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| 2025-06-28 00:08:38 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-28 00:08:48 +0200 | Tuplanolla | (~Tuplanoll@91-159-69-59.elisa-laajakaista.fi) Tuplanolla |
| 2025-06-28 00:09:06 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:ccc9:1631:4a25:f5d1) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2025-06-28 00:10:03 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
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| 2025-06-28 00:50:51 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-28 00:52:10 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
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| 2025-06-28 00:55:42 +0200 | weary-traveler | (~user@user/user363627) user363627 |
| 2025-06-28 00:57:11 +0200 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-06-28 00:57:27 +0200 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:ccc9:1631:4a25:f5d1) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2025-06-28 01:00:39 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) peterbecich |
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| 2025-06-28 01:51:16 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-28 01:53:15 +0200 | r-sta | (~r-sta@host-92-29-17-18.as13285.net) |
| 2025-06-28 01:53:15 +0200 | <r-sta> | am here |
| 2025-06-28 01:54:09 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 01:54:20 +0200 | <r-sta> | anyone up? |
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| 2025-06-28 02:12:54 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
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| 2025-06-28 02:13:55 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
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| 2025-06-28 02:17:17 +0200 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2025-06-28 02:17:24 +0200 | arahael | (~arahael@user/arahael) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 02:23:45 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 02:25:09 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-28 02:27:02 +0200 | <r-sta> | i think i managed to get agi down to 2 principles |
| 2025-06-28 02:27:29 +0200 | <r-sta> | 1, an arbitrary L2 problem is used in place of the recursive "improving at self improving at self improving..." |
| 2025-06-28 02:28:20 +0200 | <r-sta> | 2, the random submasking of an extensible random support (which approximates optimal ML acceleration via extension - like transfer learning from a lower rank system to initialise a higher rank system) |
| 2025-06-28 02:28:27 +0200 | <r-sta> | ... |
| 2025-06-28 02:29:56 +0200 | <r-sta> | 1 allows the expensive recursive self improvement objective to be "approximated" by an "arbitrary" L2 problem, while the random submasking makes this "arbitrary" cost function "general" (as its many different random support adjustments in a batch. all of which it is then having to be good at) |
| 2025-06-28 02:30:02 +0200 | <r-sta> | ... |
| 2025-06-28 02:30:08 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 02:30:09 +0200 | <r-sta> | then there is a bit where gradient descent is added |
| 2025-06-28 02:30:36 +0200 | <r-sta> | this is required since otherwise it just explodes exponentially, and cannot decelarate to hone in on the optima in a fine way |
| 2025-06-28 02:31:32 +0200 | <r-sta> | raising the open question "does a mixture of automorphisms including (parameterless) gradient descent converge" |
| 2025-06-28 02:32:02 +0200 | <r-sta> | and the stronger problem of if it would still be a converging automorphic mixture, if gradient descent was subsequently removed after convergence |
| 2025-06-28 02:32:12 +0200 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) jmcantrell |
| 2025-06-28 02:32:18 +0200 | <r-sta> | over. |
| 2025-06-28 02:32:50 +0200 | Smiles | (uid551636@id-551636.lymington.irccloud.com) Smiles |
| 2025-06-28 02:35:31 +0200 | <r-sta> | https://vocaroo.com/16T63ZiFpXw4 |
| 2025-06-28 02:37:02 +0200 | kadobanana | (~mud@user/kadoban) kadoban |
| 2025-06-28 02:37:26 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-28 02:37:49 +0200 | mud | (~mud@user/kadoban) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 02:40:56 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-28 02:41:07 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
| 2025-06-28 02:41:28 +0200 | r-sta | (~r-sta@host-92-29-17-18.as13285.net) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2025-06-28 02:41:52 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
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| 2025-06-28 02:45:37 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
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| 2025-06-28 02:56:21 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-28 02:58:17 +0200 | FANTOM | (~fantom@33be818f.skybroadband.com) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 02:58:20 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-28 02:59:08 +0200 | jmcantrell | (~weechat@user/jmcantrell) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 03:00:07 +0200 | arahael | (~arahael@user/arahael) arahael |
| 2025-06-28 03:01:09 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 03:01:42 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | (~user@user/digit) Digit |
| 2025-06-28 03:02:00 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
| 2025-06-28 03:02:45 +0200 | Digit | (~user@user/digit) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 03:06:14 +0200 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-06-28 03:06:24 +0200 | arahael | (~arahael@user/arahael) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 03:07:01 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-28 03:10:00 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
| 2025-06-28 03:11:53 +0200 | Digitteknohippie | Digit |
| 2025-06-28 03:12:09 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-28 03:12:19 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-28 03:12:27 +0200 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-28 03:14:47 +0200 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2025-06-28 03:17:29 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 03:18:00 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
| 2025-06-28 03:18:39 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 03:22:14 +0200 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-52-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-28 03:22:28 +0200 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-52-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-06-28 03:27:57 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-28 03:29:25 +0200 | <ncf> | can we ban this nonsense? |
| 2025-06-28 03:32:04 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-28 03:33:02 +0200 | ChanServ | +o geekosaur |
| 2025-06-28 03:33:14 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 03:34:31 +0200 | geekosaur | +b r-sta!r-sta@host-*.as13285.net |
| 2025-06-28 03:34:36 +0200 | geekosaur | -o geekosaur |
| 2025-06-28 03:37:28 +0200 | tzh | (~tzh@c-76-115-131-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2025-06-28 03:37:36 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
| 2025-06-28 03:39:27 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-28 03:41:37 +0200 | peterbecich | (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) peterbecich |
| 2025-06-28 03:43:22 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 03:43:31 +0200 | j1n37 | (~j1n37@user/j1n37) j1n37 |
| 2025-06-28 03:43:45 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-28 03:44:16 +0200 | <ncf> | thanks |
| 2025-06-28 03:47:05 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2025-06-28 03:47:41 +0200 | trickard_ | trickard |
| 2025-06-28 03:50:24 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-06-28 03:50:44 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 03:55:18 +0200 | ttybitnik | (~ttybitnik@user/wolper) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-06-28 03:58:45 +0200 | poscat0x04 | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2025-06-28 04:00:56 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2025-06-28 04:01:47 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-28 04:01:57 +0200 | poscat0x04 | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-06-28 04:02:16 +0200 | poscat0x04 | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2025-06-28 04:03:04 +0200 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
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| 2025-06-28 04:03:23 +0200 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2025-06-28 04:03:38 +0200 | prdak | (~Thunderbi@user/prdak) prdak |
| 2025-06-28 04:03:50 +0200 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-06-28 04:05:26 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 04:07:04 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 04:07:10 +0200 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2025-06-28 04:08:02 +0200 | prdak | (~Thunderbi@user/prdak) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 04:09:52 +0200 | zzz | (~z@user/zero) zero |
| 2025-06-28 04:09:59 +0200 | yin | (~z@user/zero) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 04:09:59 +0200 | zzz | yin |
| 2025-06-28 04:10:22 +0200 | <probie> | Does anyone have strong opinions about FRP libraries (or even just the paradigm itself)? |
| 2025-06-28 04:13:15 +0200 | poscat0x04 | (~poscat@user/poscat) poscat |
| 2025-06-28 04:15:24 +0200 | Frostillicus | (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2025-06-28 04:16:59 +0200 | poscat | (~poscat@user/poscat) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 04:17:34 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-06-28 04:23:00 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2025-06-28 04:23:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "the" paradigm? aren't there like 4? |
| 2025-06-28 04:23:05 +0200 | bitdex | (~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex) bitdex |