2021-10-22 00:08:27 +0200 | eqw_ | (~eqw@31.134.178.99) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2021-10-22 00:16:21 +0200 | eqw | (~eqw@31.134.178.99) |
2021-10-22 00:17:27 +0200 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) (Quit: :wq) |
2021-10-22 00:20:04 +0200 | <eqw> | Hello. My xmobar is now behind any windows and thus invisible and almost useless. This problem didn't exist until today. Restart of X doesn't help. What else can I do? |
2021-10-22 00:20:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sounds like you lost avoidStruts somewhere in your layoutHook |
2021-10-22 00:21:23 +0200 | mestre | (~mestre@191.177.175.57) |
2021-10-22 00:22:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | since that's what forces windows to resize around the status bar |
2021-10-22 00:22:23 +0200 | <eqw> | but I didn't touch my ~/.xmonad/xmobar.hs since 2017 |
2021-10-22 00:23:28 +0200 | <eqw> | and neither I touched ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs since 2020 |
2021-10-22 00:24:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | conceivably you took an update that changed things, although it'd have had to be really delayed for it to be one of the xmonad changes that affected this |
2021-10-22 00:24:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | might have been an xmobar update, I think they changed the interaction between override_redirect and lowerOnStart? |
2021-10-22 00:25:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sadly liskin's the one who knows xmobar but I think he gave up and went to bed |
2021-10-22 00:30:14 +0200 | <liskin> | I wanted to, but haven't managed to go yet :-) |
2021-10-22 00:30:33 +0200 | <eqw> | so neither xmonad nor xmobar store on disk any info between runs? |
2021-10-22 00:30:55 +0200 | <liskin> | eqw: if you haven't changed config, what did you change? did you upgrade anything? |
2021-10-22 00:31:01 +0200 | <liskin> | or perhaps downgrade? :-) |
2021-10-22 00:31:30 +0200 | <eqw> | liskin: nothing, i believe |
2021-10-22 00:32:04 +0200 | <liskin> | xmonad stores state, but restarting X clears that, so it's as if it didn't |
2021-10-22 00:32:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | xmonad and xmobar only store their configs. there's some information xmonad passes between running instances during mod-q but if that's sticking around it's a bug |
2021-10-22 00:32:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that said you might see if mod-shift-space changes anything |
2021-10-22 00:33:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (this will reset layouts) |
2021-10-22 00:34:15 +0200 | <liskin> | I don't think there were changes in xmobar around override_redirect/lowerOnStart lately, it's been that way for ages |
2021-10-22 00:34:24 +0200 | <eqw> | the screen is blinking when i press mod-shift-space. I mean, I see xmobar for a part of second. |
2021-10-22 00:34:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, it forces a refresh. but this sounds like the layout is broken, then |
2021-10-22 00:35:30 +0200 | <liskin> | and xmonad's handling of this was touched lately, but not in a way that would need config changes, or break it; more the other way around, we made it more tolerant of misconfigurations and fixed bugs |
2021-10-22 00:36:01 +0200 | <liskin> | so the only scenario I can think of that would explain this is eqm upgrading from xmonad 0.11 to xmonad 0.13/0.15 or something :-) |
2021-10-22 00:36:21 +0200 | <liskin> | *eqw I mean |
2021-10-22 00:38:04 +0200 | <liskin> | (and if that's what happened, the solution is to either use "docks" instead of "docksEventHook", or to upgrade to the current git master, which makes "docksEventHook" alone work again) |
2021-10-22 00:38:25 +0200 | <geekosaur> | might be worth seeing your config to see if there are bugs in it (or bugs in xmonad that it uncovers) |
2021-10-22 00:38:27 +0200 | <eqw> | I upgraded my ubuntu from 16.04 to 20.04, but it took place about year ago |
2021-10-22 00:38:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | @where paste |
2021-10-22 00:39:01 +0200 | <liskin> | eqw: an update of ubuntu doesn't force xmonad to recompile, though |
2021-10-22 00:39:12 +0200 | <liskin> | so it's possible you were running an old binary |
2021-10-22 00:39:20 +0200 | <liskin> | and then something forced it to rebuild today |
2021-10-22 00:40:11 +0200 | dschrempf | (~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) |
2021-10-22 00:40:39 +0200 | ArgoLargo[m] | (~argolargo@2001:470:69fc:105::1:16b1) |
2021-10-22 00:40:58 +0200 | <eqw> | when the problem appeared I removed the binaries in ~/.xmonad as the had mtime 2021-10-21 |
2021-10-22 00:41:18 +0200 | <eqw> | https://termbin.com/0ust is my xmonad.hs |
2021-10-22 00:41:22 +0200 | <liskin> | and ubuntu 16.04 was released before xmonad 0.13, so this seems close to the explanation I had in mind |
2021-10-22 00:41:27 +0200 | dschrempf | (~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) (Client Quit) |
2021-10-22 00:41:35 +0200 | <liskin> | 2021-10-21 is today, so that indeed suggests it recompiled today for some reason |
2021-10-22 00:42:18 +0200 | <liskin> | oh, right, you have neither docksEventHook nor docksStartupHook there |
2021-10-22 00:42:43 +0200 | <liskin> | that's indeed a config that should be broken since 0.12-ish |
2021-10-22 00:43:08 +0200 | <liskin> | https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.16.999/XMonad-Hooks-ManageDocks.html |
2021-10-22 00:43:15 +0200 | <liskin> | main = xmonad $ … . docks . … $ def{…} |
2021-10-22 00:43:37 +0200 | <liskin> | in your case just main = xmonad $ docks $ def |
2021-10-22 00:45:21 +0200 | <eqw> | that helped, thank you! |
2021-10-22 00:45:28 +0200 | <liskin> | good |
2021-10-22 00:45:35 +0200 | <liskin> | and good night, this time for real :-) |
2021-10-22 00:49:38 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2021-10-22 00:50:30 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | <liskin> "and then something forced it..." <- I just had a major update for xmonad today, it also looks like my config may be broken, still waiting on updates to finish, but I expect to not have a working machine here soon |
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2021-10-22 05:33:41 +0200 | L29Ah | (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) |
2021-10-22 05:33:54 +0200 | <L29Ah> | i see there's https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.15/docs/XMonad-ManageHook.html#v:-61--63- for exact matching of window properties |
2021-10-22 05:34:30 +0200 | <L29Ah> | how should i match a prefix of a window property? |
2021-10-22 05:52:24 +0200 | <fizzie> | You can look at the definition of =?, namely: q =? x = fmap (== x) q |
2021-10-22 05:52:26 +0200 | <fizzie> | And then do the same thing except with isPrefixOf. |
2021-10-22 05:54:42 +0200 | <fizzie> | IOW, fmap ("foo" `isPrefixOf`) should work for converting a Query String to a Query Bool. |
2021-10-22 05:55:19 +0200 | <L29Ah> | thanks |
2021-10-22 06:00:22 +0200 | <fizzie> | There's also https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Hooks-ManageHelpers.html#v:isI… which isn't exactly "prefix" but "contains" instead. |
2021-10-22 07:00:59 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5cc1:300::4b63) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
2021-10-22 07:20:00 +0200 | <Solid> | people have asked for a prefix thing quite often lately |
2021-10-22 07:20:09 +0200 | <Solid> | I guess we should provide that |
2021-10-22 07:21:02 +0200 | <Solid> | it would even fit nicely into the language is we called it `(^?)` or something (which would also give us `(~?)` for and `isInfixOf` variant |
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2021-10-22 09:04:58 +0200 | <mc47[m]> | Solid I just needed that lately too |
2021-10-22 09:05:31 +0200 | <mc47[m]> | Might be worth it to explain how to create custom predicates (e.g. tell them about fmap) |
2021-10-22 09:27:28 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
2021-10-22 09:28:14 +0200 | <mc47> | geekosaur: my medium concern is about changing WSPP from WSPP' (WorkspaceId -> String) to WSPP' (PP -> WorkspaceId -> String) so fallbackPrinters can be useful |
2021-10-22 09:28:40 +0200 | <mc47> | the small concern is about exposing -?> |
2021-10-22 09:37:58 +0200 | JasonFischmann[m | (~sogensmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1:20a1) |
2021-10-22 09:39:07 +0200 | <JasonFischmann[m> | is there any way of getting xmonad working with gnome 40 like dwm-gnome and awesome-gnome on the arch user repository ? |
2021-10-22 09:39:24 +0200 | <JasonFischmann[m> | theres a way to do it with gnome 3 but it no longer works |
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2021-10-22 10:23:32 +0200 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | <Arcanus[m]> "I just had a major update for..." <- This will help you update your config: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/CHANGES.md |
2021-10-22 10:34:37 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-146-132.toya.net.pl) |
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2021-10-22 11:10:33 +0200 | <liskin> | JasonFischmann[m: no idea but I'd think that if it worked with gnome 38 it should work with 40 and if it doesn't it's a bug in either gnome or xmonad or the glue between them |
2021-10-22 11:10:55 +0200 | <liskin> | so the best course of action is to try to diagnose what's wrong with the thing that worked before |
2021-10-22 11:11:32 +0200 | <liskin> | Arcanus[m]: what major update, what broke in your config? |
2021-10-22 11:12:54 +0200 | <liskin> | mc47: hm, this PP -> thing is worring me. it's like having two nested readers :-/ |
2021-10-22 11:13:08 +0200 | <liskin> | mc47: but it may be good in practice, it just feels wrong :-) |
2021-10-22 11:13:15 +0200 | <mc47> | It does feel wrong |
2021-10-22 11:14:17 +0200 | <mc47> | We could just leave it as is and change post-release if we see fit |
2021-10-22 11:14:33 +0200 | <mc47> | it would be a breaking change though |
2021-10-22 11:19:57 +0200 | <liskin> | I guess I'll need to checkout the code again and play with it |
2021-10-22 11:20:11 +0200 | <liskin> | (which means, not now, hopefully today) |
2021-10-22 11:22:20 +0200 | <liskin> | or if you have time to play with it now, what would it look like if PP was added to WS? |
2021-10-22 11:22:47 +0200 | <liskin> | (I say 9f6f7b183ad47f931344 just now, it looks okay actually, just still feels wrong) |
2021-10-22 11:22:51 +0200 | <liskin> | *saw |
2021-10-22 11:29:16 +0200 | <mc47> | The important thing is not to delay the release because of this ;) I doubt that many people would actually use it, so it would be okay to break later |
2021-10-22 13:07:57 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | <liskin> "Arcanus: what major update, what..." <- ``` (6/8) Recompiling Xmonad now because of Haskell updates ...... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/3ec43c528720cd108cacc63581b1e8c96ffd…) |
2021-10-22 13:09:25 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | this is what happened when I tried to start xmonad after the update. xmonad still runs, and the changes don't seem to actually affect anything major in my actual config, but this happens every time I try to recompile so I guess I have some cleaning up to do |
2021-10-22 13:13:40 +0200 | <Solid> | Arcanus[m]: they don't seem to affect anything because xmonad simply uses the old binary of the compilation fails |
2021-10-22 13:14:44 +0200 | <Solid> | something tells me that you're using Arch, perhaps try running `sudo ghc-pkg recache` to sync ghc's cache |
2021-10-22 13:17:47 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | Solid: hahaha, I forgot to mention, I run arch btw |
2021-10-22 13:21:44 +0200 | <Solid> | dynamically linking Haskell is the worst thing any distro has ever done |
2021-10-22 13:21:59 +0200 | <Solid> | and then it happens to the distro whose users seems to have a larger overlap with xmonad users than normal |
2021-10-22 13:22:02 +0200 | <Solid> | sigh |
2021-10-22 13:22:51 +0200 | <evilop> | can look at it the other way too, not having sane dynamic linking support is the worst thing ghc have done :p |
2021-10-22 13:22:59 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | <Solid> "something tells me that you're..." <- ran the command, then recompiled this is the error I'm getting now: |
2021-10-22 13:22:59 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | ```error detected while loading xmonad configuration file /home/user/.xmonad/xmonad.hs |
2021-10-22 13:22:59 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | collect2: fatal error: Id terminated with signal 7 [Bus error], core dumped compilation terminated. 'cc' failed in phase 'Linker'. Exit code: 1) |
2021-10-22 13:22:59 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | Please check the file for errors.``` |
2021-10-22 13:23:51 +0200 | <Solid> | evilop: dynamic linking is the devil, so agree to disagree there :> |
2021-10-22 13:24:35 +0200 | <Solid> | (but that desire should not be an excuse for Arch to flip the middle finger to all Haskell users...) |
2021-10-22 13:24:41 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | and....now I can't close any windows...I will have to log out |
2021-10-22 13:25:22 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | Solid: which distro works best with xmonad? |
2021-10-22 13:26:28 +0200 | <Solid> | by default; any distro but Arch (and possibly its derivatives :)) But even on Arch you can install stack-static (I think it's called that) and install xmonad via stack |
2021-10-22 13:26:53 +0200 | <Solid> | which is imo the easiest "reliable" setup one can have |
2021-10-22 13:27:26 +0200 | <Solid> | (see https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/INSTALL.md#build-xmonad ) |
2021-10-22 13:27:32 +0200 | <alternateved> | So stack-static would be better option than installing stack with the sh script from stack page? |
2021-10-22 13:27:50 +0200 | <evilop> | sidenote, I've have had more issues with xmonad on ubuntu than on arch |
2021-10-22 13:27:50 +0200 | <alternateved> | Better for Arch-based distributions, I mean. |
2021-10-22 13:28:18 +0200 | <evilop> | when not wanting to use the ancient version packaged for it |
2021-10-22 13:28:46 +0200 | <Solid> | alternateved: I haven't used Arch in some time, so I can't say for sure |
2021-10-22 13:28:58 +0200 | <Solid> | (and no idea what that script does) |
2021-10-22 13:29:25 +0200 | <evilop> | (also ubuntu shipping ghc7 named as ghc6 was just hillarious) |
2021-10-22 13:29:59 +0200 | <Solid> | lol |
2021-10-22 13:30:03 +0200 | <alternateved> | Yeah, me neither. But I advised someone lately to use stack to manage xmonad and it seems that after a while stack disappeared from PATH |
2021-10-22 13:30:15 +0200 | <alternateved> | At least that is how I understand that guy's issue. |
2021-10-22 13:30:58 +0200 | <evilop> | that sounds like the user changing some user config regarding his shell |
2021-10-22 13:31:46 +0200 | <alternateved> | Maybe, I cannot be sure what that user was doing on his computer. |
2021-10-22 13:32:20 +0200 | <alternateved> | I only know that he had poor experience with Arch xmonad-git package and then he had poor experience with the stack |
2021-10-22 13:32:33 +0200 | <alternateved> | This is the script if anyone is curious https://get.haskellstack.org/ |
2021-10-22 13:33:56 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | alternateved: I shall check it out post haste |
2021-10-22 13:33:56 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | does this mean I need to re isntall and re-write my xmonad config? |
2021-10-22 13:35:10 +0200 | <alternateved> | I'll leave that answer to someone more competent. |
2021-10-22 13:35:39 +0200 | <alternateved> | But I have to say, when I was using Arch, stack was the only viable option for me. |
2021-10-22 13:36:27 +0200 | <alternateved> | Using anything from Arch or Arch User Repositories quickly led to some breakage |
2021-10-22 13:37:33 +0200 | <alternateved> | But I also wanted to use xmonad compiled from source (since I saw the TUTORIAL.md page), which does some things better |
2021-10-22 13:37:58 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | that's so weird, I've been using it for a while, well, since I switched to arch and haven't had any problems with it until now |
2021-10-22 13:37:58 +0200 | <Arcanus[m]> | besides being unable to figure out how to properly configure my xmobar |
2021-10-22 14:03:11 +0200 | <Solid> | Arcanus[m]: you don't have to write your config, no |
2021-10-22 14:03:20 +0200 | <Solid> | s/write/rewrite/ |
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2021-10-22 16:37:50 +0200 | <Solid> | liskin: ewmhFullscreen does not work without ewmh, right? |
2021-10-22 16:40:38 +0200 | <alternateved> | It seems it does work. |
2021-10-22 16:40:46 +0200 | qbt | (~qbt@user/edun) |
2021-10-22 16:41:31 +0200 | <liskin> | Solid: it might, but it's not guaranteed; contents of the _NET_SUPPORTED property is undefined without ewmh, and ewmhFullscreen just adds to it |
2021-10-22 16:42:09 +0200 | <liskin> | if someone replaces a fully EWMH-compliant WM with xmonad with ewmhFullscreen without ewmh, hillarity will ensue |
2021-10-22 16:42:38 +0200 | <liskin> | (quite possibly a difficult to detect hillarity) |
2021-10-22 16:43:57 +0200 | <liskin> | after #625, however, using just ewmhFullscreen will be valid (not that I'm going to test that usecase, but I will consider bug reports about it serious) |
2021-10-22 16:51:04 +0200 | <Solid> | liskin: I was mainly thinking about the fact that we know get a deprecation warning in X.L.Fullscreen (and since we show deprecation warnings to users during recompilation this may be undesirable for people who compile contrib alongside their config file) |
2021-10-22 16:51:23 +0200 | ^[ | (~user@user//x-8473491) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
2021-10-22 16:52:43 +0200 | <liskin> | Solid: I see |
2021-10-22 16:53:01 +0200 | <liskin> | I did spend considerable time thinking and writing code to get rid of that particular warning |
2021-10-22 16:53:14 +0200 | <liskin> | and then I threw it all away and decided it's not worth it |
2021-10-22 16:54:14 +0200 | <liskin> | but you do have a good point that people using the StackGhc recompile method will get warned about this, I did not consider that |
2021-10-22 16:54:46 +0200 | <liskin> | so I suggest that we silence deprecations in X.L.Fullscreen until #625 is done |
2021-10-22 17:03:05 +0200 | ^[ | (~user@user//x-8473491) |
2021-10-22 17:04:44 +0200 | <liskin> | actually not, xmonad --recompile invokes stack build --silent |
2021-10-22 17:05:24 +0200 | <liskin> | so this only affects people with custom build scripts, hm |
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2021-10-22 20:15:43 +0200 | Solid | feels like we need to standardise how we write xmonad |
2021-10-22 20:15:51 +0200 | <Solid> | as in, the actual name of the thing |
2021-10-22 20:16:02 +0200 | <Solid> | is it "xmonad" or "XMonad"? :) |
2021-10-22 20:17:10 +0200 | <liskin> | oh, right, it's inconsistent right on the xmonad homepage :-) |
2021-10-22 20:17:59 +0200 | <liskin> | we could interpret "xmonad" as the core repo/package and "XMonad" as the whole |
2021-10-22 20:20:37 +0200 | <Solid> | Yeah it's all over the place everywhere |
2021-10-22 20:20:52 +0200 | <Solid> | I have a feeling it's because Xmonad (say, when the name is at the start of a sentence) looks so bad |
2021-10-22 20:21:08 +0200 | <Solid> | (also the namespace, of course) |
2021-10-22 20:21:37 +0200 | <geekosaur> | there's alkso xmoinad the executable vs. the package or the whole |
2021-10-22 20:21:50 +0200 | <geekosaur> | *also xmonad |
2021-10-22 20:21:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I kan tipe gud |
2021-10-22 20:22:05 +0200 | <Solid> | :D |
2021-10-22 20:22:45 +0200 | <Solid> | using xmonad only for the core repo/package/executable sounds like a good idea, but also like a nightmare to enforce |
2021-10-22 20:30:08 +0200 | humky | (~humky@user/humky) |
2021-10-22 20:38:47 +0200 | <liskin> | well what's the worst that could happen |
2021-10-22 20:39:08 +0200 | <liskin> | someone will need to clean it up again in 5 years time :-) |
2021-10-22 20:40:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I have to imagineother projects have this problem |
2021-10-22 20:40:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it sometimes helps to have a conventions document, but then you have to hope people read it |
2021-10-22 20:45:36 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection) |
2021-10-22 20:49:41 +0200 | <alternateved> | I am not sure if you would achieve anything with that matter. Check how it works with other window managers. |
2021-10-22 20:50:27 +0200 | <alternateved> | Ways how people are naming them are also all over the place |
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2021-10-22 23:34:29 +0200 | <mestre> | e ai |
2021-10-22 23:34:36 +0200 | <mestre> | ops, wrong chan. |
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