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2025-09-20 03:26:42 +0200 <burp> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45283074
2025-09-20 03:26:58 +0200 <burp> on front page, "Xmonad seeking help for Wayland port (xmonad.org)"
2025-09-20 03:41:25 +0200 <geekosaur> yes, see https://discourse.haskell.org/t/haskell-wlroots-bindings/8426/123 and https://discourse.haskell.org/t/tiny-wlhs-a-hybrid-haskell-and-c-wayland-compositor/10803/2 (which unfortunately seem to have stalled)
2025-09-20 03:49:19 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> So, I'm still seeking help on getting different info displayed on different xmobars to represent the fact that different monitors have different windows open.
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2025-09-20 10:41:06 +0200Enrico63(~Enrico63@2a0b:e541:10d0:0:9efc:e8ff:fe24:3213) Enrico63
2025-09-20 10:46:32 +0200 <Enrico63> Normally,  I have my laptop lid closed, and connected to an external monitor, so the laptop screen is not-active, and the extrnal monitor is active (using arandr terminolgy). Lately I'm unplugging the laptop more often, at which point I need to activate the laptop screen, and de-activate the external monitor. I'm doing it though Arandr everytime.
2025-09-20 10:46:32 +0200 <Enrico63> Is there an in-xmonad solution for this need?
2025-09-20 11:16:00 +0200 <vrs> xrandr bound to a hotkey?
2025-09-20 11:16:31 +0200 <vrs> arandr can export the current xrandr line via Save As
2025-09-20 11:17:20 +0200 <vrs> I have a script bound to one of my fn keys that detects the screens that are connected and restores the layout for that screen set
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2025-09-20 11:31:36 +0200Enrico63(~Enrico63@2a0b:e541:10d0:0:9efc:e8ff:fe24:3213) Enrico63
2025-09-20 11:35:49 +0200 <Enrico63> vrs, but I suppose the script hardcodes an xrandr command?
2025-09-20 11:36:21 +0200 <Enrico63> Do you have it shared somewhere?
2025-09-20 11:41:35 +0200 <vrs> https://pastebin.com/eB4zUAse
2025-09-20 11:41:45 +0200 <vrs> the various .sh files are just xrandr lines
2025-09-20 11:44:10 +0200 <liskin> Enrico63: there's X.H.Rescreen
2025-09-20 11:44:39 +0200 <liskin> Lets you run some sort of autorandr or whatever when you (un)plug
2025-09-20 11:45:47 +0200 <liskin> Works a bit shit if your hardware (or its support in X11) is shit though, as is the case with my monitor :-)
2025-09-20 11:58:51 +0200 <Enrico63> Thanks, I've gone for the script bound to a hotkey, it turns out I had a script I had forgotten
2025-09-20 12:06:22 +0200 <Enrico63> Layout related question. I've been using ThreeColMid for a week or so, and now I'm trying ThreeCol. But for some reason I'd prefer to have the main column as the right-most column. Is there a solution?
2025-09-20 12:10:22 +0200 <Enrico63> The reason is that most windows are textual (browser, terminal, ...), and text starts at the left (yes, for LTR scripts), so having the main column to the left means that  the main column text begins as far as possible from the left end of the monitor. ThreeColMid reduces this problem a bit. But ultimately, I think I'd prefer an hypothetical
2025-09-20 12:10:22 +0200 <Enrico63> ThreeColRight
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2025-09-20 16:12:22 +0200aplainzetakind(~aplainzet@37.155.33.61) aplainzetakind
2025-09-20 16:19:12 +0200 <aplainzetakind> Does anybody use XMonad with one of the DEs with which Linux Mint ships, using only a simple session config? Can anyone point me to a recipe perhaps?
2025-09-20 16:38:30 +0200 <geekosaur> if they still have a MATE spin (I haven't run Mint in a while) see https://wiki.haskell.org/index.php?title=Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_MATE
2025-09-20 16:38:50 +0200 <geekosaur> (which I maintain, but currently it's only tested on Ubuntu)
2025-09-20 16:40:17 +0200 <geekosaur> there's a list at https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad but many of them are unmaintained
2025-09-20 16:54:42 +0200 <Enrico63> Hi, regarding the help text to which mod+? is bound (or was it mod+shift+? ? doesn't matter). That's just a String message, so it is obviously only showing the default bindings, and one would even have to change that message if any default binding were to change. My question is: is there a way to make an "actual rather than default" binding help
2025-09-20 16:54:42 +0200 <Enrico63> message? I would assume the answer is not because functions don't have a Show instance. Would that mean that a solution would have to involve TH?
2025-09-20 16:55:50 +0200 <Enrico63> Because, yeah, maybe beginners have to look up the bindings of common commands, but I personally sometimes forgot some more rare bidning I've set up, so a help message would be faster than opening my config xmonad.hs file.
2025-09-20 17:00:48 +0200 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.18.1/docs/XMonad-Util-NamedActions.html but it's somewhat involved
2025-09-20 17:08:33 +0200 <Enrico63> But how is that used, if not for the help message?
2025-09-20 17:08:45 +0200 <Enrico63> ~how~ what for
2025-09-20 17:21:28 +0200 <geekosaur> showKm and showKmSimple extract the descriptions into a printable list. you need to pass it the result of myKeys in the binding and decide how you want to present the resulting list of Strings
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