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| 2025-09-20 03:26:42 +0200 | <burp> | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45283074 |
| 2025-09-20 03:26:58 +0200 | <burp> | on front page, "Xmonad seeking help for Wayland port (xmonad.org)" |
| 2025-09-20 03:41:25 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, see https://discourse.haskell.org/t/haskell-wlroots-bindings/8426/123 and https://discourse.haskell.org/t/tiny-wlhs-a-hybrid-haskell-and-c-wayland-compositor/10803/2 (which unfortunately seem to have stalled) |
| 2025-09-20 03:49:19 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> So, I'm still seeking help on getting different info displayed on different xmobars to represent the fact that different monitors have different windows open. |
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| 2025-09-20 10:41:06 +0200 | Enrico63 | (~Enrico63@2a0b:e541:10d0:0:9efc:e8ff:fe24:3213) Enrico63 |
| 2025-09-20 10:46:32 +0200 | <Enrico63> | Normally, I have my laptop lid closed, and connected to an external monitor, so the laptop screen is not-active, and the extrnal monitor is active (using arandr terminolgy). Lately I'm unplugging the laptop more often, at which point I need to activate the laptop screen, and de-activate the external monitor. I'm doing it though Arandr everytime. |
| 2025-09-20 10:46:32 +0200 | <Enrico63> | Is there an in-xmonad solution for this need? |
| 2025-09-20 11:16:00 +0200 | <vrs> | xrandr bound to a hotkey? |
| 2025-09-20 11:16:31 +0200 | <vrs> | arandr can export the current xrandr line via Save As |
| 2025-09-20 11:17:20 +0200 | <vrs> | I have a script bound to one of my fn keys that detects the screens that are connected and restores the layout for that screen set |
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| 2025-09-20 11:31:36 +0200 | Enrico63 | (~Enrico63@2a0b:e541:10d0:0:9efc:e8ff:fe24:3213) Enrico63 |
| 2025-09-20 11:35:49 +0200 | <Enrico63> | vrs, but I suppose the script hardcodes an xrandr command? |
| 2025-09-20 11:36:21 +0200 | <Enrico63> | Do you have it shared somewhere? |
| 2025-09-20 11:41:35 +0200 | <vrs> | https://pastebin.com/eB4zUAse |
| 2025-09-20 11:41:45 +0200 | <vrs> | the various .sh files are just xrandr lines |
| 2025-09-20 11:44:10 +0200 | <liskin> | Enrico63: there's X.H.Rescreen |
| 2025-09-20 11:44:39 +0200 | <liskin> | Lets you run some sort of autorandr or whatever when you (un)plug |
| 2025-09-20 11:45:47 +0200 | <liskin> | Works a bit shit if your hardware (or its support in X11) is shit though, as is the case with my monitor :-) |
| 2025-09-20 11:58:51 +0200 | <Enrico63> | Thanks, I've gone for the script bound to a hotkey, it turns out I had a script I had forgotten |
| 2025-09-20 12:06:22 +0200 | <Enrico63> | Layout related question. I've been using ThreeColMid for a week or so, and now I'm trying ThreeCol. But for some reason I'd prefer to have the main column as the right-most column. Is there a solution? |
| 2025-09-20 12:10:22 +0200 | <Enrico63> | The reason is that most windows are textual (browser, terminal, ...), and text starts at the left (yes, for LTR scripts), so having the main column to the left means that the main column text begins as far as possible from the left end of the monitor. ThreeColMid reduces this problem a bit. But ultimately, I think I'd prefer an hypothetical |
| 2025-09-20 12:10:22 +0200 | <Enrico63> | ThreeColRight |
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| 2025-09-20 16:19:12 +0200 | <aplainzetakind> | Does anybody use XMonad with one of the DEs with which Linux Mint ships, using only a simple session config? Can anyone point me to a recipe perhaps? |
| 2025-09-20 16:38:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if they still have a MATE spin (I haven't run Mint in a while) see https://wiki.haskell.org/index.php?title=Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_MATE |
| 2025-09-20 16:38:50 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (which I maintain, but currently it's only tested on Ubuntu) |
| 2025-09-20 16:40:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | there's a list at https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad but many of them are unmaintained |
| 2025-09-20 16:54:42 +0200 | <Enrico63> | Hi, regarding the help text to which mod+? is bound (or was it mod+shift+? ? doesn't matter). That's just a String message, so it is obviously only showing the default bindings, and one would even have to change that message if any default binding were to change. My question is: is there a way to make an "actual rather than default" binding help |
| 2025-09-20 16:54:42 +0200 | <Enrico63> | message? I would assume the answer is not because functions don't have a Show instance. Would that mean that a solution would have to involve TH? |
| 2025-09-20 16:55:50 +0200 | <Enrico63> | Because, yeah, maybe beginners have to look up the bindings of common commands, but I personally sometimes forgot some more rare bidning I've set up, so a help message would be faster than opening my config xmonad.hs file. |
| 2025-09-20 17:00:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.18.1/docs/XMonad-Util-NamedActions.html but it's somewhat involved |
| 2025-09-20 17:08:33 +0200 | <Enrico63> | But how is that used, if not for the help message? |
| 2025-09-20 17:08:45 +0200 | <Enrico63> | ~how~ what for |
| 2025-09-20 17:21:28 +0200 | <geekosaur> | showKm and showKmSimple extract the descriptions into a printable list. you need to pass it the result of myKeys in the binding and decide how you want to present the resulting list of Strings |
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| 2025-09-20 20:15:21 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> What's the difference between view and greedyView, and how do they interact with multiple monitors? |
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| 2025-09-20 20:48:57 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Solid: Are your config files for XMonad public? |
| 2025-09-20 20:51:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | multiple monitors is when they differ |
| 2025-09-20 20:51:29 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Yeah... I see that now. |
| 2025-09-20 20:51:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if a workspace is visible on a mother monitro and you switch to it, greedyView swaps the workspaces and view focuses the workspace on the other monitor |
| 2025-09-20 20:52:28 +0200 | <geekosaur> | with view, you therefore need a way to see which monitor has focus, which won't be obvious if any of the visible workspaces have no windows in them |
| 2025-09-20 20:52:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that's covered for you since you're using xmobar |
| 2025-09-20 20:53:37 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I see... Interesting. |
| 2025-09-20 20:54:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (with greedyView the focus never leaves the primary monitor) |
| 2025-09-20 20:54:34 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I wish there was a version of viewScreen from X.A.PhysicalScreens that used greedyView. |
| 2025-09-20 20:54:42 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Why is there no greedyViewScreen? |
| 2025-09-20 20:55:07 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> geekosaur: How does using xmobar change things? |
| 2025-09-20 20:56:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | because it'll show which workspace has focus, at least by default |
| 2025-09-20 20:56:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and therefore which screen |
| 2025-09-20 20:56:46 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Really? How does it do that? |
| 2025-09-20 20:56:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | without that or some other mechanism, you may need to guess sometimes as to which workspace/screen has focus |
| 2025-09-20 20:57:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the focused workspace is in square brach\kets, other visible workspaces are in angle brackets |
| 2025-09-20 20:57:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | did you not read the odcumentation? |
| 2025-09-20 20:57:39 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Oh, I see... That makes sense. |
| 2025-09-20 20:57:49 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> It's using ppCurrent and ppVisible. |
| 2025-09-20 20:59:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I have the PP configured differently, with one entry per monitor and the focused one bold (plus any hidden workspaces with urgent windows following in red) |
| 2025-09-20 20:59:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you can do this with xmobar but you'll have to change the markup; since I use xmonad-log-applet I use pango markup |
| 2025-09-20 21:00:14 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Is your config public? Can I look at how you're doing this? |
| 2025-09-20 21:00:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I showed it to you the other day, I think, at least it's still highlighted https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/hilfy-2023/xmonad.hs#L426-L444 |
| 2025-09-20 21:01:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I also sent an image link showing what it looks like |
| 2025-09-20 21:02:15 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Is this info the same on all monitors? |
| 2025-09-20 21:02:27 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Do you have your bar showing the same thing per monitor? |
| 2025-09-20 21:02:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | xmonad-log-applet doesn't support multiple instances, and the configuration I use doesn't make any sense for per-monitor |
| 2025-09-20 21:03:00 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Ah. I see. That sounds good. |
| 2025-09-20 21:03:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://0x0.st/KTsa.png |
| 2025-09-20 21:04:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if it's still valid; they expire stuff pretty quickly by default |
| 2025-09-20 21:04:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yep, still there |
| 2025-09-20 21:04:45 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Well, I'm getting an SSL protocol error. |
| 2025-09-20 21:04:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I do have a second panel on my left monitor but it doesn't have an xmonad-log-applet |
| 2025-09-20 21:04:58 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I've tried opening it in both firefox and chromium |
| 2025-09-20 21:05:16 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Ah, that makes sense. |
| 2025-09-20 21:05:16 +0200 | <geekosaur> | odd, it works here |
| 2025-09-20 21:05:57 +0200 | <geekosaur> | \are you missing certificates for letsencrypt? |
| 2025-09-20 21:06:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | although both those browsers should have them unless possibly if running on windows or macos, in which case you'd have to add them to the system certificate store |
| 2025-09-20 21:06:52 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I'm on Linux. NixOS to be specific |
| 2025-09-20 21:07:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I'd raise that one with NixOS then |
| 2025-09-20 21:07:52 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Yeah... I just tried opening it on my iPhone with Safari, and it works just fine. |
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| 2025-09-20 21:08:13 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I thought Firefox preferred to use its own cert store and included letsencrypt, and chromium uses the systems, and nixos I would expect to have letsencrypt |
| 2025-09-20 21:08:40 +0200 | assface | (~assface@dslb-002-201-020-218.002.201.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 2025-09-20 21:08:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yeh, it's a letsencrypt cert |
| 2025-09-20 21:09:56 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> wish there was a version of viewScreen from X.A.PhysicalScreens that used greedyView. |
| 2025-09-20 21:10:00 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Why is there no greedyViewScreen? |
| 2025-09-20 21:10:07 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.18.1/docs/XMonad-Actions-PhysicalScreens.html… |
| 2025-09-20 21:10:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | oh, I never got around to answering your PhysicalScreenss question. I think the author assumed that anyone using that module would want to focus screens and that's why they would want PhysicalScreens in the first place |
| 2025-09-20 21:10:26 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I see... |
| 2025-09-20 21:10:30 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Makes sense. |
| 2025-09-20 21:11:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | looks like you could write your own, though, as everything it does is exported |
| 2025-09-20 21:11:36 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur (@geekosaur:matrix.org)> -- | Switch to a given physical screen |
| 2025-09-20 21:11:36 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | ... long message truncated: https://kf8nh.com/_heisenbridge/media/kf8nh.com/ocVkBFyEvunULSCJkvaUlSQd/obXcZ0c2tbM (6 lines) |
| 2025-09-20 21:12:48 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur (@geekosaur:matrix.org)> "getScreen" is exported, the rest comes from xmonad |
| 2025-09-20 21:12:58 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Yeah, I just change W.view to W.greedyView |
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| 2025-09-20 21:25:58 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Is it possible to use XMonad.Hooks.Rescreen to make it so that when a screen with ID 1 is plugged in, it automatically starts showing workspace 4? |
| 2025-09-20 21:26:07 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Or some other module? |
| 2025-09-20 21:29:26 +0200 | ml| | (~ml|@user/ml/x-5298235) ml| |
| 2025-09-20 21:33:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <geekosaur (@geekosaur:matrix.org)> not easily |
| 2025-09-20 21:34:28 +0200 | <geekosaur> | xmonad only does switches on the current screen, so you would have to switch to that screen, switch workspaces, and switch back to the original screen |
| 2025-09-20 21:35:06 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I see. That's totally fine. |
| 2025-09-20 21:36:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it should be possible to modify the StackSet directly and call refresh, but there's nothing to do it right now and you would have to deal with the possibility of it being visible elsewhere yourself |
| 2025-09-20 21:36:47 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Yeah... the more I think about it, the less I actually want this. |
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| 2025-09-20 21:42:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | maybe what you really want is IndependentScreens? but it's pretty invasive |
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| 2025-09-20 22:09:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Actually, it turns out that I don't want greedyViewScreen after all Using it for a few minutes is screwing with me. |
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