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| 2022-01-21 14:41:58 +0100 | Guest96 | (~Guest96@216.24.253.159) | 
| 2022-01-21 14:44:54 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | Solid hi, I've copied and trying your xmonad config, is there a reason to use Topics instead of DynamicWorkspaces? Also how do you switch between screens in your config? Default is Mod+{W,E,R} I believe. Thanks, particularly easy motion keybindings are nice when you have too many windows and want to go directly to one | 
| 2022-01-21 14:45:06 +0100 | duskhorn[m] | (~duskhornm@2001:470:69fc:105::1:37aa) | 
| 2022-01-21 14:51:32 +0100 |  <Solid>  | Guest96: topics and dynamicworkspaces seem to be orthogonal modules (my topics aren't "dynamic" in the sense that they are all specified in the config) | 
| 2022-01-21 14:51:37 +0100 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 
| 2022-01-21 14:52:21 +0100 |  <Solid>  | I don't use DynamicWorkspaces since I don't usually have very long uptimes, so every workspace that I regularly need is probably best defined in the config directly | 
| 2022-01-21 14:52:25 +0100 | incertia | (~incertia@207.98.176.56) | 
| 2022-01-21 14:53:17 +0100 |  <Solid>  | r.e. screen keys I use M-w and M-f for switching to monitors 1 and 2 (this is just M-w and M-e on QWERTY, rebound for my layout) | 
| 2022-01-21 14:53:44 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | Solid thanks for the response, are workspaces 1-9, 1:WEB different from topic? Or can workspace be topic and workspace 1 at the same time, I am confused | 
| 2022-01-21 14:54:11 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | a topic is just a workspace with a behavior attached | 
| 2022-01-21 14:54:34 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | geekosaur I see thanks | 
| 2022-01-21 14:54:41 +0100 |  <Solid>  | yes indeed | 
| 2022-01-21 14:55:02 +0100 |  <Solid>  | in a more ideal world the module may be called WorkspaceActions or something | 
| 2022-01-21 14:55:21 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | I treat my workspaces as "topics" without using TopicSpaces, I just start programs on those workspaces in startupHook | 
| 2022-01-21 14:55:47 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | Solid you have Mod+Enter to spawn terminal and Mod+Shift+Enter to spawn terminal in topic, they both launch terminal, is there a difference | 
| 2022-01-21 14:56:36 +0100 |  <Solid>  | Guest96: topics can set directories to which they belong, in which case M-S-<Enter> would open a terminal in that directory instead of ~/ | 
| 2022-01-21 14:58:34 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | geekosaur do you think TopicSpaces make sense if you have more than 9 workspaces needed, the main thing reason I wanted to use it I just wanted to bundle some windows for example, everything vpn related (config, server ssh session etc) and leave it there, I think it solves not being able to categorize windows exactly on workspaces, workspaces are | 
| 2022-01-21 14:58:34 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | more of broad like terminal, code and such. what do you think? | 
| 2022-01-21 14:59:02 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | Solid understood thank you! One more thing, how do you switch screens? | 
| 2022-01-21 14:59:12 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | Not the content, but focus | 
| 2022-01-21 14:59:25 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | [21 13:53:17] <Solid> r.e. screen keys I use M-w and M-f for switching to monitors 1 and 2 (this is just M-w and M-e on QWERTY, rebound for my layout) | 
| 2022-01-21 14:59:56 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | oh missed that, sorry and thanks! | 
| 2022-01-21 15:00:22 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | and TopicSpaces can make sense for >9 workspaces and even with DynamicWorkspaces (I think there might even be a module tying those together?) | 
| 2022-01-21 15:00:30 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | it all depends onwhat you want to do | 
| 2022-01-21 15:00:52 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | Solid do you use DVORAK? | 
| 2022-01-21 15:01:00 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | a TopicSpace you aren't using takes up essentially no memory | 
| 2022-01-21 15:01:35 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | geekosaur I see thanks! | 
| 2022-01-21 15:04:44 +0100 |  <Solid>  | Guest96: even worse, I use some obscure spin of colemak called colemak-dh | 
| 2022-01-21 15:06:22 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | Thanks! | 
| 2022-01-21 15:07:24 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | no border concept is good too in some way I think, borders make things blocky | 
| 2022-01-21 15:08:17 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | updatedPointer can be indicator of focused window I see | 
| 2022-01-21 15:10:07 +0100 | steve__ | (~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net) | 
| 2022-01-21 15:11:23 +0100 |  <Solid>  | there is a readme for the config btw, which explains some decisions (in particular, I hide the pointer after some inactivity and use transparency via compton to tell the focused window apart) | 
| 2022-01-21 15:11:59 +0100 |  <Solid>  | I've been experimenting with a 1px border + no compton for multiple screens (using X.U.Rescreen) but that's justa local change for now | 
| 2022-01-21 15:13:10 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | oh didn't know that, no gaps I assume? | 
| 2022-01-21 15:15:09 +0100 |  <Solid>  | indeed, no gaps | 
| 2022-01-21 15:15:45 +0100 |  <Solid>  | (I wouldn't really recommend actually using the config, btw, it's quite customised to my liking) | 
| 2022-01-21 15:16:20 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | Yeah I've been trying it out to see if there's any features I like, I see nothing related to compton/opacity on gitlab config though | 
| 2022-01-21 15:17:25 +0100 |  <Solid>  | https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/tree/master/xmonad/.config/xmonad should give you a readme if you scroll down a bit | 
| 2022-01-21 15:18:27 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | thanks man! | 
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| 2022-01-21 15:32:48 +0100 | allbery_b | geekosaur | 
| 2022-01-21 15:39:25 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | it's weird, xmobar's logTitle part flickers | 
| 2022-01-21 15:39:46 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | when more than one window | 
| 2022-01-21 15:46:22 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | probably means it's logging titles for all of them and you need to pick one somehow | 
| 2022-01-21 15:46:49 +0100 | Guest96 | (~Guest96@216.24.253.159) (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) | 
| 2022-01-21 15:53:47 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | mine looks like this. it has some differences because I log different things and send them to xmonad-log-applet instead of xmobar. https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L221-L239 | 
| 2022-01-21 15:54:33 +0100 | Guest96 | (~Guest96@216.24.253.159) | 
| 2022-01-21 15:54:45 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | oh, missed you'd left | 
| 2022-01-21 15:55:15 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | [21 14:46:22] <geekosaur> probably means it's logging titles for all of them and you need to pick one somehow | 
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| 2022-01-21 15:55:32 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | [21 14:53:47] <geekosaur> mine looks like this. it has some differences because I log different things and send them to xmonad-log-applet instead of xmobar. https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L221-L239 | 
| 2022-01-21 15:55:32 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | geekosaur what do you mean by "all" windows? it's the same config as Solid's | 
| 2022-01-21 15:55:41 +0100 | red-snail | (~snail@static.151.210.203.116.clients.your-server.de) | 
| 2022-01-21 15:55:48 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | thanks | 
| 2022-01-21 15:56:01 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | I got that wrong, ppTitle only does focused window. so now I'm wondering if there's a newline getting inserted | 
| 2022-01-21 15:56:32 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | or maybe your machine is just enough slower that you're seeing the redraw; I don't think xmobar optimizes it away if it's the same | 
| 2022-01-21 15:56:53 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | although I don't know for certain since I don't use xmobar | 
| 2022-01-21 15:58:00 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | use polybar? maybe it's i5 2nd gen processor, no external gpu | 
| 2022-01-21 16:00:12 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | probably something wrong with my config | 
| 2022-01-21 16:00:24 +0100 |  <Guest96>  | titles get frozen after some time too | 
| 2022-01-21 16:04:35 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | that I don't think I can help with | 
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| 2022-01-21 18:28:01 +0100 |  <Solid>  | liskin: ping for https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web/pull/55 (I really only want someone else to open the new picture in inkscape, save it, and tell me inkscape doesn't want to change anything) | 
| 2022-01-21 18:28:20 +0100 | ChanServ | +o Solid | 
| 2022-01-21 18:29:00 +0100 |   | xmonad: the tiling window manager with a formally proven core | https://xmonad.org | cheatsheet: https://xmonad.org/images/cheat/xmbindings.png | https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Frequently_asked_questions | https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lcxmonad | 
| 2022-01-21 18:29:08 +0100 | ChanServ | -o Solid | 
| 2022-01-21 18:29:27 +0100 | Solid | almost wants to delete the FAQ from the topic and link to the tutorial instead | 
| 2022-01-21 18:29:49 +0100 |  <Solid>  | but I think it still holds _some_ useful information | 
| 2022-01-21 18:35:42 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | very little, I'm afraid | 
| 2022-01-21 18:38:38 +0100 |  <Solid>  | :/ | 
| 2022-01-21 18:39:19 +0100 |  <Solid>  | going through it and putting the relevant information into a FAQ on the website sounds like the _perfect_ way to spend my sunday ._. | 
| 2022-01-21 18:39:41 +0100 | geekosaur | was going to update the faq… in august | 
| 2022-01-21 18:39:57 +0100 |  <geekosaur>  | stalled out completely on about the 8th "runhaskell Setup.hs" | 
| 2022-01-21 18:40:52 +0100 |  <Solid>  | oof | 
| 2022-01-21 18:40:56 +0100 |  <Solid>  | yeah I'd just throw that one out | 
| 2022-01-21 19:14:27 +0100 | incertia | (~incertia@207.98.242.204) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 
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| 2022-01-21 19:15:21 +0100 | incertia | (~incertia@207.98.168.249) | 
| 2022-01-21 19:19:15 +0100 |  <liskin>  | Solid: so did you have to actually change/move things around? | 
| 2022-01-21 19:24:09 +0100 |  <liskin>  | Solid: and, um, opening your svg and saving it in my inkscape does result in some numbers being changed to what they were before | 
| 2022-01-21 19:25:25 +0100 |  <liskin>  | e.g. the Quit xmonad texts, used to be at 234.31291; 242.41291, your commit changed that to 235.66292; 243.76291 and saving it again changes it back to 234.31291; 242.41292 (0.00001 difference to the original) | 
| 2022-01-21 19:28:02 +0100 |  <liskin>  | Solid: and if you do the Swipe diff of the PNG at https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web/pull/55/files, you'll notice that the line height changes in the "master area", "terminal (default xterm)" and "Swap focused window with master window" boxes | 
| 2022-01-21 19:31:49 +0100 |  <liskin>  | anyway, when I open the original SVG in my inkscape, everything's fine, and when I open yours, everything's fine too, just needs a save to revert the coordinates | 
| 2022-01-21 19:32:20 +0100 |  <liskin>  | so I guess I'll just go through both commits one by one, re-save and regen the PNG | 
| 2022-01-21 19:33:29 +0100 |  <liskin>  | bloody font issues | 
| 2022-01-21 19:34:06 +0100 |  <Solid>  | yikes | 
| 2022-01-21 19:34:14 +0100 |  <Solid>  | liskin: yeah I had to enlarge the boxes a little | 
| 2022-01-21 19:34:19 +0100 |  <Solid>  | because otherwise the text didn't fit | 
| 2022-01-21 19:34:28 +0100 |  <Solid>  | liskin: what's your inkscape version? | 
| 2022-01-21 19:34:37 +0100 |  <liskin>  | 1.1.1 | 
| 2022-01-21 19:34:46 +0100 |  <Solid>  | very weird | 
| 2022-01-21 19:35:17 +0100 |  <liskin>  | what does "fc-match TlwgTypewriter" say on your computer? | 
| 2022-01-21 19:35:59 +0100 |  <Solid>  | ❯ fc-match TlwgTypewriter | 
| 2022-01-21 19:35:59 +0100 |  <Solid>  | TlwgTypewriter.ttf: "Tlwg Typewriter" "Regular" | 
| 2022-01-21 19:36:00 +0100 |  <liskin>  | although that's almost certainly not the problem because the fonts are okay in the PNG | 
| 2022-01-21 19:36:13 +0100 |  <liskin>  | so I have absolutely no idea what's going on | 
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| 2022-01-21 20:22:00 +0100 |  <liskin>  | Solid: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web/compare/gh-pages...liskin:cheatsheet | 
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