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2022-09-18 11:56:54 +0000 <Solid> why does X.U.Scratchpad even exist
2022-09-18 11:57:07 +0000liskin[m](~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768)
2022-09-18 11:57:07 +0000 <Solid> it's just a useless wrapper around NamedScratchpad that doesn't even improve anything
2022-09-18 11:57:10 +0000 <Solid> argh
2022-09-18 11:57:54 +0000 <geekosaur> it was the first implementation of scratchpads, and originally was standalone
2022-09-18 11:58:12 +0000 <geekosaur> NSP came several versions later
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2022-09-18 12:00:05 +0000 <Solid> and then it was rewritten to use nsp? that sounds odd
2022-09-18 12:00:12 +0000 <geekosaur> that was very recent
2022-09-18 12:00:20 +0000 <geekosaur> 0.17 recent
2022-09-18 12:00:52 +0000 <Solid> git-blame says 2009 :D
2022-09-18 12:00:52 +0000 <geekosaur> the intent was to merge SP, NSP, and DSP into a single implementation
2022-09-18 12:01:12 +0000 <geekosaur> 2009 sounds more like the original impl
2022-09-18 12:01:38 +0000 <Solid> It says ScratchpadRewrite, the original version is from 2008-ish, apparently
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2022-09-18 12:02:12 +0000 <liskin> Solid: btw I actually did some ewmh fullscreen hooks hacking on Friday
2022-09-18 12:02:39 +0000 <Solid> liskin: oh nice :)
2022-09-18 12:02:41 +0000 <geekosaur> yay
2022-09-18 12:02:49 +0000 <liskin> Needs docs still and I didn't sleep since Sat morning so not sure when I'll open the PR
2022-09-18 12:03:02 +0000 <geekosaur> I still haven't gotten around to debugging BSP
2022-09-18 12:03:33 +0000 <geekosaur> have also been having sleep issues (woke up at 5am itching all over for some reason; worse was last Tuesday when I woke at 3)
2022-09-18 12:03:45 +0000 <liskin> (actually did sleep a bit while sitting on a camping chair and a bit in a cafe as well but still sleep is the first thing I'll do when I get home)
2022-09-18 12:04:15 +0000 <liskin> I'm not having sleep issues I just spent the night outside at a puzzle hunt
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2022-09-18 12:37:37 +0000 <Henson> I'm trying to get back into XMonad after having used 0.8 many years ago. A problem I noticed with 0.17 is with a tabbed view, when switching from a fullscreen view to a multi-column view with tabs, there is some kind of crazy window focus loop happening where the focus rapidly switches between all open windows very rapidly and interacting with windows stops working. Sometimes this problem...
2022-09-18 12:38:00 +0000 <Henson> resolves on its own, or more often I have to kill the X session. Does anybody know what might be causing this?
2022-09-18 12:38:15 +0000 <Henson> It used to work fine with 0.8
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2022-09-18 14:11:11 +0000 <username9431> does anyone know a way to set an x property on currently floating windows? trying to have drop shadows with xcompmgr, but that interferes with tiled ones.
2022-09-18 14:12:32 +0000 <geekosaur> take a look at XMonad.Hooks.FadeWindows, which sets a different property than the one you want but you can copy and edit it
2022-09-18 14:13:02 +0000 <geekosaur> and then put it in ~/.config/xmonad/lib or ~/.xmonad/lib depending on where your config is
2022-09-18 14:13:52 +0000 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Hooks/FadeWindows.hs
2022-09-18 14:15:39 +0000 <username9431> ok i'll take a look. not very good at this, will probably ask more questions later :P
2022-09-18 14:16:34 +0000 <geekosaur> Henson: I can't think of anything that would cause that except using `XMonad.Operations.windows` in the `logHook`, but that was just as bad in 0.8 (it causes an infinite loop, since `X.O.windows` runs the `logHook`)
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2022-09-18 14:28:03 +0000 <xmonadtrack> xmonad Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-8-g3d8238b: Expose buildLaunch, sendRestart, and sendReplace (8 days ago, 3 files, 59+ 54-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/3d8238b35d0f
2022-09-18 14:28:04 +0000 <xmonadtrack> xmonad Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.1-9-ga2259bb: Merge pull request #421 from slotThe/expose-internals (46 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/a2259bb30914
2022-09-18 14:28:45 +0000 <Solid> Mh, looks like we'd need to export NSP internals in order to fix SP
2022-09-18 14:28:58 +0000 <Solid> I'd vote against that, tbh, and just deprecate the module
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2022-09-18 14:31:44 +0000 <geekosaur> I was afraid of that. iirc I warned of possible bugs in SP after the recent NSP changes
2022-09-18 14:31:55 +0000 <geekosaur> but it's probably time for it to go
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2022-09-18 15:39:12 +0000 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/757 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/757
2022-09-18 15:39:12 +0000 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/757 * v0.17.1-14-gea16598a: X.U.Scratchpad: Deprecate (3 hours ago, 2 files, 7+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/ea16598a78b2
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2022-09-18 16:14:16 +0000 <username9431> took a while but it's done :)
2022-09-18 16:14:27 +0000 <username9431> was probably a far easier way of doing it that i missed
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2022-09-18 20:20:25 +0000 <Spiker01[m]> Hi all. I don't program in Haskell at the moment but decided to give it a try Xmonad. My system is Arch GNU/Linux. I have tried compiling simple files with ghc and they compile. When I type xmonad --recompile from the terminal emulator, it displays the error in a separate window (Xorg), as a result, I cannot copy the contents of the error. How do I send output to the terminal?
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2022-09-18 20:21:09 +0000 <geekosaur> it's supposed to also send it to the terminal
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2022-09-18 20:23:08 +0000 <geekosaur> you can also check the file `xmonad.errors`, which is either in ~/.xmonad or ~/.local/share/xmonad/xmonad.errors
2022-09-18 20:23:39 +0000 <Spiker01[m]> geekosaur: This is not happening. In the terminal, he writes only that the font is not defined with accuracy (only 2-3 lines), but in the window he gives out a huge log, sometimes more than on the screen.
2022-09-18 20:30:47 +0000jao[m](~jaomatrix@2001:470:69fc:105::2:7f2a) ()
2022-09-18 20:38:34 +0000 <Spiker01[m]> <geekosaur> "you can also check the file `..." <- It works and now it gives me an error, or rather a warning. Do I need to fix it? https://pastebin.com/WrHhTLB9
2022-09-18 20:39:39 +0000MangoIV[m](~mangoivma@2001:470:69fc:105::2:8417)
2022-09-18 20:41:05 +0000 <geekosaur[m]> It's just a warning currently, but you should replace `defaultConfig` with `def`.
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2022-09-18 21:24:16 +0000 <Henson> one problem I have is too many windows. I'd like to have a way of searching through all windows but without a list. I've tried gotoMenu, but it's just a tiny line that's too big to hold 30 windows. I tried GridSelect but the boxes are too small to show the full text of the windows. Does anybody have any suggestions on good techniques for finding windows? I was hoping for something with...
2022-09-18 21:24:49 +0000 <Henson> a search ability, kind of like how VSCode allows you to open files in a project using partial matching, or some ability to search by workspace and window name.
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2022-09-18 21:28:57 +0000 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Prompt-Window.html and enable fuzzy matching in the XPConfig?
2022-09-18 21:37:18 +0000 <Henson> geekosaur: cool, I'll check this out!
2022-09-18 21:37:24 +0000 <geekosaur> mrr, not seeing where the fuzzy matching stuff went now, thought it was a custom searchPredicate
2022-09-18 21:41:17 +0000 <Henson> it does have some kind of search ability, though. That might be good enough
2022-09-18 21:43:47 +0000 <geekosaur> here it is https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Prompt-FuzzyMatch.html
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2022-09-18 21:50:50 +0000 <Henson> geekosaur: awesome, I'll give this a try. It might be what I'm looking for.
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2022-09-18 22:17:42 +0000 <Henson> geekosaur: is looks like the weird focus cycling problem I'm having is due to the avoidStruts layout modifier. If I disable that the problem goes away. But I need that modifier to avoid xmobar and the tabbed layout titles.
2022-09-18 22:18:12 +0000 <geekosaur> can you pastebin your config?
2022-09-18 22:18:14 +0000 <geekosaur> @where paste
2022-09-18 22:18:14 +0000 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
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2022-09-18 22:19:37 +0000 <geekosaur> it shouldn't cause focus changes, all it does is reserve space in the screen rectangle
2022-09-18 22:22:48 +0000 <Henson> geekosaur: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/U6FGQ0yD line 44 is where avoidStruts occurs, and line 111 is where the problematic tabbed environment is defined. When the mirrored tabbed environment is present, switching from full screen layout to mirrored layout causes the problem to manifest
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2022-09-18 22:30:50 +0000 <Henson> geekosaur: I'm running with in KDE with plasmashell disabled, but that's not causing the problem. Even running this in bare X11 with an xterm causes the problem.
2022-09-18 22:32:30 +0000 <Henson> running with -> running this
2022-09-18 22:44:13 +0000 <geekosaur> this doesn't make a lot of sense. it looks fine to me, don't see why it would loop like that
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2022-09-18 22:45:04 +0000 <geekosaur> out of curiosity, does it still loop if you replace `avoidStruts` with `avoidStrutsOn []`? (this won't actually avoid any struts, just activate the strut mechanism)
2022-09-18 22:49:10 +0000 <Henson> geekosaur: yes, it still causes the problem
2022-09-18 22:56:53 +0000 <Henson> geekosaur: and it's something specifically with the tabbed layout. If I replace the tabbed layout with the tiled layout, it works just fine. I'll keep tinkering in this vein to see what I can uncover
2022-09-18 22:57:37 +0000 <geekosaur> please do; I still don't see anything
2022-09-18 22:57:56 +0000 <geekosaur> I'm also looking over the ManageDocks module and not seeing anything there either
2022-09-18 22:58:39 +0000 <geekosaur> *especially* if it's still happening with `avoidStrutsOn []` which should behave identically to not having `avoidStruts` at all (except they can be toggled on)
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