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2022-01-21 14:44:54 +0100 <Guest96> Solid hi, I've copied and trying your xmonad config, is there a reason to use Topics instead of DynamicWorkspaces? Also how do you switch between screens in your config? Default is Mod+{W,E,R} I believe. Thanks, particularly easy motion keybindings are nice when you have too many windows and want to go directly to one
2022-01-21 14:45:06 +0100duskhorn[m](~duskhornm@2001:470:69fc:105::1:37aa)
2022-01-21 14:51:32 +0100 <Solid> Guest96: topics and dynamicworkspaces seem to be orthogonal modules (my topics aren't "dynamic" in the sense that they are all specified in the config)
2022-01-21 14:51:37 +0100cfricke(~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2022-01-21 14:52:21 +0100 <Solid> I don't use DynamicWorkspaces since I don't usually have very long uptimes, so every workspace that I regularly need is probably best defined in the config directly
2022-01-21 14:52:25 +0100incertia(~incertia@207.98.176.56)
2022-01-21 14:53:17 +0100 <Solid> r.e. screen keys I use M-w and M-f for switching to monitors 1 and 2 (this is just M-w and M-e on QWERTY, rebound for my layout)
2022-01-21 14:53:44 +0100 <Guest96> Solid thanks for the response, are workspaces 1-9, 1:WEB different from topic? Or can workspace be topic and workspace 1 at the same time, I am confused
2022-01-21 14:54:11 +0100 <geekosaur> a topic is just a workspace with a behavior attached
2022-01-21 14:54:34 +0100 <Guest96> geekosaur I see thanks
2022-01-21 14:54:41 +0100 <Solid> yes indeed
2022-01-21 14:55:02 +0100 <Solid> in a more ideal world the module may be called WorkspaceActions or something
2022-01-21 14:55:21 +0100 <geekosaur> I treat my workspaces as "topics" without using TopicSpaces, I just start programs on those workspaces in startupHook
2022-01-21 14:55:47 +0100 <Guest96> Solid you have Mod+Enter to spawn terminal and Mod+Shift+Enter to spawn terminal in topic, they both launch terminal, is there a difference
2022-01-21 14:56:36 +0100 <Solid> Guest96: topics can set directories to which they belong, in which case M-S-<Enter> would open a terminal in that directory instead of ~/
2022-01-21 14:58:34 +0100 <Guest96> geekosaur do you think TopicSpaces make sense if you have more than 9 workspaces needed, the main thing reason I wanted to use it I just wanted to bundle some windows for example, everything vpn related (config, server ssh session etc) and leave it there, I think it solves not being able to categorize windows exactly on workspaces, workspaces are
2022-01-21 14:58:34 +0100 <Guest96> more of broad like terminal, code and such. what do you think?
2022-01-21 14:59:02 +0100 <Guest96> Solid understood thank you! One more thing, how do you switch screens?
2022-01-21 14:59:12 +0100 <Guest96> Not the content, but focus
2022-01-21 14:59:25 +0100 <geekosaur> [21 13:53:17] <Solid> r.e. screen keys I use M-w and M-f for switching to monitors 1 and 2 (this is just M-w and M-e on QWERTY, rebound for my layout)
2022-01-21 14:59:56 +0100 <Guest96> oh missed that, sorry and thanks!
2022-01-21 15:00:22 +0100 <geekosaur> and TopicSpaces can make sense for >9 workspaces and even with DynamicWorkspaces (I think there might even be a module tying those together?)
2022-01-21 15:00:30 +0100 <geekosaur> it all depends onwhat you want to do
2022-01-21 15:00:52 +0100 <Guest96> Solid do you use DVORAK?
2022-01-21 15:01:00 +0100 <geekosaur> a TopicSpace you aren't using takes up essentially no memory
2022-01-21 15:01:35 +0100 <Guest96> geekosaur I see thanks!
2022-01-21 15:04:44 +0100 <Solid> Guest96: even worse, I use some obscure spin of colemak called colemak-dh
2022-01-21 15:06:22 +0100 <Guest96> Thanks!
2022-01-21 15:07:24 +0100 <Guest96> no border concept is good too in some way I think, borders make things blocky
2022-01-21 15:08:17 +0100 <Guest96> updatedPointer can be indicator of focused window I see
2022-01-21 15:10:07 +0100steve__(~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net)
2022-01-21 15:11:23 +0100 <Solid> there is a readme for the config btw, which explains some decisions (in particular, I hide the pointer after some inactivity and use transparency via compton to tell the focused window apart)
2022-01-21 15:11:59 +0100 <Solid> I've been experimenting with a 1px border + no compton for multiple screens (using X.U.Rescreen) but that's justa local change for now
2022-01-21 15:13:10 +0100 <Guest96> oh didn't know that, no gaps I assume?
2022-01-21 15:15:09 +0100 <Solid> indeed, no gaps
2022-01-21 15:15:45 +0100 <Solid> (I wouldn't really recommend actually using the config, btw, it's quite customised to my liking)
2022-01-21 15:16:20 +0100 <Guest96> Yeah I've been trying it out to see if there's any features I like, I see nothing related to compton/opacity on gitlab config though
2022-01-21 15:17:25 +0100 <Solid> https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/tree/master/xmonad/.config/xmonad should give you a readme if you scroll down a bit
2022-01-21 15:18:27 +0100 <Guest96> thanks man!
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2022-01-21 15:39:25 +0100 <Guest96> it's weird, xmobar's logTitle part flickers
2022-01-21 15:39:46 +0100 <Guest96> when more than one window
2022-01-21 15:46:22 +0100 <geekosaur> probably means it's logging titles for all of them and you need to pick one somehow
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2022-01-21 15:53:47 +0100 <geekosaur> mine looks like this. it has some differences because I log different things and send them to xmonad-log-applet instead of xmobar. https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L221-L239
2022-01-21 15:54:33 +0100Guest96(~Guest96@216.24.253.159)
2022-01-21 15:54:45 +0100 <geekosaur> oh, missed you'd left
2022-01-21 15:55:15 +0100 <geekosaur> [21 14:46:22] <geekosaur> probably means it's logging titles for all of them and you need to pick one somehow
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2022-01-21 15:55:32 +0100 <geekosaur> [21 14:53:47] <geekosaur> mine looks like this. it has some differences because I log different things and send them to xmonad-log-applet instead of xmobar. https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L221-L239
2022-01-21 15:55:32 +0100 <Guest96> geekosaur what do you mean by "all" windows? it's the same config as Solid's
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2022-01-21 15:55:48 +0100 <Guest96> thanks
2022-01-21 15:56:01 +0100 <geekosaur> I got that wrong, ppTitle only does focused window. so now I'm wondering if there's a newline getting inserted
2022-01-21 15:56:32 +0100 <geekosaur> or maybe your machine is just enough slower that you're seeing the redraw; I don't think xmobar optimizes it away if it's the same
2022-01-21 15:56:53 +0100 <geekosaur> although I don't know for certain since I don't use xmobar
2022-01-21 15:58:00 +0100 <Guest96> use polybar? maybe it's i5 2nd gen processor, no external gpu
2022-01-21 16:00:12 +0100 <Guest96> probably something wrong with my config
2022-01-21 16:00:24 +0100 <Guest96> titles get frozen after some time too
2022-01-21 16:04:35 +0100 <geekosaur> that I don't think I can help with
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2022-01-21 18:28:01 +0100 <Solid> liskin: ping for https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web/pull/55 (I really only want someone else to open the new picture in inkscape, save it, and tell me inkscape doesn't want to change anything)
2022-01-21 18:28:20 +0100ChanServ+o Solid
2022-01-21 18:29:00 +0100 xmonad: the tiling window manager with a formally proven core | https://xmonad.org | cheatsheet: https://xmonad.org/images/cheat/xmbindings.png | https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Frequently_asked_questions | https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lcxmonad
2022-01-21 18:29:08 +0100ChanServ-o Solid
2022-01-21 18:29:27 +0100Solidalmost wants to delete the FAQ from the topic and link to the tutorial instead
2022-01-21 18:29:49 +0100 <Solid> but I think it still holds _some_ useful information
2022-01-21 18:35:42 +0100 <geekosaur> very little, I'm afraid
2022-01-21 18:38:38 +0100 <Solid> :/
2022-01-21 18:39:19 +0100 <Solid> going through it and putting the relevant information into a FAQ on the website sounds like the _perfect_ way to spend my sunday ._.
2022-01-21 18:39:41 +0100geekosaurwas going to update the faq… in august
2022-01-21 18:39:57 +0100 <geekosaur> stalled out completely on about the 8th "runhaskell Setup.hs"
2022-01-21 18:40:52 +0100 <Solid> oof
2022-01-21 18:40:56 +0100 <Solid> yeah I'd just throw that one out
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2022-01-21 19:19:15 +0100 <liskin> Solid: so did you have to actually change/move things around?
2022-01-21 19:24:09 +0100 <liskin> Solid: and, um, opening your svg and saving it in my inkscape does result in some numbers being changed to what they were before
2022-01-21 19:25:25 +0100 <liskin> e.g. the Quit xmonad texts, used to be at 234.31291; 242.41291, your commit changed that to 235.66292; 243.76291 and saving it again changes it back to 234.31291; 242.41292 (0.00001 difference to the original)
2022-01-21 19:28:02 +0100 <liskin> Solid: and if you do the Swipe diff of the PNG at https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web/pull/55/files, you'll notice that the line height changes in the "master area", "terminal (default xterm)" and "Swap focused window with master window" boxes
2022-01-21 19:31:49 +0100 <liskin> anyway, when I open the original SVG in my inkscape, everything's fine, and when I open yours, everything's fine too, just needs a save to revert the coordinates
2022-01-21 19:32:20 +0100 <liskin> so I guess I'll just go through both commits one by one, re-save and regen the PNG
2022-01-21 19:33:29 +0100 <liskin> bloody font issues
2022-01-21 19:34:06 +0100 <Solid> yikes
2022-01-21 19:34:14 +0100 <Solid> liskin: yeah I had to enlarge the boxes a little
2022-01-21 19:34:19 +0100 <Solid> because otherwise the text didn't fit
2022-01-21 19:34:28 +0100 <Solid> liskin: what's your inkscape version?
2022-01-21 19:34:37 +0100 <liskin> 1.1.1
2022-01-21 19:34:46 +0100 <Solid> very weird
2022-01-21 19:35:17 +0100 <liskin> what does "fc-match TlwgTypewriter" say on your computer?
2022-01-21 19:35:59 +0100 <Solid> ❯ fc-match TlwgTypewriter
2022-01-21 19:35:59 +0100 <Solid> TlwgTypewriter.ttf: "Tlwg Typewriter" "Regular"
2022-01-21 19:36:00 +0100 <liskin> although that's almost certainly not the problem because the fonts are okay in the PNG
2022-01-21 19:36:13 +0100 <liskin> so I have absolutely no idea what's going on
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2022-01-21 20:22:00 +0100 <liskin> Solid: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web/compare/gh-pages...liskin:cheatsheet
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