| 2024-09-06 00:11:58 +0200 | piele | (~piele@tbonesteak.creativeserver.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-09-06 00:13:11 +0200 | piele | (~piele@tbonesteak.creativeserver.net) |
| 2024-09-06 00:21:23 +0200 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) |
| 2024-09-06 01:13:02 +0200 | mml | (~mml@157-131-53-74.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 2024-09-06 01:14:14 +0200 | <mml> | i've been an xmonad user for years. i used debian (bookworm rigth now) and usually hand-craft a .xsession but always have trouble getting some "normal" debian things to work. currently it's sound |
| 2024-09-06 01:15:26 +0200 | <mml> | there's a nice little control panel that comes up with "normal" debian desktop environments, but i don't know how to get it. it controls pipewire. can anybody offer suggestions? |
| 2024-09-06 01:15:52 +0200 | <mml> | to make matters worse on myself, perhaps, i also use old-fashioned xdm. not sure if that will matter. |
| 2024-09-06 01:27:15 +0200 | <mml> | pavucontrol, it turns out |
| 2024-09-06 01:29:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, generally you need to start additional things. desktop managers do this for you |
| 2024-09-06 03:25:45 +0200 | <burp> | you could use xmonad as the window manager in your desktop environment, at least these things used to be possible |
| 2024-09-06 03:26:37 +0200 | <burp> | there's some guides https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad (potentially outdated) |
| 2024-09-06 03:31:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I use xmonad as window manager for MATE, and keep the instructions up to date |
| 2024-09-06 03:32:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you can also run a panel that supports the EWMH panel applet and indicator applet protocols, which will let you use things like sound managers and nm-applet |
| 2024-09-06 03:33:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (xmobar doesn't support either but can be used with trayer. I think polybar supports both) |
| 2024-09-06 04:53:33 +0200 | td_ | (~td@i53870939.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
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| 2024-09-06 05:52:56 +0200 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@46.147.216.147) |
| 2024-09-06 06:07:42 +0200 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@46.147.216.147) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-09-06 06:07:56 +0200 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@46.147.216.147) |
| 2024-09-06 06:15:51 +0200 | <burp> | I use stalonetray, works reasonably well |
| 2024-09-06 06:16:23 +0200 | <burp> | but wouldn't be able to compare it to anything else, I rarely really need it |
| 2024-09-06 06:31:05 +0200 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@46.147.216.147) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2024-09-06 06:55:11 +0200 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@46.147.216.147) |
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| 2024-09-06 09:03:42 +0200 | julie_pilgrim | (~julie_pil@user/julie-pilgrim/x-1240752) |
| 2024-09-06 09:37:44 +0200 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a01:c23:8d79:dc00:11ac:6af0:ae6:f44d) |
| 2024-09-06 09:44:26 +0200 | <liskin> | mml: I just use startx on Debian and stuff mostly works - pipewire is started in the user systemd instance the moment I log in |
| 2024-09-06 09:48:23 +0200 | <liskin> | there's possibly a few bits that are only started via graphical-session-pre.target and graphical-session.target but I don't think there's much (I mean, I do use these now, but for years I didn't and everything was fine) |
| 2024-09-06 09:48:42 +0200 | <liskin> | stuff like dbus and ssh-agent is started by /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 2024-09-06 09:57:17 +0200 | julie_pilgrim | (~julie_pil@user/julie-pilgrim/x-1240752) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2024-09-06 10:15:53 +0200 | ChubaDuba | (~ChubaDuba@46.147.216.147) |
| 2024-09-06 10:23:26 +0200 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a01:c23:8d79:dc00:11ac:6af0:ae6:f44d) (Quit: ash3en) |
| 2024-09-06 10:29:59 +0200 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@146.70.124.222) |
| 2024-09-06 11:29:14 +0200 | <deebo> | geekosaur: do you use e.g. mate-display-properties? or the xrandr plugin for mate-settings-daemon? i'm having a lot of annoying issues with these on fedora, having to delete .config/monitors.xml and toggling the xrandr plugin on/off every related package update |
| 2024-09-06 11:33:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | on my previous laptop the DisplayPort went bad, and mate-settings-daemon/mate-display/properties has been deranged ever since. I use arandr |
| 2024-09-06 11:34:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | removing monitors.xml diesn't help for some reason, mate-display-properties recreates it and goees into an infinite loop on startup |
| 2024-09-06 11:34:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (this laptop doesn't even have a DP output) |
| 2024-09-06 12:05:59 +0200 | <deebo> | yeah i use a dock with 3 monitors and every time i upadte related packages the new versions can't use the old monitors.xml |
| 2024-09-06 12:06:20 +0200 | <deebo> | not sure if fedora specific since i've always used mate + xrandr plugin and never had problems before |
| 2024-09-06 12:08:40 +0200 | <deebo> | lsmod lists nouveau for the second gpu that i never specifically use, could be somehow tied to that |
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