| 2024-09-06 01:25:45 +0000 | <burp> | you could use xmonad as the window manager in your desktop environment, at least these things used to be possible |
| 2024-09-06 01:26:37 +0000 | <burp> | there's some guides https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad (potentially outdated) |
| 2024-09-06 01:31:40 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I use xmonad as window manager for MATE, and keep the instructions up to date |
| 2024-09-06 01:32:46 +0000 | <geekosaur> | you can also run a panel that supports the EWMH panel applet and indicator applet protocols, which will let you use things like sound managers and nm-applet |
| 2024-09-06 01:33:09 +0000 | <geekosaur> | (xmobar doesn't support either but can be used with trayer. I think polybar supports both) |
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| 2024-09-06 04:15:51 +0000 | <burp> | I use stalonetray, works reasonably well |
| 2024-09-06 04:16:23 +0000 | <burp> | but wouldn't be able to compare it to anything else, I rarely really need it |
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| 2024-09-06 07:03:42 +0000 | julie_pilgrim | (~julie_pil@user/julie-pilgrim/x-1240752) |
| 2024-09-06 07:37:44 +0000 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@2a01:c23:8d79:dc00:11ac:6af0:ae6:f44d) |
| 2024-09-06 07:44:26 +0000 | <liskin> | mml: I just use startx on Debian and stuff mostly works - pipewire is started in the user systemd instance the moment I log in |
| 2024-09-06 07:48:23 +0000 | <liskin> | there's possibly a few bits that are only started via graphical-session-pre.target and graphical-session.target but I don't think there's much (I mean, I do use these now, but for years I didn't and everything was fine) |
| 2024-09-06 07:48:42 +0000 | <liskin> | stuff like dbus and ssh-agent is started by /etc/X11/Xsession |
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| 2024-09-06 08:29:59 +0000 | ash3en | (~Thunderbi@146.70.124.222) |
| 2024-09-06 09:29:14 +0000 | <deebo> | geekosaur: do you use e.g. mate-display-properties? or the xrandr plugin for mate-settings-daemon? i'm having a lot of annoying issues with these on fedora, having to delete .config/monitors.xml and toggling the xrandr plugin on/off every related package update |
| 2024-09-06 09:33:12 +0000 | <geekosaur> | on my previous laptop the DisplayPort went bad, and mate-settings-daemon/mate-display/properties has been deranged ever since. I use arandr |
| 2024-09-06 09:34:23 +0000 | <geekosaur> | removing monitors.xml diesn't help for some reason, mate-display-properties recreates it and goees into an infinite loop on startup |
| 2024-09-06 09:34:35 +0000 | <geekosaur> | (this laptop doesn't even have a DP output) |
| 2024-09-06 10:05:59 +0000 | <deebo> | yeah i use a dock with 3 monitors and every time i upadte related packages the new versions can't use the old monitors.xml |
| 2024-09-06 10:06:20 +0000 | <deebo> | not sure if fedora specific since i've always used mate + xrandr plugin and never had problems before |
| 2024-09-06 10:08:40 +0000 | <deebo> | lsmod lists nouveau for the second gpu that i never specifically use, could be somehow tied to that |
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| 2024-09-06 23:09:06 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Mist> @slot-:matrix.org how did you manage to get https://tony-zorman.com/posts/xmonad-on-nixos.html working? I attempted to replicate the same setup but somehow I keep winding up with a very strange error |
| 2024-09-06 23:10:45 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Mist> I added the following code after importing the xmonad-contrib nix module: |
| 2024-09-06 23:10:45 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | ... long message truncated: https://kf8nh.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/kf8nh.com/qugMGkQHaiZbJpykDdAwejew (15 lines) |
| 2024-09-06 23:19:32 +0000 | <haskellbridge> | <Mist> Disabling everything and having only "xmonad.enable = true;" complains about a non-existing option |