and I'd like to express in the functions' signatures both what Nat they work on and that they share the big constraint
2022-03-17 11:46:15 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> e.g., another function may be
2022-03-17 11:46:40 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> `g :: (F x ~ Int, x ~ 5) => Double -> F x -> Int'
2022-03-17 11:47:07 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> remember that `F x ~ Int` is something bigger and `Int` is much bigger and more variable, too
2022-03-17 11:47:10 +0100 <merijn> ManofLetters[m]: I mean, that's just writing "Double -> F 5 -> Int" with extra steps??
2022-03-17 11:47:28 +0100 <merijn> ah, no, I guess not
2022-03-17 11:47:36 +0100 <merijn> Since that doesn't force F5 ~ Int
2022-03-17 11:47:38 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> `g :: (F x ~ Int, x ~ 5) => Double -> F 5 -> Int' is going to fail, right?
2022-03-17 11:48:00 +0100 <merijn> "g :: (F 5 ~ Int) => Double -> F 5 -> Int"
2022-03-17 11:48:19 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> oh, yes, but I can't change the `F x ~ Int` part
2022-03-17 11:48:27 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> it's part of a much larger constraint
2022-03-17 11:48:35 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> hmm, unless I can apply it to 5
2022-03-17 11:48:37 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> let me check...
2022-03-17 11:48:49 +0100kuribas(~user@ip-188-118-57-242.reverse.destiny.be)
2022-03-17 11:49:47 +0100 <[exa]> oh so this example is completely arbitrary, okay
2022-03-17 11:50:40 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> yes, that may be optimal -- parameterize the big `F x ~ Int` constraint with x and do `g :: C 5 => Double -> F 5 -> Int', where `type C n = F n ~ Int`
2022-03-17 11:50:57 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> s/,/`/
2022-03-17 11:51:40 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> or g :: C x, x ~ 5 => Double -> F x -> Int' if x appears in many places and `5` is really a big type-level list
2022-03-17 11:51:56 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> * or `g :: C x, x ~ 5 => Double -> F x -> Int` if x appears in many places and `5` is really a big type-level list
2022-03-17 11:52:11 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> thank you all
2022-03-17 11:53:08 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> the real example is this, if that's interesting:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/15f0ee6e1cfa7305aff7dd8e462b7582c297…)
2022-03-17 11:53:55 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> though that doesn't yet incorporate the big constraint, parameterized by `n`; so it's still artificial
2022-03-17 11:54:33 +0100lavaman(~lavaman@c-174-63-118-52.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
2022-03-17 11:54:33 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> the new version will have `fromS0 :: IsScalarS '[] r => DualNumber (TensorS sh r) -> DualNumber r`
2022-03-17 11:54:58 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> and... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/abbedf490561f8a2f02186e64a4ada6b3261…)
2022-03-17 11:55:12 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> you shouldn't have asked :)
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2022-03-17 11:56:52 +0100 <[exa]> do you have any way to constrain the `sh` in `Dual (TensorS sh r) ~ OS.Array sh (Dual r)` ?
2022-03-17 11:57:43 +0100Midjak(~Midjak@82.66.147.146)
2022-03-17 11:58:45 +0100 <[exa]> (perhaps show it an unique `sh` that could be derivable from `r` and useful in this situation?)
2022-03-17 11:59:31 +0100__monty__(~toonn@user/toonn)
2022-03-17 11:59:37 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> in this function `sh` is `'[]`, in other's is various other lists
2022-03-17 11:59:48 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> BTW, the last example should have been `fromS0 :: IsScalarS '[] r => DualNumber (TensorS '[] r) -> DualNumber r`
2022-03-17 12:00:20 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> or `fromS0 :: (IsScalarS '[] r, sh ~'[]) => DualNumber (TensorS sh r) -> DualNumber r`, equivalently, I guess
2022-03-17 12:00:31 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> s/'[]/sh/
2022-03-17 12:00:37 +0100 <[exa]> ManofLetters[m]: in type signature of `fromS0`, how is it able to deduce that `sh ~ '[]` ?
2022-03-17 12:01:02 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> which one, because I've amended it many times
2022-03-17 12:01:18 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> the original one?
2022-03-17 12:01:29 +0100 <[exa]> the "the real example is this, if that's interesting" line
2022-03-17 12:01:34 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> my naive idea was that "if it holds for sh, it also holds for '[]"
2022-03-17 12:01:53 +0100 <[exa]> ah yes, but you're saying there "if it holds for all sh"
2022-03-17 12:02:02 +0100 <[exa]> and there's no way to check that
2022-03-17 12:02:21 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> sh being implicitly universally quantified, I thought, but merijn explained to me why it doesn't work
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2022-03-17 12:02:52 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> I naively thought a constraint is an assumption
2022-03-17 12:02:58 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> so you don't check that, you assume it
2022-03-17 12:03:09 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> [exa]: have you seen the simplified example?
2022-03-17 12:03:31 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> `f :: F x ~ Int => F 0 -> Int`
2022-03-17 12:04:06 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> so F applied to anyting is Int, hence F applied to 0 is Int --- that's what I thought, but merijn explained that's not how it works, see that older discussion
2022-03-17 12:04:07 +0100 <[exa]> yes, that says the same. "If you manage to prove that (for all x) F x ~ Int, then you can use this function as `:: F 0 -> Int`
2022-03-17 12:04:45 +0100 <[exa]> yes :]
2022-03-17 12:05:07 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> hah, what I thought was (forall x. F x ~ Int) => F 0
2022-03-17 12:05:13 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> * F 0 ~ Int
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2022-03-17 12:06:17 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> so, `f :: (forall x. F x ~ Int) => F 0 -> Int` is equivalent to `f :: Int -> Int`
2022-03-17 12:06:26 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> or something
2022-03-17 12:06:28 +0100 <[exa]> I was asking if you could derive some simple example of `sh` for the typechecker there so the problematic `forall x` could be solved/removed.
2022-03-17 12:07:04 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> I don't follow
2022-03-17 12:07:15 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> in the larger example the only sh I'm interested in is '[]
2022-03-17 12:07:21 +0100krappix(~krappix@nat-eduroam-76-gw-01-lne.lille.inria.fr) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2022-03-17 12:07:34 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> in that particular function, in others it will be some other type-level list
2022-03-17 12:07:43 +0100brandonh(brandonh@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/brandonh) (Quit: brandonh)
2022-03-17 12:08:17 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> but I want to share the same big constraint that states the same thing for all sh, be it '[] or any other type level list
2022-03-17 12:08:36 +0100 <[exa]> ManofLetters[m]: the "is equivalent to" there holds mathematically but not in type systems (unless you apply some magic that I don't see there)
2022-03-17 12:08:45 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> I think will work if I parameterize the constraint by sh and apply to '[], but I haven't type-checked yet
2022-03-17 12:09:24 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> [exa]: yes, that's what merijn explained to me and I agreed, see above
2022-03-17 12:09:30 +0100 <[exa]> ah okay :]
2022-03-17 12:09:56 +0100 <[exa]> my notice with deriving `sh` was one possible workaround then :]
2022-03-17 12:10:32 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> right; thanks for the tip, I may come back for more if the last idea doesn't work :)
2022-03-17 12:10:52 +0100 <[exa]> ok, good luck, this looks pretty dense
2022-03-17 12:11:16 +0100eggplantade(~Eggplanta@108-201-191-115.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net)
2022-03-17 12:12:13 +0100 <[exa]> what's the "math" semantics of IsScalarS you have there btw? (when compared to IsScalar)
2022-03-17 12:12:18 +0100 <[exa]> (just curious)
2022-03-17 12:12:36 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> yay, it worked, in this form: `type IsScalarS (sh :: [Nat]) r = (IsScalar r, Dual (TensorS sh r) ~ OS.Array sh (ScalarOf r))`
2022-03-17 12:12:45 +0100razetime(~quassel@117.207.19.145)
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2022-03-17 12:13:20 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> `IsScalarS` is just an extension of `IsScalar` with an extra equality
2022-03-17 12:13:48 +0100 <[exa]> more like, what does the "S" stand for
2022-03-17 12:14:31 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> the equality is that for any tensor shape, primal component of a dual number of a tensor of that shape is the same type as a tensor of that shape of scalars
2022-03-17 12:14:42 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> S is for shaped tensors:
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2022-03-17 12:15:13 +0100 <[exa]> ah cool
2022-03-17 12:15:29 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/orthotope-0.1.2.0/docs/Data-Array-Shaped.html#t:Shape
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2022-03-17 12:16:08 +0100 <[exa]> ah cool
2022-03-17 12:16:21 +0100 <[exa]> I guess you could fix it a bit more semantically also by just specifying `Shape sh`
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2022-03-17 12:22:27 +0100 <ManofLetters[m]> why not; where exactly would I put that?
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2022-03-17 13:25:08 +0100 <karim> Greetings all, I was searching for #haskell-gsoc channel on freenode, but couldn't find it, anyone knows how to find it?
2022-03-17 13:25:32 +0100 <[exa]> freenode still exists?
2022-03-17 13:25:58 +0100 <geekosaur> summer.haskell.org still says it'son freenode
2022-03-17 13:26:22 +0100 <[exa]> ah okay, so maybe it's now here on libera :]
2022-03-17 13:26:27 +0100 <geekosaur> the last person who asked, I pointed to the gsoc committeealong with a suggestion they tell the committee to update their contact page
2022-03-17 13:26:41 +0100 <karim> I searched for it here also, but it's not here.
2022-03-17 13:26:46 +0100 <geekosaur> in any case I think it's as yet too early for the channel to exist
2022-03-17 13:27:03 +0100 <[exa]> karim: anyway I'd say it's pretty safe to start asking here
2022-03-17 13:27:34 +0100agrosant(~agrosant@79.103.7.27.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr)
2022-03-17 13:28:13 +0100 <geekosaur> actually I wonder if committee@haskell.org is even a thing any more, or if it's been folded into the HF or something
2022-03-17 13:28:23 +0100 <geekosaur> we don't seem to be very organized at present
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2022-03-17 13:37:10 +0100 <maerwald> geekosaur: haskell.org is not folded into HF
2022-03-17 13:37:24 +0100 <maerwald> https://www.haskell.org/haskell-org-committee/
2022-03-17 13:38:58 +0100 <geekosaur> not the committee itself, but I could imagine summer of code stuff changing hands
2022-03-17 13:39:35 +0100 <geekosaur> it's a bit weird for it to be run by the haskell.org committee inthe first place, but that was all we had before
2022-03-17 13:41:15 +0100 <maerwald> I think haskell.org is exactly the right body for this. Its only purpose is helping the community and managing certain resources.
2022-03-17 13:41:39 +0100 <maerwald> HF is more specific, with its own technical goals
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2022-03-17 14:24:27 +0100 <Inst> @maerwald
2022-03-17 14:24:27 +0100 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
2022-03-17 14:24:28 +0100 <Inst> yo
2022-03-17 14:24:33 +0100 <Inst> I mentioned in Matrix
2022-03-17 14:25:34 +0100 <Inst> that the death of Haskell Platform is a disaster
2022-03-17 14:25:43 +0100 <Inst> because we've lost library standards
2022-03-17 14:26:02 +0100 <Inst> and the loss of WinGHC means that windows integration is out the wazoo
2022-03-17 14:26:03 +0100 <maerwald> Inst: https://github.com/haskellfoundation/stability/issues/7
2022-03-17 14:26:12 +0100 <maerwald> wrt library standards
2022-03-17 14:26:14 +0100 <Inst> I'm wondering if you're willing to deal with library standards in the future
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2022-03-17 15:02:04 +0100 <Inst> @maerwald
2022-03-17 15:02:04 +0100 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
2022-03-17 15:02:25 +0100 <Inst> I think Hecate is pissed at me, in part because my friend (who is a champion influencer) is now a former friend, and we ended up splitting quite acrimoniously
2022-03-17 15:02:32 +0100 <Inst> but say, if people put in a program to donate to GHCup
2022-03-17 15:02:36 +0100 <Inst> would you accept donations?
2022-03-17 15:02:43 +0100 <Inst> I'd gladly toss 20 USD your way
2022-03-17 15:02:55 +0100 <maerwald> eh
2022-03-17 15:03:27 +0100 <maerwald> There's an open-collective page
2022-03-17 15:03:37 +0100 <maerwald> the link is at the bottom of the homepage
2022-03-17 15:03:43 +0100 <maerwald> you can donate there
2022-03-17 15:03:57 +0100 <maerwald> not sure what's that about influencers though
2022-03-17 15:08:57 +0100 <romesrf> o/
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2022-03-17 15:10:51 +0100 <Inst> It's some personal drama, nothing more, nothing less
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2022-03-17 16:50:44 +0100 <Guest1639> I'm trying to set up a stack project with multiple executables, and I'm having trouble figuring out exactly how to do it. one of the executables is a preprocessor with source in Foo.hs, the second is generated by Bar.hs which needs the preprocessor to run on it to generate valid haskell code. the problem is that stack build will compile Foo.hs, but
2022-03-17 16:50:45 +0100 <Guest1639> then try to compile Bar.hs without building the executable for Foo first. is there a way to get stack to build an internal executable before compiling a library? do i need to split this into multiple packages?
2022-03-17 16:51:41 +0100 <merijn> Guest1639: I don't think Cabal (and thus stack) has a way to support that without splitting it into multiple packages, no
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2022-03-17 16:54:00 +0100 <Guest1639> merijn guess i'll just have to split it :(. thank you!
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2022-03-17 16:54:45 +0100 <janus> maerwald: ooh you did the cloning per subdirectory fix, thank you!!!
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2022-03-17 17:11:56 +0100 <maerwald> at least they merged that
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2022-03-17 23:42:42 +0100 <niemand> Hi, has sb a nix flake for a haskell project with ghc 9.0+ and haskell-language-server?
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2022-03-17 23:47:02 +0100 <dons> morning all.
2022-03-17 23:48:52 +0100 <sclv> morning dons!
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2022-03-17 23:52:06 +0100 <romesrf> good evening!
2022-03-17 23:52:19 +0100 <niemand> good  night!
2022-03-17 23:52:26 +0100 <jackdk> g'day!
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2022-03-17 23:52:57 +0100 <romesrf> this is lively, does anyone want to share what they're working on?
2022-03-17 23:53:20 +0100 <sclv> trying to work out the most general setting in which the isomorphism between traversable functors and finitary containers holds :-P
2022-03-17 23:53:33 +0100 <sclv> I think its any locally cartesian closed category, but its a bit fiddly
2022-03-17 23:53:57 +0100 <niemand> >Hi, has sb a nix flake for a haskell project with ghc 9.0+ and haskell-language-server?
2022-03-17 23:54:16 +0100 <niemand> An example project with linear types on github could suffice
2022-03-17 23:54:49 +0100 <niemand> I want to show off linear types at my school :D
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2022-03-17 23:55:45 +0100 <hololeap> I think linear types was introduced in 9.2
2022-03-17 23:55:50 +0100cheater(~Username@user/cheater)
2022-03-17 23:55:52 +0100 <geekosaur> 9.0
2022-03-17 23:55:57 +0100 <hololeap> oh, my bad
2022-03-17 23:56:18 +0100ec(~ec@gateway/tor-sasl/ec) (Quit: ec)
2022-03-17 23:56:28 +0100 <geekosaur> it was the reason for the jump from 8.x
2022-03-17 23:59:59 +0100 <romesrf> sclv: it sounds interesting! i'm still getting started in category theory but I really enjoy it. I'm going through Bartosz's book (chapter 9 now)