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| 2025-04-29 13:09:59 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | Digit |
| 2025-04-29 12:58:15 +0200 | Digit | (~user@user/digit) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-04-29 12:57:45 +0200 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@46.147.118.125) ChubaDuba |
| 2025-04-29 12:56:45 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | (~user@user/digit) Digit |
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| 2025-04-29 06:53:19 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | Digit |
| 2025-04-29 06:27:25 +0200 | OftenFaded | (~OftenFade@user/tisktisk) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-04-29 06:18:40 +0200 | Digit | (~user@user/digit) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-04-29 06:17:33 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | (~user@user/digit) Digit |
| 2025-04-29 06:04:39 +0200 | OftenFaded | (~OftenFade@user/tisktisk) OftenFaded |
| 2025-04-29 05:41:15 +0200 | <Digit> | huh. did not know it's been hard to use a different wm with kde4+. shows how long it's been since i did. |
| 2025-04-29 04:45:21 +0200 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:9d11::) terrorjack |
| 2025-04-29 04:42:48 +0200 | terrorjack | (~terrorjac@2a01:4f8:c17:9d11::) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2025-04-29 04:21:59 +0200 | td_ | (~td@i53870912.versanet.de) |
| 2025-04-29 04:20:14 +0200 | td_ | (~td@i53870908.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-04-29 03:48:49 +0200 | OftenFaded | (~OftenFade@user/tisktisk) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-04-29 03:38:01 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | I guess an intuitive convention is all that's needed ultimately--I didn't even consider that |
| 2025-04-29 03:35:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | for years I just used a convention (actually I still use it to some extent: terminals on 1, editor on 2, mail on 3…) |
| 2025-04-29 03:34:39 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | last stupid question(for today): How do you good folks navigate/monitor your workspaces without a bar? |
| 2025-04-29 03:20:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | occasionally they are, but usually that means the main app and plugins |
| 2025-04-29 03:09:52 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | This makes sense. I thought apps were to be moreso considered as collections of packages I guess |
| 2025-04-29 02:59:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | in this context, "package" is generally a distribution thing that is unrelated to how desktop environment components relate to each other |
| 2025-04-29 02:58:11 +0200 | <geekosaur> | in particular, most apps will allow any component to provide the services they need, so they can be run under other desktop managers. this is not usually true of core components (except in lxde) |
| 2025-04-29 02:56:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | apps don't launch the core components automatically (usually) |
| 2025-04-29 02:56:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the core components are also packages |
| 2025-04-29 02:54:55 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | you clarified packages as apps, but I thought the wizards preferred the term packages in this context? |
| 2025-04-29 01:16:25 +0200 | Buliarous | (~gypsydang@46.232.210.139) Buliarous |
| 2025-04-29 01:15:58 +0200 | Buliarous | (~gypsydang@46.232.210.139) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-04-29 00:21:40 +0200 | rascasse | (~rascasse@user/diep) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-04-29 00:06:02 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | Oh I see--I was locked in a 'this/that' perspective for a minute |
| 2025-04-28 23:53:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | someone would need to write an adapter in JS |
| 2025-04-28 23:52:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but gnome breaks even worse there: it's not possible, the wm has to be a plugin to their DE |
| 2025-04-28 23:51:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "packages" (apps) are fine. it's trying to use it as window manager for the DE that breaks |
| 2025-04-28 23:48:37 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | so a stable xmonad would stick to gnome/gtk packages instead? |
| 2025-04-28 23:31:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (I mean using xmonad as wm for kde, which was easy in kde2/3 and got harder in kde4+. currently you need to patch and rebuild part of kde, the patch is in our issue tracker) |
| 2025-04-28 23:29:49 +0200 | rascasse | (~rascasse@user/diep) diep |
| 2025-04-28 23:26:34 +0200 | <Digit> | xmonad offers so much shiny potential, (and i've explored some, with prior more elaborate configs, even in kde), and yet still manages to be easy to settle down into something simple and practical. |
| 2025-04-28 23:24:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I liked it but I was running on a tiny netbook (600MHz, 2GB!) and it just got too heavy |
| 2025-04-28 23:23:42 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | geekosaur what made you switch away from kde, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 2025-04-28 23:19:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | my basic config has lasted around that long as well, although the github repo doesn't show it. last major change was when I switched away from kde sometime in the late 2000s |
| 2025-04-28 23:16:16 +0200 | <Digit> | i've basically not changed my xmonad config in over a dozen years. updated, re-wrote once for upgrade, but no change. that's fair sign of having unbroken my workflow from rice squirrelling. :) |
| 2025-04-28 23:12:21 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | hoping xmonad dethrones i3 for me in this endeavour |
| 2025-04-28 23:11:36 +0200 | <OftenFaded> | ricing is no longer the focus (don't have the creativity for it). I need to stick with tools that break least often and are most effortlessly repairable when I inevitably do break them. |
| 2025-04-28 23:08:12 +0200 | m5zs7k | (aquares@web10.mydevil.net) m5zs7k |
| 2025-04-28 23:06:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "human fuzzer" |