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| 2022-03-04 00:21:01 +0100 | agumonke` | (~user@2a01:e0a:8f9:d3e0:b117:81a8:33f6:93e7) |
| 2022-03-04 00:21:56 +0100 | noctux | (~noctux@user/noctux) |
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| 2022-03-04 00:26:20 +0100 | <Axman6> | reactormonk[m]: IIRC doing that isn't really encouraged as it can make the optic unlawful; if they happen to point to the same location you get problems with the laws (though probably pretty predictable results). if you're just getting with the optic, then (<>) works I think |
| 2022-03-04 00:26:34 +0100 | DNH | (~DNH@2a02:8109:b740:2c4:d4c3:770e:71a9:8cce) |
| 2022-03-04 00:26:41 +0100 | <Axman6> | % toListOf (_1 <> _2) (1,2) |
| 2022-03-04 00:26:41 +0100 | <yahb> | Axman6: [1,2] |
| 2022-03-04 00:28:08 +0100 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@2600:1700:bef1:5e10:d4cb:ae21:cf60:e6bc) |
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| 2022-03-04 02:56:37 +0100 | romesrf | (~romes@44.190.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
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| 2022-03-04 02:57:26 +0100 | motherfsck | (~motherfsc@user/motherfsck) |
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| 2022-03-04 03:32:49 +0100 | SoF | (~skius@user/skius) (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) |
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| 2022-03-04 03:40:08 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@c-001-001-005.client.esciencecenter.eduvpn.nl) |
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| 2022-03-04 04:05:43 +0100 | wroathe | (~wroathe@user/wroathe) |
| 2022-03-04 04:12:24 +0100 | deer | (~delicacie@2601:6c4:4080:3f80:64ae:8d65:326:7bc) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2022-03-04 04:13:47 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@c-001-001-005.client.esciencecenter.eduvpn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
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| 2022-03-04 04:29:41 +0100 | marc__ | (~marc@171.42.231.100) |
| 2022-03-04 04:30:10 +0100 | <marc__> | hi |
| 2022-03-04 04:30:22 +0100 | <jackdk> | sup |
| 2022-03-04 04:32:57 +0100 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5cc3:7e00::45ee) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
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| 2022-03-04 04:58:10 +0100 | [_] | (~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470) |
| 2022-03-04 04:58:22 +0100 | [itchyjunk] | Guest705 |
| 2022-03-04 04:58:22 +0100 | Guest705 | (~itchyjunk@user/itchyjunk/x-7353470) (Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))) |
| 2022-03-04 04:58:22 +0100 | [_] | [itchyjunk] |
| 2022-03-04 05:03:53 +0100 | Vajb | (~Vajb@hag-jnsbng11-58c3a8-176.dhcp.inet.fi) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2022-03-04 05:10:38 +0100 | marc__ | (~marc@171.42.231.100) (Quit: marc__) |
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| 2022-03-04 05:23:47 +0100 | agumonke` | (~user@2a01:e0a:8f9:d3e0:b117:81a8:33f6:93e7) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2022-03-04 07:20:06 +0100 | monochrom | (trebla@216.138.220.146) (Quit: NO CARRIER) |
| 2022-03-04 07:20:07 +0100 | <dons> | hey folks. anyone have a good way to detect in the shell if the system compiler is clang? clang=$(cc --version | sed -n 's/^.*\(clang\).*$/\1/p') |
| 2022-03-04 07:20:18 +0100 | <dons> | (gotta be a more standard way, right/) |
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| 2022-03-04 07:34:13 +0100 | <Axman6> | compiling a small C file which uses __clang__ might also work |
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| 2022-03-04 07:49:03 +0100 | cynomys | (~cynomys@user/cynomys) |
| 2022-03-04 07:49:38 +0100 | Inst | (~delicacie@2601:6c4:4080:3f80:55c9:448e:c624:9d3c) |
| 2022-03-04 07:49:44 +0100 | <Inst> | hope I'm not unwelcome here |
| 2022-03-04 07:49:50 +0100 | <Inst> | had some girl troubles, it's hopefully resolved |
| 2022-03-04 07:50:08 +0100 | k8yun_ | (~k8yun@user/k8yun) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2022-03-04 07:53:38 +0100 | <Axman6> | Lambdas will be here for you forever, they are eternal |
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| 2022-03-04 08:03:51 +0100 | <EvanR> | not unwelcome is different from welcome in constructive logic |
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| 2022-03-04 08:04:45 +0100 | <EvanR> | --Inst |
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| 2022-03-04 09:12:19 +0100 | phma_ | phma |
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| 2022-03-04 09:20:27 +0100 | <dminuoso> | reactormonk[m]: Even stronger, if you have a coproduct type you can use `unsafeSingular (_L <> _R)` to reconstruct a proper lens. Just be sure that you cover all prisms for that. |
| 2022-03-04 09:20:57 +0100 | <dminuoso> | We make heavy use of this in our largest project. :) |
| 2022-03-04 09:21:55 +0100 | <dminuoso> | commonInterface = unsafeSingular $ (_Service1Q % commonInterface) `failingT` (_ServiceL3 % commonInterface) |
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| 2022-03-04 09:47:48 +0100 | kuribas | (~user@ptr-25vy0i73yabknznie7k.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) |
| 2022-03-04 09:49:00 +0100 | <kuribas> | omg reasoning with lispers about haskell is impossible. "haskell is so complicated, I looked at the implementation of "fold", and it was incomprehensible, with Endo monoid etc...". |
| 2022-03-04 09:49:22 +0100 | <kuribas> | Yeah, you looked at a few blog post, why would you think you can understand all the intrecacies of the language then? |
| 2022-03-04 09:50:03 +0100 | <kuribas> | "oh, but the implementation of reduce in clojure is easy. I would never be able to understand haskell." |
| 2022-03-04 09:50:53 +0100 | <kuribas> | I get it, most languages are so similar to others (C# vs java), that usually a few blogposts is enough to get a good idea. |
| 2022-03-04 09:51:09 +0100 | <kuribas> | IMO that makes haskell a good language, not a bad one. |
| 2022-03-04 09:53:47 +0100 | bahamas | (~lucian@84.232.140.52) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 09:54:37 +0100 | <kuribas> | I would not be interested in learning a language which is mostly syntactic fluff over another language. |
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| 2022-03-04 09:55:41 +0100 | yauhsien | (~yauhsien@61-231-30-36.dynamic-ip.hinet.net) |
| 2022-03-04 09:57:09 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | to be frank I don't understand that Endo definition of fold either |
| 2022-03-04 09:57:18 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | I don't think it's meant to be "clear code" |
| 2022-03-04 09:57:31 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | it's meant to be hugely generic and do the job |
| 2022-03-04 09:57:54 +0100 | <kuribas> | yeah, and to play well with rewrite rules. |
| 2022-03-04 09:58:13 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | which is almost the definition of "black magic" in haskell world, from my point of view |
| 2022-03-04 09:58:24 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | hence, I think that response is not even wrong :p |
| 2022-03-04 09:58:36 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | though it's very unfair to discount haskell based on that, clojure is bound to have its weirdnesses as well |
| 2022-03-04 09:58:52 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | (I don't know clojure) |
| 2022-03-04 09:59:08 +0100 | <kuribas> | yeah, that's my point. You look into a impementation of a language you don't know well, how can you expect it to be clear and understandable. |
| 2022-03-04 09:59:15 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yes |
| 2022-03-04 09:59:47 +0100 | <kuribas> | I agree about the black magic, but the truth is clojure doesn't even have such optimizations. |
| 2022-03-04 10:00:07 +0100 | pfurla-matrix | (~pedrofurl@2001:470:69fc:105::1:51d7) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
| 2022-03-04 10:00:18 +0100 | <kuribas> | If you write high level code, it will give suboptimal performance. |
| 2022-03-04 10:00:26 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@c-001-001-005.client.esciencecenter.eduvpn.nl) |
| 2022-03-04 10:00:31 +0100 | pfurla-matrix | (~pedrofurl@2001:470:69fc:105::1:51d7) |
| 2022-03-04 10:00:32 +0100 | pfurla-matrix | (~pedrofurl@2001:470:69fc:105::1:51d7) () |
| 2022-03-04 10:00:43 +0100 | <kuribas> | The definition of "fold" in a handbook would be easy and clear. |
| 2022-03-04 10:00:53 +0100 | Null_A | (~null_a@2601:645:8700:2290:3c1e:11a0:debc:333e) |
| 2022-03-04 10:01:28 +0100 | <kuribas> | But probably not be as efficient. |
| 2022-03-04 10:01:54 +0100 | <kuribas> | and right, ghc is the implementation, not the language. |
| 2022-03-04 10:02:46 +0100 | <int-e> | The Endo thing is just about expressing f a (f b (f c z)) as (f a . f b . f c) z |
| 2022-03-04 10:02:52 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | sad, 'fold' not in Haskell2010 |
| 2022-03-04 10:03:15 +0100 | <int-e> | where (.) is the mappend of `Endo`, modulo the newtype |
| 2022-03-04 10:03:33 +0100 | <int-e> | @src foldr |
| 2022-03-04 10:03:34 +0100 | <lambdabot> | foldr f z [] = z |
| 2022-03-04 10:03:34 +0100 | <lambdabot> | foldr f z (x:xs) = f x (foldr f z xs) |
| 2022-03-04 10:03:40 +0100 | <int-e> | If you teach, use this. |
| 2022-03-04 10:04:09 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | yeah |
| 2022-03-04 10:04:43 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | it's semantically exactly equivalent, only difference is performance |
| 2022-03-04 10:04:45 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | that's always nice |
| 2022-03-04 10:05:17 +0100 | Null_A | (~null_a@2601:645:8700:2290:3c1e:11a0:debc:333e) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 10:05:26 +0100 | zeenk | (~zeenk@2a02:2f04:a30d:1300:51a3:bcfc:6cda:9fc5) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2022-03-04 10:07:58 +0100 | <kuribas> | I think there could be ways to improve over rewrite rules, but they are active research. |
| 2022-03-04 10:08:16 +0100 | burnsidesLlama | (~burnsides@rrcs-76-81-82-250.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 2022-03-04 10:08:47 +0100 | <int-e> | (I guess that leaves the `#.` which is an optimization of `.` specifically for newtype constructors... which are equal to `coerce`, and `coerce . f = coerce f` when only the result type is changed... yeah that's intricate.) |
| 2022-03-04 10:10:04 +0100 | <kuribas> | And frankly, clojure is simple because it is also not very performant. |
| 2022-03-04 10:10:28 +0100 | <kuribas> | the performant bits are implemented in Java. |
| 2022-03-04 10:10:53 +0100 | mikoto-chan | (~mikoto-ch@213.177.151.239) |
| 2022-03-04 10:11:00 +0100 | chenqisu1 | (~chenqisu1@183.217.201.47) |
| 2022-03-04 10:11:29 +0100 | <int-e> | . o O ( -- you are not meant to understand this ) |
| 2022-03-04 10:13:18 +0100 | burnsidesLlama | (~burnsides@rrcs-76-81-82-250.west.biz.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 10:14:30 +0100 | Pickchea | (~private@user/pickchea) |
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| 2022-03-04 10:18:22 +0100 | <kuribas> | int-e: where does it say that? |
| 2022-03-04 10:18:44 +0100 | <int-e> | kuribas: In my mind. |
| 2022-03-04 10:18:52 +0100 | <kuribas> | right :) |
| 2022-03-04 10:19:07 +0100 | deadmarshal_ | (~deadmarsh@95.38.115.28) |
| 2022-03-04 10:21:51 +0100 | vpan | (~0@212.117.1.172) |
| 2022-03-04 10:22:55 +0100 | MajorBiscuit | (~MajorBisc@wlan-145-94-218-48.wlan.tudelft.nl) |
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| 2022-03-04 10:23:52 +0100 | <int-e> | kuribas: This has a real life source though: https://web.archive.org/web/20081021011744/http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/odd.html |
| 2022-03-04 10:24:03 +0100 | dextaa_ | (~dextaa@user/dextaa) |
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| 2022-03-04 10:24:05 +0100 | <int-e> | Well. Close. s/meant/expected/ |
| 2022-03-04 10:24:23 +0100 | <int-e> | Which makes it a tiny bit less condescending. |
| 2022-03-04 10:26:17 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | "The real problem is that we didn't understand what was going on either." |
| 2022-03-04 10:26:46 +0100 | <int-e> | We've had a story like this with inlinePerformIO |
| 2022-03-04 10:28:28 +0100 | jgeerds | (~jgeerds@55d4548e.access.ecotel.net) |
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| 2022-03-04 10:28:45 +0100 | <int-e> | (aka accursedUnutterablePerformIO) |
| 2022-03-04 10:29:58 +0100 | <tomsmeding> | the haddocks certainly make for good reading |
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| 2022-03-04 10:52:41 +0100 | <kuribas> | bytestrings are also interesting. |
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| 2022-03-04 12:56:45 +0100 | <teddyc> | I had this thought of a function that toggles between serializing and deserialing a data type based on the input, and was thinking about how you can be quite expressive with types in haskell. Is something like this possible? https://0bin.net/paste/RZX85Kjh#78ms0-pk5DUlaLBdzwMjf9wQCDA6mU8EOE2C2/ywlpF |
| 2022-03-04 12:57:08 +0100 | <teddyc> | basically that the output type can be inferred by the input type |
| 2022-03-04 12:57:22 +0100 | <teddyc> | or is it not possible at compile time |
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| 2022-03-04 12:57:46 +0100 | ccntrq1 | ccntrq |
| 2022-03-04 12:58:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I think you'd need FlexibleInstances, but a function is a perfectly fine typeclass instance (see Text.Printf's PrintfType) |
| 2022-03-04 12:59:25 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it seems a not so great idea to me because a mistake in type inference elsewhere could lead what you expect to be a serializer to become a deserializer instead or vice versa, but it should be perferctly possible to write such a thing |
| 2022-03-04 13:00:43 +0100 | <teddyc> | nice, ill have a look. Yeah, its maybe not the greatest idea. I just had a flashback to the little i learned about prolog. IIRC you can give either the input or the ouput of the function and get the other. |
| 2022-03-04 13:01:07 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yeh, this is a bit more sensible an idea in logic programming |
| 2022-03-04 13:01:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's more constrained |
| 2022-03-04 13:01:59 +0100 | <geekosaur> | considser also: |
| 2022-03-04 13:02:13 +0100 | DNH | (~DNH@2a02:8109:b740:2c4:d4c3:770e:71a9:8cce) |
| 2022-03-04 13:02:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | > (maxBound :: Int, maxBound :: Char) |
| 2022-03-04 13:02:17 +0100 | <lambdabot> | (9223372036854775807,'\1114111') |
| 2022-03-04 13:02:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | its type and its value is conmpletely determined by how you use it |
| 2022-03-04 13:02:47 +0100 | <geekosaur> | just a typeclass member function |
| 2022-03-04 13:02:56 +0100 | <teddyc> | ah, thats interesting |
| 2022-03-04 13:03:11 +0100 | <geekosaur> | typeclasses are quite flexible |
| 2022-03-04 13:04:19 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I've seen C++ programmers' minds get blown by the idea of "return type overloading" |
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| 2022-03-04 13:17:39 +0100 | <[exa]> | geekosaur: one of my students was implementing a hindley-milner C with overloading and stuff, so he had the `new` function in there for allocation |
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| 2022-03-04 13:18:48 +0100 | <[exa]> | literal question from the committee, in disbelief: "but `new`... what type??" |
| 2022-03-04 13:19:57 +0100 | <[exa]> | (it was something roughly like `new :: () -> Ptr a` ) |
| 2022-03-04 13:20:19 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yep |
| 2022-03-04 13:20:52 +0100 | <geekosaur> | teddyc, if you want to see an example of just how much you can abuse the type system, there's a package `acme-php` you can look at |
| 2022-03-04 13:21:40 +0100 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@2600:1700:bef1:5e10:d4cb:ae21:cf60:e6bc) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 13:23:05 +0100 | <geekosaur> | also I'd point out that in your serialization/deserialization example, there'sa serious question of how to deal with the input and output types being the same: the only possible implementations are `id` orthrowing an exception |
| 2022-03-04 13:23:26 +0100 | <[exa]> | +1^ |
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| 2022-03-04 13:24:44 +0100 | <[exa]> | teddyc: did you see the "reversible parsing" in prolog with DCGs ? |
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| 2022-03-04 13:25:31 +0100 | <dminuoso> | teddyc: To have one type depend on another, you can do this with either a) functional dependencies or b) type families. |
| 2022-03-04 13:25:43 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Whether they are great choices is a separate discussion. |
| 2022-03-04 13:26:00 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@host86-160-236-152.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) |
| 2022-03-04 13:26:20 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Or potentially MultiParamTypeclasses without fundeps, depending on what constraints you want |
| 2022-03-04 13:27:20 +0100 | yauhsien | (~yauhsien@61-231-30-36.dynamic-ip.hinet.net) |
| 2022-03-04 13:31:02 +0100 | <teddyc> | [exa]: no, but that looks very similiar to what I was thinking. |
| 2022-03-04 13:31:52 +0100 | <teddyc> | dminuoso: thanks, many good pointers |
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| 2022-03-04 13:32:34 +0100 | <geekosaur> | [exa], H-M C sounds interesting. is that online anywhere? |
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| 2022-03-04 13:32:59 +0100 | <[exa]> | teddyc: notice there in prolog you always know which of the 2 variables is "more serialized" than the other one, that's for a good reason IMO |
| 2022-03-04 13:33:16 +0100 | <[exa]> | teddyc: OTOH the interesting part is that the actual algorithm description is kinda direction-polymorphic |
| 2022-03-04 13:33:53 +0100 | <[exa]> | there should be libraries for that in haskell too (<- optimistic guess) |
| 2022-03-04 13:34:39 +0100 | burnsidesLlama | (~burnsides@rrcs-76-81-82-250.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 2022-03-04 13:34:42 +0100 | <[exa]> | geekosaur: it's a bachelor-student-touched-the-PL-design-first-time-quality and probably no good docs, I'll check if I find it |
| 2022-03-04 13:36:24 +0100 | mcgroin | (~mcgroin@roc37-h01-176-170-197-243.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 2022-03-04 13:36:25 +0100 | <lortabac> | there are several invertible-parser libraries in Haskell |
| 2022-03-04 13:37:10 +0100 | jonathanx | (~jonathan@h-178-174-176-109.A357.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 2022-03-04 13:37:21 +0100 | <[exa]> | my guess was substantiated \o/ |
| 2022-03-04 13:37:30 +0100 | <lortabac> | they can't produce arbitrary terms as Prolog does, but they allow specifying serialization and deserialization in a single definition |
| 2022-03-04 13:38:02 +0100 | agumonke` | (~user@2a01:e0a:8f9:d3e0:b117:81a8:33f6:93e7) |
| 2022-03-04 13:38:33 +0100 | <lortabac> | @hackage sexp-grammar |
| 2022-03-04 13:38:33 +0100 | <lambdabot> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/sexp-grammar |
| 2022-03-04 13:38:52 +0100 | <lortabac> | @hackage unjson |
| 2022-03-04 13:38:52 +0100 | <lambdabot> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/unjson |
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| 2022-03-04 13:39:25 +0100 | <lortabac> | @hackage bidirectional |
| 2022-03-04 13:39:25 +0100 | <lambdabot> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/bidirectional |
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| 2022-03-04 15:34:32 +0100 | <terzievk> | I'm trying to set up cabal for dynamic linking as in this https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/haskell#Configuring_Cabal_for_dynamic_linking. Here is my cabal config http://ix.io/3RkC I want `ghc Main.hs` to work but only `ghc -dynamic Main.hs` does... What am I missing? |
| 2022-03-04 15:35:24 +0100 | <maerwald> | terzievk: why? |
| 2022-03-04 15:35:26 +0100 | <merijn> | terzievk: Why would you expect ghc without -dynamic to work? |
| 2022-03-04 15:35:35 +0100 | MasseR4 | (~MasseR@51.15.143.128) |
| 2022-03-04 15:35:43 +0100 | <geekosaur> | configuring caba;willnot configure ghc used directly |
| 2022-03-04 15:35:53 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you will have to explicitly use-dynamic on arch |
| 2022-03-04 15:36:05 +0100 | <geekosaur> | *configuring cabal will not |
| 2022-03-04 15:36:17 +0100 | <terzievk> | marijan: `ghc-options: -dynamic adds the -dynamic flag to every invocation of GHC (e.g. if a package has a non-trivial Setup.hs).` |
| 2022-03-04 15:36:41 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but only when invoked via cabal |
| 2022-03-04 15:36:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | not if you run ghc directly |
| 2022-03-04 15:37:03 +0100 | <merijn> | terzievk: That's cabal configuration, though. Not GHC configuration |
| 2022-03-04 15:37:13 +0100 | <terzievk> | i see |
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| 2022-03-04 15:37:20 +0100 | dextaa_ | (~dextaa@user/dextaa) |
| 2022-03-04 15:37:23 +0100 | <merijn> | You're telling *cabal* you want it to always use -dynamic when invoking ghc |
| 2022-03-04 15:37:28 +0100 | <merijn> | GHC is entirely unaware |
| 2022-03-04 15:38:00 +0100 | <merijn> | What you're asking is how to change the default of GHC to be dynamic instead of static. Which (afaik) you can't unless you patch GHC and compile it that way |
| 2022-03-04 15:38:01 +0100 | MasseR4 | (~MasseR@51.15.143.128) (Client Quit) |
| 2022-03-04 15:38:19 +0100 | <merijn> | Which arch does not do (despite insisting on breaking the default configuration, to everyone's dismay) |
| 2022-03-04 15:38:25 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that's not even a supported configuration |
| 2022-03-04 15:38:25 +0100 | MasseR4 | (~MasseR@51.15.143.128) |
| 2022-03-04 15:38:36 +0100 | agumonke` | (~user@2a01:e0a:8f9:d3e0:b117:81a8:33f6:93e7) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 15:38:44 +0100 | <geekosaur> | the closest you get is -dynamic-too by default, which is deprecated |
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| 2022-03-04 15:39:01 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but even so would have improved the UX for arch haskell users enormously |
| 2022-03-04 15:39:16 +0100 | agumonke` | (~user@88.163.231.79) |
| 2022-03-04 15:39:49 +0100 | <terzievk> | should I just go the ghcup static way instead of the arch packages' dynamic? |
| 2022-03-04 15:39:52 +0100 | <yushyin> | also keep in mind the following: 'Note: As of October 2020 Cabal ignores ghc-options from ~/.cabal/config while building packages with build-type: Custom. Therefore, it is necessary to specify --ghc-options=-dynamic flag on the command line' |
| 2022-03-04 15:40:01 +0100 | <maerwald> | terzievk: yes |
| 2022-03-04 15:40:08 +0100 | <yushyin> | terzievk: ghcup works fine, yes, do that. |
| 2022-03-04 15:40:17 +0100 | <maerwald> | arch wiki is a pile of crap wrt Haskell |
| 2022-03-04 15:40:46 +0100 | <merijn> | s/wiki// |
| 2022-03-04 15:40:52 +0100 | <terzievk> | thanks :) |
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| 2022-03-04 16:02:48 +0100 | shapr | (~user@pool-173-73-44-186.washdc.fios.verizon.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2022-03-04 16:04:48 +0100 | kritzefitz_ | kritzefitz |
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| 2022-03-04 16:08:41 +0100 | waleee | (~waleee@2001:9b0:213:7200:cc36:a556:b1e8:b340) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 16:09:31 +0100 | <byorgey> | It seems like I can't upload to Hackage since yesterday --- when I try to 'cabal upload --publish foo.tar.gz', it says "Uploading foo.tar.gz..." and then just hangs indefinitely. |
| 2022-03-04 16:09:48 +0100 | <byorgey> | Wondering if anyone has any insight. |
| 2022-03-04 16:10:05 +0100 | albet70 | (~xxx@2400:8902::f03c:92ff:fe60:98d8) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 16:11:05 +0100 | <geekosaur> | might be a question for #hackage |
| 2022-03-04 16:11:27 +0100 | zebrag | (~chris@user/zebrag) |
| 2022-03-04 16:11:36 +0100 | <byorgey> | ok, yeah, I'll try there |
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| 2022-03-04 19:08:37 +0100 | <Franciman> | so i tried some examples from «why functional programming matters» |
| 2022-03-04 19:08:48 +0100 | <Franciman> | and i implemented them in sml |
| 2022-03-04 19:09:01 +0100 | <Franciman> | https://bpa.st/7QNA not so bad! |
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| 2022-03-04 19:09:35 +0100 | <Franciman> | if i could delay and force computations in patterns it would be much closer to haskell version |
| 2022-03-04 19:09:38 +0100 | <Franciman> | ah |
| 2022-03-04 19:09:40 +0100 | <Franciman> | bonus track |
| 2022-03-04 19:09:44 +0100 | <Franciman> | it's 10x faster than the haskell version ;) |
| 2022-03-04 19:10:01 +0100 | altern | (~altern@altern.corbina.com.ua) |
| 2022-03-04 19:10:03 +0100 | <Franciman> | because i get to choose how laziness strategy must work |
| 2022-03-04 19:10:20 +0100 | <Franciman> | if i change it to a similar strategy than haskell, then they have the same speed |
| 2022-03-04 19:10:33 +0100 | <Franciman> | haskell's strategy is: |
| 2022-03-04 19:10:49 +0100 | <Franciman> | datatype 'a Stream = Stream of unit -> ('a * 'a Stream) |
| 2022-03-04 19:10:58 +0100 | <Franciman> | so everything is under a lambda |
| 2022-03-04 19:11:20 +0100 | <Franciman> | while around the web it's suggested you can, more easily, improving strictness a bit to use |
| 2022-03-04 19:11:32 +0100 | <Franciman> | datatype 'a Stream = Stream of 'a * (unit -> 'a Stream) |
| 2022-03-04 19:11:39 +0100 | <Franciman> | where only the tail of the stream is delayed |
| 2022-03-04 19:11:48 +0100 | <Franciman> | so the number of lambdas gets reduced |
| 2022-03-04 19:11:54 +0100 | <Franciman> | and we get a 10x speedup. I thinkl |
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| 2022-03-04 19:19:50 +0100 | deadmarshal_ | (~deadmarsh@95.38.115.28) |
| 2022-03-04 19:20:09 +0100 | <crazazy> | Hi! I was trying to learn how to use the recursion-schemes packages, but I was wondering if there is a certain way I can make a generalized recursion scheme where I generate 0 or 1 layers at every step |
| 2022-03-04 19:20:59 +0100 | <crazazy> | because it seems that all geven unfolding schemes require me to generate at least 1 layer at every step of the creation of my recursive data structure |
| 2022-03-04 19:23:25 +0100 | <dsal> | Fun way to troll your friends: `newtype T = T X deriving C via T` |
| 2022-03-04 19:23:49 +0100 | <dsal> | (me from several days ago trolled me from last night with that) |
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| 2022-03-04 19:25:51 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Presumably methods on C will just loop indefinitely with that? |
| 2022-03-04 19:26:00 +0100 | vicfred | (~vicfred@user/vicfred) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2022-03-04 19:26:13 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % newtype T = T X deriving C via T |
| 2022-03-04 19:26:14 +0100 | <yahb> | dminuoso: ; <interactive>:18:15: error: Not in scope: type constructor or class `X'; <interactive>:18:28: error: Not in scope: type constructor or class `C' |
| 2022-03-04 19:26:27 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % newtype T = T Int deriving Monoid via T |
| 2022-03-04 19:26:27 +0100 | <yahb> | dminuoso: ; <interactive>:19:30: error:; * No instance for (Semigroup T) arising from the 'deriving' clause of a data type declaration; Possible fix: use a standalone 'deriving instance' declaration, so you can specify the instance context yourself; * When deriving the instance for (Monoid T) |
| 2022-03-04 19:26:32 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % newtype T = T Int deriving Semigroup via T |
| 2022-03-04 19:26:32 +0100 | <yahb> | dminuoso: |
| 2022-03-04 19:26:39 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % T 10 <> T 20 |
| 2022-03-04 19:26:39 +0100 | <yahb> | dminuoso: ; <interactive>:21:1: error:; * No instance for (Show T) arising from a use of `print'; * In a stmt of an interactive GHCi command: print it |
| 2022-03-04 19:26:42 +0100 | <dminuoso> | gah |
| 2022-03-04 19:28:05 +0100 | <dminuoso> | % T 10 <> T 20 |
| 2022-03-04 19:28:10 +0100 | <yahb> | dminuoso: T [Timed out] |
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| 2022-03-04 19:41:55 +0100 | <lechner_> | Hi, does anyone recognize this Cabal error, please? It occurs when testing the consistency of all Haskell packages in Debian with Cabal 3.6.2 instead of 3.0.0. Thanks! http://paste.debian.net/1233019/ |
| 2022-03-04 19:42:17 +0100 | albet70 | (~xxx@2400:8902::f03c:92ff:fe60:98d8) |
| 2022-03-04 19:43:05 +0100 | <sclv> | lechner_: what cabal file is that failing on? |
| 2022-03-04 19:43:26 +0100 | yauhsien | (~yauhsien@61-231-30-36.dynamic-ip.hinet.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 19:44:33 +0100 | <sclv> | or it may be a package name in this case? |
| 2022-03-04 19:45:07 +0100 | <lechner_> | sclv: it's a giant sandbox with a fake 00-index.tar. some may be historical. is it caused by a sole 'p' on one of them? |
| 2022-03-04 19:45:24 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 19:45:32 +0100 | <sclv> | well there's a particular "cabal install" command that fails |
| 2022-03-04 19:45:44 +0100 | <sclv> | i imagine its caused by the arguments to that specific command |
| 2022-03-04 19:46:16 +0100 | <sclv> | from the message it looks like its the constraint parser failing |
| 2022-03-04 19:46:40 +0100 | <lechner_> | sclv: http://paste.debian.net/1233024/ |
| 2022-03-04 19:46:50 +0100 | Erutuon | (~Erutuon@user/erutuon) |
| 2022-03-04 19:47:57 +0100 | <sclv> | christ |
| 2022-03-04 19:48:19 +0100 | <sclv> | ok i think i have a guess -- if you run `--constraint pkg flag` you now need to say `--constraint pkg +flag` (or minus flag) |
| 2022-03-04 19:48:32 +0100 | <Franciman> | the only examples of why laziness matters for gluing code is when using lists as interface between functions |
| 2022-03-04 19:48:37 +0100 | ishutin | (~ishutin@85-238-77-70.pool.digikabel.hu) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 19:48:37 +0100 | Null_A | (~null_a@2601:645:8700:2290:3c1e:11a0:debc:333e) |
| 2022-03-04 19:48:41 +0100 | <Franciman> | the only examples i find* |
| 2022-03-04 19:48:44 +0100 | <Franciman> | do you have other examples? |
| 2022-03-04 19:48:58 +0100 | <Franciman> | i mean posts talking about it or practical use cases |
| 2022-03-04 19:50:41 +0100 | ishutin | (~ishutin@87-97-12-202.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 2022-03-04 19:51:06 +0100 | <Franciman> | generally speaking, lazy code is always working _on_ a lazy structure which may be lists or trees |
| 2022-03-04 19:52:43 +0100 | cwraith | c_wraith |
| 2022-03-04 19:52:52 +0100 | <Franciman> | so in general i can have codata representing spaces i want to navigate on demand |
| 2022-03-04 19:53:06 +0100 | Erutuon | (~Erutuon@user/erutuon) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 19:53:08 +0100 | <sclv> | lechner_: did my suggestion help? |
| 2022-03-04 19:53:14 +0100 | <Franciman> | and get back the same ergonomics and composability of full laziness |
| 2022-03-04 19:53:23 +0100 | <Franciman> | but i think i am missing something, some use cases |
| 2022-03-04 19:53:24 +0100 | Null_A | (~null_a@2601:645:8700:2290:3c1e:11a0:debc:333e) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 19:53:51 +0100 | <monochrom> | Sometimes I do DFS on lazy trees. |
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| 2022-03-04 19:54:15 +0100 | <maerwald> | what's the most lightweight library for html xpath scraping? |
| 2022-03-04 19:55:02 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@c-001-001-005.client.esciencecenter.eduvpn.nl) |
| 2022-03-04 19:55:14 +0100 | <sclv> | maerwald: its not xpath per se but i always liked tagsoup |
| 2022-03-04 19:55:49 +0100 | <lechner_> | sclv: i think you nailed it, but still confirming |
| 2022-03-04 19:55:57 +0100 | EvanR | (~EvanR@user/evanr) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 19:56:03 +0100 | Erutuon | (~Erutuon@user/erutuon) |
| 2022-03-04 19:56:05 +0100 | <Franciman> | monochrom: hm i found that example in why fp matters too! nice one |
| 2022-03-04 19:56:12 +0100 | vicfred | (~vicfred@user/vicfred) |
| 2022-03-04 19:56:14 +0100 | <maerwald> | sclv: I don't want to parse though, but get fuzzy matching results |
| 2022-03-04 19:56:16 +0100 | EvanR | (~EvanR@user/evanr) |
| 2022-03-04 19:56:16 +0100 | <Franciman> | thanks |
| 2022-03-04 19:56:33 +0100 | <sclv> | maerwald: what do you mean parse vs fuzzy |
| 2022-03-04 19:56:42 +0100 | <maerwald> | well, exactly how xpath works |
| 2022-03-04 19:56:54 +0100 | <sclv> | tagsoup isn't a proper html parser. it just decomposes the doc into a stream of tags |
| 2022-03-04 19:56:56 +0100 | <maerwald> | I have very little knowledge about the exact HTML |
| 2022-03-04 19:57:08 +0100 | <sclv> | you can filter on them in pretty idiomatic ways |
| 2022-03-04 19:57:15 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) |
| 2022-03-04 19:57:21 +0100 | <sclv> | and as a bonus it can deal with hideously malformed html |
| 2022-03-04 19:58:14 +0100 | little_mac | (~little_ma@2601:410:4300:3ce0:39c3:2e2a:8815:29cc) |
| 2022-03-04 19:58:37 +0100 | sclv | is sad that the improvements to cabal parsers brought with them some truly terrible error messages |
| 2022-03-04 19:59:49 +0100 | emf | (~emf@8.46.76.74) |
| 2022-03-04 20:00:25 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@c-001-001-005.client.esciencecenter.eduvpn.nl) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 20:01:21 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2022-03-04 20:01:58 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 20:02:19 +0100 | <lechner_> | sclv: You nailed it on the head. Thank you so much! |
| 2022-03-04 20:03:02 +0100 | <maerwald> | I guess I'll try hxt-xpath then, seems to support HTML |
| 2022-03-04 20:03:29 +0100 | emf_ | (~emf@2620:10d:c090:400::5:ca48) |
| 2022-03-04 20:04:07 +0100 | <sclv> | i reiterate that tagsoup is probably what you want, and if you think it isn't, you likely aren't quite clear on how it works |
| 2022-03-04 20:04:12 +0100 | emf | (~emf@8.46.76.74) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 20:04:39 +0100 | <dsal> | dminuoso: It looped, but without consuming any CPU, which was a little surprising for me. Just suddenly this new test I added caused everything to freeze mysteriously. |
| 2022-03-04 20:04:50 +0100 | <dminuoso> | dsal: huh that's quite interesting. |
| 2022-03-04 20:05:02 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Why doesnt that spin your CPU? |
| 2022-03-04 20:05:24 +0100 | ProfSimm | (~ProfSimm@87.227.196.109) |
| 2022-03-04 20:06:34 +0100 | <maerwald> | sclv: I want xpath =) |
| 2022-03-04 20:07:29 +0100 | <sclv> | well then i yield :-P |
| 2022-03-04 20:07:44 +0100 | <Franciman> | it's really incredible how a small change in the lazy evaluation strategy can get you a great speedup of 10x |
| 2022-03-04 20:09:06 +0100 | <monochrom> | Do you get a similar speedup in idiomatic Haskell with just this strictness annotation? "data S a = S !a (S a)" |
| 2022-03-04 20:09:41 +0100 | <Franciman> | yes monochrom |
| 2022-03-04 20:09:52 +0100 | <Franciman> | i tried it |
| 2022-03-04 20:10:00 +0100 | <monochrom> | It would be pretty close to "S of 'a * (unit -> S 'a)" in SML. |
| 2022-03-04 20:10:04 +0100 | <monochrom> | Ah OK. |
| 2022-03-04 20:10:55 +0100 | <c_wraith> | In general I don't like putting strictness annotations in data because it breaks things that would otherwise work correctly. |
| 2022-03-04 20:11:34 +0100 | <monochrom> | Oh it needs to be a conscious decision why you want the ! there. |
| 2022-03-04 20:11:42 +0100 | <c_wraith> | But that might be a case where it does make sense. infinite streams have a lot fewer use cases than lists. |
| 2022-03-04 20:12:50 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) |
| 2022-03-04 20:12:58 +0100 | <monochrom> | I shall make a language called Pull Your Hair Out. |
| 2022-03-04 20:13:24 +0100 | <monochrom> | It does not default to laziness or eagerness. You must annotate everywhere. >:) |
| 2022-03-04 20:14:11 +0100 | albet70 | (~xxx@2400:8902::f03c:92ff:fe60:98d8) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 20:14:39 +0100 | <Rembane> | :D |
| 2022-03-04 20:15:08 +0100 | <Rembane> | I think a reasonable behaviour if annotation is forgotten is to have stochastic eagerness |
| 2022-03-04 20:15:10 +0100 | <c_wraith> | I can't remember... does Haskell support useless ~ annotations in data? |
| 2022-03-04 20:15:32 +0100 | <monochrom> | No, no ~ in data declarations. |
| 2022-03-04 20:15:39 +0100 | <monochrom> | Only for patterns. |
| 2022-03-04 20:15:47 +0100 | yauhsien | (~yauhsien@61-231-30-36.dynamic-ip.hinet.net) |
| 2022-03-04 20:15:53 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@2a00:23c8:970c:4801:917f:cb7a:6a6c:cd7) |
| 2022-03-04 20:15:59 +0100 | <c_wraith> | and no ! in patterns, only ~ |
| 2022-03-04 20:16:17 +0100 | <monochrom> | And then BangPatterns allow ! in patterns. |
| 2022-03-04 20:16:47 +0100 | <monochrom> | Now BangPatterns is so famous, people look at "data S a = S !a" and say "bang pattern" too. |
| 2022-03-04 20:17:00 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 20:18:44 +0100 | <Franciman> | ok monochrom i thought it worked but it was the old version. I am unable to define a struct fold |
| 2022-03-04 20:18:47 +0100 | <Franciman> | strict * |
| 2022-03-04 20:19:06 +0100 | <Franciman> | it gets extremely slow |
| 2022-03-04 20:19:13 +0100 | <Franciman> | probably list is internally optimised |
| 2022-03-04 20:19:21 +0100 | <Franciman> | it's hard to perform better than ghc, when using haskell |
| 2022-03-04 20:19:47 +0100 | <Franciman> | probably unboxing plays a huge role |
| 2022-03-04 20:20:17 +0100 | albet70 | (~xxx@2400:8902::f03c:92ff:fe60:98d8) |
| 2022-03-04 20:20:18 +0100 | <monochrom> | You're probably just missing a few rewrite rules. |
| 2022-03-04 20:20:36 +0100 | yauhsien | (~yauhsien@61-231-30-36.dynamic-ip.hinet.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 20:20:40 +0100 | <Franciman> | hmm i see |
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| 2022-03-04 20:37:40 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@host86-160-236-152.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) |
| 2022-03-04 20:38:56 +0100 | <lechner_> | Hi, which Cabal version first required the explicit plus signs (+) for flags that were previously bare, please? |
| 2022-03-04 20:39:24 +0100 | emf_ | (~emf@2620:10d:c090:400::5:ca48) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
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| 2022-03-04 20:41:26 +0100 | <lechner_> | sclv: ^ |
| 2022-03-04 20:41:44 +0100 | emf | (~emf@2620:10d:c090:400::5:f7f1) |
| 2022-03-04 20:41:46 +0100 | <sclv> | 3.4 i believe |
| 2022-03-04 20:41:48 +0100 | <sclv> | https://github.com/haskell/cabal/blob/master/release-notes/cabal-install-3.4.0.0.md |
| 2022-03-04 20:43:14 +0100 | emf_ | (~emf@2620:10d:c090:400::5:f7f1) |
| 2022-03-04 20:43:35 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2022-03-04 20:44:25 +0100 | <lechner_> | sclv: thanks i was looking at some other changelog |
| 2022-03-04 20:44:27 +0100 | sergiishm | (~altern@altern.corbina.com.ua) |
| 2022-03-04 20:44:41 +0100 | altern | (~altern@altern.corbina.com.ua) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 20:45:04 +0100 | <lechner_> | sclv: i would like to recognize your help in my commit message. do you prefer your nick or your real name, please? |
| 2022-03-04 20:45:48 +0100 | emf | (~emf@2620:10d:c090:400::5:f7f1) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 20:46:12 +0100 | <sclv> | you can use my github at: @gbaz |
| 2022-03-04 20:46:37 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@2a00:23c8:970c:4801:917f:cb7a:6a6c:cd7) |
| 2022-03-04 20:48:59 +0100 | vicfred | (~vicfred@user/vicfred) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2022-03-04 20:50:24 +0100 | <maerwald> | afais optparse-applicative doesn't support a recursive completer? |
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| 2022-03-04 20:52:52 +0100 | Lord_of_Life_ | (~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915) |
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| 2022-03-04 20:55:38 +0100 | Lord_of_Life_ | Lord_of_Life |
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| 2022-03-04 21:01:58 +0100 | Inst | (~delicacie@c-98-208-218-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 2022-03-04 21:03:53 +0100 | <WhateverRabbit> | Franciman: "newtype S a = S (# a, Solo (S a) #)", lol |
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| 2022-03-04 21:05:04 +0100 | <WhateverRabbit> | (but it doesnt work) |
| 2022-03-04 21:05:51 +0100 | <Franciman> | eh with unboxed data it gets hard |
| 2022-03-04 21:05:55 +0100 | <Franciman> | i don't have enough experience |
| 2022-03-04 21:06:00 +0100 | <CATS> | *shrug* |
| 2022-03-04 21:06:51 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@host86-160-236-152.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 21:07:18 +0100 | albet70 | (~xxx@2400:8902::f03c:92ff:fe60:98d8) |
| 2022-03-04 21:07:22 +0100 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@2600:1700:bef1:5e10:d4cb:ae21:cf60:e6bc) |
| 2022-03-04 21:07:56 +0100 | <WhateverRabbit> | Yes, you get some pain in lifted/unlifted data when use unboxed types. |
| 2022-03-04 21:08:02 +0100 | gehmehgeh | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) |
| 2022-03-04 21:08:44 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl) |
| 2022-03-04 21:08:56 +0100 | <WhateverRabbit> | I mean, • Expecting a lifted type, but ‘(# a, Solo (X a) #)’ is unlifted |
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| 2022-03-04 21:09:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | unlifted newtypes are coming soon iirc |
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| 2022-03-04 21:12:19 +0100 | <lechner_> | sclv: Thanks so much! https://salsa.debian.org/lechner/package-plan/-/commit/d4e472588014ec636c41a526dbd26d1019de9586 |
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| 2022-03-04 21:19:49 +0100 | <sclv> | glad it works |
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| 2022-03-04 21:38:10 +0100 | xcmw | (~textual@dyn-72-33-0-245.uwnet.wisc.edu) |
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| 2022-03-04 21:38:40 +0100 | <xcmw> | What is the best way to do incremental computation in Haskell? |
| 2022-03-04 21:39:03 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@2a00:23c8:970c:4801:917f:cb7a:6a6c:cd7) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 21:39:04 +0100 | <xcmw> | Preferably in a functional and performant way |
| 2022-03-04 21:39:35 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@host86-160-236-152.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) |
| 2022-03-04 21:40:26 +0100 | <maerwald> | sclv: tagsoup uses a lot of `error` |
| 2022-03-04 21:41:39 +0100 | <janus> | lechner_: what are you working on with debian, broadly speaking? |
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| 2022-03-04 21:42:47 +0100 | jpneverwas | neverwas |
| 2022-03-04 21:44:19 +0100 | albet70 | (~xxx@2400:8902::f03c:92ff:fe60:98d8) |
| 2022-03-04 21:45:27 +0100 | emf | (~emf@8.46.76.74) |
| 2022-03-04 21:45:36 +0100 | <shapr> | xcmw: you could use a lazy data structure like a list if it's one dimensional |
| 2022-03-04 21:46:50 +0100 | alp | (~alp@user/alp) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 21:47:06 +0100 | <shapr> | xcmw: do you have a particular computation in mind? |
| 2022-03-04 21:47:08 +0100 | <xcmw> | I looking for something like https://github.com/salsa-rs/salsa |
| 2022-03-04 21:47:21 +0100 | <xcmw> | But functional |
| 2022-03-04 21:47:37 +0100 | unit73e | (~emanuel@2001:818:e8dd:7c00:32b5:c2ff:fe6b:5291) |
| 2022-03-04 21:47:40 +0100 | Joaquin | (~Joaquin@14.red-83-51-143.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2022-03-04 21:48:43 +0100 | emf_ | (~emf@163.114.132.7) |
| 2022-03-04 21:49:03 +0100 | <shapr> | xcmw: at some level, Haskell just is on-demand incremental computation because it's lazy |
| 2022-03-04 21:49:37 +0100 | emf | (~emf@8.46.76.74) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 21:49:58 +0100 | <xcmw> | shapr: By incremental I mean only recomputing what is needed when changes occur |
| 2022-03-04 21:50:17 +0100 | <shapr> | that sounds a bit more like differential dataflow |
| 2022-03-04 21:51:01 +0100 | <xcmw> | How would I go about that? |
| 2022-03-04 21:51:38 +0100 | <xcmw> | I'm am actually using Idris but it is close enough to Haskell that the same strategy would apply |
| 2022-03-04 21:51:49 +0100 | <ski> | @where adaptive |
| 2022-03-04 21:51:49 +0100 | <lambdabot> | "Adaptive Functional Programming" by Umut Acar,Blelloch,Harper in 2002 (POPL) at <http://www.umut-acar.org/publications/popl2002.pdf> and in 2006 (TOPLAS) at <http://www.umut-acar.org/publications/ |
| 2022-03-04 21:51:49 +0100 | <lambdabot> | toplas2006.pdf> |
| 2022-03-04 21:51:52 +0100 | <ski> | @where incremental |
| 2022-03-04 21:51:52 +0100 | <lambdabot> | "Monads for Incremental Computing" (Functional Pearl) by Magnus Carlsson in 2002 (ICFP) at <http://www.carlssonia.org/ogi/papers/icfp-2002.pdf>,<http://www.carlssonia.org/ogi/Adaptive/>,in Hackage |
| 2022-03-04 21:51:52 +0100 | <lambdabot> | at <http://hackage.haskell.org/package/Adaptive> |
| 2022-03-04 21:53:11 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@2a00:23c8:970c:4801:917f:cb7a:6a6c:cd7) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 21:53:29 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@2a00:23c8:970c:4801:917f:cb7a:6a6c:cd7) |
| 2022-03-04 21:55:24 +0100 | <xcmw> | Adaptive appears abandoned |
| 2022-03-04 21:56:15 +0100 | perrierjouet | (~perrier-j@modemcable012.251-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) (Quit: WeeChat 3.4) |
| 2022-03-04 21:56:40 +0100 | <xcmw> | Does anyone actually use it? If not, why? |
| 2022-03-04 21:57:11 +0100 | <xcmw> | What does HLS use to be perferment? |
| 2022-03-04 21:57:17 +0100 | emf_ | (~emf@163.114.132.7) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 21:57:20 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Memory |
| 2022-03-04 21:57:36 +0100 | <xcmw> | I am trying to figure out ways to make Idris's LSP faster |
| 2022-03-04 21:57:40 +0100 | <dminuoso> | It's so performant in fact, it regularly OOMs on my 16GiB. |
| 2022-03-04 21:57:42 +0100 | ishutin | (~ishutin@87-97-12-202.pool.digikabel.hu) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 21:58:02 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Why me as a Haskell developer even bothers with as little RAM is still a mystery |
| 2022-03-04 21:58:31 +0100 | <xcmw> | I care more about speed than memory usage. |
| 2022-03-04 21:58:59 +0100 | <WhateverRabbit> | try to dont use so many TH and types, lol |
| 2022-03-04 21:59:24 +0100 | ishutin | (~ishutin@178-164-188-3.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 2022-03-04 21:59:30 +0100 | <WhateverRabbit> | i mean, hls works fine on GHC codebase |
| 2022-03-04 21:59:30 +0100 | emf | (~emf@8.46.76.74) |
| 2022-03-04 21:59:32 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Not sure about TH, but in one of our projects I really go overboard with generics. |
| 2022-03-04 21:59:38 +0100 | jackalope | (~jackalope@50-24-138-131.bcstcmta02.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 2022-03-04 21:59:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | xcmw, I'm not sure much can be done about Idris's LSP: there will be a lot of type inference involved, and a dependently typed language will necessarily be slower about type inference |
| 2022-03-04 22:00:02 +0100 | <dminuoso> | Got like close to a hundred large types, all with Generic and a large bunch of Generic-based instances |
| 2022-03-04 22:00:03 +0100 | <WhateverRabbit> | (i also have 16 gb ram) |
| 2022-03-04 22:01:18 +0100 | <xcmw> | geekosaur I'm certain it can be made better |
| 2022-03-04 22:02:08 +0100 | <xcmw> | Right now the Idris LSP doesn't even keep the previous stuff in memory |
| 2022-03-04 22:02:38 +0100 | <geekosaur> | mm, yes, caching would probably help |
| 2022-03-04 22:02:58 +0100 | <geekosaur> | hls pre-caches a decent amount of stuff, I believe |
| 2022-03-04 22:03:29 +0100 | <xcmw> | rust analyzer uses https://github.com/salsa-rs/salsa to be faster |
| 2022-03-04 22:03:29 +0100 | <WhateverRabbit> | I suppose, Idris LS is so slow because it written in Idris |
| 2022-03-04 22:03:56 +0100 | <xcmw> | Idris 2 compiles to Chez so it is faster than Idris 1 |
| 2022-03-04 22:04:13 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) |
| 2022-03-04 22:04:22 +0100 | <WhateverRabbit> | But much more slower then ghc does |
| 2022-03-04 22:04:36 +0100 | jonathanx__ | (~jonathan@94.234.54.150) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 22:04:49 +0100 | ystael | (~ystael@user/ystael) (Quit: Lost terminal) |
| 2022-03-04 22:05:21 +0100 | deadmarshal_ | (~deadmarsh@95.38.115.28) |
| 2022-03-04 22:05:23 +0100 | ystael | (~ystael@user/ystael) |
| 2022-03-04 22:06:13 +0100 | <xcmw> | So will Adaptive provide the performance benefit that salsa does? |
| 2022-03-04 22:07:16 +0100 | _ht_ | (~quassel@231-169-21-31.ftth.glasoperator.nl) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2022-03-04 22:11:38 +0100 | burnsidesLlama | (~burnsides@rrcs-76-81-82-250.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 2022-03-04 22:11:46 +0100 | deadmarshal_ | (~deadmarsh@95.38.115.28) |
| 2022-03-04 22:12:51 +0100 | perrierjouet | (~perrier-j@modemcable012.251-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
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| 2022-03-04 22:13:34 +0100 | <xcmw> | I've imagined incremental functions as a category, but I'm not sure if the approach is correct |
| 2022-03-04 22:13:43 +0100 | <xcmw> | Monads are nicer to work with |
| 2022-03-04 22:15:04 +0100 | ystael | (~ystael@user/ystael) |
| 2022-03-04 22:15:06 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) |
| 2022-03-04 22:15:08 +0100 | <ski> | nicer than ? |
| 2022-03-04 22:15:22 +0100 | <xcmw> | categories |
| 2022-03-04 22:15:33 +0100 | <ski> | monads presuppose categories |
| 2022-03-04 22:16:04 +0100 | <xcmw> | I mean building a value is nicer than building a function |
| 2022-03-04 22:16:16 +0100 | cosimone | (~user@2001:b07:ae5:db26:c24a:d20:4d91:1e20) (Quit: ERC (IRC client for Emacs 27.1)) |
| 2022-03-04 22:16:42 +0100 | <ski> | what does that have to do with monads, or with categories ? |
| 2022-03-04 22:17:16 +0100 | vorpuni | (~pvorp@2001:861:3881:c690:a812:43ad:c256:1ac2) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2022-03-04 22:18:23 +0100 | <xcmw> | Monads are generalized values. Categories are generalized functions. |
| 2022-03-04 22:18:29 +0100 | o1lo0lol1o[m] | (~o1lo0lol1@2001:470:69fc:105::1:d1c0) |
| 2022-03-04 22:18:39 +0100 | polyphem | (~rod@2a02:810d:840:8754:224e:f6ff:fe5e:bc17) |
| 2022-03-04 22:18:46 +0100 | <ski> | perhaps you mean monadic actions, not monads |
| 2022-03-04 22:19:03 +0100 | vorpuni | (~pvorp@2001:861:3881:c690:6137:750:a86c:52c8) |
| 2022-03-04 22:19:15 +0100 | <ski> | (monads are not values, are not passed around at run-time) |
| 2022-03-04 22:19:36 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl) |
| 2022-03-04 22:20:04 +0100 | <ski> | oh, and a category is not a generalized function. you could argue that *morphisms* in a category are generalized functions. but that's not what you said |
| 2022-03-04 22:20:10 +0100 | pavonia | (~user@user/siracusa) |
| 2022-03-04 22:20:16 +0100 | pretty_dumm_guy | (trottel@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/prettydummguy/x-88029655) |
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| 2022-03-04 22:25:31 +0100 | <xcmw> | Okay |
| 2022-03-04 22:25:58 +0100 | jgeerds | (~jgeerds@55d4548e.access.ecotel.net) |
| 2022-03-04 22:26:47 +0100 | <xcmw> | Thanks |
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| 2022-03-04 22:29:28 +0100 | lavaman | (~lavaman@98.38.249.169) |
| 2022-03-04 22:30:44 +0100 | <xcmw> | So why did no one ever use Adaptive? Are people using some other library to do incremental computation? |
| 2022-03-04 22:31:01 +0100 | emf | (~emf@8.46.76.74) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 22:32:21 +0100 | <geekosaur> | apparently someone used it since there's a metadata revision |
| 2022-03-04 22:32:21 +0100 | <ski> | perhaps people didn't do much adaptive/incremental computation, at the time |
| 2022-03-04 22:33:34 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but there don't seem to be users according to packdeps.haskellers.com/reverse |
| 2022-03-04 22:33:48 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2022-03-04 22:34:41 +0100 | <xcmw> | So if no one uses Adaptive what are they using? Or is no one doing incremental computation? |
| 2022-03-04 22:35:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | as someone mentioned earlier, laziness is itself a form of incremental computation |
| 2022-03-04 22:36:20 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) |
| 2022-03-04 22:36:26 +0100 | <xcmw> | That is incremental (get partial result early), not incremental (change only recomputes what is need) |
| 2022-03-04 22:36:36 +0100 | <xcmw> | Or am I missing something? |
| 2022-03-04 22:36:36 +0100 | zer0bitz | (~zer0bitz@2001:2003:f74d:b800:858f:1c83:7b4e:c545) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 22:37:00 +0100 | vglfr | (~vglfr@coupling.penchant.volia.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 22:37:09 +0100 | stef204 | (~stef204@user/stef204) |
| 2022-03-04 22:37:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | they amount to the same thing. consider also purity:"change" is very limited |
| 2022-03-04 22:37:27 +0100 | eggplantade | (~Eggplanta@2600:1700:bef1:5e10:d4cb:ae21:cf60:e6bc) |
| 2022-03-04 22:37:50 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and in such a way that "get partial result early" can include "get partial result of update early" |
| 2022-03-04 22:38:23 +0100 | <xcmw> | Is there an example of that? |
| 2022-03-04 22:39:07 +0100 | <geekosaur> | this of course depends on thenature of the computation: if it's in IO, it won't in general be lazy, for example, and you might need to usesomething like Adaptive. but Haskell kinda discourages doing things that way: you try to do as many things purely as possible |
| 2022-03-04 22:39:08 +0100 | stef204 | (~stef204@user/stef204) (Client Quit) |
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| 2022-03-04 22:40:38 +0100 | <geekosaur> | not sure what kind of example you'relooking for. first I'd like to know what definition of "change" you're using in the context of Haskell : "change" isn't normally a thing |
| 2022-03-04 22:40:47 +0100 | __xor | _xor |
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| 2022-03-04 22:41:39 +0100 | <xcmw> | By change I mean the changes to an Idris file |
| 2022-03-04 22:42:03 +0100 | cynomys | (~cynomys@user/cynomys) |
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| 2022-03-04 22:42:20 +0100 | infinity0 | (~infinity0@occupy.ecodis.net) |
| 2022-03-04 22:42:45 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that sounds more like incremental compilation than incremental computation? difficult to do that at finer granularity than file level |
| 2022-03-04 22:45:20 +0100 | albet70 | (~xxx@2400:8902::f03c:92ff:fe60:98d8) |
| 2022-03-04 22:45:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | unless I ocmpletely misunderstand what you're asking for |
| 2022-03-04 22:46:33 +0100 | <xcmw> | I think want to do whatever rust analyzer uses salsa for |
| 2022-03-04 22:46:40 +0100 | <xcmw> | What that is I'm not entirely sure |
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| 2022-03-04 23:22:28 +0100 | <texasmynsted> | oh a few days ago I asked about printing Haskell code. Somebody made a suggestion to add to markdown and print that way. |
| 2022-03-04 23:23:02 +0100 | <texasmynsted> | That worked well... Somebody asked to let them know how it all went. This --> https://github.com/ExtremaIS/literatex-haskell |
| 2022-03-04 23:23:57 +0100 | <texasmynsted> | LiterateX was the best solution I found. Better because it solves the _reason_ I wanted to print the code in the first place. |
| 2022-03-04 23:25:13 +0100 | takuan_dozo | (~takuan@178-116-218-225.access.telenet.be) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 23:25:29 +0100 | <iphy> | In ansi-wl-pprint, or any other pretty-printing library, is there a way to "fillSep" with a prefix? e.g. when I'm printing comments, I want to start every line with a "// " |
| 2022-03-04 23:26:36 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@host86-160-236-152.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) |
| 2022-03-04 23:26:38 +0100 | Null_A | (~null_a@c-98-210-133-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
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| 2022-03-04 23:28:26 +0100 | <byorgey> | texasmynsted: nice, that looks like a useful tool |
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| 2022-03-04 23:31:02 +0100 | son0p | (~ff@181.136.122.143) |
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| 2022-03-04 23:32:12 +0100 | zebrag | (~chris@user/zebrag) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
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| 2022-03-04 23:32:41 +0100 | zebrag | (~chris@user/zebrag) |
| 2022-03-04 23:34:52 +0100 | <byorgey> | iphy: interesting question. Looking at the source code for fillSep, which in turn led me to look at (</>), softline, group, and flatten, I wonder if you could do something with flatAlt. Like what if you do something like fillSep . map (\w -> flatAlt ("//" <+> w) w) |
| 2022-03-04 23:35:27 +0100 | <byorgey> | that probably doesn't work but might be worth playing around with. |
| 2022-03-04 23:36:18 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@host86-160-236-152.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 23:36:29 +0100 | burnsidesLlama | (~burnsides@rrcs-76-81-82-250.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 2022-03-04 23:37:37 +0100 | <iphy> | byorgey: flatAlt looks interesting |
| 2022-03-04 23:37:41 +0100 | <iphy> | I'll have a look at that |
| 2022-03-04 23:39:27 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl) |
| 2022-03-04 23:40:28 +0100 | DNH | (~DNH@2a02:8109:b740:2c4:c5b9:4624:182c:3e13) |
| 2022-03-04 23:41:10 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) |
| 2022-03-04 23:45:38 +0100 | zincy_ | (~zincy@host86-160-236-152.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) |
| 2022-03-04 23:46:37 +0100 | cyphase_eviltwin | cyphase |
| 2022-03-04 23:47:06 +0100 | jespada | (~jespada@85.255.234.170) |
| 2022-03-04 23:47:18 +0100 | doyougnu | (~doyougnu@cpe-67-249-83-190.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 2022-03-04 23:50:36 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-04 23:52:14 +0100 | albet70 | (~xxx@2400:8902::f03c:92ff:fe60:98d8) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 23:53:52 +0100 | p3n | (~p3n@217.198.124.246) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2022-03-04 23:54:17 +0100 | p3n | (~p3n@2a00:19a0:3:7c:0:d9c6:7cf6:1) |
| 2022-03-04 23:55:38 +0100 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-03-04 23:56:53 +0100 | niekvandepas | (~niekvande@77-161-122-185.fixed.kpn.net) |
| 2022-03-04 23:58:21 +0100 | albet70 | (~xxx@2400:8902::f03c:92ff:fe60:98d8) |
| 2022-03-04 23:58:40 +0100 | Null_A | (~null_a@2601:645:8700:2290:3c1e:11a0:debc:333e) |
| 2022-03-04 23:59:14 +0100 | albet70 | (~xxx@2400:8902::f03c:92ff:fe60:98d8) (Remote host closed the connection) |