| 2023-11-16 00:30:58 +0100 | geekosaur | has no idea |
| 2023-11-16 00:31:30 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I use emacsLikeXPKeymap, which seems to work as it always has. I don't know if the vi-like one was changed recently |
| 2023-11-16 00:32:47 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (and I'm busy setting up my new laptop so am only occasionally around) |
| 2023-11-16 00:38:58 +0100 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) (Quit: getting boxed in) |
| 2023-11-16 01:06:17 +0100 | mekeor | (~user@2001:a61:10c6:e601:550e:a048:6ed7:5ec4) (Quit: hott lisp when) |
| 2023-11-16 01:09:08 +0100 | alp_ | (~alp@static-176-175-7-165.ftth.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 2023-11-16 01:20:26 +0100 | <geekosaur> | my sister still doesn't understand open source 😕 |
| 2023-11-16 01:21:15 +0100 | <L29Ah> | geekosaur: https://bitcheese.net/opensource-faq |
| 2023-11-16 01:21:32 +0100 | <geekosaur> | no, she can't see why anyone would ever work for free |
| 2023-11-16 01:21:42 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's just not a concept for her |
| 2023-11-16 01:22:07 +0100 | <L29Ah> | that's a lie, she speaks with you for free |
| 2023-11-16 01:31:20 +0100 | <geekosaur> | as far as she's concerned that's family duty, but there's no duty involved here |
| 2023-11-16 01:38:08 +0100 | <liskin> | there's loads of other things people do for free |
| 2023-11-16 01:39:21 +0100 | <liskin> | not sure about the US but here in Europe there's loads of hobby groups run by volunteers |
| 2023-11-16 01:39:44 +0100 | <liskin> | everything from knitting through walking/hiking to street skating |
| 2023-11-16 01:39:54 +0100 | <geekosaur> | sure, that exists here too |
| 2023-11-16 01:40:24 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I think she just doesn't connect that this is (effectively) my software that I choose to work on freely and release for free |
| 2023-11-16 01:40:48 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (well, it's Spencer's software but he's gone and left me in charge) |
| 2023-11-16 01:41:44 +0100 | <geekosaur> | She thinks it's natural that I should be charging for it and collecting income from it |
| 2023-11-16 01:42:28 +0100 | <liskin> | well I suppose she does have a point that most people wouldn't choose to work full time on something that doesn't pay the bills unless those bills are already paid for |
| 2023-11-16 01:44:32 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (in any case I'm working more on cabal than xmonad these days tbh) |
| 2023-11-16 01:48:09 +0100 | <liskin> | :-) |
| 2023-11-16 01:52:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (xmonad still comes first but cabal has a lot more activity…) |
| 2023-11-16 01:56:06 +0100 | alp_ | (~alp@static-176-175-7-165.ftth.abo.bbox.fr) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-11-16 02:00:35 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I pointed her to that faq and mentioned that I've been in open source since 1984 (UNaXcess) |
| 2023-11-16 02:01:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | followed by imh which was fairly popular in the northeast US |
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| 2023-11-16 03:32:07 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <beastwick> Hello :), is it possible to set a variable for modMask when using EZConfig keybinds? Like, I don't want to hardcode mod4Mask in each entry. |
| 2023-11-16 03:40:16 +0100 | <geekosaur> | only if you bind it at the top level. you might want `additionalKeysP` though, that can use "M-" regardless of actual modMask |
| 2023-11-16 04:21:42 +0100 | td_ | (~td@i53870930.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2023-11-16 04:23:21 +0100 | td_ | (~td@i53870904.versanet.de) |
| 2023-11-16 08:36:33 +0100 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2023-11-16 09:00:34 +0100 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
| 2023-11-16 09:25:05 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> yes the easiest way is to use `additionalKeysP` |
| 2023-11-16 09:25:15 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> (which also features actually readable syntax! :)) |
| 2023-11-16 09:25:38 +0100 | <Solid> | L29Ah: as in, you noticed a regression? I don't think anyone touched the vim controls in a long time, so if that's the case please tell |
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| 2023-11-16 14:20:16 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
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| 2023-11-16 16:07:48 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) |
| 2023-11-16 16:09:13 +0100 | <L29Ah> | Solid: yes, when switching from 0.17.1 IIRC to git |
| 2023-11-16 17:00:55 +0100 | <xmonadtrack> | New branch created: pull/479 (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/479 |
| 2023-11-16 17:09:30 +0100 | vanvik4 | (~vanvik@78.156.10.140) |
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| 2023-11-16 17:10:10 +0100 | vanvik4 | vanvik |
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| 2023-11-16 19:33:23 +0100 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) () |
| 2023-11-16 19:33:33 +0100 | <thyriaen> | what is this layout modifier again which flips everything |
| 2023-11-16 19:33:53 +0100 | <thyriaen> | such that master and slave windows are swapped ? |
| 2023-11-16 19:43:49 +0100 | <vrs> | Reflect? |
| 2023-11-16 19:48:53 +0100 | <thyriaen> | yep, thanks |
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| 2023-11-16 20:27:14 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <yoggurt> Hey I'm developing this pull request but I'm a bit lost on how to do the process to change xmonad-contrib and xmonad at the same time. |
| 2023-11-16 20:27:14 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <yoggurt> I have the implementation for the new xmonad-contrib but it won't make sense to do so if it's not pointing to my fork. I thought I'd have to release xmonad first |
| 2023-11-16 20:38:52 +0100 | Nixkernal | (~Nixkernal@115.16.194.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) |
| 2023-11-16 20:40:19 +0100 | Nixkernal | (~Nixkernal@115.16.194.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch) |
| 2023-11-16 21:18:05 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> yoggurt: You can open a contrib PR as well, just get ready for tests to fail and link to the xmonad PR that the contrib one depends on |
| 2023-11-16 21:19:29 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> We can then think about whether it's worth bumping `xmonad`s version to have `xmonad-contrib` depend on that (but I think that you can have a contrib PR associate to #479 that's 100% backwards compatible) |
| 2023-11-16 21:19:48 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> So perhaps we should go into that direction first, just deprecating things instead of removing them |
| 2023-11-16 21:20:07 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <yoggurt> alright thanks for the guidance and patience |
| 2023-11-16 21:20:27 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> Thank *you* for the contribution! :) |
| 2023-11-16 21:44:16 +0100 | matijja | (~matijja@193.77.181.201) (Server closed connection) |
| 2023-11-16 21:45:02 +0100 | matijja | (~matijja@193.77.181.201) |
| 2023-11-16 21:52:38 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <yoggurt> Hold on I just have a new question in my head. What do I do about copyright? The XMonad.Util.Ungrab" has a different author than "XMonad.Operations" |
| 2023-11-16 22:35:30 +0100 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2023-11-16 22:37:11 +0100 | <liskin> | Solid: did you get more stickers? |
| 2023-11-16 22:37:24 +0100 | <liskin> | I still have some. Should probably tell people and distribute them |
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