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| 2025-04-29 19:36:15 +0200 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2a6e6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ft |
| 2025-04-29 19:33:19 +0200 | haskellbridge | (~hackager@syn-024-093-192-219.res.spectrum.com) hackager |
| 2025-04-29 19:32:01 +0200 | haskellbridge | (~hackager@syn-024-093-192-219.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-04-29 17:19:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the reasons have differed over the years. originally it was an issue with the "cashew" that we had to patch around, then it was issues with how they manage their panels that they need to be patched around since they don't care about compatibility with other wms |
| 2025-04-29 16:14:42 +0200 | Leary | (~Leary@user/Leary/x-0910699) Leary |
| 2025-04-29 16:13:12 +0200 | Leary | (~Leary@user/Leary/x-0910699) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
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| 2025-04-29 14:30:47 +0200 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@46.147.118.125) (Quit: WeeChat 4.6.0) |
| 2025-04-29 13:09:59 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | Digit |
| 2025-04-29 12:58:15 +0200 | Digit | (~user@user/digit) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-04-29 12:57:45 +0200 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@46.147.118.125) ChubaDuba |
| 2025-04-29 12:56:45 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | (~user@user/digit) Digit |
| 2025-04-29 12:18:50 +0200 | MrElendig | (~Urist@archlinux/op/MrElendig) MrElendig |
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| 2025-04-29 10:21:50 +0200 | ft | (~ft@p4fc2a6e6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: leaving) |
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| 2025-04-29 07:57:37 +0200 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@46.147.118.125) ChubaDuba |
| 2025-04-29 07:23:22 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@syn-071-083-160-242.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-04-29 06:53:19 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | Digit |
| 2025-04-29 06:27:25 +0200 | OftenFaded | (~OftenFade@user/tisktisk) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-04-29 06:18:40 +0200 | Digit | (~user@user/digit) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-04-29 06:17:33 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | (~user@user/digit) Digit |
| 2025-04-29 06:04:39 +0200 | OftenFaded | (~OftenFade@user/tisktisk) OftenFaded |
| 2025-04-29 05:41:15 +0200 | <Digit> | huh. did not know it's been hard to use a different wm with kde4+. shows how long it's been since i did. |
| 2025-04-29 04:45:21 +0200 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:9d11::) terrorjack |
| 2025-04-29 04:42:48 +0200 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:9d11::) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2025-04-29 04:21:59 +0200 | td_ | (~td@i53870912.versanet.de) |
| 2025-04-29 04:20:14 +0200 | td_ | (~td@i53870908.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-04-29 03:48:49 +0200 | OftenFaded | (~OftenFade@user/tisktisk) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-04-29 03:38:01 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | I guess an intuitive convention is all that's needed ultimately--I didn't even consider that |
| 2025-04-29 03:35:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | for years I just used a convention (actually I still use it to some extent: terminals on 1, editor on 2, mail on 3…) |
| 2025-04-29 03:34:39 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | last stupid question(for today): How do you good folks navigate/monitor your workspaces without a bar? |
| 2025-04-29 03:20:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | occasionally they are, but usually that means the main app and plugins |
| 2025-04-29 03:09:52 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | This makes sense. I thought apps were to be moreso considered as collections of packages I guess |
| 2025-04-29 02:59:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | in this context, "package" is generally a distribution thing that is unrelated to how desktop environment components relate to each other |
| 2025-04-29 02:58:11 +0200 | <geekosaur> | in particular, most apps will allow any component to provide the services they need, so they can be run under other desktop managers. this is not usually true of core components (except in lxde) |
| 2025-04-29 02:56:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | apps don't launch the core components automatically (usually) |
| 2025-04-29 02:56:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the core components are also packages |
| 2025-04-29 02:54:55 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | you clarified packages as apps, but I thought the wizards preferred the term packages in this context? |
| 2025-04-29 01:16:25 +0200 | Buliarous | (~gypsydang@46.232.210.139) Buliarous |
| 2025-04-29 01:15:58 +0200 | Buliarous | (~gypsydang@46.232.210.139) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-04-29 00:21:40 +0200 | rascasse | (~rascasse@user/diep) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-04-29 00:06:02 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | Oh I see--I was locked in a 'this/that' perspective for a minute |
| 2025-04-28 23:53:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | someone would need to write an adapter in JS |
| 2025-04-28 23:52:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but gnome breaks even worse there: it's not possible, the wm has to be a plugin to their DE |
| 2025-04-28 23:51:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "packages" (apps) are fine. it's trying to use it as window manager for the DE that breaks |
| 2025-04-28 23:48:37 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | so a stable xmonad would stick to gnome/gtk packages instead? |
| 2025-04-28 23:31:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (I mean using xmonad as wm for kde, which was easy in kde2/3 and got harder in kde4+. currently you need to patch and rebuild part of kde, the patch is in our issue tracker) |
| 2025-04-28 23:29:49 +0200 | rascasse | (~rascasse@user/diep) diep |